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Ratings News - 29th September 2014

29 Sept 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

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Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

unday 9/28/14 Metered Markets
Football Leads NBC to Victory; Animated Stunt Works for Fox

Household
Rating/Share
NBC 10.3/17
Fox 8.7/14
CBS 7.7/12
ABC 4.3/ 7

-Percent Change from the Year-Ago Evening – Sunday 9/29/13:
Fox: +38, CBS: +13, ABC: – 2, NBC: – 1

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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. The overnights, of course, are your first look at what to potentially expect when the other results come in. And we always take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

-Winners:
“Sunday Night Football” (NBC), “The OT” (Fox), “Madam Secretary” (CBS), “Once Upon a Time” (ABC), “The Simpsons” (Fox), “Family Guy” (Fox), “The Good Wife” (CBS)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
Nothing – year-to-year gains was a pattern for the regularly scheduled scripted programming.

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Ratings Breakdown:
The New Orleans Saints at the Dallas Cowboys on “Sunday Night Football” lifted NBC to victory with an estimated 13.5 rating/22 share in the household overnights from 8:30-11:30 p.m., which was 10 percent above the Pittsburgh Steelers at the Carolina Panthers match-up one week earlier (12.3/20 on Sept. 21). Earlier in the evening on NBC was pre-game “Football Night in America” at a 1.5/ 3 at 7 p.m. (#4), a 2.6/ 4 at 7:30 p.m. (#4) and an 8.6/14 at 8 p.m. (#2). With football on the agenda, expect NBC to rule Sunday in fourth quarter.

Over at CBS, results are estimated due to an approximate 15-minute late start caused by NFL Football. And the half-hour estimated breakdown is as follows:

CBS Sunday
7:00 p.m. Football / “60 Minutes”: 7.4/12 (#2)
7:30 p.m. “60 Minutes”: 7.9/13 (#2)
8:00 p.m. “60 Minutes” / “Madam Secretary”: 9.1/14 (#1)
8:30 p.m. “Madam Secretary”: 8.9/13 (#2)
9:00 p.m. “Madam Secretary” / “The Good Wife”: 8.4/12 (#2)
9:30 p.m. “The Good Wife”: 8.0/12 (#2)
10:00 p.m. “The Good Wife” / “CSI” (season premiere): 6.6/11 (#2)
10:30 p.m. “CSI” (season premiere): 5.8/10 (#2)

Particularly promising was this second episode of “Madam Secretary,” which dropped by only an estimated 13 percent from its week-ago Sunday 9-10 p.m. series opener (10.3/16), and that translated into 14.75 million viewers and a 2.0 rating/5 share among adults 18-49 (based on the Live Plus Same Day data). With more compatible lead-in support, “The Good Wife” increased from the year-ago season-opener (6.4/10 on 9/23/13) by 28 percent.

In a night of season-premieres, ABC opened with 7 p.m. clips show special “Once Upon a Time: Storybrooke Has Frozen Over” at a 3.1/ 5 (#3) in the household overnights. That led into a 5.5/ 8 (#3) for the fourth season-premiere of “Once Upon a Time” at 8 p.m., which was six percent above the 5.2/ 8 on the year-ago evening (which translated into 8.52 million viewers and a 2.6/ 7 in the demo, based on the Live + Same Day data). And the second season premiere of drama “Resurrection” scored a 4.8/ 7 at 9 p.m., which maintained 86 percent of the 8:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “Once Upon a Time” (5.6/ 8). Comparably, “Resurrection” was nine percent below the 5.3/ 8 for the year-ago season-premiere of former time period occupant “Revenge.”

Season four of “Revenge,” meanwhile, opened with a third-place 3.9/ 7 at 10 p.m., which 11 percent above the series-premiere of failed year-ago time period occupant “Betrayal” (3.5/ 6 on 9/29/13). Comparably, retention for “Revenge” out of the 9:30 p.m. portion of “Resurrection” (4.7/ 7) was adequate at 83 percent.

Over at Fox, an estimated 30-minute primetime football overrun (16.1/28 at 7 p.m.) led into a 16.4/27 (#1) for post-game “The OT.” Mirroring CBS, the overnight results for Fox, which was up by double-digit percentages, are approximate due to football.

