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Ratings News - 24th October 2014

24 Oct 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

Top 25 Markets - 18-49
If we get access to any early Top 25 Markets numbers we will post them here.

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

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Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Thursday Ratings

Thursday 10/23/14
Metered Market Results

Household
Rating/Share
CBS 10.6/17
ABC 7.2/12
NBC 2.8/ 4
Fox 2.5/ 4
CW 1.2/ 2

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-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Thursday 10/24/13:
CBS: +56, ABC: +38, NBC: – 7, CW: -25, Fox: -73
Note: Fox featured game two of The World Series (St. Louis vs. Boston) on the year-ago evening.

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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. These overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account additional benchmarks including the expected Live + Same Day demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

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-Winners:
“Thursday Night Football” (CBS), “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC), “Scandal” (ABC), “How To Get Away With Murder” (ABC)

-Fading:
“The Biggest Loser” (NBC), “The Vampire Diaries” (CW)

-Losers:
“Bad Judge” (NBC), “A To Z” (NBC), “Gracepoint” (Fox), “Reign” (CW)

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Ratings Breakdown:
The San Diego Chargers vs. the Denver Broncos lifted “Thursday Night Football” on CBS to an above average 11.4 rating/19 share in the household overnights from 8:30-11:30 p.m. (peaking in the 9 p.m. half-hour at an 11.8/19). Comparably, this is 20 percent above the 9.5/16 in the overnights one week earlier for the New York Jets at the New England Patriots (and that translated – with coverage on the NFLN — into 16.09 million viewers and a 5.4 rating/17 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data).

Earlier in the evening on CBS was the NFL Kick-off at a 6.4/11 (#2) in the 8 p.m. half-hour. As a reminder, results for any live sporting event are approximate.

Next Thursday, “The Big Bang Theory” on CBS returns to the 8 p.m. half-hour, followed by the season-premieres of relocated “Mom” and the final season of “Two and a Half Men” from 8:30-9:30 p.m. Next will be the series-premiere of sitcom “The McCarthys” at 9:30 p.m., followed by the season-premiere of drama “Elementary” at 10 p.m.

Despite the stronger football presence, ABC was on par from one week earlier with its solid combination of Shonda Rhimes dramas “Grey’s Anatomy” (#2: 6.7/11), “Scandal” (#2: 7.4/12) and recently introduced “How To Get Away With Murder” (#2: 7.4/13), which was 12 percent above former Thursday 10 p.m. occupant “Scandal” on the year-ago evening (6.6/11 on 10/24/13). Relocated “Grey’s Anatomy,” meanwhile, was 148 percent above failed year-ago occupant “Once Upon a Time in Wonderland” (2.7/ 4 on 10/24/13). In other words, ABC is poised for the largest improvement with regularly scheduled programming on Thursday this season.

NBC, which was flat from one week earlier, finished in the distant No. 3 spot with its line-up of “The Biggest Loser” (#3t, 2.8/ 4), sitcoms “Bad Judge” (#3: 3.1/ 5) and “A To Z” (#3t, 2.2/ 3) and the final season of “Parenthood” (#3: 2.7/ 4). While the arrival of “The Blacklist” to the Thursday 9 p.m. hour in February will surely ignite interest, as it stands NBC just cannot compete on Thursday.

In episode four news, Fox crime drama “Gracepoint” scored a 2.2/ 3 at 9 p.m. (#4), which was flat from one week earlier despite airing out of a repeat of “Bones” (#3t, 2.8/ 4 at 8 p.m.). But that 2.2 rating translated into only 3.70 million viewers and a 0.8 rating/2 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data.

On The CW, veteran “The Vampire Diaries” remains on the downside this season, with a 1.5/ 2 in the overnights at 8 p.m. (#5) off by 17 percent from the 1.8/ 3 on the year-ago evening. And it let into a mere 0.9/ 1 for sophomore “Reign” at 9 p.m., which slipped by 36 percent year-to-year.

Source: Nielsen Media Research


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139 comments:

  1. Nothing out of the ordinary, seems like a normal Thursday to me. It will be interesting to see how next week is gonna look with the return of the CBS line-up.

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  2. I don't think it will have a small impact on ABC but big impact on NBC comedies

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  3. I'm getting tired of writing that it's a big shame Reign is performing so bad. But let's wait for the demos.

