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THURSDAY 4/17/14 METERED MARKET RESULTS
Lackluster Results for Three Season-Enders
Household Rating/Share
ABC 5.4/ 9
CBS 4.8/ 8
Fox 3.7/ 6
NBC 2.3/ 4
CW 1.3/ 2
-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Thursday 4/18/13:
ABC: +86, NBC: + 5, CW: -13, CBS: -20, Fox: -42
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-Winners:
“The Big Bang Theory” R (CBS), “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC), “Scandal” (ABC)
-Fastest Fading Show in Primetime:
“American Idol” (Fox)
-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Community” (NBC), “Parks and Recreation” (NBC), “The Crazy Ones” (CBS), “Hollywood Game Night” (NBC), “Surviving Jack” (Fox), “Parenthood” (NBC)
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Ratings Breakdown:
ABC won this third Thursday in April, which featured three on-the-bubble series -- “Community” and “Parenthood” on NBC and “The Crazy Ones” on CBS -- ending their season (or series) runs. Top-rated for the evening was the season-finale of “Scandal” on ABC at a 7.5 rating/13 share at 10 p.m., which built by 21 percent in the household overnights from dominant “Grey’s Anatomy” at 9 p.m. (6.2/10). Although ABC could utilize “Scandal” for lead-in support to another drama next season, sometimes it is better off to leave well enough alone.
Earlier in the evening on ABC was an encore of “Grey’s Anatomy” at a third-place 2.4/ 4 at 8 p.m.
CBS populated the 8-9 hour with two encore telecasts of “The Big Bang Theory,” which dominated with an average 6.7/12 (6.6/12 at 8 p.m.; 6.8/12 at 8:30 p.m.). Last night was critical, no doubt, for Robin Williams sitcom “The Crazy Ones” and the results were not positive, unfortunately. Two episodes aired, with the 9 p.m. installment at a 4.3/ 7 (#3) and the 9:30 p.m. finale, featuring guest star Marilu Henner, at a 3.6/ 6 (#2). Comparably, retention for “The Crazy Ones” at 9 p.m. out of the 8:30 p.m. repeat of “The Big Bang Theory” was 63 percent, and the second telecast at 9:30 p.m. dropped by 16 percent despite facing modest “Surviving Jack” on Fox (#3: 2.6/ 4).
With the odds of renewal on CBS not stacked in its favor, a cable network like TBS could still benefit by picking up “The Crazy Ones” for a second season (and pairing it with “Cougar Town,” perhaps). To the folks on “The Crazy Ones” that I met at the set visit in January: do not give up hope yet.
The Eye net capped off the night with a Thursday 10 p.m. repeat of “NCIS” at a second-place 3.9/ 7 in the overnights.
Over at NBC, “Community” closed its season with a mere 1.9/ 3 at 8 p.m. (#4), which led into an embarrassing 1.7/ 3 for already renewed “Parks and Recreation” at 8:30 p.m. Results of this magnitude warrant cancellation, no doubt. But NBC has always been patient with critically acclaimed “Community” and will likely order 13-episodes for a final sixth season.
Next on the wilted Peacock net was “Hollywood Game Night” at a fourth-place 2.2/ 4 in the overnights from 9-10 p.m., followed by the season-ending episode of “Parenthood” at a third-place 2.8/ 5 at 10 p.m. Mirroring “Community,” “Parenthood” is not worthy of a renewal based on the overnights. But patient NBC is unlikely to swing the axe on this cult favorite without some sort of official conclusion.
On Fox, demo-friendly “Hell’s Kitchen” finished second in the overnights from 8-9 p.m., with a 3.6/ 6, and that led into a 5.1/ 8 (#2) for the live half-hour “American Idol” results show at 9 p.m. Comparably, “Idol” slipped by 40 percent (ouch!) from the 8.5/14 for the one-hour edition on the year-ago evening. In a perfect world, Fox would order one final season of “American Idol” with original judges Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul and Randy Jackson. But, let’s be honest…that is not going to happen.
