Top 25 Markets - 18-49
Thanks to Ed for the Top 25 Numbers
Flash 1.7
Supernatural 0.9
Fox WS 3.6
Selfie 1.2
Manhattan 0.9
AOS 1.8
Forever 1.3
NCIS 2.1
NCIS NO 1.7
POI 1.3
Voice 3.3
Marry Me 1.8
About a Boy 1.4
Chicago Fire 1.9
This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)
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The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)
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Metered Market Tuesday Ratings
Game One of The World Series Ignites Fox
Tuesday 10/21/14
Household
Rating/Share
CBS 8.7/14
Fox 8.5/14
NBC 5.4/ 9
ABC 2.9/ 5
CW 2.1/ 3
-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Tuesday 10/22/13:
Fox: +227, CW: +40, NBC: -10, CBS: -14, ABC: -17
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.
-Winners:
2014 World Series, Game 1 (Fox), “NCIS” (CBS), “The Voice” (NBC), “The Flash” (CW), “NCIS: New Orleans” (CBS)
-Honorable Mention:
“Chicago Fire” (NBC)
-Noticeable Slippage:
“Marry Me” (NBC), “About a Boy” (NBC)
-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Selfie” (ABC), “Manhattan Love Story” (ABC), “Forever” (ABC)
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Ratings Breakdown:
CBS managed to maintain overnight Tuesday dominance despite facing game one of The 2014 World Series, besting baseball by two-tenths of a rating point (or two percent) in households. But Fox came to life care of the San Francisco Giants vs. the Kansas City Royals (7-1) with an estimated 8.5 rating/14 share in the household overnights from 8-11 p.m. (peaking in the 9 p.m. half-hour with a 9.4/15). Comparably, this was 13 percent below the 9.8/15 for game one of the St. Louis Cardinals at the Boston Red Sox on Wednesday, Oct. 23, 2013. And that translated into 14.40 million viewers and a 4.2 rating/13 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data.
One week earlier, Fox averaged a mere 1.4/ 2 in the household overnights with its combination of repeats of “The Simpsons” and “Bob’s Burgers” and original installments of “New Girl” and “The Mindy Project.” Fox, needless to say, is hoping for a seven game series.
CBS, meanwhile, slipped by only four percent from one week earlier with its line-up of “NCIS” (#1: 10.5/16), “NCIS: New Orleans” (#1: 9.5/14) and “Person of Interest” (#2: 6.0/10). “NCIS: New Orleans,” of course, is a shoo-in for a full season episode order at any moment.
NBC was also on the Tuesday overnight map thanks to “The Voice” at a 7.8/12 (#3) from 8-9 p.m., which was 66 percent above year-ago occupant “The Biggest Loser” (4.7/ 7 on 10/22/13). But week two of lead-out sitcom “Marry Me” slipped to a distant 4.2/ 6 in the 9 p.m. half-hour, which was 25 percent below the 5.6/ 9 series-opener last week. And that translated into 7.54 million viewers and a 2.3/ 7 among adults 18-49 (out of 12.34 million and a 3.4/11 in the demo for “The Voice”). Last night, overnight retention for “Marry Me” out of the 8:30 p.m. portion of “The Voice” (8.2/12) was lacking at 51 percent.
Next on NBC was sophomore “About a Boy” (#3: 3.3/ 5 at 9:30 p.m.), which dropped by 21 percent from the 4.2/ 6 season-opener one week earlier, followed by “Chicago Fire” at a consistent 4.6/ 8 (#3) at 10 p.m. Comparably, overnight growth for “Chicago Fire” out of “About a Boy” was a noticeable 39 percent.
Elsewhere, week three of just-renewed “The Flash” on The CW dropped 10 percent from week two with a 2.7/ 4 at 8 p.m. But that 2.7 rating was still 80 percent above year-ago occupant “The Originals” (1.5/ 2 on 10/22/13). Three-week overnight track for “The Flash”: 3.4/ 5 – 3.0/ 5 – 2.7/ 4.
Next on The CW was veteran “Supernatural” at a 1.5/ 2 at 9 p.m. (#5), which was flat from both last week and the year-ago evening.
Over at ABC, the early results remain dismal for sitcoms “Selfie” (#4: 2.8/ 4) and “Manhattan Love Story” (#4: 2.1/ 3), which dropped from year-ago occupant “Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD” (5.1/ 8 on 10/22/13) by an average of 52 percent. Overnight results for both comedies, which have three more scripts ordered, were series-lows. Relocated “Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD,” meanwhile, could only muster a fourth-place 3.0/ 5 from 9-10 p.m., which was two-tenths of a rating point (or six percent) below the 3.2/ 5 one week earlier. But that 3.2 overnight rating still translated into respectable 1.7/ 5 among adults 18-49.
Capping off the night for ABC was episode five of drama “Forever” at a 3.4/ 6 at 10 p.m., which was flat from one week earlier (and that resulted in 4.81 million viewers and a 1.1/ 3 in the demo, based on the Live + Same Day data).
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
Game One of The World Series Ignites Fox
Tuesday 10/21/14
Household
Rating/Share
CBS 8.7/14
Fox 8.5/14
NBC 5.4/ 9
ABC 2.9/ 5
CW 2.1/ 3
-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Tuesday 10/22/13:
Fox: +227, CW: +40, NBC: -10, CBS: -14, ABC: -17
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.
-Winners:
2014 World Series, Game 1 (Fox), “NCIS” (CBS), “The Voice” (NBC), “The Flash” (CW), “NCIS: New Orleans” (CBS)
-Honorable Mention:
“Chicago Fire” (NBC)
-Noticeable Slippage:
“Marry Me” (NBC), “About a Boy” (NBC)
-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Selfie” (ABC), “Manhattan Love Story” (ABC), “Forever” (ABC)
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Ratings Breakdown:
CBS managed to maintain overnight Tuesday dominance despite facing game one of The 2014 World Series, besting baseball by two-tenths of a rating point (or two percent) in households. But Fox came to life care of the San Francisco Giants vs. the Kansas City Royals (7-1) with an estimated 8.5 rating/14 share in the household overnights from 8-11 p.m. (peaking in the 9 p.m. half-hour with a 9.4/15). Comparably, this was 13 percent below the 9.8/15 for game one of the St. Louis Cardinals at the Boston Red Sox on Wednesday, Oct. 23, 2013. And that translated into 14.40 million viewers and a 4.2 rating/13 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data.
