Enzo's psychotic ass shouldn't have killed Ivy in the first place, she was an innocent person and he killed her for the hell of it so i'm glad she's back, I just wish we got to know a little more about before she became a vampire and her being Stefan's gf isn't a reason not to like her so I have to wait and see how she adapts to being a vampire before I make up mind about how I feel about Ivy because we don't know her as a character yet. I don't remember how she got vampire blood in her system before she was killed, Did we see how it's possible that she's a vampire now or will they explain in the next episode?
I had a feeling that the whole time Enzo following Caroline to find Stefan, he had in mind to make Stefan life miserable. Ivy mention at the end of the episode "enzo made me drink his blood" and then Enzo snap her neck knowing she had his blood in his system. i felt that when he saw Ivy the first time he force her to drink his blood without Caroline knowing or maybe he knew where Stefan was all along and that Stefan was seeing a girl so he decided to do it?
I also think it was Enzo's plan to turn her into a vampire. That way he could turn something pure (innocent human Ivy) into something Stefan hates (being a bloodsucking vampire).
I guess that makes sense and I wouldn't put pass Enzo he 's insane and needs to be killed or just leave the show, I don't need an explanation for his disappearance .
I didn't mind her as a human being, I'm just like okay she has a death wish, bravo for her surviving the first episode. Now in this promo, she just seems sooooooo annoying. Like why are you so happy go lucky? You just became a vampire five seconds ago? And you didn't even know they existed, I don't see how she's so comfortable. (Rolls eyes)
I have a feeling maybe Stefan will be the one to kill her. Enzo did say he's going to make his like miserable. So why not make his gf into a vampire, get her hook on human blood and go on a rampage killing spree and he had to kill her with his own hand.
Well Ivy looks pretty good with that blood bag in her hand so I don't see her going on a "rampage" I don't see Stefan killing her either, neglecting her maybe, but not killing her. Idk who will do it. I have no theories, hell maybe it'll be Tripp.
lol who knows right? but this is vd and the writers always ending up making something dramatic and find ways to make stefan feeling guilty again cause whoever he hook up with either turn into vamps or dies. Even though she's good with blood bag in her hand, can she stand the urge of fresh blood vs a blood in a bag
Shrugs. Don't know. I'm really not looking forward to her story much. Hahahaha Out of everything that's going on she's the least person I'm thinking about. Haha sorry,
true but I'm just hoping its not a love triangle they are trying to set up for Stefan-Caroline-Ivy -Enzo (maybe lol) and let Stefan realized omg I have feelings for Caroline but I can't abandon Ivy blah blah if it its, here we go again
So i can bet Bnnie will stay in that hell just to make sure that guy doesnt come out. tho i think he will eventually come out cause the Gmini coven is involve this season and we havent seen anyone from there except that crazy bastard
Since we all know caroline dries has spoiled that kai will wreck havoc in mystic falls soon,that means bonnie will not be successful to kill kai as opposed to what the promo is trying to tell us!
haha I'm guessing around 3/4 from the past seasons the writers like to drag and make love traingle draggy and annoying. Let's just hope it will be a quick and not painful death for Ivy
Well either way she goes, it'll be quick and painful. LOL stake, painful. Fire painful, heart yank, painful. Sun, painful, wooden bullets laced with vervain, painful. Only thing that would be quick and painless, would be cutting off her head. hahaha, she's damned either way. Now let's guess how she'll die? lol poor bastard. smh welp, welcome to TVD Ivy.
haha man its a hard decision! I'm between stake or rip heart out but I'm going for stake like most unnecessary cast they add on stake is the quick and easy way out. Stake to the heart always does the trick but then again lately its all about the heart ripping lately man oh man.... I'll go for stake what about u?
Maybe this is why one do not sign on to be in VD cause you will be off any second you don't know when
Well, clearly Damon gets sent back while Bonnie yet again sacrifices herself to keep Kai in the prison. I'm thinking that's what's happening at 00:19. So predictable. Then he'll go to the gemini coven to get her out, blah blah.
Wow, so Stefan ignores Caroline for months, basically tells her to screw off when she begs for his help but now that he needs her help, he has her watching over his not so dead girlfriend? Wow. I actually kinda hate Stefan this season.
