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POLL : What did you think of The Originals - Wheel Inside the Wheel?

Nov 11, 2014

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142 comments:

  1. maclivesNovember 11, 2014 at 2:01 AM

    probably the worst episode of the series so far


    - Klaus dad has zero charisma or screenpresence
    - Morgan and Tonkin are incapable of carrying the series
    - the Vincent subplot was pretty dull


    only Dhalias return is interesting

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  2. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 2:02 AM

    Seriously??? Freya Mikaelson??? WTF???? For 5 freaking years!!! It's been AARON FREAKING MIKAELSON!! OLDER SON!! A BOY, A MALE, A SON!! Now they want to change it in one episode??? I hate when they do that shit. It really irks me. I wasn't happy about that piece of history.

    I didn't care much for this episode. I'm just glad Cami now knows that Vincent is Finn. And that Esther knows Mikael is alive. Her face was priceless! Take that bitch!

    Didn't care that Jackson returned, or that Oliver died. (His death looked pretty cool, tbh) and I liked Klaus being really concerned for Elijah. Wished Klaus would've broke Esther's neck! Didn't care for Talia either. The cliffhanger was kinda dull, imo.

    Best part of the episode....Klaus' father returning! Did NOT see that coming. Ohhh and playing Civil Twilight. Letters From The Sky! I loveee that song.

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  3. Morrigan_2575November 11, 2014 at 2:07 AM

    Great episode and an even bigger big bad then Mikeal and Esther!

    Really wish we had more Elijah but I'm guessing he's on break to film saving hope.

    I wonder if we'leet Freya? Of Dalia (was that her name?) Comes back maybe Freya will come with her? Or are we supposed to believe she was killed/sacrificed for a ritual.

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  4. maraNovember 11, 2014 at 2:09 AM

    and I have actually to diagree about Dahlias return? How many times can they do the same plot over and over again? aka witch with vengence Comes back to life? It is beyond repeative

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  5. Morrigan_2575November 11, 2014 at 2:11 AM

    Benefits of not watching TVD, all I knew was the first child died in Norway before they came to America. The youngest died here which is why Esther cast the spell. :D

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  6. Aleana HarrisNovember 11, 2014 at 2:11 AM

    OK episode all I want to know is why are they interest in Cami what is she the first born daughter Dahlias took or something I hope not because even though I don't ship couples I want Klaus and Cami to get together

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  7. maclivesNovember 11, 2014 at 2:13 AM

    it is, isn`t it?
    And turning villains likable....same pattern


    However I like the angle of having another TO sibling coming our way (rooting for them to cast SMG as Freya :D)

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  8. gta4801November 11, 2014 at 2:14 AM

    You may be right about you're first paragraph but my only problem with this episode is that just out of the blue they introduced someone apparently worst then Esther and more or less tried to justify her of trying to kill hope and less evil then she's suppose to be
    Now she has an evil sister

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  9. maraNovember 11, 2014 at 2:18 AM

    Sorry but for me it feels like a huge plothole like how did Dahlia escape the destruction of the Other side? Truely not a fan of this, it feels kinda lazy

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  10. maclivesNovember 11, 2014 at 2:22 AM

    well Dahlia could still be alive, lurking in the shadows

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  11. robinclank2November 11, 2014 at 2:33 AM

    Ok that literally made no sense

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  12. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 2:45 AM

    The 5th year was the first year of The Originals. So if you knew that their eldest dies, then you knew it was a boy, b/c it was addressed last season as well. And Henrik was the one that got killed. But i have to disagree. Idt not watching TVD (when the originals was introduced) is a benefit at all.

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  13. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 2:48 AM

    I AM right. JP and Co just pissed me off and It bothers me. I didn't care for that woman. But if she can come back and wipe Esther and Mikael off the face of the earth, then i'm all for it.

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  14. Morrigan_2575November 11, 2014 at 2:49 AM

    It is to me. I don't have any hangups about the characters pre Originals so I can judge them for who they are here not who they were there.

    If they mentioned in S1 that it was an elder brother that died I didn't remember and kind of don't care.

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  15. Cynthia - 308November 11, 2014 at 3:08 AM

    I just have one word for this episode : WEIRD !

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  16. RLRaGENovember 11, 2014 at 3:12 AM

    Have to say this is my favorite episode of the season, nice set up the next story line.

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  17. RLRaGENovember 11, 2014 at 3:15 AM

    I thought they ever released the name of the first child in either TVD or TO, or did they?

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  18. RLRaGENovember 11, 2014 at 3:17 AM

    I say EPIC.

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  19. tayslick14November 11, 2014 at 3:29 AM

    Great episode, Kol got some explaining to do for Esther.

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  20. johnNovember 11, 2014 at 3:33 AM

    If the writers got as far as making Talia look better Esther, they're doing something wrong here. But at least some more info on Mikeal.

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  21. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 3:37 AM

    They did and it was on TVD. and they mentioned him (w/o giving a name but stating the sex) in TO.