One week earlier, Fox averaged a mere 1.4/ 2 in the household overnights with its combination of repeats of “The Simpsons” and “Bob’s Burgers” and original installments of “New Girl” and “The Mindy Project.” Fox, needless to say, is hoping for a seven game series.
CBS, meanwhile, slipped by only four percent from one week earlier with its line-up of “NCIS” (#1: 10.5/16), “NCIS: New Orleans” (#1: 9.5/14) and “Person of Interest” (#2: 6.0/10). “NCIS: New Orleans,” of course, is a shoo-in for a full season episode order at any moment.
NBC was also on the Tuesday overnight map thanks to “The Voice” at a 7.8/12 (#3) from 8-9 p.m., which was 66 percent above year-ago occupant “The Biggest Loser” (4.7/ 7 on 10/22/13). But week two of lead-out sitcom “Marry Me” slipped to a distant 4.2/ 6 in the 9 p.m. half-hour, which was 25 percent below the 5.6/ 9 series-opener last week. And that translated into 7.54 million viewers and a 2.3/ 7 among adults 18-49 (out of 12.34 million and a 3.4/11 in the demo for “The Voice”). Last night, overnight retention for “Marry Me” out of the 8:30 p.m. portion of “The Voice” (8.2/12) was lacking at 51 percent.
Next on NBC was sophomore “About a Boy” (#3: 3.3/ 5 at 9:30 p.m.), which dropped by 21 percent from the 4.2/ 6 season-opener one week earlier, followed by “Chicago Fire” at a consistent 4.6/ 8 (#3) at 10 p.m. Comparably, overnight growth for “Chicago Fire” out of “About a Boy” was a noticeable 39 percent.
Elsewhere, week three of just-renewed “The Flash” on The CW dropped 10 percent from week two with a 2.7/ 4 at 8 p.m. But that 2.7 rating was still 80 percent above year-ago occupant “The Originals” (1.5/ 2 on 10/22/13). Three-week overnight track for “The Flash”: 3.4/ 5 – 3.0/ 5 – 2.7/ 4.
Next on The CW was veteran “Supernatural” at a 1.5/ 2 at 9 p.m. (#5), which was flat from both last week and the year-ago evening.
Over at ABC, the early results remain dismal for sitcoms “Selfie” (#4: 2.8/ 4) and “Manhattan Love Story” (#4: 2.1/ 3), which dropped from year-ago occupant “Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD” (5.1/ 8 on 10/22/13) by an average of 52 percent. Overnight results for both comedies, which have three more scripts ordered, were series-lows. Relocated “Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD,” meanwhile, could only muster a fourth-place 3.0/ 5 from 9-10 p.m., which was two-tenths of a rating point (or six percent) below the 3.2/ 5 one week earlier. But that 3.2 overnight rating still translated into respectable 1.7/ 5 among adults 18-49.
Capping off the night for ABC was episode five of drama “Forever” at a 3.4/ 6 at 10 p.m., which was flat from one week earlier (and that resulted in 4.81 million viewers and a 1.1/ 3 in the demo, based on the Live + Same Day data).
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
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The first item that gets posted (normally around 2pm GMT) is the early overnight analysis based on the early household numbers (these are not the same as the Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers that are posted later).
Next, if available, we will post the Top 25 Market 18-49 Ratings to give you a rough idea of the ratings to following.
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1. Looks like NBC comedies took a hit, not a positive sign.
ReplyDelete2. AOS hits new low in HH, if it goes below 1.5 it will be in trouble (well it go into the 2s in HH?)
3. FOX is probably just real happy right now!
Another series low for shield this is just ridiculous after the amazing episode :( hopefully next week will be better with the trailer
ReplyDeleteit tied its overnight low from 2 weeks ago which translated to a 1.6 in the demo. ABC really needs to pull those horrific comedies already.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how much of a boost the Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer will give AOS next week, if at all.
ReplyDeleteThose World Series numbers have me so nervous about it pulling lots of viewers away from The 100 tonight :( I'm so excited for The 100 coming back tho!
Maybe they might finally pull them this week
ReplyDeleteAgreed even if they are causing shield to lose .1 or.2 demo points its enough for renewal or cancellation for networks
ReplyDeleteI already was saying goodbye to selfie and MLS since it started but forever I'm sort of shocked and im so happy for The Flash finally something that is amazing and the ratings can add up
ReplyDeleteI don't think it has any effect on AOS
ReplyDeleteIt might give quite a big boost actually marvel will be smart enough to debut it after shield ends and since the episode has a lot of shield vs hydra new viewers might actually stick with it
ReplyDeleteThe promo gives a whole political vibe like Captain America:TWS
Nooo! Marry Me :(.
ReplyDeleteIt's so sad to see that it's not doing good following The Voice. Hopefully it didn't fall too much on the demos
Um -- the chart of ratings at the top of this article isn't for last night ...
ReplyDeleteShould be fixed now. Tks.
ReplyDeleteThe table is totally wrong, looks like its from last year or something, anyway Forever was at least stable, maybe it could sneak out a 1.2 this week, these comedies are just dragging down the whole night tho.
ReplyDeleteThis week it was to be expected. I also expect Flash to be a bit down. Both shows skew male so they are bound to be more affected by a heavy male skewing event coming their way (the world series). Same reason why I am worried about arrow and the 100 tonight.
ReplyDeleteThose could be trouble for AOS but I'll reserve judgment until finals are out
ReplyDeleteNBC: what happened last night? Was it the World Series?
ReplyDeleteI hope so, then it can rebound once it's over
ReplyDeletehopefully but I don't think theres a huge overlap between baseball fans and the voice/marryme
ReplyDeleteNot looking good for Marry Me (and AAB)
ReplyDeleteThe only thing they have going for them is that they are still going to be higher than Bad Judge and A to Z... well, if About a Boy fell too much, who knows?
ReplyDeleteLet's hope the slipagge isn't that bad
The 100 worries me too I love the show so much the cw should promote it a lot I'm worried for it seeing arrows dip last week
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting for Flash's numbers to stabilize, hope the dip this week was because of the WS.
ReplyDeleteFlash was renewed?! I thought it was a full season pick-up. Great!
It was a full season pick-up. Berman should get his facts right.
