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Metered Market Thursday Ratings
Mixed Results for Trio of Series Openers
Thursday 10/02/14
Metered Market Results
Household
Rating/Share
CBS 8.2/14
ABC 7.7/12
Fox 3.6/ 6
NBC 3.3/ 5
CW 1.3/ 2
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-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Thursday 10/02/13:
ABC: +17, CBS: + 8, NBC: + 6, Fox: -12, CW: -28
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account additional benchmarks including the expected Live + Same Day demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.
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-Winners:
“Thursday Night Football” (CBS), “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC), “Scandal” (ABC), “How To Get Away With Murder” (ABC)
-Respectable Sampling:
“Bad Judge” (NBC)
-On the Downside:
“The Vampire Diaries” (CW)
-Losers:
“A To Z” (NBC), “Gracepoint” (Fox), “Reign” (CW), “Parenthood” (NBC)
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Ratings Breakdown:
The Minnesota Vikings at the Green Bay Packers on “Thursday Night Football” kept CBS in the Thursday overnight winner’s circle, with an approximate 8.5 rating/14 share in households from 8:30-11:30 p.m. ET. Comparably, this was an estimated seven percent below the week-ago match-up between the New York Giants and the Washington Redskins (and that…including the NFLN…translated into 16.29 million viewers and a 6.0 rating/19 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data). “Sunday Night Football” on NBC remains a bigger draw.
Earlier in the evening on CBS was the Football Kick-Off Show at a second-place 5.6/10in the 8 p.m. half-hour.
There were three network series premiere late night: NBC sitcoms “Bad Judge” and “A To Z” opposite Fox limited drama “Gracepoint” from 9-10 p.m. While there is much more to the equation than the household overnights, these initial results give “Bad Judge” the advantage.
“Bad Judge,” starring former “Private Practice” lead Kate Walsh opened with a 4.4 rating/7 share in the household overnights (#3) at 9 p.m. On paper, this does not sound necessarily promising. But “Bad Judge” built from the 8:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “The Biggest Loser” (3.3/ 5) by 33 percent. And it bested the year-ago series-premiere of failed “Sean Saves the World” (3.7/ 6 on 10/.03/13) by 19 percent. So, consider this respectable sampling in a very tough time period. Let’s see what happens next week.
Relationship themed chuckler “A To Z,” starring Ben Feldman and Christin Milioti, launched with a 3.3/ 5 at 9:30 p.m., which also finished a distant third in the time period. Comparably, however, this was 13 percent below failed year-ago occupant “The Michael J. Fox Show” (3.8/ 6 on 10/03/13). And the retention out of “Bad Judge” was so-so at 75 percent (translation: a 25 percent drop). So, consider this sampling for “A To Z” disappointing.
Opposite the two NBC sitcoms, Fox’s “Gracepoint” opened at a disappointing 2.9/ 5 from 9-10 p.m., which dipped by 34 percent from the 8:30 p.m. portion of veteran lead-in “Bones” (4.4/ 7). Deteriorating “Glee” on the year-ago evening was slightly higher at a 3.1/ 5. There is much more to the equation for “Gracepoint” than the metered markets, no doubt. But to put this 2.9/ 5 into perspective, “Gotham” on Fox opened with a 5.7/ 9 in the overnights in the Monday 8 p.m. hour on Sept. 22, and “Red Band Society” was equal at a 2.9/ 5 for its launch in the Wednesday 9 p.m. hour on Sept. 17. That 2.9 overnight household rating for “Red Band Society” translated into 4.10 million viewers and a 1.3/ 4 among adults 18-49. That said, keep your expectations low for “Gracepoint” as the other data is released.
Earlier in the evening on NBC was diluted “The Biggest Loser” at a 3.2/ 5 (#4) from 8-9 p.m., which was still 25 percent above year-ago NBC sitcoms “Parks and Recreation” (2.5/ 4) and the series-premiere of short-lived “Welcome to the Family” (2.6/ 4). Competing “Bones” on Fox averaged a 4.3/ 7 (#3), which was eight percent above the 4.0/ 7 one week earlier.
“Parenthood” on NBC, meanwhile, closed the night with a quiet (and distant third-place) 2.9/ 5 from 10-11 p.m.
Over at ABC, the overnight news was clearly positive. Relocated “Grey’s Anatomy,” now in season 11, opened with a very competitive 6.6/11 from 8-9 p.m., which was just six percent below its 7.0/12 season-opener last Thursday and 10 percent below its 7.3/12 on the year-ago evening (on 10/03/13). “Scandal,” now at 9 p.m., rose to a 7.7/12 and also finished a comfortable second behind football on CBS. One year earlier, “Scandal” began its season with an almost identical 7.9/14 at 10 p.m. Moving up one hour has not hurt either “Grey’s Anatomy” or “Scandal,” and the stronger 8 p.m. anchor support is only lifting ABC.
While most new shows drop in the vicinity of 10 to 20 percent in week two, ABC’s “How To Get Away With Murder” dipped by just nine percent with an 8.7/15 at 10 p.m. (#2). Comparably, this built from the 9:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “Scandal” (7.9/12) by 10 percent. And “HTGAWM” was 10 percent above the aforementioned 7.9/14 in the overnights for year-ago occupant “Scandal.” Note to Shonda Rhimes: consider this a three-tier success!