Aforementioned Fox sitcom “Surviving Jack,” which is worthy from a creative standpoint, dropped by 49 percent in the overnights at 9:30 p.m. with a series-low 2.6/ 4 at 9:30 p.m.
The CW capped off primetime with already renewed dramas “The Vampire Diaries” (#5: 1.4/ 2) and “Reign” (#5: 1.2/ 2).
ABC got a boost in late night thanks to facing encores of Jimmy Fallon on NBC and David Letterman on CBS with an original installment of “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” at a dominant (and above average) 3.4/ 8 from 11:30 p.m.-12:30 a.m. The stellar support from “Scandal” at 10 p.m. did not hurt, of course. The Fallon and Letterman repeats each averaged a 2.1/ 5.
“Nightline” on ABC at 12:30 a.m. dominated with a 2.3/ 7 (yes…lead-in does matter), while Craig Ferguson on CBS and Seth Meyers on NBC (a repeat) each averaged a 1.1/ 4. An encore of Carson Daly on NBC closed the
night with a 0.7/ 3 at 1:30 a.m.
Source: Nielsen Media Research
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You copied Marc's text wrong. Just putting out there.
ReplyDeleteAnyway:
ReplyDelete"Top-rated for the evening was the season-finale of “Scandal” on ABC at a 7.5 rating/13 share at 10 p.m.,
which built by 21 percent in the household overnights from dominant “Grey’s
Anatomy” at 9 p.m. (6.2/10). Although
ABC could utilize “Scandal” for lead-in support to another drama next season,
sometimes it is better off to leave well enough alone."
Is that 7.5 in HH for Scandal a series high or is it below the premiere? I think we might be looking at a new series high.
Heads up. Right table, wrong text in the post. It's showing us the viewers for Wednesdays shows.
ReplyDeleteIt's a new record HH Rating for Scandal.
ReplyDeleteSeason premiere got a 7.9. Don't count on it :)
ReplyDeleteAre you able to see the text? I see a "being updated" thing.
ReplyDeleteIt should be there now.
ReplyDeleteIt still says that for me, but I had a quick look at Berman's post on his website.
ReplyDeleteI can't see the text nor the table. It's weird.
ReplyDeleteno its not. :)
ReplyDeleteYeah, I realized that a second after I posted. He tweeted the link out and I copied/pasted w/o seeing.
ReplyDeleteFor someone that hates Scandal, you do seem to know it's numbers well.
ReplyDeleteAnd do you know why i can't see the table? It shows up a catchpa, or whatever that's called.
ReplyDeleteYeah, because that 7.5 in comparison is just absolutely embarassing isn't it?
ReplyDeleteI had that too. I entered the text and it's showing fine now. (it's a little spaced out and stuff but it's perfectly readable).
ReplyDeleteevery show on cw is doing very bad this week,it's not surprising!!
ReplyDeleteI'm blessed with a good memory
ReplyDeleteHe's really rooting for The Crazy Ones! And so am I. I really love this show. Needs a second season! Also glad for Scandal and Greys, great eps amazing finale for scandal even, felt very series finale.
ReplyDeleteWhy would more people watch a show due to who is directing it? Thats ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteUgly ratings everywhere, except for ABC Shonda's combo.
ReplyDeleteText updated here, thanks guys.
Oh yeah, Scandal rules.
ReplyDeleteYeah you're right. It's been a very bad week haha. I never know with TVD when it comes to their HH ratings. I know the CW's ratings based on HH is usually pretty unpredictable. The last two HH ratings were both 1.6. Yet that ended up translating into a 1.1 and a 0.8 so I guess with TVD especially, the HH ratings don't really count.
ReplyDeleteIt worked for Supernatural when Misha Collins directed.
ReplyDeleteI submit it but it just shows up another one instead.