ReplyDeleteTheir Monday also went quite disastrous in my opinion. They fell 15% week to week and were down 21% year to year.
ReplyDeleteI hope About a Boy managed to hang in there. It's such a charming, underappreciated show.
Aww!!
ReplyDeleteOk it's a stupid question but how exactly do you read the early analysis numbers? (e.g. 6.0/10 for Person of Interest) I've always wondered about that but usually I just wait until the early overnight table comes up
ReplyDeleteBerman calls getting a back-order as "full-season renewed", which isn't really a term.
ReplyDeleteIt really looks like another bad year for comedy in general.
ReplyDeleteI think that The Voice is slowly starting its downward spiral which will impact NBC greatly
ReplyDeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteHave you tried reading the Ratings FAQ that should be linked to in the article. It should help explain things.
These early number just give an indication of total viewers. Can't predict demos from these.
ReplyDeleteA 6.0/10 is usually near 10 million viewers.
I actually did, but I probably overlooked it while skimming :) Will take a closer look, thank you!
ReplyDeleteNo problem. I think wikipedia also has some good info on Nielsen Ratings and Household numbers.
ReplyDeleteNew series low for AoS, it is like the title 1x16: End Of The Beginning.
ReplyDeleteSo much for the comments suggesting Agents of SHIELD hit a low, according to the top 25 early markets ! The Flash is truly a bonafide hit for the CW. The next Smallville for them, perhaps?
ReplyDeleteVery vad drops for NBC comedies.
ReplyDeleteIf Marry Me falls 4 tenths on the fast affiliate numbers like last week it's going to be a very ugly drop :/. I really hope it did score that 1.8, otherwise I can already see its doom
ReplyDeleteIt's probably time shifting more than anything else. The numbers seem to hold up when later viewings are factored in.
ReplyDeleteLast night was the second episode of AAB that I caught. I liked it much more than the first. I also liked the second episode of Marry Me.
Anyway, this does present something of a problem for NBC. It needs to launch another comedy block, and it'd be great if it could use TV, but it can only do that in so many ways. Perhaps more importantly, it can't keep yanking shows around. It was patient with CF, and it worked. Given that MM is actually funny, I'd really like them to give it some time to grow.
Perhaps.
ReplyDeleteUnless I missed something, it's still not clear when, exactly, it'll come back in the spring. While I can see the logic in trying to premiere it right after the Superbowl, I could also see the logic in letting it take a breather.
NBC has a lot of decent but not particularly great unscripted performers. If I were the network, I'd focus like a laser on developing two different (as in, not similar concepts) so they could be used on different nights. Maybe make at least one of them very youth focused, sort of like that Bill Eichner show where he does little but approach people on the street. Or maybe they could broadcast Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars production on the air.
If something clicks, it could then be used so that TV could take a season or two off.
Marry Me down 9 tenths from its top 25 rating last week, lmao
ReplyDeleteMarry Me is doomed. Too bad NBC cancelled Mission Control. All their other comedies are gonna be DOA.
ReplyDeleteI have cleared the cookies and have deactivated adblock,still can't see the charts today?Someone help.
ReplyDeleteFor real though. It's not a great show anyway. Maybe NBC will finally give Bad Judge a chance.
ReplyDeleteIt will. AoS and NCIS skew the opposite way, the first one will go down and the other will go up
ReplyDeleteLast week SHIELD had a 1.9 top 25 rating while NOLA had a 1.7. SHIELD is down a tenth while NOLA is steady.
ReplyDeleteAOS will never recover from last year's terrible start. I was at Comicfest this week in San Diego and it had ZERO interest to anyone there. The buzz was decidedly for The Flash...will be at Stan Lee's comickazi in a couple weeks...I bet it will be the same, and Stan Lee is Mr. Marvel comics!
ReplyDeleteSome of the networks, but NBC in particular, are caught in that hard place where they have decent shows, but nothing that is clicking just yet, and so many scheduling obstacles that it's hard to work around. They probably do need to let something like Marry Me have time to try to click, but it's using the best spot the network has, so...
ReplyDeleteThis is one of the reasons why I want Wednesdays blown up. I assume Mondays and Tuesdays are kind of fixed, and Thursdays might not see a new high profile comedy for another few seasons. (Maybe they will put Cosby there.) on Wednesdays, only ABC has comedies, and while they are strong, they are not invincible. I can see the logic in trying to counter program ABC with something like, well, Marry Me, and then maybe using Tuesdays for some sort of family comedies.
Hi @Joy Haldar Try pressing CTRL-F5 to force a refresh
ReplyDeleteThe Charts arn't up yet I don't think, I can't see them. Earlier it was up but had wrong data on it (seemed like last years or a mix of shows anyway from different days) that was taken down quickly. The chart usually appears any minute now actually
ReplyDeleteYeah, Arrow was hit hard by baseball last year, and it's already on the low end (.8), so worrying makes sense. It had a mere .7 against the World Series last year and then hit a 1.2 within a month.
ReplyDeleteSophomore bounces for Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Goldbergs as well as a solid showing from Blackish brighten the picture a bit, but yeah. Mulaney, Selfie, MLS, and A to Z pretty much flopped. Bad Judge and Marry Me don't look good. At least Christela is beating the Neighbors (high bar, I know)
ReplyDelete1.4 for Flash. I hope it stabilizes now.
ReplyDeleteReally hoping that Selfie pulls through. A nice show with great actors/actresses. A pleasant surprise, for sure
ReplyDeleteThe Flash is still doing amazingly well for the CW.
ReplyDeleteThere was word from insiders, whoever they are, in EW yesterday that the crop of midseason shows is thought to be weak by those running the networks. I wonder if that includes both comedies and dramas.
ReplyDeleteI'm really hoping UKS works for NBC. It sounds like a novel concept, and I usually like what Tina Fey does.
Uh, not such a bad drop for Marry Me after all; I was fearing the worst!
ReplyDelete1.9 aint that pretty, but considering I was fearing a 1.4, I'll take it! Hopefuly it won't fall that much from there
I'm not in the least suprised it flopped, I had it down as a certain cancellation early on in the season as soon as it was picked up. I dont see it last beyond 2014.
ReplyDeleteIt keeps dropping, still not to negative numbers or anything but I'm worried that it soon will reach CW average numbers o.O
ReplyDeleteDefinitely no Season 3 for AOS.