Lmao, ur comment is hilarious. And I'd go on VD. If it meant I'd meet the cast, and have a memorable death....me I'd go with the heart yank. I'm demented. Lol
haha its true have u noticed when there is a guest start or something on the show they get either stake or burned to death? But I really wonder who will be the one will it be Stefan, Enzo or Damon that will do it? Man we are mean to the character lol
I just saw the sneak preview with Damon and Bonnie, do you think the writers will change the coupling for the show? I mean from articles/rumors I read on Ian/Damon and Nina/Elena are having will they change Damon to fall for Bonnie instead? They have been spending like 5 episodes together lol
Hahaha it's not mean, it's realistic. Why the hell am i caring about some 5 minute character? At this point i just think it was very unecessasary to bring her back. It's really laughable.
N-E-V-E-R!!!! No way, no how. Maybe in some AU. But not this one. I haven't read anything on the matter, i haven't seen anything with Nian, and TBH, idc b/c everyone is talking about. And every time i come across a comment regarding all these rumors and "switching couples" theory I just shake my head. (rolls eyes)
lol everytime I get on a entertainment news site there is always an article on the tension between nina and ian etc even though the resolve the issue things there will be awkwardness between them.
It seems like for Julie to satisfied both of them she might have to change it up since she mention she wouldn't know what to do without either one of them. To me I rather them jus end up alone if it does happen
Nian are professional, their families still interact, they still talk, etc etc. they'll be fine. I could see why there'd be some tension (if any) but they've been through worse, i for one, won't lose sleep over it. Trying to decipher every little thing between them. As far as i'm concerned, this plot in the show is here b/c it's the same with the books, i'm not going to connect with problems the cast, may or may not be having. It's just stupid.
"Changing it up" I don't mind different interactions in a show between characters. I was very surprised two episodes ago when Jeremy and Caroline had a scene and they were talking to each other. Seriously can't remember when they actually had a scene together.
lol true its like the show piles on loads character but they only interact with the same people and what about the others. I think the book the ghost writer ended Elena with Stefan but the original writer wanted Damon but from what the show direction is going the writers look like they want to take it in a different direction. So the ending can be open to me its probably best to end that way.
Its actually nice to see Damon and Bonnie who dislike each other in season 1 actually work together to get out of something, Stefan and Caroline had a great friendship then it got a bit draggy. I was hoping that there won't be a love line between them cause he needs a best friend like Lexy who keeps him ground n not in any love relationship that jeopardized that friendship.
I'm talking about the last few books, i think 6 (DD) was the one with "Damon and Bonnie" interaction, before they got back to Elena, if i remember correctly. Not the ghostwriter book when they bring Damon back. But the series (the entire series, original and ghostwriter books) ended with Delena being together. Which i was relieved to hear. I stopped reading after the first ghostwriter book, i just wanted to see what happened with Damon.
Well, you are talking to the wrong fan, b/c i ship Steroline, have for years, and i'm overjoyed that they've finally gotten to a place where they realize they have feelings for each other. I love their friendship, but they've grown to have feelings with one another, and it's very belivable. I used to get so tired of fans saying Caroline was like Lexi. B/c she never was, she was a good friend like Lexi, that's 100% true, but Stefan actually had/has an attraction to Caroline. If you have an attraction to someone that "JUST FRIENDS" line never works!! Ever!! That's why i laugh when people start complaining about how "steroline's friendship will be ruined, why do they have to do this, can't a man and woman just be friends, blah blah blah." It was there the whole time. Stefan and Lexi never had any physical attraction towards one another, and she was in love with some dude that she turned so she could spend all of eternity with. Stefan and Lexi, true besties, nothing there. Stefan and Caroline, they're the typical, "what if" besties. It seriously surprises me that some fans are still shocked about it. They're not the first opposite sex characters to go through this, and they certainly won't be the last. They'll either end up being friends again, or end "happily ever after" but their friendship won't be "ruined" hit some awkward speedbumps sure, but won't be ruined. But either way, before any of that happens, it'll be explored.
I stop reading the book after the 4th one I felt it was dragging too long so I gave up and I read the ghost writer continue after the publisher wanted the writer to end Elena with Stefan not with Damon. Then a whole bunch of books got publish that I lost track to them.
Don't get me wrong I am Steroline fan but how the writers are setting things up is just not going well. I liked how they helped each other out and was there for each other. Probably I believe he had feeling for her was when he lost his memories, he rather chose to trust Caroline than others. I probably was a bit tad annoyed with her when she protected Enzo when Stefan tried to killed him. I'm like he wanted to make Stefan life miserable and you're going to let him? When Caroline asked Enzo what happen did he ever tell her "I'm going to make his life miserable starting by killing his gf?"