In season-premiere news, the longest running scripted series in the history of television, animated “The Simpsons,” kicked-off season 26 with a 5.5/ 8 (#3t) in the 8 p.m. half-hour. Compared to the year-ago season-opener (4.4/ 7 on 9/29/13), this is a rise of 25 percent. And it led into the second season premiere of relocated (and critically acclaimed) live action comedy “Brooklyn Nine-Nine” at a 3.8/ 6 at 8:30 p.m. Comparably, this was 27 percent above “Bob’s Burgers” on the year-ago evening (3.0/ 5 on 9/29/13), with retention out of “The Simpsons” of 69 percent.

Next on Fox was the one-hour season-premiere of animated “Family Guy,” featuring the Griffins traveling to Springfield for a visit with the clan called Simpson, at a 5.4/ 8 from 9-10 p.m. (#3). Year-to-year, this was an increase of a hefty 59 percent in the overnights, which could translate into about a 4-rating among adults 18-49. Given the positive results, maybe the Simpsons could visit the Griffins next!

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


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225 comments:

  1. I guess that's good for Once, right?

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  2. I wasn't expecting much of a rise for OUAT but that's still disappointing, it was a truly amazing premiere though so I don't see it going down much.

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  3. I didn't expect any big increase for Once but being up year to year is positive. That is a series low overnight rating for Resurrection. It never went below a 5.0 and never dropped from Once until now. And this is the final season for Revenge.

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  4. Good for Madam Secretary! Will skew old of course, but still not bad.

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  5. Major Drop for Revenge from last season's premiere.
    Frozen didn't give OUAT any boost at all.

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  6. At least Once didn't drop from last year, so that's a good thing.

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  7. I hope Once gets at least 2.6 in the demo and does well enough this season to guarantee a 5th season renewal.
    As for Revenge, I think it's clear this season is the last season.

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  8. Revenge is now on an hour later, so yes, of course it dropped. It also has a weaker lead-in.

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  9. it is up from last year- I am pretty sure it gets a 5th season and probably a final 6th season like LOST

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  10. Yay for Family Guy/Simpsons Crossover!

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  11. Someone (can't remember who) said that CBS was apparently giving up on chance the younger crowds and would instead go for the older, wealthier, more educated crowds on Sundays, based on where MS was scheduled. This makes sense, since you can presumably make a lot of money doing that. But still, a 2.0 in the demo ain't terrible, and it looks to be helping TGW, so...

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  12. Please save revenge...this show is so good

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  13. Isn't it owned by Disney? Given the number of holes ABC has in its schedule (though, possibly less this season) and the fact that it skews young as well as being owned by Disney, it should be fine.

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  14. I'm pretty sure it'll get a 5th season as well but I really want it to go past 6 seasons, I love the show too much :P I'd like at least 8 seasons. There's plenty of stuff for them to work with for that long.

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  15. that's true as long as it stays in either high 1s and low to mid 2s it should be fine, plus it does good in the spring

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  16. So since doing the math betrayal premiered a 1.5 and revenge was 11 percent above that so I guess that puts it like at a 1.7-1.8

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  17. I guessing around 1.8 with 6,5 million which is not bad at all

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  18. it depends I mean it does higher than Nashville so I think its a toss up between the two-plus I think abc wants to reach 100 eps- so maybe a short 5th season

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  19. Once got a BIG pop in the demo though. It will be in the 3s.

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  20. Once will do better than that.

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  21. how about revenge? do you have the exact demo for once

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  22. if revenge stays around a 1.4-1.5 this season it shoud get a short 5th season

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  23. These are metered markets so the numbers can change a lot. That said, Once's metered markets number is 3.5. Revenge is 1.5.

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  24. How did Simpsons, Brooklyn 99 and Family guy do?

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  25. That's no that bad actually. If it can mantain a rating of 1.2 or higher, it should be fine.

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  26. Maybe it was somebody from CBS, Les Moonves or Nina Tassler perhaps? I can't remember having heard that statement, but I do remember that Tassler said a while back that Friday nights were more of a total viewers night than the demo. While this is of course Sunday and not Friday, CBS is still the most-watched network so they might go for total viewers on Sunday nights as well.

    And a 2.0 isn't terrible indeed. Madam Secretary will likely have dropped to a 1.6 or a 1.7, but that's still not so bad. Like you said, it seems to be helping The Good Wife also. While its premiere was down in the demo, it actually had its biggest audience since January 22, 2012.

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  27. As someone who quit OUAT Frozen didn't make me interested again. Not even Elizabeth Mitchell or Giancarlo Esposito can make want to watch again. The show still has the same problems.