ReplyDeleteThat's not THAT terrible for MM. It's kind of worse for AAB, since it's now in the territory where it's not deserving of the spot.
ReplyDeleteI hope The Flash adjuts up and that it stays in the 1.5 range for the rest of the season, but even if it ends up doing regular 1.0s it's still fine
ReplyDeleteThat show is pretty dead too
ReplyDeleteAnd only down 4 tenths from last week, actually
ReplyDeletehow likely is it that ABC cancels their entire Tuesday night lineup? nothing's working there.
ReplyDeleteChigago fire & AOS hit low :(
ReplyDeleteChicago Fire was lower last week.
ReplyDeleteNo where near a low for Chicago fire.
ReplyDeleteThe baseball did all this damage in the shows...maybe next week, many shows can go up!!!!
ReplyDeleteTop freshman dramas last year are falling (Resurrection, Sleepy Hollow, The Blacklist, and AOS). I know some are still pulling good ratings for the network but still.....
ReplyDeleteYeah, after a certain point, maybe it makes sense to just move on. The network only has so many available slots, and it's not like anything is preventing them from trying something similar later on if they want.
ReplyDeleteHell, they could try something new next season if they wanted. Or maybe if this Agent Carter show works, go with that instead of AOS.
doesnt baseball last a few weeks?
ReplyDeletenot sure but CF's low is liek a 1.5 or something?
ReplyDeleteI don't know....kkkkkk
ReplyDeleteTop dramas of this season are hitting lows too. Murder and Scorpion are already in the 2s
ReplyDeletenot from the US so I havent a clue, I just assume it lasts a few weeks because its always billed as a huge sporting event in the US
ReplyDeleteWhere can we see the half hours?
ReplyDeleteThey need to start by yanking MLS now, Selfie seems to have stabilized a bit in the low 1's but the drop to MLS is huge which is not helping AOS at all and in turn Forever (which similar to Selfie seems to be stable in the low 1's) is also not being helped.
ReplyDeleteI think before they cancel or move any of those 3 they need to pull MLS and see if that helps get the night moving somewhat.
The same for me!!! I'm not from U.S but if it last longer, I think we have to get used to these numbers!!!
ReplyDeletehow long does WS last?
ReplyDeleteHere are the 1/2 hr breakdowns
ReplyDelete8:00 p.m.
ABC – Selfie
Viewers: 3.81 million (#4), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#5)
CBS – NCIS
Viewers: 16.58 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/ 8 (#3)
NBC – The Voice
Viewers: 10.56 million (#3), A18-49: 2.8/ 9 (#2)
Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 1 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
Viewers: 12.49 million (#1), A18-49: 3.2/11 (#1)
CW – The Flash
Viewers: 3.30 million (#5), A18-49: 1.4/ 5 (#4)
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ABC – Manhattan Love Story
Viewers: 2.65 million (#5), A18-49: 0.7/ 2 (#5)
CBS – NCIS
Viewers: 17.17 million (#1), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#3)
NBC – The Voice
Viewers: 12.43 million (#3), A18-49: 3.4/10 (#2)
Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 1 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
Viewers: 12.68 million (#1), A18-49: 3.5/10 (#1)
CW – The Flash
Viewers: 3.46 million (#4), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)
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9:00 p.m.
ABC – Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD
Viewers: 4.39 million (#4), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#4)
CBS – NCIS: New Orleans
Viewers: 16.13 million (#1), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#2)
NBC – Marry Me
Viewers: 6.07 million (#3), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#3)
Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 1 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
Viewers: 11.52 million (#2), A18-49: 3.1/ 9 (#1)
CW – Supernatural
Viewers: 2.19 million (#5), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#5)
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9:30 p.m.
ABC – Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD
Viewers: 4.19 million (#4), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#3)
CBS – NCIS: New Orleans
Viewers: 15.60 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/ 7 (#2)
NBC – About a Boy
Viewers: 4.89 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)
Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 1 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
Viewers: 10.28 million (#2), A18-49: 2.9/ 8 (#1)
CW – Supernatural
Viewers: 2.01 million (#5), A18-49: 0.9/ 2 (#5)
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10:00 p.m.
ABC – Forever
Viewers: 4.93 million (#4), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#4)
CBS – Person of Interest
Viewers: 9.81 million (#1), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#3)
NBC – Chicago Fire
Viewers: 7.36 million (#2), A18-49: 1.9/ 6 (#2)
Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 1 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
Viewers: 9.24 million (#2), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#1)
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10:30 p.m.
ABC – Forever
Viewers: 4.67 million (#4), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#4)
CBS – Person of Interest
Viewers: 8.71 million (#1), A18-49: 1.4/ 5 (#3)
NBC – Chicago Fire
Viewers: 7.50 million (#3), A18-49: 1.9/ 6 (#2)
Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 1 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
Viewers: 7.85 million (#2), A18-49: 2.2/ 7 (#1)
fine yes, still dissapointing...I was hoping for Flash to be the flagship to pull theCW out of the mud :(
ReplyDeleteIs that a relatively good rating for Person Of Interest? I really enjoy it. Wouldn't like to see it tank
ReplyDeleteIt's potentially 7 games which will be Tues, Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun, Tue, Wed
ReplyDeleteSo it could be over Sat and not impact next week at all
thanks
ReplyDeletedamn it Forever and AoS :(
Oh shield :(
ReplyDeleteIt's ok, I guess. Not good, not horrible, only acceptable. It should be a couple of tenths higher to be doing good. It will probably see another season, but it's getting moved to either Sunday or Friday
ReplyDeleteWow at NCIS New Orleans posting full retention out of NCIS. Chicago Fire did amazing for NBC but the comedies did real bad. Poor About a Boy, I really want that show to stick around. Marry Me is not long for this world though. Elsewhere, the CW held up surprisingly well despite the world series and Shield took its predictable drop against the male skewing event it had against it.
ReplyDeleteI dont get it, why is SHIELD and Forever spiraling down?!?!?! I think this might be the end for ABC on Tuesdays, they may have to wipe everything there and start over.
ReplyDeleteFarewell SHIELD, it was nice knowing you.
SHIELD is ABC's lowest drama.
ReplyDeleteNot even close
ReplyDeleteRevenge, Nashville, Forever do worse than SHIELD. Resurrection now too.