I get it Stefan didn't return her calls and wanted to move on. She has the right to get piss off with him. To me he did that cause he's afraid to feel the pain again. He loved Elena and in the end all he did was feel the pain. I feel like he does have feeling for Caroline but he's afraid if he cross that line he will feel pain again. Maybe that's why he chose not to listen to her messages cause he close the door and doesn't want to open it again. He then let himself come back to mystic falls not only cause of revenge but probably to protect Caroline from Enzo, also to kill Enzo not cause of the gf issue but to end Enzo cause he said he will make his life miserable and to me Stefan only allow Damon to do that due to the guilt he felt toward Damon
Wow you really finished the books early. lol I read a lot further. My favorite is book 6, Dark Dimensions. Book 8 was the beginning of the ghostwriters work and everything after that. And i think like book 13 or something they finally ended it with Damon and Elena. I hope they are done now, i really didn't care too much for book 8 with the ghostwriters. i mean it was okay, but it had this sort of....idk vibe to it like an old series i used to read when i was very young. shrugs.
Caroline didn't know what was going on between Stefan and Enzo when she jumped through, so i wasn't annoyed with her then. But i was annoyed when she "protected" him. (i seriously loathe their interaction since Enzo was first introduced) Then again he's the closest thing she has to a "friend" right now. Stefan ignored her calls/messages b/c he knew she's probably the only one that could convince him to come back. It's killing him. Then of course he wanted "revenge" so him coming back to kill Enzo was just a lame excuse to see Caroline and make things right from their last encounter. Part of it was about Enzo, part of it was seeing his friends, but most of it was checking on Caroline. then he went and put on his "brave face". lol
haha when I noticed there was more books I'm like O.o... okay this is dragging too long so I must end it here. I collect the books maybe one day I will pick it up to read other than that probably not now. Its like when we are young and read them its really interesting cause the genre wasn't so out there but no you turn left and right its vampires, werewolves, hunters, etc everywhere and the genre is jus overused so the vibe is probably different well for me.
I have feeling that Enzo is going to turn against Caroline one day I just don't know why. Even though they are friends but I had this feeling he has some feelings for Caroline the way he acted when Stefan made her cry. People say its a brother/sister thing but there the way he look at Caroline tells he has something for her so I have a feeling he wants to take Stefan out on purpose lol. If Stefan tells Caroline not to hang out with Enzo anymore do you think she will? lol
I'm wondering how Damon will take it if he found out what Enzo is doing to Stefan.
Hahahaha I didn't mean the over time vibe. Like okay, when they did the 8th book is wasn't by L.J. it was the ghostwriters, so they tried to make it all fresh and newish, (which some of it was i guess) but it just ended up feeling like the "Boxcar children books". lol that's the vibe i got.
I never thought Enzo had feelings for Caroline. Still don't. And brothers don't flirt with their sisters. So idk what those fans are thinking. I always felt he messes with her to irk Stefan, and idt Caroline crying had anything to do with Enzo's reaction personally. It was more about his annoyance with Stefan's actions. hahaha, no I think Caroline will still hang with Enzo, well maybe, idk, he's just a fill in until Stefan comes back to his senses.
Screw Damon and Enzo, i'm waiting for my Dalaric reunion!! Omg i may have to shed a tear when the bromance is reunited. lol
omg the boxcar children books I remember reading it like so long ago had good memories of it lol but somehow I felt like the genre itself is like too out there so now I get tired easily seeing shows that has vampire romance related
At first I thought he did but after rewatching some scenes its like he's just hanging around her cause he's lonely and to taunt Stefan since to him Damon is like a blood brother and back in the days when Damon hated Stefan, Enzo goes along with it so to him its like his duty to make Stefan suffer cause he's not caring for Damon he tries to hard to hold on to things. I have a feeling when Damon comes back he's going to be in between the brothers trying to get Damon back into the dark side. Worst is probably he might get Damon to turn against Stefan, Alaric. I feel like Enzo overall is a bad influence
Hahahaha your excitement to the Boxcar books was hilarious. But with Enzo, I think you're giving him too much credit. Lol No one can break the bond of Dalaric. = p Defan otoh, eh we'll see. Lol
haha I remember reading it nonstop but I stopped since my reading teacher told me my reading level is high for that "type" of books lol same as the babysitter club too haha
But then again Enzo is a sadist that seem to enjoy giving people pain for a reason Alaric is indeed stronger than them and it seems like every season or so there is something that gets in between Defan. I'm wondering he was so bent on revenge on Stefan when he keeps thinking it was Stefan that killed the woman he loved but when he found out it was Damon he just let it go. I'm seriously thinking he's just with Caroline to overall piss Stefan off lol
I'm saying that Enzo seem to be obsess with Damon overall like he wants to get rid of Stefan in general to be his brother haha. Maybe Alaric might be his next victim
It was afternoon, i just got tired. It was probably from the food i ate. (I'm off work today so i'm extra lazy. lol) i'm in NYC. it's only 5:09pm now.
