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POLL : What did you think of Dominion - Pilot?

20 Jun 2014

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79 comments:

  1. An hour and a half running with limited commercials, now that's something.


    I wasn't much of a fan of the movie, but I liked how they've turned this show to something more. Also, I liked the description in the beginning through the visual paintings such as biblical ones

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  2. Loved it (again)! Can't wait for next week!

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  3. It was sometimes hard to follow, but it was pretty good. I'll definitely tune in next week.

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  4. I loved it as well I'm rewatching it as we speak I can't wait until next weeks episode hopefully time goes by fast.

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  5. Great start. I loved it. I have several favorite scenes.


    The show has already shocked me: William is Gabriel's son! Did I hear that right? :o


    Can't wait for next week!

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  6. I liked the description/narration at the beginning too.

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  7. promising start overall, I will say that there was some uneveness in the feel of the ep for me in that most of the characters came off flat - particularly Alex and ASH 's accent was a bit odd at times, but I do like Michael's character and am looking forward to his interaction with Gabriel in the future. I expect that everything will improve and smooth out in the forthcoming eps and am looking forward to seeing their vision of angel lore in this story

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  8. By expression what do you mean? That Gabriel has plans for him?

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  9. SophieTheFrenchy20 June 2014 at 09:50

    you can watch it online ! ;) that's what I do since I live far from north america ! ;D Let me know if you need a link...

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  10. Sassy Angel ☆20 June 2014 at 09:56

    I loved it, it's so great to have a show focused on something else than Vampires and Werewolves.
    I love Michael's character, the fight at the end was really well done.
    The story is good, Alex is a good likeable hero, and I completely fallen in love with his friendship with Bixby, these two were adorable, if Alex and Claire end up together, I want them to adopt Bixby and live happily for the rest of their lives.
    Speaking of romantic relationships, I find Alex and Claire really cute together, but Michael and Becca's relationship is more appealing to me, more special, I just love forbidden love like that, where they can't do it but can't help it.

    Anyway, it was a great pilot and I can't wait to see the second episode.

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  11. Yeah I kinda like it as well. I feel it's a close second to the awesomeness of ABC Family's Fallen miniseries' intro.

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  12. I have had the screener for this for a month but didn't have a chance to actually watch it, lol

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  13. My Heart's Mirror20 June 2014 at 12:03

    I'm actually torn between those two possibilities. On one hand, we have Michael, who confirmed it was very much possible to have a half-human child in his universe (it could have been foreshadowing). But there's also Tony Head's character and his "the angels took everything from us, and there are idiots who still worship them". I guess it could go in both directions. I'm more inclined to believe that William's not Gabriel's son, Gabriel's exploiting his weaknesses, and calling him his son to show the difference between a 'loving' angel and someone as cold as his 'real', human father. He's pretty much giving him what he needs, treating him like he is his son when he's not, and in return, William's his little spy.
    Personally, it'd actually prefer it if Gabriel wasn't his father. According to the interviews, Gabriel thinks that once he wipes out all the humans, God will come back. If he slept with one of the reasons for God's disappearance, even if it was for nefarious purposes, it'd still weaken him as a character. I like my villains multidimensional, and I don't want him to be a bad guy. I want him to be a bad guy with a twisted logic behind his actions.

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  14. SophieTheFrenchy20 June 2014 at 12:22

    WOW what amazing pilot !! I haven't been that excited for a pilot in forever !! I LOVED IT !! it felt like watching a movie !! can't wait for the next episode !

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  15. Absolutely LOVED it!! Also nice to have Alex see a picture of his mother and keep it. Can't wait to see more. Really HOPE TPTB don't cancel this after a few episodes... (The Powers That Be for anyone who didn't know, meaning SyFy

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  16. I am well acquainted with downloading, just always nice to see it the night of on my tele :). Merci for the advice

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  17. It was surprisingly boring and bad for a show about a war against angels.

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  18. Amazing ! I really love it and hope it will keep it promises because this pilot was awesome !

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  19. Mukalya Mwangala20 June 2014 at 15:38

    Is Alex Michael's son? In the beginning Michael was talking about not producing more like him?? So, did he produce Alex?

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  20. I watched that too. It was one of my favorite things on TV at that time. Really liked it.