ReplyDeleteCBS should switch failing POI with CSI/CSI: Cyber. CBS doesn't own POI and certainly the CSI franchise would be a far better fit with NO than TGW. For whatever reason, POI is just not cutting it - maybe it's the serial aspect. Those ratings are too low considering ABC has basically gone dark again on Tuesdays at 10
ReplyDeleteHm...
ReplyDeleteABC drama week so far:
1. Shield/Castle
3. Forever
Still to come:
- Virtually certain to beat Shield: TGIT, OUAT
- Unlikely to beat Shield: Revenge, Resurrection, Nashville
Furthermore, Shield tends to adjust up which would also put it ahead of Castle.
Shield is not getting cancelled. I may have to start putting this on copy paste memory every Wednesday.
ReplyDeleteYeah it's Sunday or Friday bound. Serialization last year really hurt it, sadly, even if this year they are mostly back to procedural.
ReplyDeleteLet's not even talk about the top freshman comedy from last year then :P
ReplyDeleteI'm talking about viewers.
ReplyDeleteChicago Fire had one of its most impressive performances yet and by far its most impressive performance of the season.
ReplyDeleteAgents of Shield is not getting cancelled.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly what it is doing.
ReplyDeleteWho even cares about total viewers? It looks nice, but it's mostly irrelevant
ReplyDeleteRemember that the flash is extremely male skewing so it was bound to be very affected by the World Series, the same way the CW male Wednesdays has been hitting fall lows against the world series for the past two years and the same way Shield was down last night.
ReplyDeleteABC renewed Nashville for a 3rd season when it was getting 1.2-1.4 for more than half the season.
ReplyDeleteAlso FOX got a 11.74m viewers last night. You know what its peak was last week? 2.26m for New Girl. Also let's wait for final adjustments where AoS has a history of adjusting up.
I think Marry Me looks a tad worse since it's leading directly out of the voice and is only 0.5 higher. About a Boy also has the episode count advantage. But it's picking hairs, really, neither show did well. I don't think Marry Me is getting a backorder.
ReplyDeleteYeah I'm hoping for steady 1.5s or anything over 1 for the rest of the season.
ReplyDeleteMay settle after baseball.
A bit worried about 100 tonight.
Agents of Shield is getting renewed. I will have to type this over and over again for people to get it, it appears.
ReplyDeleteBest of 7 series, 1st to 4 wins, rest of games are Today, Fri, Sat, Sun, Tue, Wed
ReplyDeleteCould end Saturday but could go all the way to Wednesday
Agents of Shield is not getting cancelled.
ReplyDeleteOne of the few smart people when it comes to AoS renewal chances.
ReplyDeleteis baseball popular in America? A lot of the ratings for shows seem down.
ReplyDeleteAgents of Shield is not getting cancelled.
ReplyDeleteAnd I think Marry Me looks pretty bad to be honest. I am not really sure if it will get a backorder if it isn't done falling. It's hard to know for sure what the bar is since it's obvious NBC's highest rated comedy but it's a Go On in the making, if not worse IMO.
The Blacklist and Sleepy Hollow are still holding well. AoS really started showing the drops from episode 2 and onwards, so it's not that surprising. Same could be said about Resurrection, but its ratings fell to 1.5 quicker than Shield, so it's more shocking
ReplyDeleteIt depends on how Marry Me does next week and onwards; should it score 2.0-1.8 range is defenitely getting a back order. If it goes lower than 1.6- which could happen- it's 13 and done
ReplyDeletethanks for the correction
ReplyDeleteThe retention of NCIS:NO out of the mothership is very impressive. That said, a 2.4 isn't that great for NCIS
ReplyDeleteThose NBC commedies don't look good to me. I wonder if either will make it past this season. And i'm thoroughly enjoying Marry Me.
yes I was wrong
ReplyDeleteAgents of Shield and Forever - That's depressing
ReplyDeletethanks for the correction
ReplyDeletesad to see Forever so low, I really like that show. This is why i hate watching any new shows. I have a feeling this will be gone very soon too.
ReplyDeleteI know AoS is not getting cancelled- at least not yet. I'm just saying it is worriesome to look it so low even with the world series considered. It could still adjust up, but if it doesn't I don't know if it'll be back to a 1.7 next week.
ReplyDeleteMarry Me did not do well, but I was fearing much worse considering how it fell on the early 25 market last week, so it came as a relief, but it's nothing to celebrate. If it goes below 1.6 in the coming weeks the show will be 13 episodes and done.
A 1.4 is still enough to be the flagship show for The CW
ReplyDeleteSuch a shame though, because last night's episode was phenomenal.
ReplyDeleteSunday or Friday move would kill it (due to sports on Sundays and Death Spot on Fridays), and frankly, what could CBS put there to do better? Switch it with NCIS:LA, assuming it survives? Putting it on Mondays at 10 brings too much competition from Castle and The Blacklist. It's old spot is Football now, so that's out.
Not many options for it, unfortunately, so the best it can hope for is to keep it's slot. I think the switch from Thursday @ 9 to Tuesday @ 10 hurt it more than serialization did.
Baseball get male demo - usually CBS/CW have been most impacted by baseball (especially CBS). This year will probably be lowest rated WS with a west coast team and a team that hasn't been in playoffs in 29 years.
ReplyDeleteI Live in England so can't comment too much on the impact it had (I do watch baseball tho was up to 4am watching it last night). It is the national pastime and all that but NFL is way more popular these days as the numbers show in the ratings for those games. This series features KC and San Francisco not the biggest markets in the country so the ratings arn't affected as much as say if it was a Boston, Chicago, NY, LA team in the World series. It has some impact no doubt but overall its hard to judge.
ReplyDeleteDamn, AoS, why you keep dropping?
ReplyDeleteABC is definietely going to pull MLS this week.
None of NBC's comedies are looking great, ratings-wise.
It sucks. Forever's on a tough night at a tough hour (vs. Person of Interest, Chicago Fire, and it's a 10pm slot). Most shows on ABC at this time on this night get cancelled. They're going to be hard pressed to find a show that will do okay here.
ReplyDeletePOI's numbers are frustrating because it's quality is higher than ever...
ReplyDeleteI know right?! It sucks that AoS keeps falling. It keeps it up, it will be off the air this year.
ReplyDeleteNCIS: NO is just killing AoS ratings.
And they better pull those comedy shows quickly.