ReplyDeletewhen it's directed by one of the main cast members,i guess it creates a bit of curiosity.
ReplyDeleteexactly,this means nothing regarding the demo.i'm not expecting more than 0.8 though!!
ReplyDeletelol It's my fault..Scandal S3 premiere got a 7.9/14.
ReplyDeleteIt's working now.
ReplyDeleteI hope it's a little higher. The CW needs a win this week. I'd have preferred that the win was from any of the other CW shows, but i'd rather TVD do well than nobody do well.
ReplyDeleteGood. Sometimes these things just glitch for no reason and then fix themselves I think.
ReplyDelete"And on-the-fence “Parenthood” followed with a distant third-place 2.8/ 5 at 10 p.m" When Parenthood got this in HH before it resulted in a 1.4 in prelims/finals. It would be nice if it hits that again today. It's not much, but I'd think it'd be enough to justify a final short season.
ReplyDeleteNew tables?
ReplyDeleteAside from Scandal, it looks like everything did terrible last night! Wonder why
ReplyDeleteMaundy Thursday.
ReplyDeleteLooks like there is a problem with the tables or that Google have changed how our standard ones display. I'm out until tomorrow so I'll not be able to check until then unfortunately
ReplyDeleteCan we expect Scandal's numbers to be in the mid 3's vicinity?
ReplyDeleteTBBT is a monster. Even in repeats.
ReplyDeleteGood for GA and Scandal.
Predictable drop for VD. I guess I'm not the only one who is starting to give up on the show.
Also, the tables are weird. I entered the anti-bot code three times, its working now, but they are large and just weird. Does this have anything to do with my location (I'm from Ukraine)?
Don't worry, not a problem at all. Was just wondering ^^
ReplyDeleteNo, there appears to be a bug somewhere.
ReplyDeleteHopefully I'll be able to fix for future posts
According to SitComOnlines, Scandal did a 3.9 in the top25 markets.
ReplyDeleteHope Community cracked at least a 1.0. Last year finale rised to a not-so-bad 1.3.
ReplyDeletethat's just a tenth below the 4.0 it did for the season premiere, so pretty amazing!
ReplyDeleteIt's time to upload this (sorry Mr. Berman) ...
ReplyDeleteWHAT?! 2.4 for Parks?! Is that a mistake or something? I wish those numbers were real, but it's impossible!
ReplyDeleteNot even a new high for Scandal.
ReplyDeleteSo? 3.4 is still the highest drama of the week (or even month)
ReplyDeleteLast time hit show Revenge beat Scandal Up All Night was airing and American Idol was a juggernaut.
ReplyDeleteI know that 2.4 Parks is probably a mistake or something, but please! Please let it be true!
ReplyDeleteIt tied Game of Thrones
ReplyDelete1.7 for Parenthood season finale (if not a mistake) is a huge number.
ReplyDelete2.4 million viewers.
ReplyDelete0.9 rating :(
WTF? 1.7 for Parenthood?
ReplyDeleteI knew it has to be a mistake :(
ReplyDeleteWell Community rose to 1, so that's probably enough for its 6th and final season.
ReplyDeleteThis is the first time Parks hits below 1 :(
Pretty good for Scandal and Parenthood
1.3 for Parenthood, stop fooling us :(
ReplyDeleteWhat a hell of a night, Community beat Parks is my consolation prize.
Series low for Crazy Ones, is that 0.8 for Hell's Kitchen right?
The table now displays a 1.3, more realistic.
ReplyDeleteis that 0.8 for Hells Kitchen an error
ReplyDeleteIs that number for Hell's Kitchen right?! FOX is dead
ReplyDeleteAccording to Joe Adalian, Community was the NBC's highest rated show last night among men Under 35, and tied TBBT repeat.
ReplyDeleteIt must be, I can't imagine Hells Kitchen doing that bad
ReplyDeleteNo it got a 1.7.