As for Enzo, idt he's obsessed, he's just the bestie. And besties do get preditorial. Plus he was with Damon the whole time Stefan wasn't. I don't find his behavior odd. But ummm no no, Alaric will kick his ass. lol They don't like each other anyway, i'm waiting for that show down.
haha I noticed its just 4:22 for me. I'm in houston lol.
Its like Enzo really wants to take out Stefan so Damon can just focus on him lol I know their besties but come on there is a line that is drawn but if the showdown between Alaric with Enzo we all know Alaric is going to win since Esther did made him powerful
Actually i just met Alaric would win b/c his love for Damon is stronger. lmao
And Enzo doesn't want to kill Stefan, he just wants to push Stefan to keep fighting, and he's tormenting him by promising him the same thing Damon did until he does. _He just wants help to get his bestie back. lmao
haha sometimes I feel like the writers aren't really focusing on what they are writing, they just throw things randomly at viewers expecting us to actually get it. But I really wonder how long can they drag VD on for
I read that JP is focusing more on the originals instead of VD. Maybe its me but I do hope it end this season or if not next cause the more they drag on, its becoming too cliche and overusing the plots to the point we can actually figure what is happening
She's been doing that for years, her focusing on the Originals isn't brand new info. She's not even the head writer right now. Caroline Dries is, but she still goes over the script with JP.
And i agree. I used to be so excited when i get something right about the the plots and twists and hell even the dialog, i mean i was CRAZY obsessed. Now it's like oh ok, they're gonna hook up, that person's gonna die, oh she's gonna do this, oh he's coming back to life, oh we have a villain but they're not really a villain, etc etc etc. LOL...i still enjoy the show (it was the first show to ever get me on to sites) but most times i miss the "shock factor".
haha same for me too. I got really excited when it first came out but then after season 3 I just lost interest. I would watch random episodes and read spoilers and comments and i can connect the dots what happen.
Its like the writers every season is reusing the same plot or twist and even with "their" twist it still have the same outcome. We all know whoever enters VD and isn't contributing to the show or isn't stirring up trouble or they had no more plot , a stake thru their heart, ripping the heart out or burn to death is the way writers end them and say "we're sorry your character has to end like that there is no possible way to bring you back so... see you later!"
Oh god, you're one of those?? I HATE that, it's such a pet peeve of mine. (the fans that skip) let's never speak of it again. I'll get annoyed and cut the convo. lol
Lol I tried my best to actually watch it well its more like record on dvr and run scenes that I felt was useless to me lol. let me tell you I didn't watch half of season 5 I tried many times but I couldn't. To be honest, I think the only show I can actually sit thru and watch is supernatural
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bonnie kills kai yay?
ReplyDeleteI'm more annoyed with Ivy now that she's a vampire. I wonder who's is going to kill her next. Lol Damon, where are you going??
ReplyDeleteIt looked like Damon and Bonnie tried to activate that doohickey and it didn't go so well.
ReplyDeleteEnzo's psychotic ass shouldn't have killed Ivy in the first place, she was an innocent person and he killed her for the hell of it so i'm glad she's back, I just wish we got to know a little more about before she became a vampire and her being Stefan's gf isn't a reason not to like her so I have to wait and see how she adapts to being a vampire before I make up mind about how I feel about Ivy because we don't know her as a character yet. I don't remember how she got vampire blood in her system before she was killed, Did we see how it's possible that she's a vampire now or will they explain in the next episode?
ReplyDeleteI had a feeling that the whole time Enzo following Caroline to find Stefan, he had in mind to make Stefan life miserable. Ivy mention at the end of the episode "enzo made me drink his blood" and then Enzo snap her neck knowing she had his blood in his system. i felt that when he saw Ivy the first time he force her to drink his blood without Caroline knowing or maybe he knew where Stefan was all along and that Stefan was seeing a girl so he decided to do it?
ReplyDeletecool promo! definitely better than previous ones
ReplyDeleteI also think it was Enzo's plan to turn her into a vampire. That way he could turn something pure (innocent human Ivy) into something Stefan hates (being a bloodsucking vampire).
ReplyDeleteDo I smell a new love triangle..? Stefan-Ivy-Caroline (-Enzo?).
ReplyDeleteI'm intrigued! Looks good! Who is that Vampire chick speaking to Caro?
ReplyDeleteWhy does it look like Damon got out in that white light and Bonnie got left behind....