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  22. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 3:46 AM

    Again to each his own. The characters of who they were on TVD never changed from how they're shown here. (bits and pieces but still the same) And with this show, the history is the same, (not including the major change they just pulled tonight) BUT with the people who've never seen TVD, and are just watching this. You get more dialog, and not action, and less of the story. With TO, it just kinda expands a little on what the other fans (the ones who watched TVD) already know. But they create it in different ways, and try to fill in tiny gaps, so it's still interesting, which i find to be a plus.

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  23. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 4:04 AM

    I'm intrigued by the Dahlia story. I assume Hope surviving somehow brought Dahlia back and she will be responsible for... whatever problems make Rebekah return to NOLA in 2x08.


    Aside from that angle, all I care about is what part Elijah will play in this mess. Esther let him go way too easily.

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  24. CCEkekeNovember 11, 2014 at 4:24 AM

    Henrik Mikaelson was the youngest who got killed by the werewolves.

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  25. RLRaGENovember 11, 2014 at 4:24 AM

    I can only remember both Elijah and Rebekah referring to it "as another child" I must have missed the episode when they named it.

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  26. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 4:31 AM

    I think what Aleana Harris is wondering is if Camille is somehow supposed to be Freya, an idea Aleana isn't fond of because it would mean Camille's Klaus's sister and Aleana ships Klamille.

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  27. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 4:35 AM

    "Really wish we had more Elijah"



    For real. I still have no clue what the point of capturing and just letting Klaus take him home so easily was. It made it look like Esther just used him as bait to talk to Klaus.


    Poor Elijah is such a brudesmaid character. Can't be the linchpin even during his own captivity.

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  28. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 5:18 AM

    Ugh....can't stand Cami!

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  29. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 5:22 AM

    Two kids died.

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  30. nobodyNovember 11, 2014 at 5:35 AM

    I don't know what all the "fuss" is about, but I didn't even remember the "first born" dying in Finland or Iceland..........or was it Sweden (don't rip me apart for that "Original Diary Gang") let alone what the kids gender was (points - I do remember Henrik was the youngest and was killed by werewolves, so there lol)! High points this episode - Esther's elder sister being even more powerful and evil/crazy than she is/was. I want to know more about this "firstborn" (Freya) who really isn't dead after all...........whatever the gender is/was suppose to be. Low points of this episode was......NOT ENOUGH ELIJAH! And last.........the actor playing Klaus' father.........I was really wanting Manu Bennett (Deathstroke/Arrow and Crixus/Spartacus) to be Esther's "Native lover", but no series can be perfect I guess. Excellent episode even without enough Elijah and............I still miss "Bex", so there I said it AQUARIUS! 4 THE ORIGINALS, THE COPIES, AND ALL THE REPEATS, I am Nobody!!!

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  31. SaraNovember 11, 2014 at 5:48 AM

    They never mentioned a name for the child though but I would have thought if it had been a twin of Finn's it would have come up.

    The whole sacrificing the first child or whatever it a total retcon and its terrible.

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  32. SaraNovember 11, 2014 at 5:52 AM

    I feel like the writers don't understand what the fans want to see. People loved the characters on TVD and wanted their history expanded on, not retconned and wanting the actual Originals - not these other actors.

    They keep changing things and retconning established cannon and that's not at all what we want to see.

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  33. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 6:04 AM

    wow....totally was not expecting these twists.....


    Yikes....not sure what to make of it all....


    Does this mean Hope is in danger....? If so, I am definitely not a fan of this new storyline....
    For peats she is a baby.....

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  34. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 6:06 AM

    Agreed on the sacrifice angle.

    It's kinda a storyline that belongs on Once Upon A Time....or something about about fairytales...it is very Brother's Grimm.

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  35. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 6:09 AM

    Dahlia came back to get Hope. As Esther's deal with her was that Dahlia can take the first born, in exchange for Esther being allowed to have children. Dahlia in fact gets the first born of each new generation.

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  36. GraydonNovember 11, 2014 at 6:17 AM

    Five bucks says Ansel could take Human Mikael.

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  37. GraydonNovember 11, 2014 at 6:27 AM

    The oldest child was only ever called a child. The sex was never mentioned. In regards to 10, the sister would've just killed Niklaus, Elijah and Rebekah. In regard to eight that'll never happen due to Finn's personality and goals.

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  38. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 6:43 AM

    YES IT WAS!!! It was confirmed numerous times! I wouldn't be so pissed about it if it wasn't confirmed throughout all the years we watched the freaking show! HE was killed BY the plague which is WHY they MOVED in the first place. HE was their first born. Aaron was the first to die. Henrik was the last. It's been branded for years and airing one episode changing the entire history of the Mikaelson family just to fit their stupid SL isn't going to change that. I know I'm not the only fan that didn't notice that tonight. I do suspect I will read complaints about it on other sites.