ReplyDelete1.7 for Hell's Kitchen.
ReplyDeleteGoT premiere 3.6!
ReplyDeleteSorry for the incorrect ratings at first, I'm all over the place today.
ReplyDelete8:00 p.m.
ReplyDeleteTBBT-R 2.2/2.6
Hell’s Kitchen 1.6/1.8
Community 1.0
Grey’s Anatomy-R 0.7/0.8
The Vampire Dairies 0.7/0.7
8:30 p.m.
Parks and Recreation 0.9
9:00 p.m.
Grey’s Anatomy 2.5/2.5
American Idol 1.9
The Crazy Ones 1.6/1.3
Hollywood Game Night 0.8/1.0
Reign 0.4/0.4
9:30 p.m.
Surviving Jack 1.0
10:00 p.m.
Scandal 3.4/3.5
Parenthood 1.3/1.3
NCIS-R 1.0/1.0
That's more like it
ReplyDeleteYeah, I meant broadcast drama, but it was almost on par with GoT
ReplyDeleteThe CW is having an awful week, their top shows all tied at 0.7 (TO, SPN, Arrow and TVD)
ReplyDeleteOuch at CW.
ReplyDeleteNew low for VD and Reign had the same rating from last week airing after a repeat.
CW has really died after the olympics.
Haha we all have off days, no worries!
ReplyDeleteit is surprising that the episode can't even tie season premiere. btw I don't like the way this season ends. There must have been better options. I still prefer Season 2 by far.
ReplyDeleteI agree. At least it makes The 100 look better!
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, CW always does poorly in Spring, Arrow did mostly 0.9/0.8s last spring and then it rose above 1s in the fall. They are in pretty bad shape right now, but if they manage to rise in the fall, they still have nothing to worry about. If their fall numbers keep this up, then....
ReplyDeleteIt's ok, but I must say that I was shocked when I saw that 2.4 for Parks. I knew it couldn't be true, but for one minute there, I hoped
ReplyDelete8:00 p.m.
ReplyDeleteABC – Grey’s Anatomy (R)
Viewers: 3.37 million (#3), A18-49: 0.7/ 3 (#4t)
CBS – The Big Bang Theory (R)
Viewers: 9.67 million (#1), A18-49: 2.2/ 8 (#1)
NBC – Community (season or series finale)
Viewers: 2.90 million (#4), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#3)
Fox – Hell’s Kitchen
Viewers: 4.60 million (#2), A18-49: 1.6/ 6 (#2)
CW – The Vampire Diaries
Viewers: 1.69 million (#5), A18-49: 0.7/ 3 (#4t)
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8:30 p.m.
ABC – Grey’s Anatomy (R)
Viewers: 3.47 million (#3), A18-49: 0.8/ 3 (#4)
CBS – The Big Bang Theory (R)
Viewers: 10.83 million (#1), A18-49: 2.6/ 9 (#1)
NBC – Parks and Recreation
Viewers: 2.39 million (#4), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#3)
Fox – Hell’s Kitchen
Viewers: 5.04 million (#2), A18-49: 1.8/ 6 (#2)
CW – The Vampire Diaries
Viewers: 1.63 million (#5), A18-49: 0.7/ 2 (#5)
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9:00 p.m.
ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 7.99 million (#1), A18-49: 2.5/ 8 (#1)
CBS – The Crazy Ones
Viewers: 6.30 million (#3), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#3)
NBC – Hollywood Game Night
Viewers: 2.78 million (#4), A18-49: 0.8/ 3 (#4)
Fox – American Idol
Viewers: 7.88 million (#2), A18-49: 1.9/ 6 (#2)
CW – Reign
Viewers: 1.43 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)
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9:30 p.m.
ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 8.21 million (#1), A18-49: 2.5/ 8 (#1)
CBS – The Crazy Ones (season or series finale)
Viewers: 5.36 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#2)
NBC – Hollywood Game Night
Viewers: 3.61 million (#4), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#3t)
Fox – Surviving Jack
Viewers: 4.30 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#3t)
CW – Reign
Viewers: 1.36 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)
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10:00 p.m.