ReplyDeleteIvy Stephans girlfriend :)
ReplyDeleteone can only hope.. he's as crazy as they come
ReplyDeleteyeah.. the last thing that's needed is one more annoying person added to the cast... and she's annoying as it gets
ReplyDeletejust watched last nights episode and realized it. It's strange that Caroline is dealing with her.
ReplyDeleteYeah it must be very akward for her
ReplyDeleteI think Damon will come back and Bomnie will get stuck in 1994. Poor Bonnie...
ReplyDeleteI guess that makes sense and I wouldn't put pass Enzo he 's insane and needs to be killed or just leave the show, I don't need an explanation for his disappearance .
ReplyDeleteI didn't mind her as a human being, I'm just like okay she has a death wish, bravo for her surviving the first episode. Now in this promo, she just seems sooooooo annoying. Like why are you so happy go lucky? You just became a vampire five seconds ago? And you didn't even know they existed, I don't see how she's so comfortable. (Rolls eyes)
ReplyDeleteI already stated my opinion above on Ivy. So I won't repeat it, but you'll see it. And no it was not shown. It'll be explained.
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling maybe Stefan will be the one to kill her. Enzo did say he's going to make his like miserable. So why not make his gf into a vampire, get her hook on human blood and go on a rampage killing spree and he had to kill her with his own hand.
ReplyDeleteWell Ivy looks pretty good with that blood bag in her hand so I don't see her going on a "rampage" I don't see Stefan killing her either, neglecting her maybe, but not killing her. Idk who will do it. I have no theories, hell maybe it'll be Tripp.
ReplyDeletelol who knows right? but this is vd and the writers always ending up making something dramatic and find ways to make stefan feeling guilty again cause whoever he hook up with either turn into vamps or dies. Even though she's good with blood bag in her hand, can she stand the urge of fresh blood vs a blood in a bag
ReplyDeleteShrugs. Don't know. I'm really not looking forward to her story much. Hahahaha Out of everything that's going on she's the least person I'm thinking about. Haha sorry,
ReplyDeletetrue but I'm just hoping its not a love triangle they are trying to set up for Stefan-Caroline-Ivy -Enzo (maybe lol) and let Stefan realized omg I have feelings for Caroline but I can't abandon Ivy blah blah if it its, here we go again
ReplyDeleteSo i can bet Bnnie will stay in that hell just to make sure that guy doesnt come out. tho i think he will eventually come out cause the Gmini coven is involve this season and we havent seen anyone from there except that crazy bastard
ReplyDeletedont tell kai is dead i really like him!
ReplyDeleteshyeah lol
ReplyDeletesteven how can you like kai he's a psycho
ReplyDeleteHe is a series regular and won't be going anywhere-so you will just have to tolerate him i guess!
ReplyDeleteSince we all know caroline dries has spoiled that kai will wreck havoc in mystic falls soon,that means bonnie will not be successful to kill kai as opposed to what the promo is trying to tell us!
ReplyDeleteShe reminds me of Human Caroline lol.
ReplyDeleteeww. no.
ReplyDeleteIdt it'll be a sqaure. lol...I'm not even worried about Enzo. Nor am i worried about Ivy, she'll be dead in no time.
ReplyDeletehaha true. Let's guess how long Ivy will be on for?
ReplyDeleteI give it 3 more episodes. (really 2, but i'm being nice).
ReplyDeletehaha I'm guessing around 3/4 from the past seasons the writers like to drag and make love traingle draggy and annoying. Let's just hope it will be a quick and not painful death for Ivy
ReplyDeleteWell either way she goes, it'll be quick and painful. LOL stake, painful. Fire painful, heart yank, painful. Sun, painful, wooden bullets laced with vervain, painful. Only thing that would be quick and painless, would be cutting off her head. hahaha, she's damned either way. Now let's guess how she'll die? lol poor bastard. smh welp, welcome to TVD Ivy.
ReplyDeletehaha man its a hard decision! I'm between stake or rip heart out but I'm going for stake like most unnecessary cast they add on stake is the quick and easy way out. Stake to the heart always does the trick but then again lately its all about the heart ripping lately man oh man.... I'll go for stake what about u?
ReplyDeleteMaybe this is why one do not sign on to be in VD cause you will be off any second you don't know when
Well, clearly Damon gets sent back while Bonnie yet again sacrifices herself to keep Kai in the prison. I'm thinking that's what's happening at 00:19. So predictable. Then he'll go to the gemini coven to get her out, blah blah.
