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Reign - Season 2 - MAJOR SPOILER

15 Oct 2014

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Sandi is part of the Senior Staff at SpoilerTV having been a contributor from back in the Lost days of DarkUFO, and who now writes previews for Banshee, The Musketeers, Atlantis, and other BBC shows. She also enjoys watching and commenting on other shows such as Sons of Anarchy, Hannibal, Game of Thrones and Elementary.
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85 comments:

  1. Sandi15 October 2014 at 15:44

    Yeah, that was my reaction too. Things got serious!

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  2. Geo N15 October 2014 at 15:52

    I wonder how they will show such a violent scene?

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  3. Elle Greene15 October 2014 at 15:52

    Especially on the CW.

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  4. Bazooka15 October 2014 at 15:57

    They will probably focus on their faces.

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  5. Katerina2215 October 2014 at 16:10

    Did not see that coming..
    But let me guess,a couple episodes later she'll find out that she's pregnant and we'll spend the rest of the season wondering if it is Francis' baby or not.

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  6. Nicole15 October 2014 at 16:14

    Wow, I understand the need for drama but this disgusts me. I know what I'm getting into when I tune into SVU but not on Reign. This is such a delicate issue I hope the writers know what they are doing.

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  7. *A*15 October 2014 at 16:14

    ding Ding DING !!! We have a winner folks.

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  8. Aleana Harris15 October 2014 at 16:20

    Wow!

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  9. Sandi15 October 2014 at 16:35

    Do you think the writers will change such an important piece of history like that though?

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  10. Kwacenka15 October 2014 at 16:39

    Wow, poor Mary, that´s gonna change her forever. I´m also curious how will they show this scene, it´s CW after all.

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  11. Spindae215 October 2014 at 16:40

    Just what is the source on this? Don't get me wrong I'm a spolierbeliver but just to have some orientation.
    It would be quite the game changer and I assume this will be Narcisse. With the way they portrayed the him he seems quite powerful.

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  12. Anna15 October 2014 at 16:42

    I'm like 99% sure that this spoiler is fake. It sounds like it's referring to episode 1x07, from all the way back in S1, with that Italian Count who wanted revenge for his son's death and tried to rape Mary while Francis was leading the servants out of the castle. Please check your source.

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  13. Sandi15 October 2014 at 16:49

    No, it's not from S1, definitely from an episode for next month :)

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  14. DarkUFO15 October 2014 at 16:54

    From SpoilerTV :)

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  15. Geo N15 October 2014 at 16:56

    exactly...

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  16. Geo N15 October 2014 at 16:58

    You are most likely correct. Still, it is such a delicate and important subject that even doing the scene like that will be controversial. I just dislike seeing that sort of thing in any capacity.

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  17. TheFirst15 October 2014 at 17:03

    Woah, I'm not sure if I want to see a scene like that. The scene in Maleficent where she discovers her wings are gone was hard enough for me so to see an actual rape scene..

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  18. Spindae215 October 2014 at 17:04

    Okay! Than it's legit. ;-)

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  19. Sandi15 October 2014 at 17:05

    Unfortunately, in a historical drama it is something that does come up all to often, although with the Queen it is more unusual, granted. Outlander treats the subject matter fairly well I feel, being a story told from a woman's point of view probably helps on that score though. I think it's brave for the CW to do this, and in many ways will applaud them if they treat this right, if they get it wrong however, and it's something Mary 'gets over' in less than an episode say, I won't be impressed...

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  20. Geo N15 October 2014 at 17:11

    Well said...I agree.

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  21. Spindae215 October 2014 at 17:21

    The other possibility is them to show the shadows and let the viewers realize what is happening! The Private Practice rape scene from season 4 was done quite roughly and with plenty violence shown. But it was more about the post rape scene that was really moving and bringing edge to the story.
    Will be interesting to see Adelaide pull that off?

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  22. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:34

    The writers have already given Francis a bastard brother and now a bastard child so I wouldn't doubt it!

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  23. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:37

    Or they could have Mary be pregnant already by Francis and have a miscarriage due to a brutal rape. There was a preview on EW yesterday and Francis says to Mary that it's the happiest he's been. So maybe that refers to the moment she tells him she's pregnant?? IRL there was a rumored miscarriage.

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  24. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:39

    Yeah, it came as quite a shock. I'm glad I actually read the spoiler because it would have been even more upsetting having it sprung on me during the episode.

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  25. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:40

    Definitely Narcisse since it says he wants revenge for the death of his son.