ABC – Scandal (season finale)
Viewers: 10.45 million (#1), A18-49: 3.4/10 (#1)
CBS – NCIS (R)
Viewers: 5.95 million (#2), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#3)
NBC – Parenthood (season or series finale)
Viewers: 3.82 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#2)
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10:30 p.m.
ABC – Scandal (season finale)
Viewers: 10.45 million (#1), A18-49: 3.5/11 (#1)
CBS – NCIS (R)
Viewers: 6.10 million (#2), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#3)
NBC – Parenthood (season or series finale)
Viewers: 4.10 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#2)
Source: Nielsen Media Research
Agreed.
ReplyDeleteWhich makes CW look worse is that they were up y2y during fall, but their spring performance looks worse than 2013.
The days of The Vampire Diaries unquestioned reign has definitely come to an end. If you told me at the start of the season that it would be getting 0.8/0.7 I wouldn't have believed you.
ReplyDeleteGoT has much more competition and much less market.
ReplyDeleteI had an exam a few hours ago (last exam, hurray), and I didn't have much sleep last night, lol.
ReplyDeleteOuch at Reign
ReplyDeleteFair enough. Hope your exam went well!
ReplyDeleteThe entire CW is down. The Vampire Diaries ended last year at 185% of the cw's average and is now at 165% of cw's average. While there is a difference, it's not that large and they will likely still finish the season as the top rated CW's show.
ReplyDeleteYeah I cannot explain the strange phenomenon that is happening to them this spring. I mean everything is down, but they are too much down. It's like FOX
ReplyDeleteYeah, I think it does help its chances and that's a relief. But I wish The 100 was secured because it was performing better and not because everything else seems to be falling apart :/
ReplyDeleteSooooo, Reign got a .4 out of a .7 and TPP got a the same rating out of a .3, I don´t watch any of those shows but CW made a bad choice back on February.... they should have waited....
ReplyDeleteI just thought that it was pretty much invincible though to be honest
ReplyDeleteParks :(
ReplyDeleteApple and oranges, the 10PM timeslot is less watched than the 9PM timeslot, so you could say they are equal.
ReplyDeleteAlso, how is competing against a 2.1, a 1.3 and a 1.0 a lot of competition? That's nothing compared to Mondays
Sigh at TCO. It's didn't deserve to get it's finale sandwiched b/w repeats.
ReplyDeletenot in spring
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, TBBT repeats rate as well/or better than most CBS originals
ReplyDeleteAiring after a 2.6 lead-in is just awful!
ReplyDeleteSeason premieres almost always do better numbers than season finales....
ReplyDeleteAnd that was especially going to ring true for something like Scandal. Scandal started the 3rd season so unbelievably hot (to the point where its 3.6 was a mild disappointment). By now, everyone knows about it and has largely decided if they're on board or not.
Back in Feb Reign was stable at 0.6-0.7 after premiring at 0.8 while TTP premired at 0.9 and by 14 episodes later had gone to 0.4,loosing half it's audience.Reign is a network fave,has better word of mouth, buzz than TTP, does better than TTP in a18-34/W 18-34& at times was doing better than TTP in DVr and Reign was/is the fourth most streamed cw show.Ive also heard that TTP has lost half it's viewers in the UK too.Reign improved its timeslot also while TTP didn't and was moved for underperforming after a high rated and very compatible leadin.Reign makes more ad revunue for CW too.An 0.4 out of 0.7 isn't that bad considering nothing on CW this week or last week got above a 0.9.TTP has also fallen to 0.3 and under a million viewers while Reign hasnt.Further, Reign grew out of its lead in in total viwers this week(like TTP did)& usually matches or grows out of VD repeats-at least it did when both were repeats-..It's spring and almost everything on the networks and CW are way down.Plus,TTP,CD,HoD,SC,BatB, weren't and aren't doing better than Reign.