It's down about 30% in both viewers and demo over episode 5 of last year. Ratings in season 2 were never below 2.0 in the demo. So ... yeah.
ReplyDeleteShort form, the numbers Mark uses are the total share, not the 18-49 ones, so they'll tend to be higher
ReplyDeleteThank you!!! =)
ReplyDeleteIdeally they yank everything down an hour - SHIELD back at 8, Forever at 9... but then they're both against NCIS which doesn't make their lives any easier,
ReplyDelete... Never mind the fact that nearly every single network show has seen similar dips compared to a few years ago. People simply watch TV differently now.
ReplyDelete18-34 ratings per showbuzzdaily:
ReplyDeleteNBC:
The Voice: 2.2
Marry Me: 1.4
About a Boy: 1.0
Chicago Fire: 1.2
ABC:
Selfie: 0.8
MLS: 0.5
AoS: 1.0
Forever: 0.8
FOX:
World Series: 2.9 (8-9PM) 2.5 (9-10PM)
CBS:
NCSI: 1.3
NCSI NO: 1.4
POI: 0.8
CW:
The Flash: 1.3
SPN: 0.8
Marry Me looks stronger on 18-34 with better retention of The Voice (63% as opposed to 55% with 18-49) and only off 3 tenths from last week (1.7).
Flash continues to be strong with that demo, being one of the highest rated scripted shows- only behind Marry Me and NCSI NO.
MLS is easily the funniest new comedy .. why is it so low :(
ReplyDeleteThanks. That's a pity. Can only hope it picks up. :(
ReplyDeletePOI is looking downright ugly for CBS right now.
ReplyDeleteAOS getting those numbers on ABC...how can it NOT be listed as a loser. The plots have been better since the last four episodes last year, but geee....4.2 million viewers? And no, I don't think The Avengers movie will help much because they tried to help AOS with Thor and Captain America tie-ins and it didn't help then either.
ReplyDeleteWell, CBS dramas aren't doing blockbuster numbers either. But yeah, POI's numbers aren't pretty
ReplyDeleteIs it though? Week 3 and we fell from a 1.9 to a 1.4.
ReplyDeleteSure shows usually drop from their premieres but still I`d be wary
5 seasons sounds about right though
ReplyDeleteLowest rated drama for them, when not counting Fridays and Sundays.
ReplyDeleteI don't really mind what day it gets moved to as long as keeps going.
ReplyDeleteI liked Revolution too. Sad it was cancelled. I wouldn't like to think I jinx the shows I like!
Nolan and Plageman only plan to go to 6 season no matter the situation anyway, as far as they've hinted. So let's hope they get to tell the whole story they intend to.
ReplyDeleteNCSI, NCSI NO and Scorpion are the only 3 dramas on CBS above 2s. Everything else is doing 1s. POI's 1.5 is not that far from NCSI LA or Stalker's 1.7.
ReplyDeletePOI would look much better with that 1.7, but it's not that horrible either
AoS's numbers make me want to KILL someone. It's Nikita all over again, absolutely fantastic show getting horrific numbers because the American public is stupid and severely lacks taste. UGH!
ReplyDeleteThat's the sad thing - if it were to stabilise at a 1.5 ABC might consider keeping it, given their lack of success in that timeslot recently.
ReplyDeleteUmmm, okay. Giacinta asked if that was a relatively good rating for POI. It's not. Didn't see a question about every other network show or the viewing habits of people these days. For POI, it's a lousy rating.
ReplyDeleteEverybody goes through that face in which they think they jinx the show they like. It's just tough luck: once I had all the shows I liked renewed, it was awesome. And then next season 5 got canned.
ReplyDeleteIt's just a matter of luck and timing
At this rate they'll be lucky with 5 though.
ReplyDeleteKinda dissapointing...I love that show
Why are you so sure about this? Please enlighten me ;-)
ReplyDeleteAOS is utterly bland and generic, I'm actually surprised the public doesn't like it.
ReplyDeletewell given that Stalker is a freshman that's better for POI
ReplyDeleteProbably not, but there's a case, maybe even a strong one, for doing so.
ReplyDeleteYeah, A lot of it is luck, but it's just so annoying at times when you become attached to a show and its characters and whoosh, the rug's pulled ouit from under you, and the show is no more!
ReplyDeleteEspecially when comedy sit-coms ( and here I apologise to their fans) which I never watch get great ratings, and quirky unusual shows get the boot.
Only the strong survive, I suppose!
Very curious to see what these numbers look like in +3 and +7.
ReplyDeleteCould we be seeing a situation where NBC goes into midseason with no comedies currently on the air? How many does AAB have for its second season?
But NCIS LA is their own show, POI will start getting the Mentalist treatmeant.
ReplyDeleteI would say Flash/AOS might be the most impacted since they usually have the highest male demo on Tuesday.
ReplyDeleteI think part of why the ratings for tv shows on average are getting lower and lower is that in general tv is in the process of dying out.
ReplyDeleteIs this true? I could be looking at the numbers differently, but are the shows I watch on The CW also the three best rated shows on the network going in the order of The Flash, Arrow and Supernatural?
ReplyDeleteI'll just watch the trailer on YouTube.
ReplyDeletePOI is amazing.
ReplyDeleteWS is bringing down everything, lets hope it will be over soon. Pity they moved POI from Thursday, I love that show, also Chicago Fire is getting better. Dropping The Flash, I love Arrow, but the Flash is not for me...
ReplyDeletePeople keep telling me reasons why I shouldn't be too worried about PoI, but sadly I still am. At least it didn't drop further, but 1.5 isn't a region with much buffer and I'd certainly like it at 1.7 or higher. I just hope it doesn't get axed if it keeps its slow decline (oddly, the procedural episodes didn't do any good). :/ Worst case, it should be given a final season when it's time, to give them the chance of wrapping it up properly.
ReplyDeleteThe show deserves more than such a low rating.
AoS will be fine it go up to 1.6 or 1..7 maybe next week will help with aou trailer plus a white collar star will help a bit in rating
ReplyDeleteStill think WS is responsible, POI will recover once baseball is over. Baseball effects more shows with a high male audience.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious... I haven't watched The Mentalist yet, so what's that treatment? :o
ReplyDeleteeither sent on Friday or Sunday.
ReplyDeleteHow many episodes have you watched, exactly?
