Okay it did not leave me exactly breathless but it was a fine episode. (I did vote for "good") The "boys" seem more mature, more grown up and more serious than in season 1. Pythagoras is not as whimpy, Hercules not as drunk and Jason not as ... clueless as in season. He seems to have figured that he has a destiny and wants to fulfil it. Although we are not sure why and what and how. The whole feel of the show was different though and for the better. So if they keep going in that direction ... who knows? Still, and please do forgive me for the comparison (promise I will stop going on about it) but the sudden appearance of MAGIC and spells, a dragonlike creature and a traiterous has me scratching my head here.
Not a bad start to the series, the humour is a lot better and there's a much better sense of teamwork between the main three which is good to see. Loved Robert Pugh, such a great guy, and it's a pity Josef Altin didn't have a bigger role. Juliet Stevenson's talent is being wasted as the Oracle though, I'm a bit sick of hearing about Jason's destiny tbh - although it was nice to see the Argo at last!
I guess the spells were always kind of there with Pasiphae last year, it's just that it was kept under wraps so much that it seems odd being so much out in the open. We didn't really see the god's displeasure either before, just heard characters talking about it, so that was a bit strange as well in some ways. More budget perhaps?
Quite a good start to the new series, with some issues from S1 sorted out - such as the constant fart jokes and storylines that weren't really that important from one episode to the next - and I continue to like the chemistry between the three main boys, as well as Sarah Parish in the role of the main villian. It did take a good 30 minutes for me to get into the show again ( perhaps too much fighting at the start for me ) but once things got going and we had a bit more humour and character moments between the three boys, things settled down.
I do like the more serious & darker tone but there were moments when I thought they may have gone a bit too far in this direction. I would have liked a bit more humour in this opening episode and I hope we'll still have episodes that are a bit lighter in tone amongst all the serious stuff later on.
I still find the actress playing Ariadne a bit weak and Jack Donnelly remains OK in the lead role but he still lacks that extra something, which for me has been made a bit more obvious since discovering Luke Pasqualino ( again, they're both the same age ) and as a result, I sometimes find myself enjoying Mark Addy and the actor playing Pythagorus more than the show's biggest lead. Jason's destiny definitely needs more emphasis this time round, so that he's actually moving forward as a character. Don't get me wrong, I do like the character / actor, I just don't love him.
I agree that Juliet Stevenson's role needs expanding a bit more, we had a lot of these "destiny" scenes last year and they'll start to become a bit old if things aren't taken further here as well.
So overall, I liked the opening episode but I didn't love it, it needed a bit more humour for me.
Like most of the changes they made but maybe they cut back on the humor a tad too much. Pythagoras is stronger now which adds. And having the trio truly bonded now is great. But continue to wish Jason and Ariadne were more charismatic. Hercules and Pasiphae are still strongly portrayed. Why oh why won't they address Jason being from our world--- he continues to act just like he was raised in Atlantis with no memory of his life before he arrived back. They could do so much more with his knowledge of our time in the stories but ignore it except when he reacts to names like Medusa,etc. The CGI of the army outside Atlantis approaching was impressive. Looking forward to a good season.
I think Pugh is only a guest star in the first two episodes rather than in the whole season, only Medea and Dion were announced as new as far as I know. It wouldn't surprise me if Dion turned out to be an Agravaine type character too though, lol.
It feels like they have gone for a siege story to kick start the season off to demonstrate that they are taking the show to a darker more mature place this time round, hopefully once this two parter is over they will have a lighter one to balance it out a bit. It doesn't have the best way to showcase all the characters I feel, although it has done well to make the main three seem more focused. They actually like each other rather than take the pi$$ and bitch a lot of the time, which was one of my problems with S1 - there didn't seem to be any reason why they were friends.
I do fear that like Merlin's magic they know best over the fans wishes, and Jason's time from the future will never really be addressed :s It just seems pointless to introduce such a massive plot point and then never really refer to it again doesn't it! Hopefully I am wrong though, as so many fans do want something to come from this.
I'm looking forward to seeing the siege happen in the next episode, must be an expensive one so I'd expect it not to last very long unfortunately, lol. I think they did well in this episode to show the sacking of the city at the the start of the episode where they rescued Sarpedon, so tricks can be used.
Right, it is just odd that Jason's time travel is being ignored. Plus, did Pasiphae realize it was Jason she was ordering her soldiers to kill -- I mean, she knows from the reveal last season that he is her son.
Ahh, that's true, good point! Are we supposed to believe that she didn't realise it was him, or that her lust for power is so great now that she doesn't care? There's the "I'm your mother!!" line in the trailer, so I assume it's going to come up at some point this season. Thou it does look to be when she's trapped and her life could be on the line that she uses it as a plea to be fair.
I've re-watched the episode, and I think she had no idea that Jason's the one who stole the Palladium. Every single time her soldiers were close to him, she was conveniently absent. And back in the camp, she got a glimpse of Pythagoras running away from her, but that's pretty much all she witnessed. It'd be weird if she tired to suffocate him/starve him/bury him alive, and then attempted to bond with him. But she's the villain, so the writers may surprise us ;D
NOTE: Name-calling, personal attacks, spamming, excessive self-promotion, condescending pomposity, general assiness, racism, sexism, any-other-ism, homophobia, acrophobia, and destructive (versus constructive) criticism will get you BANNED from the party.
Okay it did not leave me exactly breathless but it was a fine episode. (I did vote for "good") The "boys" seem more mature, more grown up and more serious than in season 1.