ReplyDeleteWow, so Stefan ignores Caroline for months, basically tells her to screw off when she begs for his help but now that he needs her help, he has her watching over his not so dead girlfriend? Wow. I actually kinda hate Stefan this season.
ReplyDeleteLmao, ur comment is hilarious. And I'd go on VD. If it meant I'd meet the cast, and have a memorable death....me I'd go with the heart yank. I'm demented. Lol
ReplyDeleteso pity ... i kind of liked kai ... and believe me i know that i'm the only one ... but .. still
ReplyDeleteI think she gets dragged over the MF border.
ReplyDeletehaha its true have u noticed when there is a guest start or something on the show they get either stake or burned to death? But I really wonder who will be the one will it be Stefan, Enzo or Damon that will do it? Man we are mean to the character lol
ReplyDeleteI just saw the sneak preview with Damon and Bonnie, do you think the writers will change the coupling for the show? I mean from articles/rumors I read on Ian/Damon and Nina/Elena are having will they change Damon to fall for Bonnie instead? They have been spending like 5 episodes together lol
Hahaha it's not mean, it's realistic. Why the hell am i caring about some 5 minute character? At this point i just think it was very unecessasary to bring her back. It's really laughable.
ReplyDeleteN-E-V-E-R!!!! No way, no how. Maybe in some AU. But not this one. I haven't read anything on the matter, i haven't seen anything with Nian, and TBH, idc b/c everyone is talking about. And every time i come across a comment regarding all these rumors and "switching couples" theory I just shake my head. (rolls eyes)
ohhh, that would be a good kill!!
ReplyDeletelol everytime I get on a entertainment news site there is always an article on the tension between nina and ian etc even though the resolve the issue things there will be awkwardness between them.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like for Julie to satisfied both of them she might have to change it up since she mention she wouldn't know what to do without either one of them. To me I rather them jus end up alone if it does happen
Nian are professional, their families still interact, they still talk, etc etc. they'll be fine. I could see why there'd be some tension (if any) but they've been through worse, i for one, won't lose sleep over it. Trying to decipher every little thing between them. As far as i'm concerned, this plot in the show is here b/c it's the same with the books, i'm not going to connect with problems the cast, may or may not be having. It's just stupid.
ReplyDelete"Changing it up" I don't mind different interactions in a show between characters. I was very surprised two episodes ago when Jeremy and Caroline had a scene and they were talking to each other. Seriously can't remember when they actually had a scene together.
lol true its like the show piles on loads character but they only interact with the same people and what about the others. I think the book the ghost writer ended Elena with Stefan but the original writer wanted Damon but from what the show direction is going the writers look like they want to take it in a different direction. So the ending can be open to me its probably best to end that way.
ReplyDeleteIts actually nice to see Damon and Bonnie who dislike each other in season 1 actually work together to get out of something, Stefan and Caroline had a great friendship then it got a bit draggy. I was hoping that there won't be a love line between them cause he needs a best friend like Lexy who keeps him ground n not in any love relationship that jeopardized that friendship.
I'm talking about the last few books, i think 6 (DD) was the one with "Damon and Bonnie" interaction, before they got back to Elena, if i remember correctly. Not the ghostwriter book when they bring Damon back. But the series (the entire series, original and ghostwriter books) ended with Delena being together. Which i was relieved to hear. I stopped reading after the first ghostwriter book, i just wanted to see what happened with Damon.
ReplyDeleteWell, you are talking to the wrong fan, b/c i ship Steroline, have for years, and i'm overjoyed that they've finally gotten to a place where they realize they have feelings for each other. I love their friendship, but they've grown to have feelings with one another, and it's very belivable. I used to get so tired of fans saying Caroline was like Lexi. B/c she never was, she was a good friend like Lexi, that's 100% true, but Stefan actually had/has an attraction to Caroline. If you have an attraction to someone that "JUST FRIENDS" line never works!! Ever!! That's why i laugh when people start complaining about how "steroline's friendship will be ruined, why do they have to do this, can't a man and woman just be friends, blah blah blah." It was there the whole time. Stefan and Lexi never had any physical attraction towards one another, and she was in love with some dude that she turned so she could spend all of eternity with. Stefan and Lexi, true besties, nothing there. Stefan and Caroline, they're the typical, "what if" besties. It seriously surprises me that some fans are still shocked about it. They're not the first opposite sex characters to go through this, and they certainly won't be the last. They'll either end up being friends again, or end "happily ever after" but their friendship won't be "ruined" hit some awkward speedbumps sure, but won't be ruined. But either way, before any of that happens, it'll be explored.