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  26. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:42

    Wow, I didn't even think of that. I wish it were for that episode but I have a feeling the spoiler may be accurate. :(

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  27. Ron15 October 2014 at 17:44

    I want to read but i dont want to read. God this is hard! I WONT READ IT!

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  28. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:45

    I reread it and it does say while Francis is away so I don't think it was for 1x07 unfortunately.

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  29. Bsweetz15 October 2014 at 17:47

    won't be Narcisse. One, he will be around all season and the actor who plays him said he won't be a full out villian. and two, It will be a protestant according to another casting spoiler. So I'm thinking Mary and Francis do something or fail to do something while under the control of Narcisse leading to this man's son's death. I get that the writers want to show the escalating violence between protestants and catholics during this time but this ain't the way. And if they're doing it for ratings, that's just sick and it will backfire.

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  30. Bsweetz15 October 2014 at 17:48

    or they could have Mary and Francis raising two bastards!! How lovely! idiots.

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  31. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:52

    It's bad enough that the writers gave us this damn Frola baby storyline now this!!

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  32. Laura15 October 2014 at 17:55

    You have all the scoop! I hadn't seen that yet. Just recognized your name from the EW site! LOL

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  33. Anna15 October 2014 at 18:05

    How are you so sure?

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  34. Spindae215 October 2014 at 18:07

    Hmmm interesting. I don't think it's cause of the ratings. These stories are planned a lot earlier.

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  35. Sandi15 October 2014 at 18:08

    Because I am :)

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  36. *A*15 October 2014 at 18:15

    To legit to quit.

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  37. *A*15 October 2014 at 18:27

    Mary likely was raped by Lord Bothwell in 1587 at Dunbar Castle.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Queen_of_Scots

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  38. Victoria Llanos15 October 2014 at 18:28

    Wow... I'm not sure what to say...

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  39. Sandi15 October 2014 at 18:28

    Hmm, I think that was likely made up after the marriage myself. Historians are split on that thou :p

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  40. Kira Lynn Heinrich15 October 2014 at 18:47

    this mite not be true fans. we will have to wait and see..

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  41. Aydrian15 October 2014 at 18:57

    As much as I like the show, this isn't something I want to see, so I think I'm going to stop watching. My career puts me in front of victims more often than I'd like, I don't want to see it in my tv shows as well.

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  42. Bey15 October 2014 at 18:59

    but will this be a real rape or and attempt like it happend already in the show? Mary was almost raped not one but 2 times! And also them using this twist to give her a pregnancy... that would be so disgusting.

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  43. Sandi15 October 2014 at 19:10

    I know nothing about her becoming pregnant, that is something that some people are guessing may happen. I personally hope that does not happen as I agree with you that it is not necessary at all.

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  44. Bey15 October 2014 at 19:24

    but will she be really raped? or is just another attempt of rape?

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  45. Faye Mitchell15 October 2014 at 19:25

    I will be flabbergasted if this is true. The ratings for Reign aren't good and these type of storylines, if not handled properly, run the risk of alienating even a core audience. That is not something Reign can afford.


    I'm also confused as to why they set the show in Mary's time in France if this is the kind dark stories they want to do (assuming the spoiler is true). Why not set it during Mary's reign in Scotland? When she was perhaps raped by her third husband? Or why not make it about Elizabeth I? Who was sexually assaulted by her step father, Thomas Seymour, when she was 14. Seems a strange choice.


    The show was at its best last year when it was a bit of camp fun, mixed with a bit of history (and I mean a bit) and some political fluff. I'm not sure the show could handle a storyline like this, nor am I sure that their core following will go for it.

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  46. Lanie15 October 2014 at 19:26

    That is a stupid reason to quit watching. It's just tv.

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  47. Juliet15 October 2014 at 19:33

    Are you guys sure this is a confirmed spoiler? That it's true? This sounds too brutal for a CW show...

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  48. Bsweetz15 October 2014 at 19:51

    I'm someone who loved the show during eps 1-8 but has steadily lost interest since then. It was around mid last season when I began to wonder whether these writers knew their audience at all. Around eps 10-12 the writers loss viewers that never returned. Then they made the show even darker in the back half and continued to lose viewers. There's zero joy in the show now and no sign of hope.

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  49. Aydrian15 October 2014 at 19:55

    I really couldn't care less what you think is stupid.

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  50. Euphemia15 October 2014 at 20:56

    I quit watching 90210 during the middle of S2 but I think there was a rape scene in the season finale. Can anybody said how explicit it was?