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  39. grsmNovember 11, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    The show is all over the place right now.The ratings are not a surprise.Klaus bio daddy is alive...seriously?Esther had a daughter and not a son,seriously?And we'll see and Esther sister?What is next?Mikael's brother?Im kidding here but maybe I have to skip the season 2.I'm tired of Esther and her dialogues already.Someone kill her now....please.I don't care about the wolves and at all.They are not even a threat.
    Hayley can't be a main character,give her less scenes and stop forcing Cami into everything.It's not good for her character.Let her be an independent person with her own story.
    I'm very disappointed about this season.Everything is weird.

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  40. gabbyNovember 11, 2014 at 7:41 AM

    GREAT EPISODE!

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  41. gabbyNovember 11, 2014 at 7:43 AM

    ME TOO

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  42. gabbyNovember 11, 2014 at 7:44 AM

    I agree

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  43. gabbyNovember 11, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    LUV BABY HOPE TOO!

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  44. ivanNovember 11, 2014 at 7:51 AM

    KLAUS' BIRTH FATHER IS FREAKING ALIVE WOW!!! did not expect that in a million years, hated jackson's return i was never to see him again so dahlia is yet another villain is this family ever going to be normal with just klaus, elijah, rebekah, hayley, hope and cami

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  45. Gregory BelovNovember 11, 2014 at 7:59 AM

    Dahlia is not just any witch. She's technically family...

    Besides, baby Hope was born before The Other Side collapsed. Her birth may have triggered her return...

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  46. HopeNovember 11, 2014 at 8:15 AM

    That it was a good episode. Did not like the lack of Elijah though. Was happy that Haley was concerned for Elijah and I was happy when Klaus was the one to save Elijah and hot Gia, would rather had it been Haley but was happy it was Klaus. LIke Gia and Marcel together. Esther is still a psycho and I don't know what she did to Elijah and he was still past out and the next episode to. It was hard for me to watch when she slit his throat. I was sad that Oliver died I was stating to like him.. I guess there is another witch to worry about. Don't want them to hurt Hope.

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  47. CarrigonNovember 11, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    Too much Esther! OMG, I was like screaming for her to shut it the entire ep. I am so sick of her.

    Ollie needed to suffer, but I didn't want him dead. That sucked.

    The ep only got interesting at the end. Klaus and his real father, and the revelations about his other sister and his aunt. Beyond that, this ep sucked.

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  48. GraydonNovember 11, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    Whoa okay no need to get so worked. I'm just pointing out that canonically Mikael, Esther or any of the Originals never actually uttered the child's name nor sex. For example Rebekah said, " My parents had just started a family, when a plague struck their homeland. They lost a child to it. They wanted to escape and protect their future family from the same fate.

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  49. skessa85November 11, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    It was awful. Looks like a Season 5 episode of VD. The older brother is a SISTER?? And now we can count on it that she will be alive in a few episodes. Klaus his DEAD father also alive?? Poor Ollie. And Esther and Finn are really pissing me off more every episode. PLEASE bring back the original actors.

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  50. MagNovember 11, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    So Esther big evil sister is coming.........

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  51. Pookie PooNovember 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    for me this ep... answered a lot of questions but then opened the door and gave me a crap load more questions...

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  52. Pookie PooNovember 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    I agree with you on the Cami thing... she's getting on my nerves...

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  53. Pookie PooNovember 11, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    and she can't pull off being a bad ass... it just looks laughable

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  54. Pookie PooNovember 11, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    she was in between a rock and a hard place.... lol.. give up the kid.. or all will be lost...

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  55. notsosweetmeNovember 11, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    I enjoyed the episode, but I felt it was packed! too many new characters introduced! am not feeling Ansel/Klaus dynamic, the show doesn't need it, and certainly not more of Klaus daddy issues!

    not enough Elijah for me -.- I hoped the illusion lasted longer!

    Daliah is a potential, I love that they come up with better villains than TVD

    Esther didn't convince me with her story, you can't sacrifice one kid, in order to have the others!

    Cami....why? I loved her scenes until that stupid line about Finn having her as a weak spot! am angry at the stupid writer who thought of that line!

    am happy with Gia, and Marcel....indifferent abt Hayley!

    all in all, I liked it, definite 8/10 !

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  56. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    "#6. The werewolves are still the least interesting group of characters ever. And, sorry, but I'm now putting Hayley in that category."



    For real, I have half a mind to just skip their parts altogether. Am I supposed to be invested in Jackson and his relationship with his would-be-wife Hayley? Really?


    They seem to have brought Ansel to give that part of the story a boost, but while I enjoy Klaus, I have no interest in his daddy issues beyond Mikael.

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  57. Silas1November 11, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    this show is better with every episode.. I do not understand why people search the 'mistakes'.. enjoy people.. their history is getting more interesting

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  58. cindychandlerNovember 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    I really thought that they mentioned that the first Mikaelson child was a boy. But I can't confirm it so I'll go with the fact that the sex wasn't ever confirmed. I'm not saying that I need to see Finn bond with the family but I just feel like we're so caught up in the history and so many subplots that I'm not feeling the connection between the characters anymore. The Ansel introduction feels forced...I'd rather Klaus have angst with Mikael.

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  59. cindychandlerNovember 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    I completely agree.