ReplyDeletePythagoras is not as whimpy, Hercules not as drunk and Jason not as ... clueless as in season. He seems to have figured that he has a destiny and wants to fulfil it. Although we are not sure why and what and how. The whole feel of the show was different though and for the better. So if they keep going in that direction ... who knows?
Still, and please do forgive me for the comparison (promise I will stop going on about it) but the sudden appearance of MAGIC and spells, a dragonlike creature and a traiterous has me scratching my head here.
Not a bad start to the series, the humour is a lot better and there's a much better sense of teamwork between the main three which is good to see. Loved Robert Pugh, such a great guy, and it's a pity Josef Altin didn't have a bigger role. Juliet Stevenson's talent is being wasted as the Oracle though, I'm a bit sick of hearing about Jason's destiny tbh - although it was nice to see the Argo at last!
ReplyDeleteI guess the spells were always kind of there with Pasiphae last year, it's just that it was kept under wraps so much that it seems odd being so much out in the open. We didn't really see the god's displeasure either before, just heard characters talking about it, so that was a bit strange as well in some ways. More budget perhaps?
ReplyDeleteOr falling back on a more successful formula?
ReplyDeleteCould be, lol. I do wish they could remember that Jason is a time traveller thou....
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Ariadne will remain as clueless about her father's friend's duplicity as Arthur was about Agravaine's?
ReplyDeleteQuite a good start to the new series, with some issues from S1 sorted out - such as the constant fart jokes and storylines that weren't really that important from one episode to the next - and I continue to like the chemistry between the three main boys, as well as Sarah Parish in the role of the main villian. It did take a good 30 minutes for me to get into the show again ( perhaps too much fighting at the start for me ) but once things got going and we had a bit more humour and character moments between the three boys, things settled down.
ReplyDeleteI do like the more serious & darker tone but there were moments when I thought they may have gone a bit too far in this direction. I would have liked a bit more humour in this opening episode and I hope we'll still have episodes that are a bit lighter in tone amongst all the serious stuff later on.
I still find the actress playing Ariadne a bit weak and Jack Donnelly remains OK in the lead role but he still lacks that extra something, which for me has been made a bit more obvious since discovering Luke Pasqualino ( again, they're both the same age ) and as a result, I sometimes find myself enjoying Mark Addy and the actor playing Pythagorus more than the show's biggest lead. Jason's destiny definitely needs more emphasis this time round, so that he's actually moving forward as a character. Don't get me wrong, I do like the character / actor, I just don't love him.
I agree that Juliet Stevenson's role needs expanding a bit more, we had a lot of these "destiny" scenes last year and they'll start to become a bit old if things aren't taken further here as well.
So overall, I liked the opening episode but I didn't love it, it needed a bit more humour for me.
Like most of the changes they made but maybe they cut back on the humor a tad too much. Pythagoras is stronger now which adds. And having the trio truly bonded now is great. But continue to wish Jason and Ariadne were more charismatic. Hercules and Pasiphae are still strongly portrayed. Why oh why won't they address Jason being from our world--- he continues to act just like he was raised in Atlantis with no memory of his life before he arrived back. They could do so much more with his knowledge of our time in the stories but ignore it except when he reacts to names like Medusa,etc. The CGI of the army outside Atlantis approaching was impressive. Looking forward to a good season.
ReplyDeleteI think Pugh is only a guest star in the first two episodes rather than in the whole season, only Medea and Dion were announced as new as far as I know. It wouldn't surprise me if Dion turned out to be an Agravaine type character too though, lol.
ReplyDeleteIt feels like they have gone for a siege story to kick start the season off to demonstrate that they are taking the show to a darker more mature place this time round, hopefully once this two parter is over they will have a lighter one to balance it out a bit. It doesn't have the best way to showcase all the characters I feel, although it has done well to make the main three seem more focused. They actually like each other rather than take the pi$$ and bitch a lot of the time, which was one of my problems with S1 - there didn't seem to be any reason why they were friends.
ReplyDeleteI do fear that like Merlin's magic they know best over the fans wishes, and Jason's time from the future will never really be addressed :s It just seems pointless to introduce such a massive plot point and then never really refer to it again doesn't it! Hopefully I am wrong though, as so many fans do want something to come from this.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking forward to seeing the siege happen in the next episode, must be an expensive one so I'd expect it not to last very long unfortunately, lol. I think they did well in this episode to show the sacking of the city at the the start of the episode where they rescued Sarpedon, so tricks can be used.
Right, it is just odd that Jason's time travel is being ignored. Plus, did Pasiphae realize it was Jason she was ordering her soldiers to kill -- I mean, she knows from the reveal last season that he is her son.
ReplyDeleteat this point, the only reason i watch is for the jewelry and costumes!
ReplyDeleteAhh, that's true, good point! Are we supposed to believe that she didn't realise it was him, or that her lust for power is so great now that she doesn't care? There's the "I'm your mother!!" line in the trailer, so I assume it's going to come up at some point this season. Thou it does look to be when she's trapped and her life could be on the line that she uses it as a plea to be fair.
ReplyDeleteShiiit it was this Sunday! let me go watch this!
ReplyDeleteSaturday :o Go, go, go! :)
ReplyDeleteI've re-watched the episode, and I think she had no idea that Jason's the one who stole the Palladium. Every single time her soldiers were close to him, she was conveniently absent. And back in the camp, she got a glimpse of Pythagoras running away from her, but that's pretty much all she witnessed.
ReplyDeleteIt'd be weird if she tired to suffocate him/starve him/bury him alive, and then attempted to bond with him. But she's the villain, so the writers may surprise us ;D
Looking forward to what is ahead and especially to Jason's reaction when he finds out who his biological Mummy is.
ReplyDelete