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  21. Alex's father is unknown, Jeep is his adoptive father, then Michael looks out for him when Jeep left on his mission.


    Michael was just saying he didn't want to have children. Half angels are called Nephilim, and they were monsters in the bible. I don't know how the show would portray a Nephilim, but it sounds like they wouldn't be good on the show either. Michael doesn't want to have a child that could harm the humans.

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  22. I now kinda understand why the miniseries ventured a bit far from the books as obviously the author was still in the middle of finishing the series, among other reason. I got a hold of last year's release of the final book in the Fallen series and I really liked how it ended (yes, it really took THAT long for Thomas Sniegoski to finish it all). ABC Family dropped the ball on Fallen by not making more episodes.


    Watching Dominion's pilot actually brought me back to the imagined world I created from reading the Fallen books. It had that effect on me as a first impression so I'm really hoping it stays that way.

    :D

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  23. Mukalya Mwangala20 June 2014 at 18:01

    Thanks for the explanation, BlueStar (CP), much appreciated.

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  24. How did it end can you share the differences between the series and the book? I never read it so I don't know what things were different or things they shared.

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  25. I like the premise, and for the most part the acting was alright, but the dialogue was a tad too heavy handed for my taste. I realize that in a pilot the backstory needs to be laid out a bit to give us context, but they didn't have to have the character explain things like they did. Example: When the Senator was speaking to his son saying that so-and-so were the only people left that had certain technology.(my paraphrase) Things like that would not be being told to one character by another because more than likely both characters would know these facts. It was obvious that the line dropped in there for the audience to get info. To me a good show will show these things, rather than tell us.

    Don't get me wrong, I didn't find the pilot terrible, but so far just OK. Things like the dialogue issue could be tightened up easily. Also maybe it was just the pilot trying to download as much info as possible in the two hours it had to do so. So the verdict for me is still out...

    P.S. I find the idea of the little girl (as cute, and feisty as she may be) to be an annoyance, and it takes away from the story a bit just for the sake of having light-hearted moments. This is one of my issues with SyFy shows in general. It is an NBC/Universal media conglomerate thing. It's like they have to have a child in every dark show to lighten it up a bit.

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  26. Part 1 of the mini-series was based off of the first book and there were a number of omissions made:


    1)Aaron's foster parents were murdered by a male Virchiel (made a woman in the show),
    2)Virchiel was a recurring character that was eventually redeemed towards the end of the book series (yes, he did sort of "ascended"),
    3)Stevie, Aaron's foster brother who's a special child, was kidnapped and was transformed into a brainwashed and aged-up warrior,
    4)Vilma had a more prominent role in the rest of the books compared to damsel-in-distress status in Book 1,
    5)Lucifer was a more sympathetic character compared to how he was portrayed by Bryan Cranston. Lots of surprises will happen down the road for this particular character.
    6)Gabriel developed angel-like abilities apart from just being able to think like a human.

    The rest of the mini-series was a complete stand-alone from the books but retained certain plot details including Camael's death. The books certainly has a lot of jam-packed goodies (they will play with your emotions as a reader, I can assure you that) but the miniseries isn't really half bad considering when it was made.

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  27. To reference Fallen (again), Nephilims were considered abominations in angel mythology, having been products of humans and angels who fell from God's grace. They possess both qualities derived from their humanity and their angelic heritage, which, in the context of that show, were seen by high-ranking angels as a corruption of the purest form.

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  28. Oh, I know the miniseries isn't bad because I really loved it but I can say that Dominion is so much better and I can't wait to see next weeks episode.

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  29. Yeah the lore varies. Some books/movies/shows portray them as looking like humans with angel powers, others go with the they're monsters mythology. I've watched Fallen where they were just abominations to the angels, and then read a book where they were true monsters.

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  30. No problem. :)

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  31. I didn't know they were planning on more episodes.


    I loved the main character Aaron and his dog Gabriel, etc. but I think not having Camiel around for more episodes would have been disappointing for me.

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  32. Oh yeah, I forgot to answer your actual question: Earth was devastated after recovering from a long prophesied war between the forces of Good against evil led by Satan. Good won, Aaron and Vilma are finally back in each other's arms and someone's epic story ended in hell, like seriously, it did.