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  4. Good job for TGIT!!! I wonder whats gonna happen next week when Greys goes against Big Bang, Scandal against 2 1/2 Men and HTGAWM against Elementary. I hope that ABC affects CBS and not the opposite. I hope Bad Judge stayed at a 1.2 or grew to 1.3. TVD and especially Reign are clearly failing badly.

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  5. Greys is not new next week, a Charlie Brown special will be the lead in for
    Scandal and HTGAWM

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  6. How can it have a big impact on NBC if the comedies are small enough already?

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  7. I think the comedies on NBC will go below 1s

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  8. LOL. Everybody that watches Charlie Brown will turn the channel right when Scandal comes on. ABC hopes it can self start.

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  9. I think it could go either way. ABC skews very female with Greys, while I believe Big Bang skews more male (correct me if I'm wrong). However, Mom also skews female so it might impact GA a bit. The NBC comedies already have low ratings so I'm not sure if they will fall much further.

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  10. I hope in good news for Reign. Last episode was heartbreaking but it was a really good one.

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  11. A to Z yes, Bad Judge ehhhhhh don't know. Its been steady so far against football and thats bigger competition than the CBS comedies.

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  12. I don't think Scandal will take a big hit but I don't know the reason for not show greys

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  13. will Greys is not new week

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  14. Banged by Corey Stoll24 October 2014 at 14:30

    Bad Judge needed the post-Voice spot ...

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  15. Grey's will be fine when it returns, maybe a small drop. Also TBBT is only 30 mins.

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  16. I think Grey's is not new next week in the fear that TBBT's premiere on Thursday scores higher than it has been doing on Monday.

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  17. @Edward, have we got any top 25 markets?

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  18. possibly - It will be interesting to see if TBBT ratings rebound, but I feel this season has been really meh

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  19. I think CBS will win the 8 p.m. hour but the rest of the night is ABC's.

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  20. Edward emails them to me. If we get them I will post them as indicated in the post.

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  21. agree but I don't think it will impact Grey's too much- Grey's has a solid fan base and we have no idea how TBBT will do

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  22. I'm TBBT will do in the mid-high 4's vicinity as always does.


    The rest of the line-up, however, is a gamble.

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  23. Will wait eagerly.

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  24. At least The 100 won't be the lowest rated this week on CW.

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  25. I think mid 4s to but wasn't it doing 5s last year?

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  26. It was. I don't know if it will do it's old numbers on Thursday. Seems unlikely but that's me.

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  27. I think it has peaked too

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  28. It depends if CBS promotes well the move.

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  29. I don't really watch CBS so I have no idea

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  30. I watch some CBS' shows but my favorites shows are mostly on ABC so I want them to win.

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  31. Prediction for Scandal, based on HH (as faulty as that might be)?

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  32. It should be on par I think from last week
    (It should be up a tenth or two in demos after last week cliffhanger)

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  33. Nothing out of the ordinary, really.

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  34. Hope so. I want Scandal back on 3's.

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  35. I hope both it and HTGAWM are back in the 3's.

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  36. same but I mean the highest drama on broadcast this week was a 2.4 I am sure Scandal will be way above that

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  37. You think?
    I've wondered if TBBT will be hurt by the move to Mondays. But then, to me at least, the bigger issue is the quality of the episodes this season. It's been a while since I've caught up with new episodes--I just watch them in repeats when I can--but I was surprised at how weak they've been this season.

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  38. I think Grey's will also be up from a 2.4. Probably 2.5-2.6 (although posting a 2.4 in the 8 p.m. hour is quite good for such an old drama)

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  39. If BJ managed to get an order for a back nine, where would it go on the schedule?
    Some here have said that NBC could put the Heroes reboot on at 8:00. That makes sense, and in general, there just aren't that many slots available.

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  40. The good thing about greys it has a big dvr base (I think it reaches 4+ in dvr numbers) They also tend to go up with big events (I think this season will see a event similar to the shooting or plane crash)

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  41. The Big Bang Theory has a 53% female skew, meaning that 53% of its audience are females. That's close enough to a male skew considering the number of shows that effectively skew male is very small. Grey's. Anatomy has a 77% skew.

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  42. I kind of think that Two and a Half Men and Bad Judge might have overlap in audience.

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  43. i think cw might wanna consider shifting reign with hod in jan.

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  44. Yeah, it dropped to 4s pretty quickly.