The CW, which has taken a quiet early approach to the new television season, opened the new seasons of dramas “The Vampire Diaries” and “Reign” last night (which many of its viewers might not have been aware of). “The Vampire Diaries” kicked-off season six with a 1.6/ 3 in the household overnights at 8 p.m., which dropped from its year-ago season-premiere (2.0/ 3 on 10/03/13) by a disappointing 20 percent. Next was the sophomore season-premiere of “Reign” at a abysmal 0.9/ 1 at 9 p.m., which sunk from its year-ago series premiere (1.5/ 2 on 10/17/13) by a significant 40 percent. Lack of overall interest on The CW in recent weeks has hurt the network’s promotional platform, no doubt.
Source: Nielsen Media Research
Mixed Results for Trio of Series Openers
Thursday 10/02/14
Metered Market Results
Household
Rating/Share
CBS 8.2/14
ABC 7.7/12
Fox 3.6/ 6
NBC 3.3/ 5
CW 1.3/ 2
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-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Thursday 10/02/13:
ABC: +17, CBS: + 8, NBC: + 6, Fox: -12, CW: -28
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account additional benchmarks including the expected Live + Same Day demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.
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-Winners:
“Thursday Night Football” (CBS), “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC), “Scandal” (ABC), “How To Get Away With Murder” (ABC)
-Respectable Sampling:
“Bad Judge” (NBC)
-On the Downside:
“The Vampire Diaries” (CW)
-Losers:
“A To Z” (NBC), “Gracepoint” (Fox), “Reign” (CW), “Parenthood” (NBC)
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Ratings Breakdown:
The Minnesota Vikings at the Green Bay Packers on “Thursday Night Football” kept CBS in the Thursday overnight winner’s circle, with an approximate 8.5 rating/14 share in households from 8:30-11:30 p.m. ET. Comparably, this was an estimated seven percent below the week-ago match-up between the New York Giants and the Washington Redskins (and that…including the NFLN…translated into 16.29 million viewers and a 6.0 rating/19 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data). “Sunday Night Football” on NBC remains a bigger draw.
Earlier in the evening on CBS was the Football Kick-Off Show at a second-place 5.6/10in the 8 p.m. half-hour.
There were three network series premiere late night: NBC sitcoms “Bad Judge” and “A To Z” opposite Fox limited drama “Gracepoint” from 9-10 p.m. While there is much more to the equation than the household overnights, these initial results give “Bad Judge” the advantage.
“Bad Judge,” starring former “Private Practice” lead Kate Walsh opened with a 4.4 rating/7 share in the household overnights (#3) at 9 p.m. On paper, this does not sound necessarily promising. But “Bad Judge” built from the 8:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “The Biggest Loser” (3.3/ 5) by 33 percent. And it bested the year-ago series-premiere of failed “Sean Saves the World” (3.7/ 6 on 10/.03/13) by 19 percent. So, consider this respectable sampling in a very tough time period. Let’s see what happens next week.
Relationship themed chuckler “A To Z,” starring Ben Feldman and Christin Milioti, launched with a 3.3/ 5 at 9:30 p.m., which also finished a distant third in the time period. Comparably, however, this was 13 percent below failed year-ago occupant “The Michael J. Fox Show” (3.8/ 6 on 10/03/13). And the retention out of “Bad Judge” was so-so at 75 percent (translation: a 25 percent drop). So, consider this sampling for “A To Z” disappointing.
Opposite the two NBC sitcoms, Fox’s “Gracepoint” opened at a disappointing 2.9/ 5 from 9-10 p.m., which dipped by 34 percent from the 8:30 p.m. portion of veteran lead-in “Bones” (4.4/ 7). Deteriorating “Glee” on the year-ago evening was slightly higher at a 3.1/ 5. There is much more to the equation for “Gracepoint” than the metered markets, no doubt. But to put this 2.9/ 5 into perspective, “Gotham” on Fox opened with a 5.7/ 9 in the overnights in the Monday 8 p.m. hour on Sept. 22, and “Red Band Society” was equal at a 2.9/ 5 for its launch in the Wednesday 9 p.m. hour on Sept. 17. That 2.9 overnight household rating for “Red Band Society” translated into 4.10 million viewers and a 1.3/ 4 among adults 18-49. That said, keep your expectations low for “Gracepoint” as the other data is released.
Earlier in the evening on NBC was diluted “The Biggest Loser” at a 3.2/ 5 (#4) from 8-9 p.m., which was still 25 percent above year-ago NBC sitcoms “Parks and Recreation” (2.5/ 4) and the series-premiere of short-lived “Welcome to the Family” (2.6/ 4). Competing “Bones” on Fox averaged a 4.3/ 7 (#3), which was eight percent above the 4.0/ 7 one week earlier.
“Parenthood” on NBC, meanwhile, closed the night with a quiet (and distant third-place) 2.9/ 5 from 10-11 p.m.
