The fourth episode of The CW's The 100 does a great job of progressing several storylines. Tonight's episode was once again full of action with several characters involved in various typed of conflict. Thanks to The CW, SpoilerTV has access to screeners for several of the season's episodes, so we can bring you a bit more content than we normally can for many of the other shows we cover. Our roundtable discussion for the fourth episode has questions by Jimmy Ryan, with comments thanks to Daniel van der Veer and Pablo Troncoso Uriarte. The opinion poll is further down below.
Jimmy: First up, after the shock deaths of a couple of characters last week, how well do you think this episode followed on from those deaths and the other events that occurred?
Daniel: This episode really shows the aftermath of last week’s big deaths, in particular Wells’ demise. We already saw Octavia’s reaction to Atom’s death last week, but since Wells died at the end, this week we get to see the aftermath. It’s not like everybody has forgotten what happened. Quite on the contrary, we get to see natural reactions to the deaths. We see the 100 building a ‘wall’ for protection against the grounders. The 100 wants answers and repercussions for Wells’ killer. Clarke is, completely understandably, very bitter against Charlotte and does not forget what she has done. I think the episode did a good job of following up on the events of last week’s episode. |
Pablo: I think it did a great job, the show had an aftermath, we saw Clarke grieving and there was a reaction from the group about Wells' death. The worst thing that can happen after a major character death is that it doesn’t affect the plot overall, but Wells' death caused a reaction among everyone, a pretty intense one, and unleashed some of the darkest moments of the series so far, the hanging of Murphy. It’s really interesting to see. |
Jimmy: Murphy is a character that I think a lot of fans loved to hate, but do you think he deserved the brutal treatment, despite not being Wells’ killer? What about Charlotte’s fate?
Daniel: It’s not like Murphy is an innocent guy that hasn’t done anything wrong. He might not have killed Wells, but he tried to kill Jasper and he was a complete bully to various people. He also desperately wanted to see Charlotte pay for what she did, but was more driven by his own need for revenge than by the fact that she took a person’s life. Murphy might not have killed her, but he did force her to make the decision. I think in the end, Bellamy just needed to make an example out of him to show that it’s not like they can go around killing each other. As for Charlotte, she is just a kid but did something very adult-like. Whether she is crazy or not, nobody can just take another human’s life. It’s not like they can lock her up in a prison or so, because there are no prisons. She made a grave sacrifice, but she also saved Clarke by doing so. Ultimately it’s just some sort of redemption for killing Wells. |
Pablo: I love to hate Murphy, and I was really shocked when I saw everyone so eager to hang him because of how realistic it felt. I don’t know if I’d have gone that far, but the guy had been creating a bad reputation the entire time he’s been on Earth so I’m not surprised the group decided to go there. In a way he asked for it, but I think the 100 went too far, especially because he was innocent. As for Charlotte, my jaw dropped when she sacrificed herself for Clarke, I think she was trying to redeem herself after what she did, and it is a very sad moment, but one that rings true with the series' themes. |
Jimmy: Clarke’s despise of her mother has grown rapidly as she finds new ways to hurt her, but Abby’s resolve to reunite herself with Clarke on the ground has grown at the same pace. What’s your view on this unique dynamic between mother and daughter?
Daniel: While far more complicated than your usual mother-daughter dynamic (since the mother killed the father) it echoes to what happens to most teenagers; they hate their parents, they don’t agree with their actions and they want them to punish them when they do something wrong. The parents want the best for their children, and as such they are capable of taking hits. Abby doesn’t know anything about what’s going on on Earth, but she takes the hit when the possibility strikes for Clarke being dead, while Clarke herself tries to deal with her anger towards her mother by punishing her. Clarke’s actions are more than justified, and I think it will be very interesting to see how what happened affects them both. |
Pablo: I think it’s quite a unique dynamic. They are miles apart, Clarke hates her mother for killing her father, while Abby desperately wants to see her daughter alive again. Although there are typical elements of a teenager-parents relationship, it’s a unique approach to show that. |
Jimmy: The things we take for granted, such as family, religion, and even pencils, have inherited a whole new meaning in this series. Your comments on this?
Daniel: It makes me grateful to have all these privileges. To just be able to go for a walk, to get out of your house to church, or to family or to a store where you can buy whatever you need. They can’t do that on the Ark, they’re always inside (besides the occasional spacewalk for the privileged), they can’t just breathe real air. You will probably get used to it, but it would still feel terrible. |
Pablo: I think the show is trying to tell us that life is both beautiful and ugly; family is important, you keep them close and you do stuff for them, but it doesn’t mean a family member can’t betray another one. The fact that Abby gave away her husband - even if it was for the greater good - talks about how sometimes family bonds can’t protect us from reality. Also, Bellamy constantly attempt to protect her sister Octavia - another constant reminder that we do it for family. |
Jimmy: Clarke and Finn continue to grow closer, but Octavia and Jasper have caught fans’ imagination early as perhaps the relationship underdogs. Were you happy with how both relationships developed in this episode?