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  60. AnnNovember 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM

    I don't think they actually mentioned "a son",,,because I rewatched the TVD episodes with Elijah and Rebekah telling Elena about their story,,,they said "a child"...i think it was only us,the fans/viewers who assumed it was a boy named Aaron and if you think about it,, fans wrote wikia which I believe where most of us read about that child

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  61. AljosaMudriNovember 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    The best episode so far! This season will be awesome. The whole family is in New Orleans. (apart from Rebekah, but she'll be back soon)

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  62. CandyNovember 11, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Had no idea until now that some people thought the kid was a boy called Aaron. Sorry, but that was never canon.

    Enjoyed the ep, loving S2. I feel like TO has really hit its stride this season after an enjoyable but uneven S1.

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  63. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Yet another Original has a thing for her.....she is like kryptonite....
    The scene with Finn, where she was trying to be bad azz made me laugh....ugh

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  64. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Does this story of the sister and magic who then takes the first born not seem familiar? I have to think on this....this seems like a repeat.....

    This new witch better not take baby Hope. FLOVED the scene where Klaus was choking Esther over the baby.....Finally some emotion from him about the kiddie. This is going to be epic. The upcoming battle that is.

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  65. RLRaGENovember 11, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    the other weird thing is they pretty much had Elijah as the eldest and then Finn, they never really said it from memory but its just the way they made it out .

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  66. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Klaus actually was pretty good on showing emotion this epi. I loved how he hugged Elijah when he found him and then cradled him. He is really starting to open up.

    There was a continuity issue....where Elijah was walking out of the crypt.....when I thought he was passed out....

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  67. AsiaNovember 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Another twists I did not see coming. This season gets better with each new episode!!!!! Loved the scene when Klaus found Elijah - he shown his tender side! And the end scene with Esther just wow - his emotions where of a grieving father, suprised he didn't break her neck then and there!!!!

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  68. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Yeah I didn't mind him opening up, it was a nice change from him always crying when he's raged out.

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  69. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Long sigh. Forget it. Don't believe me. And it was in the season, I'm not talking about wiki. But of course everyone is going to believe it. So forget it.

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  70. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    It wasssss mentioned. Smmfh. It was mentioned in the season. It was a boy. Smh forget it, don't believe, idc anymore .

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  71. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    LMAO

    I can't stand the tearing up...esp when the scenes are not that emotional....its weird....even Hayley keeps it together better.

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  72. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    I believe you!

    Some folks just like to argue. Don't take it personally.

    Ultimately tho....we know how lazy the writers are on this show....just goes to further prove it.

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  73. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    We might be the only ones @gabby!

    Seriously, any storyline that threatens her not getting to be with her parents gets a negative from me.

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  74. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    Morgan has not been bringing his A game this season. He looks anemic.....very tired.

    However, I thought he was pretty good in some of the scenes.

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  75. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    "We might be the only ones gabby!"

    lol nah, the Klayley nation loves her and holds her as most importance evidence Klaus and Hayley are meant to be and ultimate soulmates.

    As far as I'm concerned, Dahlia can have her.

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  76. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    I AM starting to wonder if word's gotten around in NOLA that Camille has beer flavored nipples.

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  77. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    Listen....I am not about shipping....I just like the notion of a supernatural kiddie....and supernatural parents rearing said kiddie. The parents can be together as a couple or they don't need to be....this is outside of what I care about....

    Baby Hope is awesome!!!

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  78. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    Not every comment is about a ship.

    Seriously....soo tired of folks derailing others comments to make it about fan or couple shipping....

    Who really cares that much.....

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  79. RLRaGENovember 11, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    no trying to argue, just I also cant remember any of the show naming the sex or name as Graydon states they refer to it as a child, even the wiki site had it as a dead sibling no sex or name until now as freya. someone needs the episode it was in :(.

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  80. RLRaGENovember 11, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    also the child died before they moved to the new world so they wouldn't have put the name on the wall.

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  81. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    "Not every comment is about a ship."

    Sure. But Aleana Harris' was. She clearly typed, and I quote: "I want Klaus and Cami to get together."

    Just, you know, scroll up and READ.

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  82. maclivesNovember 11, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    "Because you came for my child"


    probably his best delivery this season.


    He was never fantastic but always had a level of good acting, this season i don't feel it though.
    Gillies has a steady brilliant performance but I'm not sure if he could do better with the role of Klaus, maybe it`s truly the writing and not JoMo

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  83. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    Why does it even matter anyways if a person is shipping or not?
    Its TV...and it is the person's right to like who they like....

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  84. ManyWaysNovember 11, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    "Why does it even matter anyways if a person is shipping or not?"

    ... it doesn't. robinclank2 replied to Aleana Harris with a comment that amounted to "What you just said makes no sense to me". I tried to clarify.

    We're not talking about a tv watcher's "right to ship", we're talking about very basic reading comprehension.