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  51. Babar Suhail15 October 2014 at 21:09

    Yes, it's confirmed.

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  52. Babar Suhail15 October 2014 at 21:10

    You'd be a 100% wrong.

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  53. lizochka15 October 2014 at 21:22

    The sad part is that Reign will use it for the shock value, so they can get an article about how Reign tackles the big subjects like masturbation and rape, etc. They already had sexual abuse shown in the show, but it was glossed over and that made me lose a lot of respect for the writers. Kenna was forced into sexual relations with that girl Henry killed and was even drinking to help herself get through it and it was glossed over and basically had no effects. Not to mention the promos for the episode were focusing on the sexiness of it. I mean, really? They're not afraid to stoop rather low.

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  54. Sebastian1915 October 2014 at 21:29

    God, yes! You remind me how powerful that scene and storyline were; it was really painful and intriguing to see Charlotte that way and I d o think it was well handled

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  55. crysren15 October 2014 at 22:26

    These writers are absolutely not capable of handling this kind of storyline with the kind of depth and weight it deserves. This is another misguided stab at sensationalism in attempt to lure audience by proclaiming how edgy and sexy they are. This is not the Reign I tuned in for.

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  56. Pamela Doe15 October 2014 at 22:32

    wow! i just know that this is how mary will finally get pregnant.

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  57. Sandi15 October 2014 at 22:36

    Hey Juliet, how's you? Yeah it's true, but I'm hoping that it will be handle well. Mary was a fighter all her life, even after being held prisoner for years by her cousin Elizabeth. I think it's a brave topic for them to take on, but it's something that many woman of that era had to face unfortunately so it's no surprise that it does come up in historical dramas fairly regularly.

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  58. Juliet15 October 2014 at 22:39

    I'm good. :) It's always nice to chat with you. I also hope the writers will handle such a storyline with care. I hope Francis will be there for Mary all the way. Last thing I want to see is them falling apart. She'll need him the most during this time.

    Sandi, do you know if this episode has already been filmed? And which episode number it is?
    Thank you for responding to me.

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  59. Juliet15 October 2014 at 22:44

    Thank you for letting me know. I'm still a bit surprised that CW is doing this storyline. Their viewers are so young. Fingers crossed it will be handled with care. And I hope a strong Frary will come out of this. She'll need her husband more than ever now. And I can't wait to see how Toby/Ade will handle this storyline. I think they're such strong actors. So I'm sure they'll do the storyline justice.

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  60. Graydon15 October 2014 at 22:48

    Well that's dark.

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  61. Joy Haldar15 October 2014 at 22:51

    This news made me puke a little.Is this what called a good storyline now?Disgusting.Reign is doing their best to make me not wanna continue anymore!I really hope they don't go forward with this or somehow this storyline gets altered or something.

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  62. Sandi15 October 2014 at 22:54

    It been a while hasn't it, S2 isn't far off now though...did you see the location photo Tamla tweeted today? We're thinking Constance and d'Artagnan may have slipped off together in episode 9 ;) hehe

    I think Kane is more than up for the task, she's been strong so far this season and this a role challenge that I think she will relish, most actress would imo! I really hope that she doesn't fall pregnant, I think that there is enough to explore without that 'tackiness' being added onto the storyline myself. But, I do kind of half remember there being a couple of children mentioned by Mary in Nostradamus' prophecy where he saw Francis' death just before the wedding? I so hope that isn't where the writers are going with this tbh.

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  63. Susan Hayes15 October 2014 at 23:45

    its been removed from the site, there has been indication of violence but nothing along the lines of rape

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  64. Alena16 October 2014 at 00:46

    They deleted it!!! WHAT DID IT SAY!? Everyone on Tumblr is freaking out!

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  65. Claire McCrorie16 October 2014 at 02:40

    yes! someone! what did it say!

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  66. Alena16 October 2014 at 03:06

    Ok so someone on tumblr very kindly filled me in this is what i heard "it said that in a months time (i think) around episode 9/10 while Francis was away Marys life would be in danger as a noble siege the castle or something like that in retribution for the death of his son and rape the queen in his anger, i really really hope its fake but the fact they just took it down and haven’t said anything really worries me =("

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  67. Juliet16 October 2014 at 05:09

    Sandi, I had no idea that we got new possible Constagnan scoop! Got to check that out now! :) Thanks! Can't believe they're already filming episode 9! Time goes by so fast!


    From what I remember, I think Frary were talking about their future children and how they'd raise them together in Nostradamus' vision/prophecy. They were in bed, and Francis was slipping away...