Daniel: Both relationships feel very natural and organic. Even though Octavia may still be grieving over Atom’s death, it’s natural for her to not want Jasper to die and to attach herself to him. Also remember she has been living under the floor for years so she probably likes the attention she’s getting. Clarke and Finn have felt natural from the beginning, and after all these devastating events it’s just organic to have them bond. |
Pablo: I am happy! Both relationships develop so organic that it is actually nice to see that the show is not afraid to get characters together when they see it fitting. By the end of the episode Clarke and Finn let their chemistry go wild as a way cool off after all the devastating events they experienced, and it makes sense. Jasper and Octavia is a relationship that is building up rather slowly, but their moments together are quite nice, which will make every interaction they have in the future all the more satisfying. |
Jimmy: With Murphy out of the picture, do you think Bellamy can become a more effective and respected leader on his own, or does he need the muscle provided by Murphy and other offsiders to prevent competition and enforce order?
Daniel: As I said, Bellamy has made an example out of Murphy so that should strengthen his leadership. Now that they also have rules, he might get more respect as well. He’s just the chancellor of the Earth, so he has to make tough decisions while also paying attention to what the people want and need. |
Pablo: I don’t think Bellamy ever needed an enforcer like Murphy, especially because Murphy was pretty bad at taking orders from him. Bellamy has a natural gift for leadership. He can see what the group needs - he just needs to come up with the right words and everyone will do as he says, so he will find some other muscle who will take orders better. Bellamy is becoming a more respected and serious leader as time goes by. |
Jimmy: Raven is on her way to the ground without Abby, The pod she repaired didn’t look overly spaceworthy! If she indeed makes it to the ground, how do you think that will change the situation for both the Ark and the 100 on the ground?
Daniel: Raven has been sent to the ground to see if the 100 are still alive. If she makes it out alive and she could tell the Ark, it would mean that people’s lives will be saved. So that would be quite a game-changer for the Ark. On Earth there is of course Finn and Clarke who have gotten together, and as we learned Finn is Raven’s boyfriend, Clarke and Finn's relationship will obviously be impacted if Raven is reunited with Finn. |
Pablo: I think it will complicate the situation for Clarke and Finn, since those two got together in this episode. Aside from that, now that Clarke got through to some people, telling them that they needed rules, and was actually listened to - I think she can make them understand how beneficial it could be that they communicate with the Ark, and that could be a game changer. On the Ark, it would spare the lives of innocent people and Abby would probably get some power as her theories are proven right, while The 100 could receive supplies and to fight the grounders. But that depends solely on what happens next. |
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On next week's episode, titled 'Twilight's Last Gleaming', Raven's life-threatening descent continues, the results of which divide the colony once more. Someone gets captured by the grounders, but the circumstances are not what you'd expect. And the people on board the Ark unite in a powerful display of solidarity to ensure humanity's survival, but an innovative form of communication from the ground could change the game once more. This episode is definitely one that you cannot miss!
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I wish I could remember everybody's names, but this is still a really great show and I continue to love it.
ReplyDeleteIt really is turning all Lord of the Flies now. Ugh at that girl killing herself. Kinda sad. And ugh at everyone going after who they thought was the murderer.
Can't wait for next week!
This show is so good even though I like Clarke and Finn kind of hoping Clarke and Bellamy got together loving Jasper and Octavia slow building
ReplyDeleteGreat episode!
ReplyDeleteUh oh at Finn and Clarke hooking up. And with Raven coming down to Earth in the next episode? That's going to be extremely awkward.
Seeing Charlotte commit suicide by jumping off the cliff was horrifying. Damn, this show is dark.
Aww at Octavia kissing Jasper to cheer him up. That was sweet.
Really hoping Abby doesn't get floated for getting the pressure regulator and somehow survives as I love Paige Turco but I slightly doubt it.
I dropped this show when Wells was killed off for no other reason but to be a stepping stool for the rest of the cast.
ReplyDeleteSo you don't like that the show has balls and is being unpredictable? Personally I felt it was a great great GREAT choice, Wells was a favorite character of mine but that proved this was not a typical CW series, it has its flaws but it's easily one of the best shows they have. I hope they continue to kill off fan faves. We have a lot of kids to even meet still so who cares.