I stop reading the book after the 4th one I felt it was dragging too long so I gave up and I read the ghost writer continue after the publisher wanted the writer to end Elena with Stefan not with Damon. Then a whole bunch of books got publish that I lost track to them.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong I am Steroline fan but how the writers are setting things up is just not going well. I liked how they helped each other out and was there for each other. Probably I believe he had feeling for her was when he lost his memories, he rather chose to trust Caroline than others. I probably was a bit tad annoyed with her when she protected Enzo when Stefan tried to killed him. I'm like he wanted to make Stefan life miserable and you're going to let him? When Caroline asked Enzo what happen did he ever tell her "I'm going to make his life miserable starting by killing his gf?"
I get it Stefan didn't return her calls and wanted to move on. She has the right to get piss off with him. To me he did that cause he's afraid to feel the pain again. He loved Elena and in the end all he did was feel the pain. I feel like he does have feeling for Caroline but he's afraid if he cross that line he will feel pain again. Maybe that's why he chose not to listen to her messages cause he close the door and doesn't want to open it again. He then let himself come back to mystic falls not only cause of revenge but probably to protect Caroline from Enzo, also to kill Enzo not cause of the gf issue but to end Enzo cause he said he will make his life miserable and to me Stefan only allow Damon to do that due to the guilt he felt toward Damon
Wow you really finished the books early. lol I read a lot further. My favorite is book 6, Dark Dimensions. Book 8 was the beginning of the ghostwriters work and everything after that. And i think like book 13 or something they finally ended it with Damon and Elena. I hope they are done now, i really didn't care too much for book 8 with the ghostwriters. i mean it was okay, but it had this sort of....idk vibe to it like an old series i used to read when i was very young. shrugs.
ReplyDeleteCaroline didn't know what was going on between Stefan and Enzo when she jumped through, so i wasn't annoyed with her then. But i was annoyed when she "protected" him. (i seriously loathe their interaction since Enzo was first introduced) Then again he's the closest thing she has to a "friend" right now. Stefan ignored her calls/messages b/c he knew she's probably the only one that could convince him to come back. It's killing him. Then of course he wanted "revenge" so him coming back to kill Enzo was just a lame excuse to see Caroline and make things right from their last encounter. Part of it was about Enzo, part of it was seeing his friends, but most of it was checking on Caroline. then he went and put on his "brave face". lol
haha when I noticed there was more books I'm like O.o... okay this is dragging too long so I must end it here. I collect the books maybe one day I will pick it up to read other than that probably not now. Its like when we are young and read them its really interesting cause the genre wasn't so out there but no you turn left and right its vampires, werewolves, hunters, etc everywhere and the genre is jus overused so the vibe is probably different well for me.
ReplyDeleteI have feeling that Enzo is going to turn against Caroline one day I just don't know why. Even though they are friends but I had this feeling he has some feelings for Caroline the way he acted when Stefan made her cry. People say its a brother/sister thing but there the way he look at Caroline tells he has something for her so I have a feeling he wants to take Stefan out on purpose lol. If Stefan tells Caroline not to hang out with Enzo anymore do you think she will? lol
I'm wondering how Damon will take it if he found out what Enzo is doing to Stefan.
Hahahaha I didn't mean the over time vibe. Like okay, when they did the 8th book is wasn't by L.J. it was the ghostwriters, so they tried to make it all fresh and newish, (which some of it was i guess) but it just ended up feeling like the "Boxcar children books". lol that's the vibe i got.
ReplyDeleteI never thought Enzo had feelings for Caroline. Still don't. And brothers don't flirt with their sisters. So idk what those fans are thinking. I always felt he messes with her to irk Stefan, and idt Caroline crying had anything to do with Enzo's reaction personally. It was more about his annoyance with Stefan's actions. hahaha, no I think Caroline will still hang with Enzo, well maybe, idk, he's just a fill in until Stefan comes back to his senses.
