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26 Aug 2014

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28 comments:

  1. Graydon26 August 2014 at 04:08

    Loved it.

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  2. CGS26 August 2014 at 04:25

    It was a really exciting episode... yet I am totally lost on the how that computer worked, or did anything or interacted with the internet since it predated the internet. And I missed where they explained how it even got in the wall at all.


    I wonder if these next two episodes will explain any of that or if they're just going to focus on Peter trying to be the Big Bad again.

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  3. Tyler_James2926 August 2014 at 04:37

    Loved that it aired a day early... hate that it means waiting an extra day for the next episode!

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  4. ivan26 August 2014 at 06:33

    ecstatic that stiles and malia are back together, they're so cute together, wow scott's transformation horrifying, surprised that peter inadvertently created created the dead pool

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  5. Cor Malum26 August 2014 at 06:38

    Looked like the messages sent by that computer were using an old, purely text-based Telnet protocol. That was already in use in the 1970's...as was Arpanet, the predecessor of our current-day internet.

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  6. NiceGuyVan26 August 2014 at 07:02

    Melia and Stiles made up, well that's good news. And they finally put a stop to the damn dead pool.
    Time for the lurking evil to attack now I guess. Peter and Kate

    It
    was funny when it turned out Peter stole his own money, but his vision
    also has some valid points. Just like humans do everything they can to
    survive the few supernatural also has the same right to do what they can
    to survive and if that means not backing away from a fight then so be
    it. But if they take the first step to kill then they would be in some
    wrong.

    And Scott almost went full on monstrous form.
    Good
    that he didn't kill him in that situation, but I sort of pissed they
    made it seem like he was going to the wrong thing. When anybody and
    everybody is killing without hesitation with out knowing the full story
    and you can't even get back at them without looking like the bad guy...
    shiit.
    Also good to know he can take bullets without phasing him much.

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  7. Graydon26 August 2014 at 07:28

    Yeah Scott's getting pretty badass. He can take bullets, overcome electricity, mountain ash and beat the shit out if random mercs.

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  8. NiceGuyVan26 August 2014 at 07:41

    Add keeping up with a Car. Don't forget that, must means he is extra fast.
    Ep 6, just after he got a Beserker claw out of his stomach at Deaton's vet facility, he and Chris Argent both head for a warehouse, and instead of riding in a car with Chris, apparently he rapidly leaps his way there arriving at the same time. At the time I went wtf...

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  9. prpleight26 August 2014 at 07:44

    That’s how you do it Kira. You focus on the enemy in front of you *until* they are neutralized. You don’t turn to grin at your boyfriend until after you are *certain* they’ve been neutralized.

    Scott gets major points for how he dealt with Liam. He never shamed him or belittled his fear. He simply offered to take the kid home. I am changing my mind about Liam in terms of his existence. Liam shows us another side of Scott. We get to see Scott’s natural talent as a nurturer. It underlies the fact that Derek is a better War Chief than he ever was an Alpha.

    Best line of the ep: “Not to question the unquestionably sterling reputation of your department but, are you absolutely sure you’ve got the one?” LOL

    Finally an age on Meredith. 16 in 2009 she’s 21 now. (But the DOB on the file was wrong. for her to be 16 in 2009 she would have had to be born in 1993 not ’98) [and yes I am slightly obsessive. :-) ] But I’ve been trying to figure this out since they said she new Lydia’s Grandmother.

    So an insane teenaged girl spent weeks, possibly months, listening the rants of a lunatic in throes of agony induced mania. Does that fit the definition of brainwashing? Of course it never occurs to her that she’s listening to insanity.

    Did they break the rules of the quiet room or is it only truly quiet if you’re a banshee?

    You know, at least Peter’s not saying he’s completely sane. Just ‘healthier’. ha.

    It has always been my belief that it is okay to kill off the moron who wanders through foggy battlefield yelling…then tops that off by helpfully freezing in place when a bad guy points a gu nat her. Geez.

    Yey! Someone found a programming (or scripting) manual and altered the broadcast message. Probably Meredith since she had to figure out how to program the system to send instructions in the first place. :-D

    Okay, so standing over Jennifer’s body at the end of season 3B Peter declared himself the alpha…was that (and Meredith’s statement tonight) more figurative than literal? I have been trying to figure that out for 22 episodes. I’m checking the ‘Confused in the last 3 mins’ bingo box cause I’m confused on this point. :-D

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  10. Graydon26 August 2014 at 07:49

    So looking forward to him and Peter fighting now.

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  11. prpleight26 August 2014 at 07:50

    A lot of the email protocols still exist within the current protocols. Usenet is still around. Wouldn't be too difficult to write an application to forward the plain text data to modern protocals/formats and/or systems.

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  12. prpleight26 August 2014 at 07:54

    Which is why I was so darned frustrated at the beginning of the season when it felt like the directors and writers forgot about all of that. He's way more fun when he's being badass. :-D

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  13. Graydon26 August 2014 at 08:24

    Wouldn't say they forgot. It was just planned out so that the Scott becoming more of a monster arc would see his power rising in time for the inevitable showdown with Peter. As shown in 3B, Scott fears giving into to his werewolf instincts and therefore is very reluctant to do so and can't get the strength he needs. But as we saw with the electricity in episode 1, the heated wire in five, and the last few episodes the writers clearly haven't forgotten. True he is more fun. But I've always liked Scott anyway, Tyler Posey for all of his faults and weaknesses as an actor (particularly in the first season, ugh he was bad) is really likeable. What I wonder now, is what will push Scott over the edge and led him to embrace his power?

