It appears that an unexpected return may be in the works for the Faceless Man known to viewers as Jaqen H’ghar.
According to the German agency of Tom Wlaschiha, the actor is shooting a 2014 episode of the crime solving series Tatort entitled, “Borowski und die armen Kinder von Gaarden, ” and after that, in August, he’ll begin filming on Game of Thrones. The agency notes that Tom is in the main cast.
The actor’s return has not been officially confirmed by HBO.
According to the German agency of Tom Wlaschiha, the actor is shooting a 2014 episode of the crime solving series Tatort entitled, “Borowski und die armen Kinder von Gaarden, ” and after that, in August, he’ll begin filming on Game of Thrones. The agency notes that Tom is in the main cast.
The actor’s return has not been officially confirmed by HBO.
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Aria will be with him again
ReplyDeleteGreat news- he was magnetic in the role.
ReplyDeleteMakes sense with Arya heading to Braavos. Obviously she plans to meet back up with Jaqen (although he could be anyone seeing as he's Faceless.)
ReplyDeleteThat's surprising.
ReplyDeleteLoved the performance, but I won't lie...
ReplyDeleteI 'm not a fan of Jaqen replacing Kindly Man in Braavos. Not at all.
If he has other jobs to do, well then I'm all for it!
However, those jobs would not likely put him in the "main cast" as the article noted.
Well I'm all for it, he had charisma and was likable.
ReplyDeleteAlso technically they could easily replace Aryas trainer. Would spare the the effort to introduce a whole new character and cast a new actor in this already heavily crowded cast.
He has my vote for sure.
That's what I was thinking too!
ReplyDeleteI will be happy if this is true as I like him in Game of Thrones. I know his character never reappears in the books (or at least not so far) but as others have said there is a role that could be re-written to be him and would actually work really well if this is the case. Hoping it's true.
ReplyDeleteany news about lady stoneheart on got's season 5?!
ReplyDeleteMost signs point to her being cut from the series, but nothing definitive.
ReplyDeleteThe actress and a director both said they knew she was not going to be in the series last year, and both hint that the character will not appear....
That said, HBO and D&D will likely not confirm whether or not the character will be in the series so we just have to wait a year or two. I personally never even considered her for last season, but maybe in Season 5... or even possibly Season 6 depending on how D&D write some character arcs.
I won't mind it in the end I know, but having Jaqen take Kindly Man's place goes against all the progression of her character I think.
ReplyDeleteShe is supposed leave everyone behind her and set out on her own path with no connections to her past, but having Jaqen there changes that since he connects her to her past. How can she be "No one" with no history while talking to someone from her past? It does not work very well to me...
Maybe because even within ASOIAF we don't really know who could be who anyways, because of whom anyone in the guild could assume, whenever any given face is available...If Martin really wanted her to be disconnected, than I don't think he would of let a Faceless Man give the coin to begin with, because Jaqen/The Alchemist is still apart of that guild, whether he is in Braavos at that time or not and it's not like other characters don't end up there as well...
ReplyDeleteHowever, the other way they could do is that The Kindly Man just has Jaqen's FACE and isn't in fact the same person that Arya met.
Great, I really liked his character. I know the story will be different from the books, but I trust the writers, I´m sure it will work out great.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Lady Stoneheart is coming in Season 5? https://vidd.me/gFf
ReplyDeleteI've heard some mention that Jaqen is the face the Kindly Man uses to make Arya comfortable, but to me that goes against the very concept of the man showing up as a rotting skull with a worm in his eye! That is hardly done to make newbies feel comfy, right?
ReplyDeletePlus I feel like it makes the Faceless Men seem like a small group with a handful of members and I did not get that impression in the books.
*Shrug*
Oh well, this is one of those small things that irks me during the pre-season that will probably not even bother me as I watch. XD
I feel ya, but even if he at some point appears a Jaqen's face, doesn't mean that she won't see him the other way sooner or later. It could be scary thinking you're with someone you think you know, only to find out suddenly, he's not the droid, er, faceless man you're looking for, in fact he doesn't have a face at all! XD
ReplyDeleteI'm just bummed about LSH and CH, some of the scary/mysterious parts of mythos not presented. Hopefully though we still see the creepier appearance of TKM.
Yeah Bronn and Jaime going to Dorne baffles me a bit! XD
ReplyDeleteI mean with no Arriane it makes sense to have no Oakheart on some level... maybe. I'm still trying to suss out their Dorne plans...
- Does Trystane replace Quentyn and go questing?
- Does Trystane being aged up and Arriane being cut hint at Young Griff also being cut? (No Arriane/ YG alliance available)
- Does a mixed ethnicity Nymeria suggest she will take over Sarella's arc?