Over at ABC, the overnight news was clearly positive. Relocated “Grey’s Anatomy,” now in season 11, opened with a very competitive 6.6/11 from 8-9 p.m., which was just six percent below its 7.0/12 season-opener last Thursday and 10 percent below its 7.3/12 on the year-ago evening (on 10/03/13). “Scandal,” now at 9 p.m., rose to a 7.7/12 and also finished a comfortable second behind football on CBS. One year earlier, “Scandal” began its season with an almost identical 7.9/14 at 10 p.m. Moving up one hour has not hurt either “Grey’s Anatomy” or “Scandal,” and the stronger 8 p.m. anchor support is only lifting ABC.
While most new shows drop in the vicinity of 10 to 20 percent in week two, ABC’s “How To Get Away With Murder” dipped by just nine percent with an 8.7/15 at 10 p.m. (#2). Comparably, this built from the 9:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “Scandal” (7.9/12) by 10 percent. And “HTGAWM” was 10 percent above the aforementioned 7.9/14 in the overnights for year-ago occupant “Scandal.” Note to Shonda Rhimes: consider this a three-tier success!
The CW, which has taken a quiet early approach to the new television season, opened the new seasons of dramas “The Vampire Diaries” and “Reign” last night (which many of its viewers might not have been aware of). “The Vampire Diaries” kicked-off season six with a 1.6/ 3 in the household overnights at 8 p.m., which dropped from its year-ago season-premiere (2.0/ 3 on 10/03/13) by a disappointing 20 percent. Next was the sophomore season-premiere of “Reign” at a abysmal 0.9/ 1 at 9 p.m., which sunk from its year-ago series premiere (1.5/ 2 on 10/17/13) by a significant 40 percent. Lack of overall interest on The CW in recent weeks has hurt the network’s promotional platform, no doubt.
Source: Nielsen Media Research
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Next, if available, we will post the Top 25 Market 18-49 Ratings to give you a rough idea of the ratings to following.
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It hurts me so much to see A to Z in the losers. Surprised that Bad Judge had a decent sampling.
ReplyDeleteTGIT appears to continue to dominate!!
ReplyDeleteWow glad to see ABC dominating Thursday.
ReplyDeleteVampire Dairies should just announce this as a final season.
Nice for HTGAWM, out of interest do CW fans crowd the comments on this site like they do over on TVBTN?
ReplyDeleteAnd it seems HTGAWM is a solid winner for ABC. Congrats, Shonda!
ReplyDeleteThe Kate Walsh effect :-)
ReplyDeleteThursdays belong to Shonda Rhimes, people!!! Bad, bad, bad for CW!!!!
ReplyDelete:(((( Reign and TVD!!!!!!!!!! I'm crying over here..
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad all of these shows are doing so good! I love everything Shonda puts out. I'm still sad "Off The Maps" did so bad and was cancelled after S1
ReplyDeleteI agree about switching A to Z and Bud Judge. Bad Judge is pretty mediocre, while A to Z is really good.
ReplyDeleteTVD is over; they've messed up with the show. Just a miracle can save this. And I'm not just talking about ratings but mainly the story, that is terrible at this point.
ReplyDeletePoor CW :(
ReplyDeletei know i wanted to give S6 a shot and watch it until Episode 5 or 6 to see if it's gotten better than S5, but i was really disappointed and i don't know if i watch it next week... Especially as my Thursdays are so packed with a lot of other shows i like
ReplyDeleteI used to watch Grey's; my sister looooves it. I've just started to watch Scandal and it's wonderful. And HTGAWM is terrific, my favorite show of this season so far. Shonda is killing it.
ReplyDeleteTGIT hit it bad.
ReplyDeleteTNF has been saddled by blowouts this season. Imagine if they actually had a competitive game. TGIT is doing well. Murder no doubt is being helped by weak Parenthood and no Elementary. (Plus it's actually good!)
ReplyDeleteI know what you mean. And the show used to be soooooo good!!! Julie Plec had just screwed it up.
ReplyDeleteJust as much as 'Oncers' do,
ReplyDeleteany early market numbers?
ReplyDeleteA to Z and Gracepoint Flop
Bad Judge will flop more in the coming weeks
Poor A to Z. :(
ReplyDeleteOn the bright side, TGIT continues to dominate.
ReplyDeleteSo no then.
ReplyDeleteI agree
ReplyDeleteWouldn't it have been better for NBC to put A to Z with Marry Me or About a Boy on Tuesdays, and hold one of the three until midseason? It seems like a tonal mismatch with Bad Judge. TBL seems like a solid utility player, yet again, as it is down for itself but up for NBC in that slot. I just wonder if/when TB goes to Thursdays, does TBL stay there?
ReplyDeleteABC should be proud. Enough said.
As far as Fox...sheesh, nothing's going right for it this season, outside of Mondays. Maybe Gracepoint could build an audience as the season goes on, but then, it's only, what, 10 episodes?
Also, sorry if this is a dumb question, but why does it really matter what the combined total for the football games are? CBS isn't getting ad dollars for what happens on the NFL network, is it?
I expected Gracepoint to have low ratings so no big surprise there.
ReplyDeleteI'm happy for HTGAWM, last night's episode was terrific. And soooo sad forReign, I really liked it.
Note to CW: Remeber to promote your shows.
Spoiler Alert to ABC: Secrets and Lies will not be your next hit.