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  85. Rose GordonNovember 11, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    They had some amazing ideas in this episode with regards to the Hanzel and Dalia plotlines and I always love hearing about original history but did they seriously have to chuck this all into an episode? As much as I love the plot twists I think they need some character developing episodes. Maybe something that doesn't involve Esther. Man her speaches make me want to rip my ears out.

    Also please please PLEASE restore all of them to their original bodies. Seeing other actors play these characters just feels wrong... especially Kol :(

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  86. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    Whatever....just don't read it if you don't like it....

    To be fair, a) English is not everyone's first language; b) people miss things in posts....as there is sometimes a lot to read through and it is important to selectively read.

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  87. Bertha StronghamNovember 11, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    Full agreement!

    Sooo rare for us!

    ;)

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  88. LisaNovember 11, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    Maybe you could mention what episode it was in?

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  89. Charlotte MNovember 11, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    I'm loving this. Just need to give Cami a good story. she's annoying right now. Waiting for elijah to wake up and hear what he thinks about everything that's going on. We need a damn love story. romanticly speaking. there's not. the only one: elijah and haley are now in pause. we need that back. klause need to knw what he wants. coz he mother seems sincere, maybe if he told her what he want her to do for him. if her sister comes back from whatever she's. They will need Ester to protect them. also mikeal and ansol and everybody.

    I'm loving the story, just some character that doesnt fit anymore to me, like cami and marcel. To convince elijah to be the leader of vampire, we dont need him. that little girl either. haley only have to ask him. and the cami klaus thing was horrible. now they trying with finn? well, I've to say I'm curious to know more about finn. if they do it well, it could be interesting, but they have to change cami personallity, es quite annoying to me.

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  90. Charlotte MNovember 11, 2014 at 7:22 PM

    With all the flashbacks, I never thought she was that evil just because. I was waiting for the explaintion and it kind of suit her. I dont know why, but it does, so I'm glad she's not that bad.
    I'd like to know more about Mikeal and Ansel.
    What would happen when they found out the true, specially mikeal. sometimes he seem to love his wife, just to mad to act like a decent person. Ansel is all mistery. it was an alfa? if he was, would he have a new pack or just goes on is own?
    There's good story there. I cant wait for more. definitly more than TVD.

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  91. Charlotte MNovember 11, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Yeah, is what i heard. so they did had a big sis that they never met. henrik died later.

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  92. Charlotte MNovember 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    I disagree, if there's anyone right now who could really reach Klause is Elijah. If she gets him, it'll be a huge step to get Klause.
    Klause cares about haley coz she's the mother of his daughter or Marcel coz is like a son to him, but the bond between him and Elijah is way stronger.
    Is the center here. ok, haley too. lol

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  93. SaraNovember 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Sorry, but romance is the last thing that any of the main characters need.

    I think Josh/Aiden could be good and I'd be fine with them finding someone new for Marcel - neither Cami or Rebekah really worked as good love interests for him.

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  94. PearcecymruNovember 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    Great episode...more Elijah would make it awesome though:)

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  95. O D ANovember 11, 2014 at 9:34 PM

    As a viewer who watched TVD once in a while the retcon this episode did not bother me. Except I always thought the eldest child died of plague. So that maybe the lie Esther told to Mikael to cover her deception. I can live with that. So are we sure Freya is dead? Or will we see another branch of Mikaelsons.


    Klaus's dad is back from the dead? I wish they had casted a little bit more older looking guy. This guy does not look old enough to be Klaus's dad and to give competition to Sebastian Roche.


    Esther is bat shit crazy. Every thing that happened to this family is her doing. She calls her sons monsters while she stands there slitting their throats, breaking their necks and killing their child. I wish Klaus had broken her neck.


    So is Gia interested in Marcel? Why does this girl's scene with every male has sexual undertones to it.


    So Jackson is back and Ollie is dead. I was warming up to Oliver. Jackson and his brooding is boring as is all the werewolf clan and their ever changing loyalties. I liked how hard Hayley tried to save Oliver. I like it that Hayley's loyalty to werewolf's never wavers. Missed Elijah this episode but loved the way Klaus was caring for Elijah for a change when he saw Elijah chained up. He is slowly showing emotions.


    Now finally to Cami. I love Leah Pipes. She is a solid actor and I think Cami has some good chemistry with Klaus. But this character is so out of place in this show of strong supernatural creatures. There is no need for a token human here. Give her some powers. At least give her a power to sense supernatural creatures. And on top of that to think she is Marcel, Klaus and now Finn's weakness. urgh...


    All in all this episode was all over the place. Too much information dump and establishing new back stories to old back stories.

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  96. mwarNovember 11, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    I loved this episode.Klaus' face when he saw his father was great and I didn't expect Dahlia storyline. I would like to know the romance between Ansel and Esther.
    But people should stay dead on that show. Everyone has resurrected!This worst than tvd.

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  97. GraydonNovember 11, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    Lol.

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  98. DebraFanNovember 11, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    Very late to this. But here goes:

    I thought there was a bit too much exposition for one episode - important mythological info was dropping left and right and I had to concentrate so as not to miss anything.