- Does Ellaria take on some of book-Nymeria's arc, and/ or...
- Does Ellaria take on some of Arianne's arc?
Of course most of those musings could be moot if they do cast Arianne in the end... That leaked cast list was not a complete list, so who knows!
That's a change I don't really mind.. When I was reading the books and after the parted ways in Harrenhal, I kinda imagined them meeting again in Braavos and him being the one who showed her the ropes. This might also have something to do with his story in Oldtown, but somehow I doubt it. Even book readers are not fully aware of what's this about.. Just theories as far as I am concerned, so it would involve some long-term planning, and that's very unlikely for the showrunners at this point.
ReplyDeleteNeed more casting news. Stannis and Davos should find something to do with their times. They can't stay idle for a whole season at the wall.
So more and more I'm starting to think that the show is going to take a super-simplified path to the conclusion of the story. That or take a hiatus.
ReplyDeleteI'm torn because I enjoy watching it so much, but I've also enjoyed reading the books and it was far more satisfying to read ahead into new territory without knowing the outcome. I passed the show somewhere around the end of Season 2/Book 2.
But if the show passes the author, I'm not sure. I might hold off and wait until either the last book is released or it becomes impossible for the last book to be released before I watch the remainder of the show.
I suppose it ultimately doesn't much matter. Every last character is going to end up dead right?
I wouldn't eliminate a good end game scenario. Sure, many people are gonna die, and all this fighting and pillaging that's already happening in Westeros, isn't gonna help things much when the real **** goes down.
ReplyDeleteThe show will definitely pass the author at some point. That won't be for a couple of years though. No way the deal with everything that happens on AFFC&ADWD just in one season. Perhaps they'll even slow down to give the author some time to get ahead. I even read somewhere that there's a possibility of doing a prequel in the near future, that will include the events prior to the start of the series. I wouldn't mind, but I just don't know if it would work. Besides WOW should be coming out soon I reckon. ADFS will take more than a few years to be completed. Stop watching the show and way, isn't a viable option.
Regardless what happens with the show, and how of much of simplified things they decide in the end to make things, we'll always have the books. Even I, have made my peace with that fact. I will continue to complain if I don't like something, but that's just natural to a degree.
If she wasn't supposed to have a big role with important consequences in the next books, she wouldn't have been resurrected.
ReplyDeleteIn George we trust.
"I suppose it ultimately doesn't much matter. Every last character is going to end up dead right?"
ReplyDeleteI know a lot of people think that will be the case, but I don't know if I find Martin that Nihilistic.
IMO unless it's nature (the white walkers) that just happens to wipe everyone else out, I don't think it will end in utter desolation considering that using things like seasons, nature/elements, a song metaphor (metaphysics, generational-ism, traditionalism), implies that things keep on moving forward and changing and/or 'the more things change, the more things remain the same'. I'm hoping that the idea is a CYCLE, where only a handful of characters survive "winter" and they are able to socially start over...
I don't know about that. Too be honest I don't like the idea of this being a cycle. I think the outcome will be conclusive and will decide who wins once and for all. I like it more that way, whether the outcome.
ReplyDeleteWhile it is rather complicated at this point (I mean we don't even know who's at which side yet. Are the dragons supposed to be good or bad. BR and the children, or even Mel and her God), I believe the prophesy as long as it is fulfilled, it states pretty clearly what's going to happen. AA will be reborn and he will challenge the others, and from that final battle the fate of the world will be decided.
I also kinda think that the author is greatly influenced (and how could he not) by LOTR, so I don't believe a cliche good ending is out of the question. It may be bittersweet because of all the losses and suffering, but still very probable IMO.
I just don't think with something like White Walkers that the Game of Thrones will be important anymore...Some of Martin's other works like Wind Heaven are about looking at social justice systems (of the past, like the fudel system) and all of the unforeseen consequences of trying to change them...I just think it's pointless to use nature in a fantasy series, unless you're making a statement about the tru nature of said reality and ultimately what is "really" important, which IMO isn't the iron throne, but finding a better system to live by.
ReplyDeleteI see what you're saying.
ReplyDeleteThe game of thrones isn't important. We both know that, and I recall we
have discussed it before. What's been happening in the books so far,
just goes to show how foolish it ultimately was when the real threat was
lurking. But I don't think that bickering it's so important to
fundamentally change the whole world/system because of it, and have a
selected few who knew about the threat all along to survive and the most
people being punished because of the idiocy of those who wasted
valuable resources and ignored the whole situation... It will just
diminish the chances the side of the living as one and united has in the
final conflict. Personally I believe the living will survive, or
everyone will go down as the end result. Whereas they pay for the aforementioned or thrive, I think is a proper ending.