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  28. Marc made no mention of "granddaddy" CSI! This has to be a first. Anyone know how this compared to last year's Wednesday premier? I had low expectations because: 1) death slot/delays; 2) TGW v CM, which would you rather have as a lead-in! OUAT - good that it's steady - hope demo numbers are solid; MS - CBS will have to hope it is "upper-income" draw, like TGW, if so, they may be willing to sacrifice demos for higher end audience.

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  29. I think it's safe as long as it keeps a rating higher than 1.2. I know Nashville needs another season for syndication, but I can see the show hitting sub 1.0s this season. As long as they give a proper conclusion to Revenge, I'm fine with it ending this year.

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  30. same - the concept of revenge is not something that can for very long

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  31. Christopher DeBono29 September 2014 at 15:15

    'In season-premiere news, the longest running scripted series in the history of television, animated “The Simpsons,”'
    Umm...I'm pretty sure some Japanese scripted shows started in the 60's and are still running today without break... (both animated and non-animated).

    Even only counting English shows, I believe the UK has one that lasted 30 years or something (summer wine I believe it was called?)

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  32. Pretty sure he is referring to US only.

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  33. It's also a starting point. Maybe it won't ever be TWD in the demo, but growth isn't impossible these days, even if it's harder.

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  34. Thats not true about Resurrection. It went as low as a 4.0 http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/04/ratings-news-14th-april-2014.html

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  35. Just metered markets. Simp 4.3. Brook 2.9. Fam 5.1.

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  36. Banged by Corey Stoll29 September 2014 at 15:37

    Once seems to be even with last year opening (around 2.6).
    I bet ABC was expecting something more, given the Frozen effect.

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  37. I agree but the metered early markets according to @edward, it was at a whopping 3.5. Of course that is subject to change, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the high 2s to low 3s. It must have skewed younger than last year's premiere.

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  38. Banged by Corey Stoll29 September 2014 at 15:42

    Oh, let's hope these early numbers are confirmed ;-)

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  39. Banged by Corey Stoll29 September 2014 at 15:44

    Hi, where did you get those early numbers?

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  40. Considering the HH I see hard for Revenge to break 2s, but it should do at least 1.7 or higher, and that's still good for the timeslot, plus it has good retation of Resurrection.
    Talking of which, it seems it's on the level it was on its last episodes, so maybe low 2s?
    And OUAT seems to have gather some momentum! High 2s or a 3.0 may be on sight.
    All in all it is a good night for ABC

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  41. That looks really good for B99 even with the drop off. Any numbers for Revenge? Pretty please?

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  42. Ouch at Revenge :(, hope it goes up from there, that's a low demo to premiere to!

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  43. that looks good for B99

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  44. 4.6, didnt remember that, thanks.

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  45. You can really tell anything about the demo from the HH ratings.

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  46. Isn't this Revenge Last Season anyway?

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  47. not confirmed but should be.

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  48. CSI came in #2 with a 5.8...

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  49. Nashville will be renewed for syndication

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  50. HOLY SH*T ARE YOU SERIOUS WITH OUAT?!? 3.4?!?

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  51. WOAH OUAT!
    I'm so happy for those numbers :D!
    If just everything on ABC could be that high!

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  52. MASSIVE for OUAT. It tied TBL's return.

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  53. OMG!!! A 3.4 ouat? thats amazing I'm glad thats its doing so well

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  54. It also had a viewership of around 9.4.

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  55. Please Revenge! Please skew young today!!!!!

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  56. I can't at OUAT's number. Let's see if these numbers will hold though.

    ABC is having a good week.

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  57. im so happy for ouat that just made my day! :)

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  58. Ressurrection at a 2.2., on par with the season finale.

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  59. Wow a 3.4?
    Amazing!
    ABC must be happy with premiere week...at least with most of the nights ;)

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  60. Woohoo! I guess all that insane promotion paid off for OUAT! Amazing ratings! They deserve it :)

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  61. I'm at shock with the OUAT numbers... I expected a 3.0 at best and even then I would be surprised, but a 3.4?! It hasn't hit such great ratings since fall 2012!!!!!!!!!
    Now, please! Please Revenge skew young today!

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  62. That's ok, stability is good, but considering the OUAT numbers it should have done better, but that's still fine

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  63. I'm beyond surprised! I was expecting no higher than 2.6 lol!