    I know others have spoken about retcons but others have also spoken about a Big Bad even worse than Esther and Mikael. Looks like we are getting it and I am very pleased with the direction of the show.

    Liked Klaus, Hayley, Marcel. Cami did get into a spot of bother but kept her head.

    Also liked the Klaus and Esther scene near the end where he tells her that coming after his child was the deal breaker.

    Don't know how I feel about Klaus' real dad but with Mikael also in the land of the living, this could be a great story line.

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  99. ShannonNovember 11, 2014 at 11:33 PM

    It wasn't just one episode. And I'd have to watch the entire season 3 (and possibly some of 4) just to find it. ButI distinctly remember. I know as a hardcore fan (as we all) that's not much to go on, butI SWEAR it was mentioned a few times. Sigh. Just forget it, really. I'm truly over it. I'm just getting out of work, (longest day ever on 3. Hrs sleep) i just want to wait for The Flash. And SPN.

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  100. AnnikaNovember 12, 2014 at 1:02 AM

    No Finn always has been the oldest. Elijah was second. Then came Klaus.

    I was just confused that Esther mentioned Kol being older than Rebekah, always thought - by the looks - it was the other way around and Kol has been the youngest (surving) Original.

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  101. AnnikaNovember 12, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    Can you just point out the episode where it was mentioned please. I don't remember hearing a sex or a name. Would like to hear/see it for myself. And you seem to be very sure, so I guess you know the exact episode.

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  102. RLRaGENovember 12, 2014 at 3:01 AM

    TVD/TO wiki under the Freya entry has it as fandom said it was a boy named aaron not the shows.

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  103. HopeNovember 12, 2014 at 3:55 AM

    I am a big Elijah and Haley fan but I was happy that Klaus saved him
    rather than Gia, what some people were saying. KInd of like Gia and
    Marcel together. I can not like Esther after what she did to Elijah and
    when she slit his throat that was hard to see. It was nice that Klaus
    finally saved his brother after all the times he saved him, it would be
    nice after all the times Elijah saved Haley she would have saved him but
    she wanted to. Had a feeling she wouldn't but loved the scene with the
    brothers. Would love next week if Haley would show that she cared about
    him maybe holding his hands looks like Elijah had a change of shirt
    would be nice if Haley helped him (wishful thinking) I am a romantic at
    heart. I want this couple to be slow burn. Don't know how Elijah is going
    to act and I don't know what Esther did to him. Like a darker but not
    to dark. Someone said that Esther spirit is inside of him I sure hope
    not, but I don't think so. I guess next season will be fighting against
    the sister. Poor Baby Hope. Interesting that Klaus father is still loved. Not a fan of Jackson

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  104. HopeNovember 12, 2014 at 3:56 AM

    Disagree think that Phoebe and Joseph do great jobs and are great actors. Even though I love Daniel GIllies and think he is so gorgeous and a wonderful actor.

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  105. tayslick14November 12, 2014 at 4:33 AM

    Relax, these people had to come back on this show as equal rivals against original vamps.

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  106. tayslick14November 12, 2014 at 4:45 AM

    I agree Sara, I'm seeing what the romance drama has done to TVD got me thinking is vamps needed any more.

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  107. tayslick14November 12, 2014 at 4:47 AM

    U R Sooooo right

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  108. HopeNovember 12, 2014 at 4:54 AM

    I am a Elijah and Haley fan all the way

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  109. tayslick14November 12, 2014 at 5:13 AM

    I'v read a lot of comments and no one is chatting about Kol's loyalty to Esther. Klaus put him on blast about Mikael's return. Will Kol take some type of physical punishment from moma were his wounds can't heal as fast he'll find his coffin that Klaus has and return to his old self. lol,...just a thought

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  110. lsbloomNovember 12, 2014 at 5:54 AM

    This storyline is a bad idea overall. We've had to accept for two shows now that our protagonists are vicious monsters. Questioning that fundamental fact doesn't lead to anything but dissatisfaction. Hell no, I don't want Klaus human from a story point of view, but we need to believe he would kinda like to be not a monster, that he strives towards humanity as a character arc. It ruins the leads giving the villains the moral high ground.


    I hate this entire story. I hate that I am forced to try to remember silly plots details from years ago because I'm constantly going, "What? That doesn't make sense, didn't they say....before?" And even when I remember them, they've changed now--suddenly. The timelines don't fit, they keep changing things. At one point they had Kol older than Elijah. What is going on with the continuity? But most importantly, I genuinely hate Ester. Not love to hate, not appreciate my hatred for a villain. I hate her. She makes no sense and her story is in constantly flux. 1) Why would your kids trust you, you've spent 1000 years trying to kill them? 2) Why would you think that they would be the same people they were a 1000 years ago even if you did put them in mortal form? 3) And even if they did decide, hey yeah let's start over, why would they forgive you for all you've done?and on and on. She's almost as bad as Mikael but he is at least fairly consistent in wanting his kids dead and not deviating from the bastard/monster rationale. They need to get Ester and Mikael together. They are both culpable and working the same ends and constantly playing against each other.