Screw Damon and Enzo, i'm waiting for my Dalaric reunion!! Omg i may have to shed a tear when the bromance is reunited. lol
omg the boxcar children books I remember reading it like so long ago had good memories of it lol but somehow I felt like the genre itself is like too out there so now I get tired easily seeing shows that has vampire romance related
ReplyDeleteAt first I thought he did but after rewatching some scenes its like he's just hanging around her cause he's lonely and to taunt Stefan since to him Damon is like a blood brother and back in the days when Damon hated Stefan, Enzo goes along with it so to him its like his duty to make Stefan suffer cause he's not caring for Damon he tries to hard to hold on to things. I have a feeling when Damon comes back he's going to be in between the brothers trying to get Damon back into the dark side. Worst is probably he might get Damon to turn against Stefan, Alaric. I feel like Enzo overall is a bad influence
Hahahaha your excitement to the Boxcar books was hilarious. But with Enzo, I think you're giving him too much credit. Lol No one can break the bond of Dalaric. = p Defan otoh, eh we'll see. Lol
ReplyDeletehaha I remember reading it nonstop but I stopped since my reading teacher told me my reading level is high for that "type" of books lol same as the babysitter club too haha
ReplyDeleteBut then again Enzo is a sadist that seem to enjoy giving people pain for a reason Alaric is indeed stronger than them and it seems like every season or so there is something that gets in between Defan. I'm wondering he was so bent on revenge on Stefan when he keeps thinking it was Stefan that killed the woman he loved but when he found out it was Damon he just let it go. I'm seriously thinking he's just with Caroline to overall piss Stefan off lol
I had those too. The BSC books.I remember getting overly excited when the movie was coming out. Lol
ReplyDeleteUmm, what?? Lol I'm getting tired, you'll have to make shorter sentences that make sense. Lol seriously, I'm trying not to sleep right now.
lol it's morning for me where are you at?
ReplyDeleteI'm saying that Enzo seem to be obsess with Damon overall like he wants to get rid of Stefan in general to be his brother haha. Maybe Alaric might be his next victim
It was afternoon, i just got tired. It was probably from the food i ate. (I'm off work today so i'm extra lazy. lol) i'm in NYC. it's only 5:09pm now.
ReplyDeleteAs for Enzo, idt he's obsessed, he's just the bestie. And besties do get preditorial. Plus he was with Damon the whole time Stefan wasn't. I don't find his behavior odd. But ummm no no, Alaric will kick his ass. lol They don't like each other anyway, i'm waiting for that show down.
haha I noticed its just 4:22 for me. I'm in houston lol.
ReplyDeleteIts like Enzo really wants to take out Stefan so Damon can just focus on him lol I know their besties but come on there is a line that is drawn but if the showdown between Alaric with Enzo we all know Alaric is going to win since Esther did made him powerful
Actually i just met Alaric would win b/c his love for Damon is stronger. lmao
ReplyDeleteAnd Enzo doesn't want to kill Stefan, he just wants to push Stefan to keep fighting, and he's tormenting him by promising him the same thing Damon did until he does. _He just wants help to get his bestie back. lmao
haha sometimes I feel like the writers aren't really focusing on what they are writing, they just throw things randomly at viewers expecting us to actually get it. But I really wonder how long can they drag VD on for
ReplyDeleteOh I blame C.D. for that, not so much JP. I'm hoping it'll end this season, but if not DEFINITELY 7th season.
ReplyDeleteI read that JP is focusing more on the originals instead of VD. Maybe its me but I do hope it end this season or if not next cause the more they drag on, its becoming too cliche and overusing the plots to the point we can actually figure what is happening
ReplyDeleteShe's been doing that for years, her focusing on the Originals isn't brand new info. She's not even the head writer right now. Caroline Dries is, but she still goes over the script with JP.
ReplyDeleteAnd i agree. I used to be so excited when i get something right about the the plots and twists and hell even the dialog, i mean i was CRAZY obsessed. Now it's like oh ok, they're gonna hook up, that person's gonna die, oh she's gonna do this, oh he's coming back to life, oh we have a villain but they're not really a villain, etc etc etc. LOL...i still enjoy the show (it was the first show to ever get me on to sites) but most times i miss the "shock factor".
haha same for me too. I got really excited when it first came out but then after season 3 I just lost interest. I would watch random episodes and read spoilers and comments and i can connect the dots what happen.
ReplyDeleteIts like the writers every season is reusing the same plot or twist and even with "their" twist it still have the same outcome. We all know whoever enters VD and isn't contributing to the show or isn't stirring up trouble or they had no more plot , a stake thru their heart, ripping the heart out or burn to death is the way writers end them and say "we're sorry your character has to end like that there is no possible way to bring you back so... see you later!"
Oh god, you're one of those?? I HATE that, it's such a pet peeve of mine. (the fans that skip) let's never speak of it again. I'll get annoyed and cut the convo. lol
ReplyDeleteLol I tried my best to actually watch it well its more like record on dvr and run scenes that I felt was useless to me lol. let me tell you I didn't watch half of season 5 I tried many times but I couldn't. To be honest, I think the only show I can actually sit thru and watch is supernatural
ReplyDeleteThis conversation is over you made it worse. LOL go away. I'll tty next week when the 200th episode airs. lol
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