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  45. I think it might get a partial order to act as a filler till Blacklist returns.

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  46. mom is amazing...cant wait :)

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  47. oh yea forgot it was adjusted up. Kinda sad when a 2.5 so far is the highest drama of the week

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  48. plus TAHM should see a small bump since its the final season

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  49. And also quite surprising when that happens to be Criminal Minds.

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  50. yup that what makes it so much more surprising

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  51. It was the surprise of the last season for me. I just watched it by chance and really liked it.

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  52. I don't thin TBBT will do a 5 (I feel this season has been so subpar) but MOMs should do well a much better than that other show that loses 50% of its lead in

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  53. Reign should move to Fridays come midseason.

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  54. What did TVD and Reign rate last night ?

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  55. Might be some evidence to see how well it will do when TB moves there. If it still does well, it'll probably be an indication the two can co-exist in the slot rather easily.

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  56. OT, but from November, I will be able to watch Grey's a day earlier, yay!

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  57. that may work but they still have batb and izombie to air .maybe if they push batb to the summer they will have an opening

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  58. So, four more episodes? Maybe six?
    If they order more, perhaps they do a full nine, but then run a marathon of the show or something and then try to relaunch.

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  59. We still don't know.

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  61. Part of that has probably been because the show went up against other shows that held their own. If you think that DWTS, Gotham, and TV each took away .1-.3 demo points in the L+SD ratings, well, there's the difference. The time-shifted ratings seem to be holding up, though, as they are for most other shows, so perhaps all will be normal again when it goes back to Thursday.

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  62. Starting from Sunday further, I'll be getting this an hour earlier!

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  63. I think batb is a good summer option; it has the same rating as most of their summer program, so they could leave it there to air episodes until they reach syndication. They make profit without affecting their fall ratings and the fans are happy. Sounds like a good deal to me

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  64. Well to be fair, this season's clear top 3 dramas air at the end of the week (Scandal, Murder, OUAT) so it's kind of unfair to make the comparison so soon. But The Blacklist really underperformed this week though.

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  65. Do you have a regular source for time shifting viewing? I have been trying to keep track of L+3 numbers this season but it's very hard to find the numbers regularly. The L+7 are usually posted for the top20 or whatever it is and that's it, unless you get them from random press releases from the networks. Do you know any website that systematically gives them?

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  66. Table won't load. Tried clearing my cookies and also made adblock stop working in this site. Any suggestions?

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  67. TVBTN from zap2it.com usually posts them. A lot of what they post is press releases, but it's easy enough to sort through all of the (usually amusing) BS (e.g. "Show X on ABC surges from week to week, going from a ,7 to a .9," or "Show Y is the number one, non sports show concerning residents of the American Southwest!") and get the numbers. I'd also check out thefutoncriic.com, although that site is best for news about shows in development.
    I need to start reading that site that gives the sub demos, the one whose name I can't remember that is, I think, sitting in an email.

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  68. I'd say to air after the Voice as a special or something to see if it can lure viewers in and do better than either Marry Me or AAB.

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  69. I think it's a general issue, mine is also not loading.

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  70. I think they should wait and see where it settles once Men comes on the schedule. If it remains around the same level, I would order a few more eps as bridge for January, yes. On the 8pm hour, I would put double pumps of P&R until The Blacklist arrives to the night and then yes, Heroes Reborn.

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  71. So, I just cleared my cookies for naught.

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  72. They should move Reign to Fridays with HoD and air iZombie or The Messengers there. BatB can air in the summer.

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  73. So, any word on finals?

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  74. tv media insights. I use that one regularly and I keep track of all the main subdemos and stuff like gender breakdown and stuff. I will do a post about it here one of these days.

    Thanks for the reply about the dvr numbers. Yeah, I usually do that of using TVBTN but I was kind of hoping there was a systematic way of getting other than looking in a lot of posts. And the problem is that even doing so I won't get the complete picture, just some shows. But I'll keep looking ;)

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  75. Scandal: 3.0. 10M
    HTGAWM: 3.0, 9.9M

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  76. Yay for both shows! Amazing news! Murder is such a big hit.

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  77. Bad Judge at a 1.0, 4.3M
    A to Z at a .9, 3.2M

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  78. I'm also very happy. Now, let's just see how Grey's did.

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  79. Grey's: 2.5, 8.6M


    All in all, a good night for ABC.