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  64. 8..4m and 4.5 A 18-49 for Family Guy

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  65. Madam Secretary fell down to a 1.4.

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  66. Considering The Simpsons crossover I'm not surprised.
    Family Guy will launch Mulaney just fine

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  67. 12.7m and 1.4A 18-49. for Madam Secretary. Dam it skews so frickin' old

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  68. And FOX finally has some good news.

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  69. I don't think these two shows share much of the same audience but still I hope Resurrection does well enough to get a third season.

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  70. That's pretty low for Revenge...

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  71. Revenge returned low for its season premiere, at around 1.4.

    Ouch.

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  72. Damn it Madam Secretary... I'm enjoying it.

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  73. Revenge doesn't deserve those ratings :(

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  74. 1.4 for Revenge is dangerously low for a season premiere. This should definitely be the final season :/

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  75. Damn it Revenge!!!!!!!! The premiere was so good, it's really sad to see it at those numbers :(.

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  76. Family Guy did a 6.1 on M18-34.

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  77. 9.3 millions & 3.4 for OUAT

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  78. thats sad poor revenge

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  79. Ok, I'm coming to accept it... this may be it for Revenge.
    I really, really wanted it to hit 100 episodes, ending with a 12 episodes 5th season, but now I just hope ABC gives a heads up in case they want to end it now. If so, at least the show will go out in a blast

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  80. do you see the numbers? What are they?? can't see them and it's freaking me out..............

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  81. the truest believer29 September 2014 at 16:18

    OMG congrats to Once ! that's awesome

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  82. Amazing for OUAT
    Decent for Resurrection
    Awful for Revenge.

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  83. It seems to be a 1.4, in line with the season finale

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  84. I haven't watched the season premiere yet (and don't know where I will) but it's definitely sad to see such a good drama in its first season go out like this. But oh well.
    I don't even know if I'll be watching this final season.

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  85. Perspective - ABC knows very well how hard it can be to launch a 10pm show. They remember last year. 1.4 isn't great but they had multiple shows that's premiered to less than that last year.

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  86. Great news for OUAT, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and Family Guy!

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  87. urgh WTF? if it keeps that way it will cancelled before the mid-season o__o

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  88. WOW at OUAT.


    Not the best start for Revenge.

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  89. so upset for revenge :( i guess this is it i will pretty much enjoy it while it lasts

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  90. should we expect some shifts regarding football?

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  91. I'm really glad that OUAT did so well and that B99 matched its series premiere numbers- obviously lifted by The Simpsons, but whatver-. But Revenge's ratings took all the joy away... seriously, I'm too bumbed right now... DAMN IT! This was the show that always premiered high!
    Now I can only pray to stay right where it is, but that's unlikely :(

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  92. Series high for B99! (excluding the Super Bowl)

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  93. wait wut? so you're telling me that 11M beyond 50 years old watch Madam S? wow

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  94. i don't get it the season finale for revenge was so good.

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  95. I just hope we get a final season for Revenge... Either they announce that S4 will be the final Season soon or give a short 5th Season order. I would hate it if a serialized show like Revenge will be cancelled with an cliffhanger =(

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  96. Amazing for Once!!!A 3.4& 9 million.Im soo glad it did so well.

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  97. Madame Secretary seems like MOL 2.0

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  98. Here are last nights 1/2hr breakdowns

    7:00 p.m.

    ABC – Once Upon a Time: Storybrooke Has Frozen Over
    Viewers: 4.90 million (#4), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#3)

    CBS – 60 Minutes
    Viewers: 8.43 million (#2), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#4)

    NBC – Football Night in America, part one
    Viewers: 6.23 million (#3), A18-49: 2.0/ 7 (#2)

    Fox – Football overrun
    Viewers: 20.66 million (#1), A18-49: 7.3/24 (#1)

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    7:30 p.m.

    ABC – Once Upon a Time: Storybrooke Has Frozen Over
    Viewers: 5.38 million (#4), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#3)

    CBS – 60 Minutes
    Viewers: 9.90 million (#2), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#4)

    NBC – Football Night in America, part one
    Viewers: 8.02 million (#3), A18-49: 2.7/ 8 (#2)

    Fox – The OT
    Viewers: 19.12 million (#1), A18-49: 6.8/21 (#1)

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    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – Once Upon a Time (season premiere)
    Viewers: 9.21 million (#3), A18-49: 3.3/10 (#3)

    CBS – Madam Secretary
    Viewers: 12.70 million (#2), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)

    NBC – Football Night in America, part three
    Viewers: 16.06 million (#1), A18-49: 5.7/17 (#1)

    Fox – The Simpsons (season premiere)
    Viewers: 8.50 million (#4), A18-49: 3.9/11 (#2)

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    8:30 p.m.