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  14. prpleight26 August 2014 at 09:59

    In hind sight I see the plan you're referring to. But for me the setup could have been handled better. The fight sequences in the first couple of eps didn't seem to be touching on the idea that Scott was holding himself back from reaching his full potential... they felt like the fight choreographer forgot that there was a werewolf in the fight.


    I do have to say I like the way you describe the end-game ...Scott embracing his power so he can fight Peter. Makes me feel better about some of what I see coming over the next couple of episodes.


    I also like Tyler Posey and he has grown as an actor over the course of the show. But I can see awards in Dylan O'Brien's future.

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  15. Cor Malum26 August 2014 at 13:07

    I think you might be underestimating the work involved in writing an application like that. Those old mainframes needed to be programmed in COBOL, FORTRAN or Assembler. And neither Usenet nor Email existed in the 1970`s. Neither did TCP/IP (i.e., no IP addresses and such for routing). It would probably have been less work to reprogram everything on a modern PC than to work with that old dinosaur. Of course, finding a modern pc or laptop that was running the Benefactor program wouldn't have been nearly as creepy...

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  16. Sarah26 August 2014 at 16:52

    If anyone looked monstrous at any point in this episode, it was Scott. I don't know what that was about. Points to Satomi for being honest about the fact that werewolves are dangerous creatures, but so are humans. Does anyone know what the deal was with that yellow plant? I keep thinking maybe I missed an episode where that was explained.

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  17. gladius26 August 2014 at 20:45

    overcomplicated...was peter aware of all this or not? At the police station he seemed surprised, when talking to kate he seemed to know everything about it. How doees kate fits into the plan? Did he know back when he was burnt that he would kill her, and years later make her break into his own vault? It all just dont make sense. Dissapointment, that what this reveal was...

    Who built that secret computer room? And how exactly Llydia's grandma was the part of all of this? I still dont get it.

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  18. prpleight27 August 2014 at 08:05

    I don't think Peter was aware at all. Seemed a little unfair of them to say 'he came up with the plan and simply didn't remember it' He was in agony after having been burned over a significant area of his body. Being burned is one of the most painful injuries out there. Peter was laying there, in agony, locked inside his own mind and ranting. Not his fault.


    I read the scene between Kate and Peter as Peter trying to process what happened. Kate knew about because Peter had only *just* told her about it. Not that she'd known about it all along.


    Lydia's mother, who had worked as a computer programmer in the 70s, built the computer room. She had a premonition of all those deaths (as well as the attempted murder of Lydia) before she died.....sometime in 2009 or after.

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  19. jonjokeat27 August 2014 at 09:20

    I think you've pretty much got it prpleight :D The mainframe computer at the lakehouse may date from the seventies but we shouldn't underestimate how long they stuck around. In the late eighties and early nineties I was writing bridging software for companies who were (very slowly) modernizing. The software linked the old (mainframe) communications systems with the first pc based email systems so as the new pc based networks were introduced employees could (seemlessly -I like to think) communicate with those still using the old systems. omg I'm so old ;p

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  20. jonjokeat27 August 2014 at 09:46

    I enjoyed this episode, some explanation and quite a lot of action. Peter at the sheriff's dept was brilliant and Meredith's certainty that she had been doing the right thing was very believable. And I love Lydia taking control :D
    I also want to add a mention for Derek's selflessness, no longer on the list, no longer supernaturally powerful but always willing to step up and protect others.
    And yet again it was Stiles who saved the day by shutting down the computer (albeit with a little help from his friends).

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  21. Cor Malum27 August 2014 at 10:21

    "Writing bridging software" And that was no work at all, was it? ;-) According to the timeline of the story, the Hales' house was burned down less than 10 years ago (i.e., in the 2000s). If Peter was the instigator of the Benefactor plan, then why would anyone still use an old mainframe to implement it? Or was Lydia's grandma still alive at the time of Peter's coma? Maybe she had kept that old mainframe around as a memento and for a hobby; and Meredith then got her to use it to implement the Benefactor plan. I admit that I haven't been paying much attention to the details of the timeline recently.

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  22. Cor Malum27 August 2014 at 10:58

    The question of who programmed the Benefactor software and when this was done still bothers me. So you're saying that Lydia's grandmother wrote the program in pre-PC times because of a premonition she had way back then? I've been thinking that the plan was programmed after the fire at the Hale house. Maybe I need to rewatch the last two episodes...

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  23. Sarah27 August 2014 at 15:34

    Oh wow. I wonder if Alison's father is planning to do anything with that besides hide it.

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  24. prpleight27 August 2014 at 18:18

    Makes me feel better that the "old" club is getting bigger. :-)

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  25. prpleight27 August 2014 at 18:24

    Thanks to the hospital admittance scene we have a year for the Hale fire. 2009. My thought is that the computers were maintained by her until she was committed to Eichen House because she had them there for her paranormal research.


    Grandma could have been at the house to encode the list and set up that software before she died? That could have been why she escaped from Eichen House. That timing could also cover all of the software necessary. Meredith would just have to run the related programs. (this aspect of a potential timeline just occurred to me.

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  26. prpleight27 August 2014 at 18:27

    lol...I just replied to you above...that it just occurred to me that she wrote the software this century when she broke out of Eichen house. My theory being that''s why she was in the house when she died.

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  27. Cor Malum27 August 2014 at 19:51

    I think you're right. There's no way she did it before the 1990's, for example. Software from that far back would not have been able to access and control Liam's printer. The question is, though: Do Jeff and his writers know that?

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  28. jonjokeat28 August 2014 at 13:37

    Timelines seem to get really dodgy in teen wolf but I think you've got the likeliest scenario here.

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