To me it just depends on what the walk walkers really represent. On one hand they're supernatural beings and could be a metaphor for nature and/or "a dark age", but on the other, they also are "living dead", have some human qualities to them (appearance, war) and can take the human dead along with them.
ReplyDeleteIt's just I think the books more so than the TV show home in on the history of Westoros and Essos to a point of things like "the first men", "The children of the Forest", where Man basically did the the children wrong, they go to war, and then suddenly the white walkers appeared, were defeated and now have reappeared or made a come back. So I kind of see a point/concept about generational injustices on "nature" and/or on "children" along with other things that seem like Karma, I can only deduce that this is about cosmic payback and/or having an opportunity for another generation to start again, unless Maritn is going to be existential about it, telling the cautionary tale of all cautionary tales, but I hope not. I hope there is some kind of a silver lining.
But I agree that there will be some kind of united effort, but I think a lot of people might die before we have any real conclusion.
Anyways, whatever it is is whatever it is and you;re right! We can bicker about after the series ends, when whatever it is, is definitively so! XD
It's already way past my bedtime, so forgive me if some things don't make sense (and I guarantee you there's a high probability of that xD).
ReplyDeleteNow it's more clear what you're saying. You know I've read theories about the children being behind the others and seeking vengeance upon the first men and the Andals. What you say is entirely plausible, but too complicated for me to grasp. The others being some kind of a force that brings balance upon the world after a long time of societal and cultural injustice also seems a little far-fetched to me. I prefer the simplified explanation that says the others (a humanoid race more alive than we actually think) are agents of the great other and try to extinguish all life/light from the world.
The children battled with the first men and then made peace. After that the Andals came. But I take that as precedent. While the fighting for dominance continued through the ages, in the end they merged their societies/cultures and continued their lives. It also matches the concept of history repeating itself that is what's happening for the last few years in Westeros.. Now after a brutal fighting between rivals factions, an impending doom is in order to shake everyone up. Either the join forces and face the common enemy as one, or they perish.. The hero of the story, the prophesied savior is the silver lining of the story and a beacon of hope in the midst of this great threat.
You could say this is sort of cosmic payback, if they fail, but it is also a good reminder of what's important. Perhaps you're right and it is about a cycle coming up after every several years with only purpose to teach a lesson to the people. I don't know. We'll find out eventually. Come to think about it, I like your idea, but I do prefer a good and final fight once and for all.
Well, we have to agree on something, don't we? xD... I don't think it's a significant change, but perhaps they'll write themselves into a corner. Certain things seem to work for the time being and as they go along, but the main problem it is how it screws up things in the long run.
You always make sense to me! You always have great points :)
ReplyDeleteNow you are just being nice :D...Thank you, but it's fine really. No matter how good is your knowledge of the language, is quite easy sometimes getting lost between translations (hence the sense thing), by transferring your thoughts from one language into the others. It's a persistent and a bad habit.
ReplyDeleteI hope my thoughts aren't construed as too negative toward the show. I immensely enjoy both mediums. I admit my thoughts aren't as well-developed as they should be.
ReplyDeleteI see a little bit of a problem considering how much material is yet to be released by the author and how much time is left for the show. Correct me if I'm wrong, but GOT going for 3 more seasons right?
Well, I don't think they will cut her entirely. GRRM wouldn't have introduced her if she wouldn't have a role to play. Maybe they're pushing her to Season 6 because it makes no sense to introduce her and then have a huge amount of times between her brief appearances (it's ok for books but doesn't really work on TV).
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, they seem to have found fun in changing the book drastically, especially in Season 4. ;)
I think from this point on in the TV series, even some larger book roles will be cut.... The perfect spot to intro LS is this year some where in Episode 5x09 or 5x10, but I have serious doubts she will make it.
ReplyDeleteTo complete the TV series in seven seasons I think Season 6 and 7 will be comprised completely of material from the two forthcoming books Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring (assuming there is not more than 2 books). So if LS does not appear this year (or any other character in AFFC or ADWD) the odds are against them turning up in Season 6 I think..
That is what makes this production season so specifically interesting... Or maybe nerve-wracking is a better term? This will be the huge pivot year that let's readers know what is in and what is out for the next 3 years!
I hope I am wrong for the fans of her or fans of other roles as well!
Well, now that you explained it, I think you might be right. They don't even have to cut her plot, they could also replace her with someone already on the show (like they did with Gendry and Edric Storm). I gues we'll really have to see what happens, how they approach the remaining seasons and the "threat" of catching up with GRRM. :)
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