ReplyDeleteThe Avengers 2 trailer can only help the show if they promote the crap out of it, which they didn't bother to do with the Winter Soldier crossover. The movie wasn't even mentioned in the promo for that episode.
ReplyDeletehow Sad for SPN I liked that Ep well the ending anyway the ratings got too get better now that the brothers are together doing what they need too do. AOS went down too damn you baseball.
ReplyDeleteIts not lousy, CBS 10 Pm shows are all doing poor, heck NCIS:LA did over 2.0 and huge audience but now at 10 pm Monday it is also struggling and that's after the show has been syndicated and in its 6th season. Now I know CBS doesn't own POI like NCIS but it can simply negotiate with WB to sell the episodes cheap and WB will oblige because they care about what Netflix and WGN will pay (more than 150 million).
ReplyDeleteCBS will definitely wait for WGN and Netfilx to air and see if ratings rise before it tinkers POI again because at the end of the day this is all CBS's doing. Thursday comedy expansion backfired on them with both POI, Elementary struggling because of incompatible lead ins.
i've watched both Nikita (all of it) and AOS (first season) and AOS can't compare imo to Nikita. I wanted to love AoS but the writing is uneven and I still don't feel invested in most of the characters.
ReplyDeleteI don't think they will cut About a Boy's episode order. If the situation doesn't improve, they will likely not air more than Marry Me and then air About a Boy straight through during the voice hiatus (in double pumps if need be) and just premiere two new comedies after it in the Spring cycle again. But I really need About a Boy to find a way to be renewed, I love the show.
ReplyDeleteIt's a sophomore show currently performing at 77% of its network average. The ~80% level is usually good enough for sophmores but Shield is a case in which every other factor is also going for it:
ReplyDelete- In the M18-34 demo, the show is currently performing at 122% of ABC's drama average, which is a huge boost it creates in terms of ad rates.
- While DVR numbers are of tricky use and often provide no real boost to shows, Shield's numbers jump to 84% of ABC's drama average once L3 are included, which means the C3 numbers (aka the ones that actually count) are probably a bit higher than the ones we are seeing.
- Corporate synergies between ABC and Marvel et all, the show being a huge promotional platform for Marvel etc etc.
- It's the only thing remotely working on ABC's Tuesdays and it has one of the toughest situations of all the new dramas, having to lead from a low rated and incompatible show at 9pm.
I may sound arrogant by stating it like this that Shield won't be cancelled but I just see no way of it happening.
Yeah next week will be decisive for Marry Me. Could be that it was just unlucky to have the second episode be the worst data point of the series (a la Chicago Fire back in season 1) but that sort of thing juts doesn't happen too often. We shall see how it progresseS
ReplyDeleteThe sophomore bounces really are blighting it up, yes, and Blackish is also doing good business, but everything else just looks so meh. And I don't imagine The McHarthys changing the situation...
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of CBS, we can counter the argument of the sophmore bounces talking about a little show called The Millers. Though I suspect CBS will get its own sophmore bounce with Mom, so I guess that evens itself out.
I with the cw had premiered the 100 the day after the flash premiered. The Flash really didn't need the extra exposure after arrow.
ReplyDeleteWhat are you expecting for the 100?
The Voice was severely down on Monday and reality shows have minimal timeshift gains so I am not sure that explains it.
ReplyDeleteThis season has been holding up quite well despite all the talk though. Mondays are down 17% and Tuesdays are down 13%, and I would actually cut the Monday editions some slack since it's facing Big Bang which it didn't have to do last year. Yesterday's drop was down 21% year to year though which was a somehow steep decline.
ReplyDeleteI am so sad for AoS. It is so good. I think they should do an Arrow and do a bunch of break neck speed episodes. With the introduction of Scandal and the likes, it looks like viewers like the shows which gives you whiplash with twists and turns through out the episode. AoS is relatively calm for an action show. That might be the problem. I enjoyed last episode where May and Coulson went as spies but I was asking when are they going to reveal the secret of these carvings? There is not much movement there. They need to wrap up stories fast and open new mysteries.
ReplyDeleteIf it does, it'll get a final 13 episodes season. Not too shaby, that's better than the CSI: Miami and CSI: NY treatment- cancelled with no resolution
ReplyDeleteTV world is the hardest among media; if a films ends up doing no money most of time they can stand as a self contained story. If a TV show is cancelled, there are big chances it ends up in a cliffhanger
ReplyDeleteIf they want to improve Arrow and Flash's ratings even more they should cast Jensen Ackles as Hal Jordan on the TV Universe Jajaja Don't think he is a good actor, but SPN is a fanbase who would follow him everywhere xD
ReplyDeleteI can't think of someone who Padalecki could play, but they should go for that jajaja Maybe Hawkman? xD
This season is actually insanely fast-paced compared to the first. If you watch yesterday's episode, which I just did, quite a few things move forward: Simmons being undercover (they actually went TOO fast with that IMO), Skye's dad, the secret carvings, and the unveiling of Mockingbird. If there was a way to get all the people who watched the pilot to watch an episode live now, the show would become an absolute smash hit. I think AoS has been irreversibly damaged in the ratings by the relatively weak first half of S1, which seems so unfair, because a lot of shows aren't that great at first. For the life of me I'll never understand how people are STILL watching stuff like Supernatural or Grey's Anatomy which is going in circles of the same storylines 10 years in, but won't give AoS the time of day.
ReplyDeleteIt literally doubled its lead-in's ratings, I just don't know how it can be expected to do well with those stupid comedies leading into it. They need to premiere another action/adventure series targeting a young male audience in the 8pm slot. Right now AoS is suffering from not being compatible with almost anything on ABC's schedule.
ReplyDeleteThank god for your comments on this topic, I need something to keep me calm about the show's future. Those AoS ratings are seriously depressing, it's like the numbers have the opposite trajectory to the quality of the show.
ReplyDeleteI hope ABC considers the fact that AoS is literally doubling its lead-in's ratings, which is no mean feat even if you don't put that much stock in the importance of lead-ins. Also, when it comes to the whole ABC/Marvel synergy, I've read that the show is an important asset for Marvel simply because it keeps the MCU being "the talk of the day", as it is, in the long months that pass between one movie and the next. People are constantly theorizing about possible tie-ins and crossovers between the show and future Marvel films, so even if the show is nowhere near as profitable as said films, it helps keep the overall Marvel buzz going.