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  111. HopeNovember 12, 2014 at 6:09 AM

    I am a Elijah and Haley fan and I don't want to see Hope Die. That is the saddest thing. And Oliver dying I did like it was sad. I hate to say this but rather it be Jackson.

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  112. itsmecarrieNovember 12, 2014 at 7:44 AM

    SMG as Freya would be the best thing ever!

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  113. SaraNovember 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM

    TVD is the same way. Stefan & Damon are both horrible people and monsters, and now so is Elena.

    I think it works all the characters are just shades of grey and there's no good vs evil at all. The problem is that Julie Plec tries to make the the characters heroes (and calls them that) even though they're the furthest thing from that.

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  114. lsbloomNovember 12, 2014 at 8:19 AM

    Actually that's my point, I'm comfortable with them being monsters.


    I'm not comfortable trying to rehab villains into being less monstrous than the "heroes" are. Villains can't be more "human" than our heroes, then we can't root for the heroes anymore. I'm just rooting against evil, crazy, badly written inconsistent villains.

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  115. RLRaGENovember 12, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    from TVD/TO wiki says, they have only just confirmed that Finn was older in this episode, before that it was never said who was older only debated. Kol also refers to Rebekah in TVD as baby sis, that was confirmed he was older from the start :).

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  116. LynneNovember 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    What has happened to this show? This is such a sorry state of affairs when the whole Mythology SL,, has been altered to beyond recognition.

    Do the SOD''s (sisters of doom:) & Narducci, not realize that there are those of us whom are familiar with the "Original" back family history.

    Aaron,, being the first born son to die of the plague,, has now turned into a female taken away by her wicked Aunt in repayment for a special spell, so that Esther may have children.
    NOW,, we find out that the first born of every generation must be turned over to Dehlia, Denali, whatever,, and this is the way they are going to explain away Hope's,, reason for being supposedly sacrificed??
    Come on,,. I gave this show 1 more chance to be fair,, but I'm done. Way-to-go J.P. for RUINING another program!!
    They should have continued with the back flashes. That would have been sufficient and way more entertaining.. Lenora as Esther is so not working. Callub as Kol and so on. I am hugely dissapointed in the vein this show has taken.

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  117. LynneNovember 12, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    Hi Shannon:))) This show has sunk not only in viewers but ratings as well. This season is blowing chunks.
    We are familiar as you well know,, with the Original family and it's characters,,
    I have been saying all along the first born had not died. Do you remember?? Will & Wendy used to say I was dreaming. lolol
    Well, the dream has now been made a reality,, but what do they do. They use the character name Aaron,, on TVD,, so of course the SOD's screwed themselves on using that name again. So,, Change the name? why not change the gender, and Age.? Unbelievable!!!
    Moving on,,
    Mr.M abusing Nicklaus was way before Henrik was killed,, which I am sure they will now show that Klaus killed Henrik,, accidentally of course,, But this revelation will come through his dreams & or Nightmares.
    This show has totally bailed on it's "Original" SL Too introduce a new SL,, and to think that will work???? "Delusional".!!!!

    If You are enjoying it,, I certainly don't want to rain on your parade,, but I did give it 1 more ep.

    The operetta "Carmen" has been sung!!.:)))))

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  118. ShannonNovember 12, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Lmfao!!! I <3 u. I'm omw home, get back to u in a few.

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  119. LynneNovember 13, 2014 at 12:13 AM

    Don't hurt yourself. Hugs honey!!:))))))))))))))))))

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  120. LynneNovember 13, 2014 at 12:32 AM

    Hi Twin,, :)))))) The First "Original" family mythology SL. was perfect.

    You missed Norway Twin,, hahaha.
    Why are they starting a new Mythology.?? Hope you like it:)))
    Ob a-dee, Ob a-da, life goes on, la, Yah-la-day life goes on!!.lmbo

    Who care's if Elijah's hair was still perfectly in order. It was all a dream. In the end,, this whole story will be Rebekah's dream. lololol

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  121. nobodyNovember 13, 2014 at 12:38 AM

    Ha, Wonder Twin! Missed you, but................well when did you become such a TV critic? You really giving up on Klaus, Elijah, and "Bex".......I mean Hayley........(lol)? If you need to talk I'm here today, Twin! 4WTP4EVER, I am Nobody!!!

