Echoing that which series lead Stephen Amell shared with TVLine at the may Upfronts, the Arrow EP said that the next Big Bad will “feel different” from Season 2′s Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke. That said, the incoming adversary “has some personal elements of connectivity to Oliver, which we’ll learn about” — in part via flashbacks, Berlanti allowed. “Hopefully, fans of the DC Universe will be really pleased by who it is.”
Speaking of the show’s flashback device, Berlanti said that Season 3 will “not just flash back from Oliver’s perspective.” As the hit drama has done on rare occasion with the likes of Laurel and Diggle, “There’s some backstory stuff that’s going to come out for some of the other characters.”
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I'm actually disappointed that yet another big bad will have a significant connection to Oliver's past. Arrow keeps pushing Oliver to be a full-fledged hero but how can he possibly do that when all the main villains he has to stop have ties to his family or his past? It always seems like he's cleaning up his own mess or making up for his family's mistakes instead of stopping a bad guy he genuinely had no part in creating or bringing to Starling City.
ReplyDeleteHmm... "personal elements of connectivity to Oliver" I wonder is Tommy actually did manage to survive somehow and spent all last season somewhere else trying to think of a way to get revenge on Oliver for leaving him there to die....
ReplyDeletethe producer say some some personal connection.......it probably won't be as significant as Slade Wilson......we don't know how personal that will be........it too vague right now
ReplyDeleteFelicity and Capt Lance??? Ew! Haha. I expect we'll get plenty of Felicity backstory.
ReplyDeleteI want to see Vegas Felicity, or maybe MIT Felicity.
ReplyDeleteYeah it's too vague. My first thought was Connor Hawke though.
ReplyDeletewe have zero clue who her father is........some speculate it is Anthony Ivo......but that just cause tension btw feliciity and oliver!
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't diminish his role as a hero.
ReplyDeleteHe's five (if it's him). I doubt any villain would be connected to Connor.
ReplyDeleteGot a feeling S3 will be quite different overall. I hope they don't lose themselves by trying to much and connecting the show to the Flash.
ReplyDeleteI know the big bad won't disappoint me, I could see even Amanda be the BB or his assistant. Diggle needs to take over Argus.
No real clues about Thea and Roy and their stories. Ohh this summer break is so hard on me. Withdrawal is a Bit*h!
For me that ship has sailed. I always got the impression from EPs that her father is alive. I was always wondering why they introduced the fact that her father left with Nyssa's appearance in Starling. Yes my imagination went through the roof with that fact.
ReplyDeletewe already have some clue about Roy........the serious consequences of his action when he killed a police officer in season 3.......
ReplyDeleteIn your opinion, sure, but to me it does.
ReplyDeleteYES! I am dying to know other character's perspectives!!
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't be so bad if it ended up being Waller/A.R.G.U.S. IMO, since the finale ended with her showing up in Hong Kong.
ReplyDeletedo you think it's possible that this flashbacks might be a way for the show to make the 5 years of Oliver(island and not) last more than 5 season? maybe they are a way to show more of others and less of Oliver's?
ReplyDeleteI almost forgot about what happened in Seeing Red, but what clue did we get? I didn't read any spoilers about that.
ReplyDeleteTommy was already dead when Oliver left besides if he wants to blame someone he can blame Malcolm who caused the earthquake or Laurel for being in the office and also Laurel was there after Oliver left so she was the last one to see Tommy so technically she is the one who didn't realize he was still alive and left him to die, and the most important thing is that I loved Tommy and he died a hero and the second season was about honoring his memory I don't want him to come back and be an evil psychopath plotting against his best fiend.
ReplyDeleteI'm always happy to see flashbacks for someone other than Oliver.
ReplyDeleteHow? He saves the city, takes responsibility for his wrongs and sins, and demonstrates consistently that he will do everything he can to save Starling City and protect it's people. If that's not a hero to you, then I don't know what is.
ReplyDeleteIt diminishes it because he and his family bring all that mess to Starling City's doorstep in the the first place. Is the way he goes about making up for it heroic? Sure, but as long as he's continually cleaning up his own mess and that of his family instead of going after problems he had nothing to do with causing then his heroics will always be tarnished.
ReplyDeleteBy that logic Batman's not a hero, nor are most superheroes. Superheroes deal with with own messes constantly, it's part of what makes a hero. That they're able to atone for past mistakes and never stop fighting for what they believe in. He has gone after problems he's had nothing to do with, he stopped Vertigo, he defeated Cyrus Gold, China White, Firefly and so many others. Are his actions tarnished at times, sure but every hero goes through that, but that doesn't take away the drive, or selflessness to make his city better than makes Oliver a hero.
ReplyDeleteI don't think this person will be someone like Slade. My guess is that it's someone who he met briefly while being in Hong Kong but he didn't do anything to him like Slade.
ReplyDeleteI don't know where you got the idea that this was an either/or proposition but, for some reason, you decided to run with it and have a conversation with yourself because I never said Arrow wasn't a hero. I said his heroics were tarnished. He's ultimately not the complete hero he could be because he's consistently fighting to stop things he was directly or indirectly the impetus for causing and that's the way it will stay until the writers get him out of that cycle. Thank god for the cases of the week (that unfortunately stopped toward the end of the season) because that's where Oliver's pure heroism shines through.
ReplyDeleteI honestly don't know what their intentions are for Waller but I wouldn't be surprised to see her end up a bad guy.
ReplyDeleteThat's fine, as long as the reason that person ends up in Starling City isn't Oliver Queen.
ReplyDeleteWell he's either a hero or he's not.
ReplyDeleteSuperheroes have been living in grey areas for a long, long time, so saying "he's either a hero or he's not" only describes a hero as you define him/her which I obviously don't subscribe to and, seemingly, neither do most superheroes these days.
ReplyDeleteOf course they've been living in grey areas, Green Arrow has killed in the comics many times, Batman almost beat the Joker to death when he thought he killed Thomas Elliot, Iron Man constantly struggles alcoholism, Roy Harper was addicted to heroin, and has had many personal problems and issues, but that's what makes them flawed, human and in many cases heroes. They aren't perfect, but the ability to continue to fight to better the world in spite of their mistakes is why these characters are so heroic. I'm not a fan actually of silver age heroism, or pitch perfect morality all the time, what I'm trying to say is characters like Oliver Queen on Arrow are heroes because in spite of overwhelming odds, or mistakes they committed which influenced the actions of Deathstroke pick themselves up and continue to fight against such enemies, because a part of them believes in helping others, and doing what's right for the sake of doing so.
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