Overall viewers are completely meaningless except for bragging in the network's press releases. It's the 18-49 age group that advertisers pay for.
ReplyDeleteI can see anywhere between a .5-.8 right now. Airing after an Arrow original *should* be a better position than after an Arrow repeat, even with baseball. But it still could be hurt by the limited series bad vibes. Sleepy Hollow and Under the Dome couldn't even match the previous finales. Even comparable short run Scandal couldn't match it's first season finale even with a massive lead in. The Following and Resurrection did manage to do better, but they both received their best lead ins ever for that to happen.
ReplyDeleteSorry for rambling so much. I guess a .6, hoping for .8
Hey!!! Don't diss Grey's Anatomy!! I still watch it LOL. Its mindless fun.:)
ReplyDeleteI agree. Season 2 is way superior to season 1. I am enjoying it very much. I loved all the new characters and Adrienne Padlecki as Mockingbird in last episode was awesome. The alien carvings started last season but it is still as much a mystery till yesterday's episode. I still think they should wrap up stories faster. I was disappointed by Jemma getting out of Hydra this soon. Some of my friends were put off by the season 1 ending with the way Garrett was put down and the meh way Coulson/Nick Fury confrontation was handled. They decided to leave the show after that. According to them in Arrow you feel there is actual danger where as in AoS you don't feel it.
Personally I am loving AoS from the moment they made Ward a hydra agent. But I don't feel the connection to AoS characters as much as I feel with Arrow or The Flash except for Fitz. I think it's because we don't know anything about the back stories or families of any of the characters other than Ward (I was not a fan of Ward and his brother story). Even though there are serialized elements in AoS, it sometimes still feels like a procedural where we don't have to connect much with characters.
Thank you for this comment. It makes me happy. I don't like to invest too much into a show that might get cancelled. I like AoS very much.
ReplyDeleteNo, what I meant was, how many episodes were ordered. Was it 13? 18? 22? The smaller the number, the easier it is to run them all, and, as we both are talking about, premiere something new in the spring. It could then still renew the show for next season if it wants to.
ReplyDeleteMaybe, at the same time, Marry Me doesn't get the back nine.
If this came to be, it could February and NBC might have no returning comedies on the air, except for Parks (and that kind of doesn't count all that much, since NBC isn't going to be terribly concerned about its placement). In other words, AAB, BJ, and AtZ aren't running. NBC is left with, what, UKS and One Big Happy? Mr. Robinson has 6 episodes.
It would almost be as if NBC scrapped everything and was starting over.
I guess that's the main difference between us. I feel connected to all of the characters on AoS - even Hunter is a lot of fun - while the characters on Arrow feel generic to me. Even someone who is very likable, like Diggle, just doesn't get enough development as his own person, while AoS is doing a terrific job of giving each character his or her time in the spotlight. No one is left out. And Coulson is just a much, much more likable lead than Oliver to me. Even though SA's acting just keeps getting better and better (that "I don't want to die down here" moment in the end of 3x02 was absolutely devastating and powerful), every time I think Oliver is getting likable, he acts like a sanctimonious and hypocritical ass again.
ReplyDeleteAoS being a procedural in the beginning definitely hurt it (the cases of the week were kind of boring), but since the Hydra reveal I feel it's been a full-on serial. Even the smaller stories they sometimes tell are connected to the big picture, like Absorbing Man in the first 2 episodes of this season.
I do however agree about the point you made regarding Simmons, I wish she would've stayed undercover longer. There was more they could've done with that storyline, instead they had both moles busted in the same episode.
The best thing Arrow does is when a season ends its like an end of the chapter. So new viewers can easily jump on to the show in the beginning of the season. Its difficult for AoS to get new viewers as audience will have to watch lots of old episodes to get through the mythology and characters like deathlok, Raina etc. Hunter is the best new character imo. Hunter and mac just gelled with the cast. Coulson is okay for me. Not a huge fan. I loved him in movies as he was there in small doses. I am excited about Skye's father and her origins. To think Skye was the worst character for me last season.:)
ReplyDeleteAs long as AoS is not cancelled I will be happy. I am liking all the comic book shows and am glad they are not competing on the same slot.
I hope next week POI does better. It deserves higher than a 1.5 as it is a quality show.
ReplyDeleteIt's a relief that The Flash and AoS aren't directly competing against each other - if we think the DC vs. Marvel wars are ugly now...
ReplyDeleteI think Skye still isn't one of my favorites, but she has improved dramatically. I gained a lot of respect of her after the Ward fiasco - I was terrified that she would make excuses for him and defend him because OMG, she's in loooooove! However, from the second she found out the truth, she's put her morals before her hormones and displayed nothing but contempt for the guy. Gotta appreciate that.
Overall, what frustrates me is that:
1. AoS just seems like a show that attracts a lot more vocal hate than Arrow or The Flash. Everything AoS on the internet has tons of negative comments which I don't see for Arrow, and while I'm biased here, I think it's objective enough to say that BOTH shows have a lot of stuff to criticize so it's unfair that only AoS gets the heat.
2. AoS keeps slipping and could end up in danger, while Arrow and The Flash are basically guaranteed 5 seasons. Okay, maybe it's a bit early to say that about The Flash, but imagine how much it would have to drop to cause concern. It could get renewed at half of its current numbers.
I am surprised NCIS NOLA is skewing younger than its parent show! I guess they don't totally share their audience.
ReplyDeleteCan anybody tell if POI did well?
ReplyDeleteI just don't see the appeal of NCIS and NCIS: New Orleans. I've tried watching a couple of their episodes and I just can't see why they get such high ratings. Leaves me cold. I think POI is vastly better....
ReplyDeleteI started loving Skye when she said I just threw up in my mouth to Ward. She was awesome in that episode.
ReplyDeleteInternet is the friend and enemy of these kind of shows. For Arrow internet is their friend and for AoS its their enemy. All these internet reviewers and critics are the reason for the fate of AoS. I have seen several reviewers and bloggers give scalding reviews to AoS after the 4 episode test they did in season 1. These people have lots of followers who take their opinion seriously. Is AoS considered to be an adult show or like OUaT it is a PG show? I think they should up the danger quotient and lower the humor in AoS like in episode 1. Lets hope AoS will stabilize after world series.