No poor writing did ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Arrow and The Flash will save it.
usually, there tends to be a lot of whining about how 'terrible' a show has gotten and how they should just announce it as the last season already.
ReplyDeleteVD was a let down last night. No big bad introduced, lotta tears, everyone scattered. I guess the "other side" is gonna be a season long thing. Did like the vampire pancakes though!
ReplyDeleteAll the CW has done for the past two months is promote TVD and The Flash though.
ReplyDeleteIt would have been great if they put Marry Me and A to Z together, as they are both relationship comedies. About A Boy and Bad Judge don't really go with them.
ReplyDeleteTVD and TO got a lot of promotion, while both Reign and The 100 didn't. The 100 is going to premiere in two weeks, and there's just a clip, not even a trailer.
ReplyDeleteI haven't watched it, but isn't AAB similar to those--not a romcom, but a little more relationship-ey than other shows? Or is it more family oriented?
ReplyDeleteAh, I just wanted to know so I can be prepared for the sudden high number of comments...I'll never forget last season when BATB was renewed...
ReplyDeletefamily oriented for sure
ReplyDeleteTotally agree. About a Boy would've done okay in the Thursday slot following by Bad Judge. Also, Marry Me and A to Z have similar themes and they would've paired up well together. I found A to Z to be way better than Bad Judge. I tried so hard to sit through Bad Judge but there were not many funny moments.
ReplyDeleteWell Arrow did rise from its season premiere last year. Just tryin' to be optimistic.
ReplyDeleteI agree, I am not liking the fact that The CW isn't promoting The 100. I kind of feel that show could be their Scandal (as in solid base audience to begin with but exploding later on). They need to groom it though. And premiering it so close to the World Series will hurt, as Arrow historically hits lows on those nights (as did Supernatural and TTP)
ReplyDeleteYeah, I was mostly talking about Reign. I like TVD but if it ended this season I would be ok with it, so no big deal.
ReplyDeleteI'm so happy for HTGAWM!!!!
ReplyDeleteReign wasn't soo bad - not great either, but somewhere in the middle !
As fot TVD - expected - i mean a lot of people(including me )are bored with this show. For me they managed to destroy Elena's character and the story lines........ let say they are much more interesting shows right now!! (i respect what other people think, but this is my opinion:)
So did TVD actually. It premiered with a 1.2 but episodes 3,4,6,7 and 8 all pulled a 1.3
ReplyDeleteIt I haven't watched it either, but it seems family oriented.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I think so too!!
ReplyDeleteI say it's more family oriented. I love the show but I can see why people say it doesn't fit in with Marry Me.
ReplyDeleteMaybe NBC wants to put it's most potential comedy and last year's #1 Comedy together on Tuesdays to have a guaranteed win but I think A to Z would retain well had it been paired up with Marry Me. This reminds me of when Trophy Wife was mistreated.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I usually whine that Supernatural doesn't get enough promotion on The CW, even I have to admit that the lack of promo for The 100 is appalling!
ReplyDeleteA to Z and Bad Judge were horrible
ReplyDeleteWell maybe they should have promoted more Reign and The 100 - because TVD is already a let down and maybe TO will go there to. But he have to wait and see!
ReplyDeleteYay for shonda thursdays! don´t sorry to see tvd down but it´s probably gonna stay around 0.8 during the fall so it´s not an a complete disaster, sorry about a to z praying that many people saw the released pilot online and will tune in next week.
ReplyDeleteA to Z was pretty good, Bad Judge was pretty mediocre.
ReplyDeleteI thought both really unfunny
ReplyDeleteI really hope A to Z pick up next week. I watched the second episode today and loved it. I hope it doesn't get canceled.
ReplyDeleteI really hope that means Bones went up in demos.
ReplyDeleteI think Bad Judge and About a Boy don't fit together at all personally, I don't like that pairing.
ReplyDeleteThat was a dark day for us all haha.
ReplyDeleteHa.
ReplyDeleteWhile Trophy Wife should have probably gotten a chance after Modern Family, a pairing with The Goldbergs wasn't something horrible either. People vastly exaggerate the whole "mistreated" thing. The Goldbergs was also in a very tough situation and was able to prove itself and get moved to Wednesdays as a result this year. Trophy WIfe was pulling sub 1.0 levels when the goldbergs was in the mid 1s, that's a big difference. And it happened some nights when Shield was a repeat, so lead-in isn't the answer. I really liked the Trophy Wife pilot (stopped watching afterwards due to ratings) and I wish it could have been saved, but people act like it was placed after Super Fun Night or something. If you want mistreated talk Enlisted for instance.
ReplyDeleteWatching the new VD was like i was watching a different show
ReplyDeleteIt should.
ReplyDeleteReign R.I.P. 2013-2015
ReplyDeleteNBC's comedy development is kind of...all over the place. It does the off kilter shows really, really well, yet it struggles to get people to watch them. It has single cam shows that, regardless of content, are a little more soapy than many might like. It also has no really comedy anchor, something to build a night around, plus lots of holdovers. And it's ordered a bunch of shows for only a few episodes.
ReplyDeleteUnless something is a clear winner this season, it might be time to cancel everything and start over next season. They are kind of, sort of at that point already, however.