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  80. VD 0.8, Reign: 0.5

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  81. GA is also up to a 2.5 ;) Beats blacklist and the ncis twins and ties only Criminal Minds. ABC really is on another level with dramas with TGIT+OUAT.

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  82. Reign adjusted down. Again.

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  83. A Bones repeat (4.3M and 0.9) beat in viewers an original Gracepoint (3.8) and tie in demo.

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  84. and they weren't last week?

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  85. Indeed. ABC is having a fantastic year in dramas (for the most part) and an okay year in comedies, with the Wednesday block thriving.

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  86. The Biggest Loser and Parenthood did a 1.2.

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  87. If you mean it will adjust down again like last week? I agree

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  88. Yes, I think it will adjust down again when the finals roll in.

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  89. That Bones repeat did incredibly well. FOX will never be able to let go of this show.

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  90. More done this week than last week.

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  91. Breakdown for TVD:


    A18-49: 0.8
    A18-34: 0.9
    W18-34: 1.1


    Reign:


    0.5
    0.5
    0.7

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  92. Last night was a technicality. It did a 0.45 in final ratings, so it really was up.

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  93. So happy to hear that. I love the show.

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  94. Paranthood is done anyway, they were literally using it as place holder for after Football and TBL should be used as filler and in the summer, it should not be used as a lead in for any show esp not The Blacklist when it moves to Thursday.

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  95. the half hours for VD 0.8 0.8, Reign 0.5 0.5

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  96. Half-hours aren't an indicative of adjustments.

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  97. the W18-34 is quite low for TVD.

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  98. Parenthood was pre-empted in NYC for Ebola coverage. Might be inflated.

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  99. true but its the only data we have for now.

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  100. Also, where did you got those half-hours? Marc hasn't released those yet.

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  101. ABC really is having an incredible year. Sure they have a big problem Tuesdays at 8 but compared to last year when they had big problems in a lot of places, it's amazing. Sure there are slots that could be improved like Sundays at 9 and Tuesdays at 10pm, but they are nowhere near as awful as the likes of Lucky 7 or Betrayal last year.

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  102. Curious to see what the time-shifted numbers show. If there's any stability at all, maybe BJ gets a back order.

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  103. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-thursday-ratings-10-23-2014.html

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  104. Are you still having an issue. The table is showing fine for me.

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  105. Abc in terms of scripted programs is doing the best out of all the networks except for their tues

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  106. Wow, Scandal skews so young.


    A 2.7 in 18-34.

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  107. Now it showed.
    Weird, it's like for some time it just really didn't want to show up

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  108. TVD should rise.This season is way better than the last season

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  109. WOW.......Shonda must be so happy and proud right now. So as ABC. I'm loving HTGAWM and Scandal!!!

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  110. There you go:

    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
    Viewers: 8.67 million (#2), A18-49: 2.4/ 8 (#2)

    CBS – NFL Thursday Night Kick-Off
    Viewers: 12.26 million (#1), A18-49: 3.4/12 (#1)

    NBC – The Biggest Loser
    Viewers: 4.76 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#3)

    Fox – Bones (R)
    Viewers: 4.24 million (#4), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#4)

    CW – The Vampire Diaries
    Viewers: 1.68 million (#5), A18-49: 0.8/ 3 (#5)

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    ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
    Viewers: 8.53 million (#2), A18-49: 2.5/ 8 (#2)

    CBS – Thursday Night Football (San Diego at Denver)
    Viewers: 15.61 million (#1), A18-49: 4.6/15 (#1)

    NBC – The Biggest Loser
    Viewers: 4.54 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#3)

    Fox – Bones (R)
    Viewers: 4.231 million (#4), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#4)

    CW – The Vampire Diaries
    Viewers: 1.63 million (#5), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#5)

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    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – Scandal
    Viewers: 9.91 million (#2), A18-49: 3.0/ 9 (#2)

    CBS – Thursday Night Football (San Diego at Denver)
    Viewers: 16.61 million (#1), A18-49: 5.1/15 (#1)

    NBC – Bad Judge
    Viewers: 4.33 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#3)

    Fox – Gracepoint
    Viewers: 3.51 million (#4), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#4)

    CW – Reign
    Viewers: 1.38 million (#5), A18-49: 0.5/ 2 (#5)

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    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – Scandal
    Viewers: 10.09 million (#2), A18-49: 3.1/ 9 (#2)