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  33. So basically like the mini-series ending except for the Earth being devastated part.

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  34. ABC Family was, at the time, still getting the hang of doing original programming. Fallen was more or less, an attempt on doing event-type programming which it did succeed but instead of picking it up as a full-fledge series, we got Kyle XY out of the deal (which I don't mind).

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  35. Me neither. I liked Kyle XY until Season 3. I have Season 1 and 2 on DVD.

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  36. I liked it. Will be watching next week.

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  37. The girl didn't bother me, but I don't have a lot of Syfy/NBC shows I watch (Dominion is the only currently airing Syfy show I watch with Being Human and Warehouse 13 gone). Those that I did watch, didn't have a little girl unless she was a main character (Believe).

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  38. really boring show, from a show about angels fighting humans I would expect something more...It could be a series about anything else, the angel factor was definitely not the most important...we have love story, she loves him, but has to marry another dude, there are "less fortunate" people, social differences...there is a kid, like in every show like this, nothing original. Nothing I hadnt seen before, we had humans versus aliens, versus zombies, versus vampires, here we have angels and that is supposed to be original?


    they can fight angels with some humongous guns on city walls? really? I can understand those lesser angels can be killed like this but one of the Powers? Seriously? So they just built walls around cities with some guns on them and that stopped an army of angels? Three of them just flew over the walls in this episode!


    It would be much better show if it was about the first war against angels, when their presence was something of a shock for humans.
    not a single interesting character, Archangel who has sex with women is just ridiculous...

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  39. couldnt agree more...66 minutes (without ads) and almost no angels but some love drama, daddy issue, starving people, social inequality...We have problems like this in maaaaany other shows on tv, why cant they just make a show about FIGHTING angels. If the pilot was so boring, I wouldnt expect anything more from the rest of the rest of the episodes. Pity...I was expecting more.

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  40. I didn't mean a little girl specifically, but a character to lighten up the seriousness of a show. I didn't watch Being Human, but I'd say WH 13 didn't need one such character because the tone of the show was light to begin with. I'm talking dark shows.

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  41. start_wearing_purple20 June 2014 at 21:24

    Anyone else feel like this is a Supernatural spinoff? Supernatural meets Defiance.


    I'm not religious but anyone else find it weird that more and more tv shows tend to portray Angels as the enemy?

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  42. I think they don't want it to be all gloomy because they think they'd scare people off who like a little lightness to everything.

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  43. Ha. I think it might be because angels are super powerful, the ultimate supernatural strength, so I think there is a draw to write about people fighting that ultimate power. And now it's not as taboo anymore to write about angels turning against humanity.

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  44. oh well that sounds interesting the tv miniseries really didn't have much for Aaron and Vilma guess it was too short.

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  45. The Legion is is your best bet. Dominion picks up after the events of that movie.

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  46. Victoria Llanos21 June 2014 at 03:25

    It was good, could've done without the starcrossed lovers though...

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  47. Yep, but it turns me off a little. I like my light shows light, and my dark ones dark. I don't like forced lightness. But I digress. I will give it a couple more episodes before I make any decisions to stop watching.

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  48. (Raises hand) In fact about half my tweets from the Dominion pilot had something to do with Supernatural as well. I am actually sick of evil angels but that has a lot to do with SPN too. It would be nice if some show would not make every higher power species into complete douches at best and evil, bloodthirsty, power hungry dictators bent on genocide at worst.

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  49. I tend to feel the same way. But it depends.

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  50. I've only seen 2 shows, SPN and Dominion with a lot of evil angels/angels turning on humanity. There just hasn't been much angel shows lately period. The last I remember watching when I was a kid was Touched By An Angel. They do really need to make an action show where angels are good though.


    I don't get tired of similar shows though. I get wanting originality, I like it myself, but I also really enjoy anything with supernatural creatures in them that catches my eye.


    I think on Supernatural there are actually less evil angels considering off camera stuff. They're more misguided and followed their bad superiors blindly. Hammers. You've missed some good angels since you stopped watching and others not so much.


    I don't think I'd be interested in the angel plot on either show if there weren't good angels here and there (Cas and Michael). But one angel and I'm sold.