But really, unless there's a clear ratings winner and/or something critically acclaimed, I can see them simply cleaning house and making launch just one or two new comedies in the fall. Maybe one hour of comedy in total, perhaps.
You'd think it would. Last night was a big episode, wrapping up storylines and the big emotional character arc. This week should do well. It will be interesting to see if the shakeup gamble pays off in the coming weeks.
ReplyDeleteYeah...I get that it's a brutal business, and that when the industry is changing so quickly you can't necessarily take chances, but man, a big part of the battle is finding quality shows. I never watched any mentioned above, but I'll believe others when they say they are good. I kind of wish the networks had renewed and tried to relaunch. Put Enisted after Idol, or something, which even though it is down still gets a decent audience.
ReplyDeleteViewers are clearly not into rom coms. Pretty surprised to see the ratings for Bad Judge. I guess NBC must have promoted it well. It was pretty baaaaaaad. People probably tuned in for Kate Walsh. Then again, never underestimate people's taste in TV.
ReplyDeleteA to Z was the better pilot here.
TTP had to be renewed not reign :(
ReplyDeleteHow'd you get the second episode already?
ReplyDeletedid not like either and I am loved Kate Walsh from greys
ReplyDeleteScreener.
ReplyDeleteOne of the early trailers for the show had her befriending a young boy and showing a softer side. That at least works with About a Boy.
ReplyDeleteDamn, I am going to be so bumped if A to Z gets pulled.
ReplyDeleteAlso, which is the correct HH rating for Bones, 4.3/7 or 4.4/7? He has both listed.
ReplyDeleteThey pretty much cut the boy from the show. He was supposed to be a regular originally, but now he's only ma guest in the pilot.
ReplyDeleteThe Second half hour is 4.4, it averaged 4.3 for both half hours.
ReplyDeletethey should paired with marry me
ReplyDeleteOh, okay. Thanks. :)
ReplyDeleteI don't think Enlisted after Idol would have worked any better than it did for Surviving Jack. IMO, they should have simply done Brooklyn Nine-Nine/Enlisted the entire year and probably air both after the Superbowl to get the male exposure.
ReplyDeleteYou're right, my friend. At least Trophy Wife wasn't dumped like Enlisted was. Honestly, Enlisted would've done WAY BETTER on Tuesdays after Dads ended its run. Glee would've done the same ratings as Enlisted on Fridays but Enlisted would've done WAY BETTER than Glee.
ReplyDeleteAgree!
ReplyDeleteA to Z and Gracepoint bombed.
ReplyDeletePretty said about that.
ReplyDeleteGrace probably bombed worse since comedy have very young audiences vs dramas
ReplyDeleteI would predict a 3.5 for Scandal & Murder, but I'm not that good in predicting ratings.. Hopefully their ratings are even better :D
ReplyDeleteOnly 10 minutes or so till we get the prelims.
ReplyDeleteAll hail queen Shonda!
ReplyDeleteIf they pull Gracepoint I will be very mad , especially as I have already spent several hours watching the first seven.
ReplyDeleteA dark day? Lol, it was hilarious! I for one had a blast
ReplyDeletewhen is Gracepoint done shooting btw?
ReplyDeleteReally hoping they finish of shooting the season at least, with that show I could easily imagine a british station buying the rights to air it when Broadchurch is on hiatus. So we might get to see the whole thing despite being canned.
Same here, lol.
ReplyDeleteNo idea, FOX sent out the screener for the first 7 episodes like month ago, I think it could be done shooting the remaining 3 by now.
ReplyDeleteI'm happy that someone did lol.
ReplyDeleteGracepoint: 1.2/4.8M
ReplyDeleteWell well, theCW SHOULD have started its promo campaign earlier and heavier! Not only relying on social media buzz
ReplyDeleteas much as I like theCW I'm afraid that most of it's shows that don't air on tuesday or wednesday are going to underperform.
- Jane the Virgin hasn't been graced with much to any buzz and isn't really a genre usual CW watchers are into
- The Originals performed below expectations last season, has been shoved to monday (theCWs weakest night) and has recieved little promotion
- Reign well...is Reign
- TVD has performed worse and worse as the last season went on
Arrow, The Flash, The 100 and Supernatural look to be safe since the network is pretty much playing it safe with them due to the GIGANTIC promo campaign that is The Flash
1.2 for Gracepoint, ouch.
ReplyDeleteA to Z,, 1.2
ReplyDeletebad Judge, 1.3
come on, listening to BatB fans rample about their show being so good that it outlasted others was pretty hilarious.
ReplyDeleteEspecially since we all pretty much know that 3 is their final season (shortened, fall)
1.2 for A to Z hurts me so so much.
ReplyDelete3.2 for HTGAWM.
ReplyDeleteHTGAWM: 3.2 and 11.8.
ReplyDeleteHmmm. AH and AD! are suddenly looking pretty good. Wow, FOX is a complete mess. They can always renew Bones for five more seasons - it will outlast everything.
ReplyDeleteMuder at 3.2! Awesomeee!
ReplyDeleteQuite a drop.
ReplyDeleteScandal at a 3.3.
ReplyDeletethat's a really big drop though
ReplyDeleteGrey's: 2.6.