ReplyDeleteIf the show had any balls they would have killed off their Mary Sue of a protagonist. A random side character with next to to no development does not make them Game of Thrones.
ReplyDeleteWells had potential to be a good character. Where they screwed up was killing him before he had touched that potential to set up this disaster of a storyline.
"If the show had any balls they would have killed off their Mary Sue of a protagonist."
ReplyDeleteNormally I would agree with you but, to me, almost every single one of those kids on the ground are boring and disposable so getting rid of a lynchpin character (even if she is a real Mary Sue) would be too counterproductive.
Somehow, I'm just disappointed with this ep. I guess because it's too perfect that Mechanic Girl makes it to Earth. And they really didn't hang that guy. That, too, was too perfect/copout. And I'm tired of them not even exploring the area.
ReplyDeleteI think I'd like this show better if their contact with the ark was fully over and the ark ended up being over. I'd rather have them focus on being on Earth and learning about it, exploring.
It's not that it was a bad ep, I'm just disappointed with how it's going.
It doesn't have to be GoT but this kind of premise to be taken seriously needs to be as dark as it has been, and also it needs to show that every character is in danger which raises the suspense of any scene with danger, which makes the show more entertaining as a whole. Plus as the comments in the main article state, his death progresses the plot and has interesting consequences. I just don't get why someone would have a problem with that but to each their own.
ReplyDeleteThe 100 1x05 Extended Promo/Preview "Twilight's Last Gleaming"
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCpE894tFo4
Putting "Unpredictable" with "Teen TV Drama" is an oxymoron for me. I am assuming The CW only bought rights to the book due to the Ark and Earth story and just didn't want trouble if they came up with a similar concept.
ReplyDeleteThe producers already answered on Facebook that they set up Wells Jaha to be liked by the audience and then killed. It had nothing to do with plot progression, no one mourned for him or Atom. And this doesn't carry to any episodes after. When you have a show that kills off a book lead character in order to replace them with a made-up character then that isn't 'great choice' to me.
This really was a great episode, it makes you wonder what would you do in that situation, Murphy was an ass with everyone that's why noone thought it twice to have him hanging, Charlotte instead was this sweet little girl with a twisted mind, it was right what Clarke said you cant go around like nothing happened when you just killed somebody, but Murphy had all the rights to be pissed, anyone in that case would have been.
ReplyDeleteRaven made it to the earth and now the love triangule will start people *sighs*
Octavia and Jasper... do i really need to say more?
I do wish I could enjoy it like a mini-LOST series- but things just went sour for me and my interest in the Ark increased in 2 episodes over the Earth "plot". The producers claim they want this as a 4 season show, but how is it possible without stable characters?
ReplyDeleteI loved it. The season is just starting so it's finding its legs. I'm excited for what's to come.
ReplyDeleteI predicted something Tragic, and that is what we got. But with it did finally come some agreement.
ReplyDelete- Murphy's dying would of been tragic but him living just increased his 70% evil heart to 98%, and we all saw what that caused.
- I give Charlotte the credit of redemption for realizing what she has done and the consequence of her action. Her death was tragic.
Also Let the War of Love begin.
- I like Clarke and Finn together a lot.
- However hey just took the love first shocking twist second route, and now with Raven on the ground soon, this will start the War of Love. This can get messy, Hope it doesn't tho.
Them Ark people really need some fresh air.
- Basically I didn't like that Nigel women, anyone who would ask for sex favors as trade is an instant dislike from me.
Best of the season so far. Minus the inevitable, very awkward love triangle between Clarke, Finn and Raven.
ReplyDeleteHaha same for me! When I saw the title "Murphy's law" I was lost completely lost because I didn't who he was......
ReplyDeleteGreat episode Clarke is my favorite character so far, after Wells death. Another good character is Bellamy, I hope his turn to be less asshole and more leader to the hundred.
ReplyDeleteThe plot in the ark was moving foward to fast, but I think Raven come to earth is good idea.
Can't wait for the next week episode.
Please tell me why Clarke is a Mary Sue. She doesn't have any exceptional abilities. Only one guy is interested in her and he doesn't even love her.
ReplyDeleteSeeing as Murphy's been banished, i can't get rid of the feeling that he will join up with the grounders and help them attack the camp.
ReplyDeleteCan't imagine her double work if she will sign on to reprise her role on NCIS:NO if it gets series picked up, tho she was briefly seen in part 1 and never to be seen again lol
ReplyDeleteI think there are two groups of grounders. There's a reason why the river was a "limit" between lands.