    ABC – Once Upon a Time (season premiere)
    Viewers: 9.46 million (#3), A18-49: 3.5/ 9 (#2)

    CBS – Madam Secretary
    Viewers: 12.62 million (#2), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (New Orleans Saints at Dallas Cowboys)
    Viewers: 21.42 million (#1), A18-49: 8.0/22 (#1)

    Fox – Brooklyn Nine-Nine (season premiere)
    Viewers: 5.45 million (#4), A18-49: 2.6/ 7 (#3)

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    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – Resurrection (season premiere)
    Viewers: 7.97 million (#4), A18-49: 2.4/ 6 (#3)

    CBS – The Good Wife
    Viewers: 11.47 million (#2), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (New Orleans Saints at Dallas Cowboys)
    Viewers: 21.81 million (#1), A18-49: 8.0/21 (#1)

    Fox – Family Guy (season premiere): crossover with The Simpsons
    Viewers: 8.08 million (#3), A18-49: 4.3/11 (#2)

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    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – Resurrection (season premiere)
    Viewers: 7.16 million (#4), A18-49: 2.1/ 6 (#3)

    CBS – The Good Wife
    Viewers: 10.92 million (#2), A18-49: 1.3/ 3 (#4)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (New Orleans Saints at Dallas Cowboys)
    Viewers: 19.72 million (#1), A18-49: 7.6/20 (#1)

    Fox – Family Guy (season premiere): crossover with The Simpsons
    Viewers: 8.70 million (#3), A18-49: 4.7/12 (#2)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC – Revenge (season premiere)
    Viewers: 5.50 million (#3), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#2t)

    CBS – CSI (season premiere)
    Viewers: 10.30 million (#2), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#2t)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (New Orleans Saints at Dallas Cowboys)
    Viewers: 19.36 million (#1), A18-49: 7.6/21 (#1)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC – Revenge (season premiere)
    Viewers: 5.01 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#2t)

    CBS – CSI (season premiere)
    Viewers: 9.02 million (#2), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#2t)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (New Orleans Saints at Dallas Cowboys)
    Viewers: 16.92 million (#1), A18-49: 6.8/21 (#1)

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  99. PLLrocksEvenWhenThisSeasonS...29 September 2014 at 16:22

    WOW, Once really deserved this ratings. I hope it continues to be strong, and to hold over a 2.5 for the rest of the season (wishful thinking), but I smell a renewal for it. :)))))

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  100. revenge even did worse then nashville. i hate that

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  101. Except that it's on CBS which is known to be the old skew network.

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  102. no way it gets cancelled by then. It's a veteran show, and they are almost always allowed to run their entire season order. ABC may announce that this is the final season, but it won't pull the plug until it airs every episode

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  103. That's beyond sad

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  104. Oh.... OUAT brought more people at 8.30.. o_o ........YES!
    thanks for those Andy:)

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  105. Wow apperantly a 2.6 for Brooklyn-Nine Nine? and i thought it would crash and burn on Sunday... I am so wrong^^

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  106. i know right. i guess all we could do is enjoy it while it lasts

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  107. DAMN! Revenge cant catch a break. fuck that low 1.4. It really deserves more.
    Frozen really helped OUaT look at that 3.4.

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  108. And OUAT is probably going to be adjusted up.

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  109. I already came to accept it... god, I'm going to miss this show so much :(

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  110. Wow, OUAT actually rose in 2nd half hour, impressive :)

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  111. FOX really made a smart move about B99. Sundays are the only thing working for them right now. Maybe Monays as well if Sleepy Hollow rises.

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  112. i seriously expected revenge to rise after a finale like that.

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  113. Betrayal premiered at 1.5 and then went to 0.7
    Though I don't think Revenge will go that low, I am quite worried about Revenge hitting 1.0s and maybe 0.9s

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  114. It completely was.