ReplyDeletethem already having 7 episodes at their disposal is pretty odd, seems like they don't have a normal filming schedule. I might have to do some reading but what are the chances that they're filming on a movie schedule (location after location, out of order) instead on a TV schedule (episode after episode)
ReplyDeleteAw man I expected a good ratings for this show. Fox is imploding
ReplyDeleteDon't know why, but i THINK Scandal/HTGAWM may be adjusted up two tenths.
ReplyDeleteI am hoping so.
ReplyDeleteIt was bound to happen, I am not worried at all. Most new shows fall around this and considering its lead-in fell about the same and that this was a particular hyped premiere 18% is a pretty normal drop I think.
ReplyDeleteat least one role David Boreanaz will never get to old for I suppose :/
ReplyDeleteStill....I want him to play Angel at least one more time >.<
Take abc with a grain of salt
ReplyDeleteThey end up adjusting big time in the finals
....and JtV!!!! I'm getting 'morning sickness' from all the freaking JtV commercials. And ZERO promos for SPN last night during either show. Reign started promising enough, despite the ratings but IMO TVD was a snoozefest. zzzzzz
ReplyDeleteSeeing all the ABC adjustment, I don't doubt that.
ReplyDeleteIt's a 10 pm show plus it will be adjusted up and all new shows drop 10-20 percent
ReplyDeleteWow, At how low artigo came back: 0.4
ReplyDeleteTVD: 0.9
well they hyped the shyte out of Flash, there's no way the show is going to underpeform.
ReplyDeleteArrow, per extantion, (as well as the Flashs lead out) are bound to profit from this as well.
mondays, thursdays and fridays have pulled the worst card this year, these shows went with a complete lack of promotion and are bound to fail this season
0.4 for Reign. That show is BATB 2.0.
ReplyDeleteGracepoint got a series order back in January, so the started shooting early.
ReplyDelete3...2...1...Reign fans raining down on ya :P
ReplyDeleteI'm still confused how the show got renewed
I am going to have fun with this comment on TVBTN, lol
ReplyDeleteI m gonna come out and say that cw jumped the gun in renewal for reign.courtesy of cw/wb politics
ReplyDeleteCool, so you wanna start promoting The 100 now CW, thanks :) Seriously though, they need to start promoting it asap...
ReplyDeletethat explains it, good on them though, if canned they can still offer it to overseas markets.
ReplyDeleteDavid Tennant is pretty big with the brits, I could see itv or (ironically) the BBC getting a hold of Gracepoint.
PBS might be a solid contender for a US alternative
Lol, I can't wait to see that!
ReplyDeleteAgreed.
ReplyDeleteI think is quite the drop, tbh. But ABC must be thrilled at The numbers, regardless!
ReplyDeleteWow that's pretty sad for Reign. And now I am super into the show. Damn it.
ReplyDeleteAgreed!
ReplyDeleteI know! I love the show. Gonna enjoy it as it lasts, though. :(
ReplyDeleteMegan Follows is delicious in her role.
Yep, they fixed one of their death slots, now only need something for Tuesday at 10. Forever is not doing a good job at all.
ReplyDeleteI expected the renewal at last min but if I recall my memory they renewed a long time ago
ReplyDeleteSame here :(
ReplyDeleteearly renewal along with TO/TVD/SPN/Arrow
ReplyDeleteawesome news Scandal 3.3 HTGAWM 3.2
ReplyDeleteI would say again that it doesn't deserve an early renewal, but I've discussed that plenty of times last season.
ReplyDeleteForever is at least doubling up on last year's occupant. I wouldn't yank Forever juts yet. It could pull a Chicago Fire during fall. And I am pretty sure the 8pm hour will become a bigger problem anyway
ReplyDeleteIsn't David getting tired of the show, tho?
ReplyDeletelast years promotional focus was all on Reign as theCWs new "hit drama", I get why they didn't can it.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure there was some penalty attatched to the show, huge marketing budget, giant budget overall. Cancelling it after one season might have saved them money but it would have taken a lot of their credibility.
Selling something as your new 'drama sensation' to the public to then end it after just one season?
They even gave it an additional script order before it even premiered (wich is usually a clear sign of a backorder)
S that was a surprise
ReplyDeletewe all have, I don't think that there is anyone who isn't surprised with this decision. Even some Reign fans were caught off guard by that
ReplyDeleteHit drama ?? Wow then I must have missed something .
ReplyDeleteHere are the 1/2hr breakdowns
ReplyDelete8:00 p.m.
ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 8.98 million (#2), A18-49: 2.5/ 9 (#2)
CBS – NFL Thursday Night Kick-Off
Viewers: 10.02 million (#1), A18-49: 2.8/10 (#1)
NBC – The Biggest Loser
Viewers: 4.58 million (#4), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#4)
Fox – Bones
Viewers: 6.21 million (#3), A18-49: 1.5/ 5 (#3)
CW – The Vampire Diaries (season premiere)
Viewers: 1.89 million (#5), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#5)
———-
8:30 p.m.
ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 9.16 million (#2), A18-49: 2.6/ 8 (#2)
CBS – Thursday Night Football (Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers)
Viewers: 13.72 million (#1), A18-49: 4.3/13 (#1)
NBC – The Biggest Loser
Viewers: 4.86 million (#4), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)
Fox – Bones
Viewers: 6.40 million (#3), A18-49: 1.5/ 5 (#3)
CW – The Vampire Diaries (season premiere)
Viewers: 1.68 million (#5), A18-49: 0.8/ 3 (#5)
———-
9:00 p.m.
ABC – Scandal
Viewers: 10.38 million (#2), A18-49: 3.3/10 (#2)
CBS – Thursday Night Football (Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers)
Viewers: 14.67 million (#1), A18-49: 4.8/14 (#1)
NBC – Bad Judge (series premiere)
Viewers: 5.86 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#3)
Fox – Gracepoint (series premiere)
Viewers: 4.85 million (#4), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#4)
CW – Reign (season premiere)
Viewers: 1.07 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)
———-
9:30 p.m.
ABC – Scandal
Viewers: 10.44 million (#2), A18-49: 3.2/ 9 (#2)
CBS – Thursday Night Football (Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers)
Viewers: 13.89 million (#1), A18-49: 5.0/14 (#1)
NBC – A To Z (series premiere)
Viewers: 4.81 million (#4), A18-49: 1.2/ 3 (#3t)
Fox – Gracepoint (series premiere)
Viewers: 4.82 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 2 (#3t)
CW – Reign (season premiere)
Viewers: 1.04 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)
———-
10:00 p.m.
ABC – How to Get Away With Murder
Viewers: 11.98 million (#1), A18-49: 3.3/10 (#2)
CBS – Thursday Night Football (Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers)
Viewers: 11.83 million (#2), A18-49: 4.3/13 (#1)
NBC – Parenthood
Viewers: 4.50 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#3)
———
10:30 p.m.
ABC – How to Get Away With Murder
Viewers: 1.54 million (#1), A18-49: 3.1/10 (#2)
CBS – Thursday Night Football (Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers)
Viewers: 10.26 million (#2), A18-49: 3.8/12 (#1)
NBC – Parenthood
Viewers: 4.23 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#3)
Could've been worse for TVD, i'm surprised it started as high as it did.
ReplyDeleteYeesh, I made a prediction on TVBTN the other day about CW shows and said Reign would get multiple .4's this year. I honestly didn't think it would happen this early though. Maybe it will adjust. Lots of stuff down. NBC thursday comedy night....it's never going to happen.
ReplyDeleteDo u think there is a chance for them to go back up in next month???
ReplyDeleteHoping for a miracle for A to Z, here.
ReplyDeleteSurprised that the demo looks like it dropped - not by much, but with all the promotion after the shock ending last week, I expected to see a lift. I'm really surprised. Huh.
ReplyDeleteHighly unlikely
ReplyDeleteHighly unlikely.
ReplyDeleteMaybe not. I just meant that Fox had options to try to get the show more exposure, as other networks did with other shows.. I get why it didn't do that, but it also has a lot of room on its schedule despite programming less than the other big networks. It also needs new programming and some well reviewed shows at that.
ReplyDeleteI just wish it had tried to do more, however it did it.
Yep, I know. I've already fallen for this show :(
ReplyDeleteBut how TVD got below 2 mil with 1.6 overnights? Isn't it usually over 2 mil ? Anyway, very sad. And disastrous for the Reign. Now I really worry about next week SPN premiere and The 100 later on. Those 2 were barely promoted to open with descent number. At least there is still time for the 100
ReplyDeleteCurious to see how much the new comedies on NBC drop. It has plenty in store, but does it simply want to cut its losses early this year?
ReplyDeleteWinners: Grey's Anatomy, Scandal, How to Get Away with Murder, Bones
ReplyDeleteOK: The Biggest Looser
Disappointing: The Vampire Diaries
Losers: Gracepoint, A to Z, Bad Judge, Reign
The CW confuses all together. They promote the crap out of Reign and TVD. I don't see half as much for Arrow/TO/SPN. They do 0 promotion for The 100 and over promote The Flash. Reign and BaTB just took a spot away from potential. They should never have been renewed and BaTB should never have gotten a second season.
ReplyDeleteAs usual, NBC's schedule is the most fascinating to me. It's got a lot of work to do in order to rebuild its schedule, particularly with comedy, but still has some holdovers, like SVU, that might not be able to part with just yet.
ReplyDeleteSeriously with this much controversy in tvd and they still pull up 0.9 . Sometimes controversies does pay off
ReplyDeleteFox wouldn't pull a 10 part series would they? At least Gracepoint didnt lose many viewers in its second half hour. (4.85m - 4.82m)
ReplyDeleteGreat for Grey's Anatomy , 11 Seasons and still doing well! How to get away with Murder is also doing well , which I am pleased as its my favorite new show already!
I expect adjustments from ABC later as everything else this week has gone up.
totally agreed, Arrow got two posters, The Originals promo campaign started EXTREMELY late (especially due to being shoved on a monday).
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile Reign/TVD/Flash are treated like...well....
3 Shonda shows all on one night= A bunch of other shows on that night that are DOA.
ReplyDeleteMe, too, I'm waiting for Brandy to sputter her "The CW has never cancelled a show that received a full season 2 order" spiel. And I like Reign.