    I get why it bothers you though.

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  51. I loved it! I have to say I was very surprised by it. This coming from someone who really really hates SyFy. Seems like they are trying to get back to their Sci-Fi days.


    I hope it gets renewed, it has a lot of potential and a great cast :)

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  52. I really enjoyed the movie this came from, and loved this pilot.

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  53. I loved Fallen, have watched it several times.

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  54. really, really interesting! the move forward from the events on the movies
    Why doesnt Michael want children? wouldnt be more stronger if they will be half angel/half humans, stronger and will be able to face the others.
    Oh William what have you done D:

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  55. Half angels/humans are portrayed as evil, giant, and/or ugly in some mythology, including the bible. They're considered abominations and it seems by what Michael said that at the very least half angels/humans (Nephilim) are considered evil.

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  56. Does anyone know what the name of that beautiful choral song was? The scene with Michael and... (I don't know yet who the woman is)....

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  57. PS. I did love the pilot of this show! Keep it up Syfy, you're starting to bring me back to your channel!

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  58. there are books that portrayed them as good but what you said it's true, in tthe biblicals ense Agels are fobbiden to have children with humans and they have they more like outcasts and evil creatures, somthing diferent from the Demigods in Greek and Roman myths

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  59. As I said, it depends on the writer and where they want to take the book/show/movie. Sometimes they're written as good (as misunderstood, considered abominations just because they're "half-breeds") and sometimes they really are evil.


    I actually would compare Nephilim to Demigods in some ways. Both are usually considered more powerful than their parents, for one.

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  60. Her name is Becca and I was wondering the same.

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  61. i want to know on what term Gabriel called William his "son" i think.. I belive it was like in some religion everyone called thamselves "brothers or sisters" and it was like something Gabriel calls to those humans that follows him. But if he really is his son then William is so much more than we expected and it will contradictory as for one if Gabriel hates humans so much, why does he have a child?

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  62. Yeah I'm hoping he's just calling him son cause he's a "follower" of Gabriel (like Christians consider themselves sons and daughters of God). He's probably part of the group praying to angels still, as mentioned when that mask was shown. It seems the way that would most make sense.

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  63. It was okay, I'll give a few more episodes to decide if it's a keeper or not. I was doing pretty well with it until the part with the bullet deflecting angel wings.... :rolleyes:

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  64. Thank you BlueStar! I still have it saved on my DVR, and I still cannot hear her name. Hee, hee. I think I found the song, Requiem K 626: Lacrimosa? It sounds like it to me... What do you think?

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  65. I had the same problem with trying to hear the little girl's name...Bitzy or something like that.

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  66. OMG, don't even remind me of that godawful season. Not the season itself per se, but that ending is just...ugh!!

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  67. There's a lot about that season I want to forget.

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  68. Yep, that's the one that I found. It sounded so close! We'll find it, eventually. Unless, they only made it for the show.... :-(. Love that scene though, and now that I know more about the show, after finding out (besides Legion), they also used a book series? I don't know if that is true, but if it is, I'll be reading! Still, I love the show.

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  69. I've never heard of a book series. I'm pretty sure the writers of Legion just made it from scratch. Can't be 100% sure.

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  70. Maybe i wasn't in the mood but i turned it off.It was terrible.

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  71. Yeah, I said with Being Human and Warehouse 13 gone/done/having had their series finales, Dominion is now the only Syfy show I watch.


    Being Human had 4 great seasons and I can only hope Dominion can hae at least that long and have time to wrap up properly like Being Human and Warehouse 13 both did (though I had mixed feelings about Warehouse 13's ending).

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  72. Ivana J Jarmon25 June 2014 at 13:29

    I was thinking after watching does any one else think that this show is loosely based off of Paul Bettany movie Legion. The whole beginning of blot sounds very much like Legion. Not Dissing it but very similar and the main Character fathers name Jeep in Legion there was a character name Jeep anyway i loved the show!!!

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  73. That's got to be it. Thanks for sharing. :)

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  74. It IS based on the film...

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  75. Ivana J Jarmon30 June 2014 at 14:49

    Oh Thanks i thought i was just going crazy...

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  76. True i hope the last as stargate sg 1

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