    Do you have any scoop on Francis being there for Mary during this difficult time? From the sides? I just really hope the writers will respect the Frary relationship and let him be there for her.

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  68. Brenda16 October 2014 at 05:24

    From what I can remember, that 90210 scene was not explicit at all, it was more implied through dialogue and cuts out. That's why I'm having a hard time seeing how it's going to be handled on Reign.

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  69. Sandi16 October 2014 at 12:30

    There's been a few bits, if you check the speculation thread out there's a photo or two too :)


    Our contact didn't really say much more I'm afraid, and I don't think we're allowed to say any more on it at present any way. Sorry hun xx

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  70. Euphemia16 October 2014 at 14:29

    Thank you for your answer. Then I guess it's going to be like that in Reign too.

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  71. lizochka16 October 2014 at 16:29

    I do agree with you, but the ratings really dropped after 1x13. They were 1.75 viewers for that episode, (so the previous lower ratings likely had to do with what else might have been on and I remember around that time it was hard to watch because of college basketball, in my area, Reign wasn't on at all or came on very late), which was higher than the previous two, but the one that came after was only 1.48. The ratings rose a tiny bit for 1x15 to 1.61, but the ratings never recovered after that. They spoiled Bash's forced marriage to Kenna the day of the episode and the ratings for that episode (1x16) weren't too hot at only 1.40. That storyline was obviously very unpopular, because after that there was never really a comeback. 1x17 only brought in 1.23, which was the lowest of the season before the season finale.

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  72. Bsweetz16 October 2014 at 16:41

    Bash and Kenna are popular. The ratings were on the rise until about episode 10 and never really recovered once it hit so low during 1x12. Folks tuned out during the bash legitimization arc when all the joy in the show started to disappear. People tuned back in during 1.13 because it was the big wedding episode but then darkness followed in 1x14. I don't think Bash/Kenna has anything to do with the drop in ratings during 1x16, alot of people tuned out because of henry's madness that occurred during that time. too dark for this sort of show. Then Lola's pregnancy and Mary turned into to Cath 2.0. Many people have commented that Bash/Kenna was one of the few things the show got right in the end and they have been the only light on the show imo. The show got too dark and made the ladies, minus Kenna, too miserable

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  73. ash42916 October 2014 at 19:07

    It's still Francis' kid. The baby did nothing wrong.

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  74. ash42916 October 2014 at 19:10

    I mean, rape was very common back then, though. It's brutal and hard to watch, but it's not unrealistic.

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  75. Babar Suhail17 October 2014 at 00:06

    Long story short: Mary gets raped.

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  76. gabby17 October 2014 at 03:00

    good point

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  77. ReignReigns17 October 2014 at 19:10

    Where is the "speculation thread"? I've been looking everywhere and can't find what you're referring to. Please help!

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  78. Victoria Llanos17 October 2014 at 19:37

    Well, since they asked for this to be removed I'm going to guess this was true. I hope they handle it well, although I don't have high hopes. Oh well...

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  79. ReignReigns17 October 2014 at 20:31

    As awful as I agree it is, now that the shock has worn off, I'm not as uncomfortable with it. I actually do trust the Reign writers - I think the way they've handle women related issues has been pretty impressive thus far - and I'm hoping in keeping with that, they write it in a way that doesn't exploit the subject matter, but shows they aren't afraid to shy away from a very prevalent, current topic that doesn't really get enough attention. Again - if it's being used as a ploy, it's not okay. But with the way of these writers, I have faith. It could be really impressive network tv in the end. We shall see.

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  80. Sandi17 October 2014 at 22:56

    We're talking about the Season 2 speculation thread for The Musketeers, which is the show where Juliet and I met each other earlier this year during S1 of that show. She's a big fan of Constagnan ship, and I run a thread here that collects all the news about the filming that's happening atm, it can be found here - http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/04/the-musketeers-season-2-filming-updates.html

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  81. EV∆- No Reign Rape18 October 2014 at 01:03

    If you are against this SL on Reign please join us and sign this petition http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-rape-on-reign

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  82. Victoria Llanos18 October 2014 at 01:27

    I wish I could be as confident in the writers as you...

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  83. Stacey L Toth18 October 2014 at 02:07

    Does she get raped? They removed the spoiler before I saw it. :/

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  84. Joanna21 October 2014 at 21:20

    not on royal wifes... one would die a horrible death for such crime... besides royal wifes would hardly ever be alone...

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  85. Joanna21 October 2014 at 21:20

    oh Reign.... so desperate for attention and ratings? no comment

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