ReplyDeleteSeriously cw ratings thing is the best controversial thing happening in ratings wise
ReplyDeleteIIRC Reign was also included in the early renewals and many of us - even us Reign fans - said 'Huh'.
ReplyDeleteI saw an arrow poster with Roy photo shopped horribly come on cw .
ReplyDeletedon't know, it's a safe source of income. If I was an actor his age I would try to milk it as long as I could.
ReplyDeleteWith their solid numbers he could possibly push in a raise as well.
Knowing the risk that comes with this business I'd say he (any many others would as well) will play it safe.
Not everyone can be Ryan Hansen (who has had a INCREDIBLE amount of one off shows now, Bad Judge being this years contender)
I would love him to reunite with Alysson Hannigan, James Marsters and SMG for one more Buffy themed piece of media but with Bones in the way :/
I enjoyed fighting it out with Brady last season, lol
ReplyDeleteDon't forget she will bash The 100 and say it will get canceled despite doing better than Reign last season because Life Unexpected and Carrie Diaries got canceled after the second season.
ReplyDeleteI doubt FOX pulls Gracepoint. They might burn it during Christmas or so if the plan wasn't already to end it before holidays, but I doubt it doesn't get aired. They have enough problems to deal with.
ReplyDeleteoh yes, that poster caused some controversy as well with the weird a** shipper base
ReplyDeleteNot only that, the promo poster's I've seen for SPN are photo's that are at least 3-4 years old, just photoshopped to add Mark Shepherd and Misha Collins. It's ridiculous. The 100 is one of the better quality drama's with potential out there and they're going to lose that potential and blame it on ratings. Keeping my fingers crossed for The 100/Arrow/SPN - I've seen so much promotion for The Flash, I'm sick of it already.
ReplyDeleteWell TVD did up from it's last year's premiere of 1.2 to 1.3 in week 3 - I think - but Reign never went above it's series premiere of 0.8. Doesn't mean that both shows won't be adjusted up in the today's finals.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe they don't promote The 100 more. The video of first 3 minutes of the premiere got 60K views in one day while most CW promos get around 3 K views in one day.
ReplyDeleteNot to be funny but Roy has a shipper fandom?
ReplyDeletelol no people were mad because Laurel was beside Oliver
ReplyDeleteIt will end before the holidays if they stick to the original plan.
ReplyDeleteWow really, that kinda makes me feel better about it's ratings when it returns even though it really shouldn't :P
ReplyDeleteI know right?
ReplyDeleteReign, TVD and Flash got promoted heavily so early
meanwhile TO started its campaign last week, SPN got ONE sh*tty poster, Arrow two terrible posters and The 100 nothing
They call every new show "a hit" even if it's not-Emily Oownens even a couple years ago
ReplyDeleteSame here. Since the show started my attitude has been "I'll enjoy it while it lasts."
ReplyDeleteDouble agree. Like both shows but TTP had the potential for more exciting storyarcs than Reign.
ReplyDeleteit wasn't renewed early in favor of CBS/WB politics..It was renewed early cause it did well online,internationally,Had network support, & was stable rated compared to TTP,has critical praise!did well in dvr
ReplyDeleteBones :( It's HH rating gave me hope that it did better than that. Hopefully it will adjust up, though.
ReplyDeleteI love football and the Packers in particular, so I was watching the game last night. That said, even though CBS has NFL Thursday, it doesn't give ABC or NBC any competition. It's either sports/genre/soapy drama. I wonder what Thursday's would look like if CBS scheduled competitive shows.
ReplyDeleteTVBTN still hasn't posted the ratings
ReplyDeleteI can't for the comments and all the fan excuse bingo.
ReplyDeleteWaiting for cancellation bear to say his thoughts .
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting for that.
ReplyDeleteNah, probably not. Aside from the fact that it'd have to get a .2 before it'd do far worse than anything else, I'd bet they are slightly reluctant to alienate creative types by constantly pulling shows like that.
ReplyDelete"but Reign has critical acclaim"
ReplyDelete"no one watched it because TVD was so terrible"
those are the only ones I could come up with
On which show? I need to get back into reading TVBTN on a regular basis, It is fall and I love following the Cancel Bear.
ReplyDeleteBTW, OUAT rose to 4.6 in Live+3.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to see the fan campaigns. Some of the BATB and Starcrossed one's were hilarious.
ReplyDeleteBoth were low rated. Reign got renewed because of network politics and because it's a CBS show.
ReplyDeleteI keep refreshing it lol, it'll be like one big hater reunion!
ReplyDeleteAgreed, especially if it holds up with delayed viewings, which could indicate audiences are sticking around, even if it's not a priority.
ReplyDeleteNot anymore for female fav shows with all new shows in abc
ReplyDeleteReign fans defending the show's ratings by blaming TVD.
ReplyDeleteI'm seeing a lot of "They should have started with the coronation" on my twitter feed.
ReplyDelete#SaveStarcrossed #RenewTTP lol...memories...
ReplyDeleteI keep checking every new tweet I get in my feed but nothing so far.
ReplyDeleteThey haven't-BatB,GG,HoD,Arrow,90210,Nikita,VD.Heck, Nikita was doing 0.4s and VbatB getting 0.3s at the end of season two yet they weren't cancelled.
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