    CBS – Thursday Night Football (San Diego at Denver)
    Viewers: 15.54 million (#1), A18-49: 5.0/15 (#1)

    NBC – A To Z
    Viewers: 3.22 million (#4), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#3)

    Fox – Graceoint
    Viewers: 3.48 million (#3), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#4)

    CW – Reign
    Viewers: 1.33 million (#5), A18-49: 0.5/ 1 (#5)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC – How To Get Away With Murder
    Viewers: 10.09 million (#2), A18-49: 3.1/ 9 (#2)

    CBS – Thursday Night Football (San Diego at Denver)
    Viewers: 14.62 million (#1), A18-49: 4.8/14 (#1)

    NBC – Parenthood
    Viewers: 4.11 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#3)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC – How To Get Away With Murder
    Viewers: 9.64 million (#2), A18-49: 2.9/ 9 (#2)

    CBS – Thursday Night Football (San Diego at Denver)
    Viewers: 12.99 million (#1), A18-49: 4.4/14 (#1)

    NBC – Parenthood
    Viewers: 4.06 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#3)

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  111. Gotham is a runner up, but yeah. The whole Sunday line up- minus Mulaney- is up there with OUAT and Scandal thanks to football

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  112. If that one season if of 22 episodes. But, I don't think it will get a back order. I am still enjoying it while it last, tho.

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  113. Where do you see those averages?

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  114. As I said earlier this week, there's a small chance NBC could enter into midseason essentially starting over. They probably won't launch any new comedy until February, and perhaps the middle of the month depending on when TV comes back. If it doesn't want to move things around, it might need to double pump AAB and others to make room. That would mean, aside from Parks, nothing but new stuff.
    I hope they aren't that quick, though. Marry Me is very funny, at least two episodes in, and I'd like to see it given time to grow.

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  115. My guess is Scandal will adjust up and HTGAWM will stay at 3.0.

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  116. My numbers (which sometimes have to include estimates based on the other weeks' skew) are the following:
    - Family Guy: 3.83
    - Big Bang: 3.41
    - The Simpsons: 3.18
    - The Voice: 2.87
    - Scandal: 2.78
    - OUAT: 2.75
    - Murder: 2.60
    - Modern Family: 2.45
    - B99: 2.28
    - GA: 2.18
    - Gotham: 2.16


    Nothing else cracks a 2.0 average, the next one is the blacklist at 1.83 but the gap is pretty big.

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  117. not too bad for Reign tbh, after The 100 premiered this week Reign takes #2 for theCWs sophomore dramas this season

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  118. Reign deserves this improvement and I hope ratings won't adjust down like last week.

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  119. ABC is winning every single Friday by a wide margin and I am sure at a much lower cost than NBC or CBS do, so why bother airing dramas there? I don't think they need to make changes on Fridays, though it will probably happen with Beyond the Tank.

    As for Mondays, the night is stable and gets the job done which for now should be the goal. ABC has only managed to suceed in such a big way with TGIT and Wednesday block because they focused a lot of their promotional resources here. They could not attack everything at the same time. Stable nights like Monday allow them to do that since they don't require too much work to do okay. I still think they need to a) Fix Tuesdays, b) Find a suitable post OUAT show and c) Fix the Wednesdays at 10pm slot before they worry about Mondays.

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  120. They would risk harming Grimm in the process, I don't see the advantage of that. Dateline is cheaper, does well and is a decent help to Grimm. I don't see any reason to mess with it.

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  121. If Castle doesn't bounce back from its recent slide, then they are going to have to do something about Mondays too, but I doubt that Castle won't recover, it's just something to consider.


    Tuesdays is a disaster, but there's still time to course correct. I also think Nashville has to be moved, as Wednesday at 10PM is a great place to launch a show considering the numbers Blackish is getting.
    Sundays are troublesome too; before OUAT's big ratings disappear they have to launch something out of it. Resurrection ended up wasting the spot, so once it finishes all the episodes something will be needed there, but I can't imagine what show will go there now that American Crime may not premiere there. Members only? Austronaut Wives Club? It is seriously a tough spot