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  122. ShannonNovember 13, 2014 at 12:44 AM

    Ok, I'm home now. (Arrow in 20, soI'll be off in 10 to prep myself). Yes I do remember you saying HE didn't die. (Good times right). And I'm glad you also saw the absurd changes. If they tell some story where Klaus killed Henrik I will be pissed. This episode didn't bode well for me, and tbh, I'll have to watch it again to get all the "New info" on Esther and her background. I am sorry that THIS specifically had to be your last episode, Smh not a way to convince you to stay on board. BUTTTT I would say at least give it to the season finale, uhhhh, MID-Season finale. (Sorry) Mid-finale would be fair, it'd be half the season. But if you want to stop here and now, well I can't stop ya. But we still have TVD. Sooo with that said....I have to bring up my other ship....Steroline (they're my obsession on the show right now) your thoughts? = )

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  123. LynneNovember 13, 2014 at 12:46 AM

    I haven't given up on my boy Klaus,, I'm just not devoting every week to the program,, I can still keep tabs on it,, Oh hate these new characters that are re-placing the Original characters and changing all the rules and SL. Blows chunks and not baby sized ones. lolol Pretty visual huh??? lololol

    I may wait until Bex returns to fire things up!!! Go Rebekah!!!!!:)))))

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  124. RLRaGENovember 13, 2014 at 1:24 AM

    Hi Shannon, one last point then the I'll drop it, If he was named aaron wouldn't the wiki site have had an entry for him?

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  125. ShannonNovember 13, 2014 at 2:26 AM

    Nooo, b/c everything is not on wiki. But his name was translated on the wall. And his sex was mentioned. But like I said, I'm not the only fan that remembers. So that's good enough for me. If you think otherwise, then so be it. It's Wed. Can we drop this now? I'm over it. JP wants to make it a girl, then now it's a girl. Woohoo.

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  126. LynneNovember 13, 2014 at 2:32 AM

    NIGHT: TWIN:)))

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  127. HopeNovember 13, 2014 at 2:50 AM

    ok, Killing a baby so two people can be together I don't think so. And they are not soul mates just because they had a kid, thats my opinion. I don't want to go on and on about ships because I am a Elijah and Haley fan and i feel they are soul mates and they are end game. I believe everyone has their own opinions. But killing a baby no--- that is kind of stupid to say. And I feel its time for Elijah to be happy. And Klaus is a character I don't feel will ever be happy.

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  128. LynneNovember 13, 2014 at 2:54 AM

    Hi back:)))) Just finished getting the 2nd. degree from my Twin about leaving,, I get soooo mad at them for messing with a perfectly mass destructive Originals and turning them into woosies. lolol And Haley,,, is the queen of Shit,, unless they put her with Jack where she belongs buried out in the woods where can't see her. lolol
    I know Arrow is on,, Shoe20 is watching it too as are many others,, except for me,, b/c I am T.V. deprived. lolololol


    Steroline for real??? You are still pushing for that??? Stefan is too good for our Caro. She needs someone dirtier then her,, like Enz-hole. lololol


    Our poor Stefan is getting the Foot -in-the -Arse from the SOD's,,I wonder if he likes it,, he keeps bending over and asking for more.

    What a cheerleader he is.!! ROLF-LMBO Love 2 P.W.(Peace:)))))

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  129. LynneNovember 13, 2014 at 2:56 AM

    No SH** Girl. THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!:))))))

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  130. ShannonNovember 13, 2014 at 2:59 AM

    Hahahaha "Enz-hole." That's funny. And I'll never abandon Steroline. They're my other ship. And sod?

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  131. Bertha StronghamNovember 13, 2014 at 3:23 AM

    OMG girl, I would pitch a fit if they killed the baby. The baby is the only thing that makes this show interesting.

    Sooooo not into the shipping hate that goes on. Like whichever couples you like. I personally am not a fan of any at the moment. However.....I would like the parents to be parents to baby Hope. If that is in a relationship or not....makes not difference to me. Two damaged beings that end up with child have to be responsible parents. This is an important lesson that needs to be extolled upon the audience. Does not matter if they are together or not.

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  132. O D ANovember 13, 2014 at 3:54 AM

    For the first time I felt love from Klaus to someone outside of Rebekah. It was really pleasing to see.
    If Finn won't chew Cami out I will be so annoyed. I don't hate the character but to say everyone is enchanted by her is annoying.

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  133. LynneNovember 13, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Sisters of Doom!! Dries & Plec:)))
    Borrowed Enz-hole from Shoe20. lolol Thought it was good enough to repeat:))
    Left personal msg. for you on old home site. Check it out.:))))

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  134. HopeNovember 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Don't think so. His life is always saving his brother, and now its his turn. Why cant Elijah be happy. Knitting don't think so.

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  135. HopeNovember 13, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    You can have your opinions I will have mine. I was just responding to not killing the baby. And yea I agree they should be parents to the baby. I am just a Elijah and Haley fan along with other people.

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  136. Bertha StronghamNovember 13, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    That's what makes it fun. I was into Hayley and Elijah getting together....but now not soo much. I think each of the characters have too many issues to work out to be in relationships at the moment. Just my opinion of course. So I am happy to see how much of this stuff plays out.

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  137. ShannonNovember 14, 2014 at 2:40 AM

    Will do! = )

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  138. gabbyNovember 17, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Cool thanks and I agree

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  139. gabbyNovember 17, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    I am following you now

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  140. Bertha StronghamNovember 18, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    I'm now following you as well. Amazing. This is gonna be great. :)

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  141. HopeApril 20, 2015 at 7:36 PM

    Elijah and haley endgame for me

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  142. Bertha StronghamApril 20, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    Cool.
    Good on you!

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