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling Murphy is going to get captured (like Octavia) or it's going to join the group of "evil" grounders.
Everytime a tv show kills a major character people throw stupid tantrums. Just quit the show and stop whining.
ReplyDeleteLet's not forgot that Murphy will indeed stumble upon the grounders and offer his help to kill the group that banished him to exile.
ReplyDeleteThe creepy grounder that was spotted on the tree had a much cooler face mask then Bane haha.
ReplyDeleteI know this sounds crazy but is it possible that Grounder we saw on top of the tree be Charlies father?? yes i know getting floated into space will kill u instantly but there must be a reason why they show that grounder and haven't showed him or his manic buddies yet lol
The difference is that Ned was an established character and you cared about the people who were affected by his death and you wanted to see those responsible for killing him pay.
ReplyDeleteWith this show there is no one to care about. Wells had good potential but they killed him in a failed attempt to be edgy. I don't care about any of the people who are sad about his death and the person who killed him was a nobody introduced in the same episode he died.
Pathetic writing all around.
did you watch this episode, she was basically the one who caused all the chaos. When she had to tell everyone what she thought was the truth immediately, without even considering the consequences, and she wasn't even correct. I don't think she's a Mary Sue.
ReplyDeleteI stopped watching the show, because of the main character. She's too Mary Sue and speechy for my liking. I gave the show another chance (thanks to Thumblr reaction to this show) and Clarke's more tolerable thanks to Bellamy. I love the interaction between the two. Mixture of frustration, hate, trust, betrayal. Makes good TV.
ReplyDeleteRight but they make sure everyone knows it isn't her fault. It's the situation's fault. She was forced to be wrong.
ReplyDeleteEven her grudge against Wells wasn't her fault. It was Wells for allowing her to think she was right.
So Pathetic....
ReplyDeleteThen you should move on to another show & leave the show to those who are willing to watch and give it a chance. It's only 4 eps in.
Thanks for stopping by
So you have no counterpoints to anything I said?
ReplyDeleteThe only reason I gave this show a chance was the positive buzz around it and since, apparently, this was the last episode critics saw I've already decided I won't be watching further.
It's fine if you enjoy the show. I don't.
She's not always right and she admitted it just because she has strong opinions doesn't make her a Mary Sue.
ReplyDeleteReally good tv show. Just when i was disappointed in it, they went ahead and killed Wells. I am still not sure he is dead though, we never saw them find and bury his body. If it is implied that they did, how come they found his body but not his cut off fingers or knife which weren't far away? Maybe they assumed he is dead by pool of blood? The guy is right behind Clark in the promotional banners, how come he died in the 3rd episode....??
ReplyDeleteI really hope they drop the whole Clarke and the guy whose girlfriend is coming down from ark for him thing. They had sex, yikes. The most boring pairing on the show, even Wells/Clark had more potential to be angsty.
personally i could ship Bellamy/Clark. He is still trying to figure out between being the good guy and the bad guy. He will probably end up bad though, like the black-haired guy on Ark that keeps pushing for a bunch of people to get floated. Maybe he is his dad? I can totally see Bellamy as the kind of guy who starts doing bad things to keep the order and in his understanding to save people. I was truly surprised when he tied to hang the guy.
I also hope charlotte is dead, probably not, since i think i heard a splash of water when she jumped. If this show keeps bringing dead people back no one will take the death on it seriously...
I thought she was Mary Sue too in the beginning, but usually Mary Sue are protected by writing from God forbid doing anything wrong. Clark on the other hand keeps making mistakes, which makes her likable and relatable. Rushing forward and almost dying in the trap, or telling everyone who she thought killed Wells, which ended up pretty badly for everyone involved.
ReplyDeleteI agree, i just don't see how the Ark plot will fit into the 100 teens surviving on their own. I kind of hope the Ark explodes. At the rate the oxigen is running out i'd say they either all have to go down to earth or die. If all people come down and start rebuilding civilisation it will be boring, the adults have all the nesessary skills and tools to make a decent living. What makes the 100 so interesting is that it's like The Lord of Flies all over again plus not only they have to reign in their own instincts to stay civilised but they have wild nature and grounders against them. I don't want any parents ruining the fun.
ReplyDeleteYes thats what I liked about her in the episode. She made a bad judgement and owned her mistake. That really helped find the character tolerable.
ReplyDeleteExactly. I'm so glad Clarke's mother didn't make it down to Earth yet.
ReplyDeleteThere was some preview of the Ark having explosions. I hope they get rid of it. This show should just concentrate on the people who are down and do some exploring and figuring things out.