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  115. maybe its the fact that most people didn't like the idea of victoria narrating and david being alive

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  116. The reaction of the fanbase and the media said otherwise

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  117. Doubt that sh rises

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  118. i expect ouat had 2.9 or 3.1 but 3.4 really nice the final rating will be 3.5 i guess

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  119. looking at these ratings i don't care what revenge gets anymore as long as these writers look at these ratings and announce this season as its final season.

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  120. I hope Revenge adjusts up to at least match Betrayal premiere and Nashville season premiere. Those numbers are soul crushing!

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  121. Hopefully revenge adjusts to a 1.5 but abc really didn't promote It

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  122. The Good Wife's still the second most watched show of the night (not couting the football) it's a shame its demo is not so good. Madam Secretary did well.

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  123. Still, 2.0 is not bad. FOX has bigger problems.

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  124. yep, like Glee or their other comedies on Tuesdays...

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  125. Far bigger problems

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  126. don't know how that happened but well I'm not complaining at all lol.

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  127. Yep, David being alive is so BS. It's like they didn't know what else to do and thought, "Hey, let's make David alive:.

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  128. i was getting giddy about ouats ratings but then revenges ratings ruined it :(

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  129. I disagree: ABC did promote it, but it should have started early with the promotion. From S2 to S3 they hit the jackpot showing Emily get shot on the first week of August. Promotion for Revenge started near September this time around, and though the promos looked good, there wasn't something really grabbing like Emily being shot. Maybe they could have done some other approach, but we can't say ABC didn't promote it. Their promotion was innefective, that's all

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  130. Hopefully revenge can rise

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  131. Last time OUAT hit those numbers was on November 4th, 2012... :D

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  132. Yeah, I was so joyful and now I'm miserable :(

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  133. maybe if they left at 9 after ouat it would've done so much better

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  134. Resurrection is doing much better at 9 than Revenge, so that was a smart move.

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  135. We can hope; Revenge is completely unpredictable when it comes to ratings.
    I gave up last season when in the midseason finale it got a 1.5 and then it came back to a 1.8 in January with no lead in. And it withstood the Golden Globes and Football. So, who knows? The show has a track of surprising, but this isn't a good sign. Let's pray for better ratings- they may happen

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  136. Hi Dark ! Is it good for CSI ? As it is a new timeslot, I really don't know how to read those numbers ^^ Thanks in advance :)

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  137. It'm really glad to see OUAT back to its S1, early S2 ratings :)
    Let's hope it keeps them

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  138. Yep, I mean, it's going to go a little lower, but as long as it's not lower than 2.5 the show is more than safe :)

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  139. 3.4 is the confirmed number!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  140. Arguably, the show was safe even if it returned more or less where it left off.

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  141. We won't know for sure; last season Revenge held almost all of OUAT premiere (2.6 for OUAT, 2.3 for Revenge) so maybe it would have had better retention that Resurrection, but it's actually impossible to say; it may have bombed either way or not

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  142. abc only started to promote revenge towards the premiere.

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  143. Well they are CSIs lowest every ratings numbers but it's the first time they are on Sunday so we really cannot until we have 3-4 weeks of ratings data.

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  144. well if it returned like Revenge with its season finale's ratings... considering it would go lower throughout the season, the show would not have been safe.

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  145. I wonder what OUAT's season low in ratings will be this season...I hope it at least stays above 2.5, after a jump that big anything could happen though, Frozen is clearly the main reason for the spike, they might jump ship when that storyline is finished.

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  146. That's what happened with AoS, but ABC actually had teasers and a promo by the start of September. They should have started early and maybe gone differently with their approach, but at least they didn't completely ignore it like AoS or Resurrection

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  147. I do hope the 3-month break will bring more people than ever!

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  148. because it's against CSI... This show is still strong for its 15th season !

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  149. OUAT's finale ratings last year was 2.3, right? I don't think it would be that shabby for ABC.

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  150. I meant in season 1's ratings included.

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  151. My guess is that some episode will go as low as 2.1 and maybe even 2.

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  152. if OUAT does a good enough job, most viewers should stick.

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  153. Well at least Glee is ending (thank god).

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  154. It would have been just fine. ABC must be over the moon for restoring OUAT to its former glory- even if it only has Frozen to thank for that.
    Now if only Revenge... ugh, I have to stop doing that, it will only make me sadder

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  155. Yep but as I said, it would've gone lower and lower throughout the season and maybe hit 1.7-1.8s and then ABC would've started to worry but let's not talk about things that didn't happen and focus on the great numbers OUAT brought us!