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  122. Did ABC really win Fridays by such a large margin last season? NBC is only premiering its shows there tonight. We'll see what the numbers are tomorrow.
    As for Fridays, I think a drama could do well, depending on what it is. If it at least match the demos of 20/20, it'd probably pull in more ad dollars, as is usually the case. I suggested the switch of ST and the comedies because I think TGIF could be a thing again, provided one show has enough power actually grow. Maybe LMS had its shot, or maybe not. But Cristela seems interesting enough to try to establish on the night. My thinking is that, one the 9:00 hour is established, it tries to expand the block to two hours. Long way off, though.
    Mondays are stable, but Castle won't last forever. Right now, and perhaps for the next few seasons, nobody is programming a comedy at 9:00. I think it was you who said the door was wide open, because it is.
    Sundays are working to some degree, but the 10:00 hour is a problem. They wouldn't want to do away with 20/20 entirely, so why move it there. I think it would do at least as well as Revenge, if not a little better.
    Tuesdays are hard because, as long as AOS is there, it's hard to bring any coherence to the night or make more drastic scheduling moves.

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  123. Is there really a huge overlap between Dateline and Grimm's audiences? Maybe, but probably not. A show like Parks would skew young, which would be a good thing, and depending on the show, it could even help Grimm.

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  124. Good point about Wednesdays at 10:00, though. What would work there is, sadly, far from clear.

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  125. Isn't this the ratings

    CW
    Reign
    0.5
    1
    1.35

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  126. One might thing there isn't but last year, everytime NBC preempted Dateline for some other special or other thing, Grimm hit lows/ fell a lot from its previous week. That is evidence that Dateline is helping Grimm. I think what happens is that Grimm has a base audience that sticks with it but then Dateline helps fueling in casual viewers that tune in for the procedural aspect/ case of the week.

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  127. They need a water-cooler show in the vein of what Revenge was in Season 1. They have the right idea with Nashville but the wrong show. Frankly, the slot isn't even that hard since the competition isn't anything special by any means (even with AHS) and the lead-in is okay, albeit not hugely incompatible. A soap could work there (Nashville, Members Only), a thriller could work there (Revenge Season 1), a slower paced show could work there (Resurrection, American Crime?) and even a procedural (Castle, Forever) though that is not my favorite option since there are already two competing procedurals and I don't see the need of going there with the other options wide open.

    Sundays at 9pm, Sundays at 10pm, Tuesdays at 8pm are all much harder for me to program than an hour like Wednesdays at 10pm, I don't really get why it's such a bad hour for them.

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  128. Your ratings are wrong every site i went on saids reign ratings is 0.5.

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  129. I don't actually have the spreadsheet with last year's numbers on this computer, but they did win the season very comfortably. And I am pretty sure NBC was three on the night, CBS was second (though that might change this year).

    As for your proposed swap with Fridays, you would be hurting Shark Tank (since it always goes lower when it airs on the 8pm hour) and you would also hurt 20/20, since that show is always boosted by Shark Tank (see airings with originals Shark Tank as lead-in and airings without original Shark Tank as lead-in). Yes, you would boost the 9pm comedy and maaaybe that would carry to the 9h30 comedy as well but I am pretty sure it wouldn't be enough to offset the losses of Shark Tank and 20/20. It's a high risk, low reward type of move, which is something networks should avoid in my opinion. If there is going to be a move in Fridays, it will be to accommodate Beyond the Tank IMO.

    As for Mondays, yes, Castle won't last forever, but it will still last enough for them not to worry for the time being, same for DWTS. I agree with you that there is an opening for comedy at 9pm but it is not clear to me that anyone should really go for it. Comedy is on the downswing, so it's not exactly a very attractive propositon to launch comedy right now. Dramas are having a much better year, especially if you take out the inflation caused by big bang theory, which is a one-off type of show and not at all reflex of trends. There is no rule that says that network TV needs comedy in every hours. In addition, a show like The Voice, that is very strong in the W18-49 demo towards which comedies also skew in most cases, is probably as much of a competition than an hour of comedies. I would say that it is easier to launch comedies against Men/McHarthys, Marry Me/About a Boy, New Girl/ Mindy, Selfie/ MLS, 2 Broke Girls/ The Millers maybe even The Middle/ The Goldbergs than it is to launch comedies against The Voice.

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  130. Thanks for answering. It looks like a very charming show. Sad ratings are a shame :/

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  131. yes but they are not the final ratings. last week at this stage they were 0.5 and the final ratings went down to 0.4. but doesn/t mean it will happen this week. it may well be steady at 0.5

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