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  156. Idk if OUAT's 3.4 is restoring it to its former glory. Let's wait and see how week 2 goes.

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  157. Oh, then sure, it did better than Revenge at 9PM, so it did make sense that they kept it there.

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  158. Nah, don't think CSI is the problem here for Revenge.

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  159. Great for OUAT,it will most probably get adjusted up as it often does.Poor revenge,i dread to think what it's season low would be!This would be it's last season!

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  160. Well I suppose that's still pretty good for a season low, I hope it doesn't drop that far and then stay there though or even drop more in S5 (assuming it's renewed)

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  161. And 1.7-1.8 is just fine if most other shows hit the same or around.

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  162. Yeah, I hope so too. If this is going to be the last season, pull out the big guns! I want a season of blazing fire of war of Emily and Victoria!

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  163. I mean.... they could do the Revenge of the Duke of Weselton.. right?

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  164. If Nashville's episode order gets trimmed to 13 assuming the ratings continue to decline, it won't get renewed for season 4.

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  165. I didn't say it was bad, I said 1.7s would have ABC worrying.

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  166. I hope so, 4A looks to be more than good enough to hold on to viewers and with Maleficent returning in 4B that should be very good too, the only thing that could ruin is when The Knave arrives, personally though I'm looking forward to his arrival :)

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  167. Unless it pulls a surprise uptick- and with this show you never know-, then yeah... this is it.
    But I'd be ok with it as long as it is announced ASAP so that the writers start preparing a great final season

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  168. the best thing that they could do for this show is make this announce this as the final season, so that way we won't have to worry about ratings anymore

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  169. At this point, yeah, I'd rather have that. I can't bite my nails every Monday while waiting for the ratings

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  170. Me too,a proper ending is all i need.I have no problem watching this season as final.

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  171. Maybe American Crime will help Revenge in march ?

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  172. my expectation werent that high i wanted Revenge to be more than 1.5, if it got 1'8i was gonna be beyond happy. but c'mon 1.4 is devastating, how this show that started so good in ratings is going down horribly. I just hope it stays like this for the entire season i really dont want it to hit 1's o .9's...

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  173. Haha, never gave this show a chance so... won't miss it.

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  174. i doubt by then revenge will probably be deader then dead

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  175. Revenge was against CSI in 2011.

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  176. And CSI won the timeslot.

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  177. I am devastated by Revenge's ratings. So sad how underrated this show is.


    In another news, I am over the moon with how well B99 and OUAT did. OUAT is such a pleasant surprise. I was expecting it to beat last year's season premiere, but I didn't count on it getting back to the 3s in such a big way! So great!

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  178. Not an OUaT fan but... respect. For a show to reach a height it hasn't seen in nearly 2 years is damn impressive.

    That being said: all summer, we complained that ABC was focusing all of its promotion on TGIT and OUaT and ignoring everything else. Now look at the ratings. This just proves that if you promote and have a decent hook (like Frozen/Shonda), people WILL watch. Networks need to stop throwing their less-successful shows to the wolves because "yeah, it's doomed anyway".

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  179. Sad about Revenge. Its creative ups-and-downs notwithstanding, I have a soft spot for that show. Barring a miracle in the next few weeks, ABC should just announce this the final season and give Sunil Nayar and co. the time needed to write towards a kick-ass, satisfying finale.

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  180. I agree. Resurrection barely got promotion so I'm surprised it got a 2.2. I was expecting lower that with the little promotion the show got. I just hope it keeps getting low 2s.

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  181. Revenge is so done and over with. Stick a fork in it already. After s1, it's been heading downhills. David Clarke alive is a joke. And also the one thing Revenge creator and former showrunner did NOT want. Easy to understand why. I don't even like Emily anymore. And I am just plain allergic to Victoria and Daniel. S3 was my finale.

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  182. im not surprised resurrection had a good lead in. even if they didn't promote it the lead in helped it

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  183. Yeah and ironically, sometimes final season announcements help the ratings a bit because they generate buzz and pique the interest of past viewers who stopped watching at some point.

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  184. It will rise. Just wait. haha

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  185. I was skeptical about the Frozen additions but I really enjoyed the premiere and I hope new fans stick around. Still, even as a HUGE fan of Frozen, the best moment in the whole episode had nothing to do with it.

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  186. i could see how everyone just wanted this show to end. if they announced this as its final season then I'm pretty sure it would've done much better

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