ReplyDeleteOuch at Reign & VD.At least Reign out of VD in total viewers and has higher total viewers than its had in a while.Has it ever grown out of VD in total viewers before?
ReplyDeleteYes! Everybody keep saying it but, I would not worry for these ratings though,TheCw always does bad in spring.What's really important for the network is(I suppose)how their shows do in the fall. That's why Reign and TO has got an early renewal..they did both well in that time.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry Barb, you do so much around here, you get deserve a gimme every now and again. :)
ReplyDeleteSee now? The 100 wasn't and isn't doing that bad as you thought :) it started on March and had to face like 2 pre-emptions in Chicago.
ReplyDeleteFortunately Reign is already renewed, now I hope that Cw will renew The 100 too.
You're right that TO & Reign got early renewals for performing well in fall.But spring ratings are more important than fall ones cause spring ratings tend to be fall ratings the next season.Examples :Ringer,Secret Circle.
ReplyDeleteWow at Vampire Diaries.
ReplyDeleteI have a question. I don't watch The CW besides Supernatural, so I don't know... Did The CW have any market preempted yesterday? Or signal problems again?
oh damn at reign two weeks in a row on .four that is bad .. this last few weeks as been awfull to the cw
ReplyDeleteCw's shows were pre-empted in Chicago? if they weren't, that would make Supernatural, The Originals Arrow and The 100 look better.
ReplyDeleteFunny from someone who loves low-rated shows!
ReplyDeleteWell it's not good that in four episodes The 100 fell from 0.9 to 0.5.Its on the bubble.Reign took 12 or more episodes to fall the same amount.
ReplyDeleteRemember the pre-emptions The 100 had to face and the airing after an Arrow's encore (on its fourth episode, not the fourteenth like Reign), and like you said, everything is down.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why you're kind of against The 100. I like both shows but I like to be objective and consider all the things.
Reign got a good result the first time it aired after The Vampire Diaries. I recognized that.
Wednesday (with pre-emptions in Chicago)
Arrow 0.7
The 100 0.5
Thursday (from what I read, without pre-emptions), unless they adjust up in the finals.
The Vampire Diaries 0.7
Reign 0.4
Series low for TVD?
ReplyDeleteWhile it's true that Reign fell to 0.5 with the twelth episode, Reign had a bigger lead-in. You know Cw's numbers very well and I know them too :)
ReplyDeleteThe Vampire Diaries' ratings until then were between 1.3 and 0.9, while Arrow's (so far, since it became lead-in of The 100) are between 0.9 and 0.7.
Well in the fall Arrow & VD were rating about the same,between 1.0 and 1.2.This spring, both have been getting the same 0.7-0.9.So VD isn't really the networks best leadin or a bigger leadin anymore.I have nothing against The 100.Reign and VD also had to deal with preemptions this season and Reign iis adjusted down quite often.Istill maintain it's not good for The 100 to decline so much so fast and loose nearly half it's half it's audience in four episodes-spring, weaker leadin or not,especially with the hype,buzz,reruns and being touted as a "potential long term player for CW" and a lot of promotion.Im not saying Reign is doing good now,cause its not not but the fact it took 12 or more episode to fall to 0.4-0.5 in spring with a weaker leadin than it did for The 100& TTP is in in Reigns favor.
ReplyDeleteOn that period Arrow was helping The Tomorrow People, not The 100. And a stronger The Vampire Diaries helped Reign (The Vampire Diaries got a rating of 1.0 or higher (9 times) between October 17 and February 27 (the day Reign fell to 0.5).
ReplyDeleteWhile it's true that Reign fell to 0.5 with the twelth episode, Reign
had a bigger lead-in. You know Cw's numbers very well and I know them
too :)
The Vampire Diaries' ratings until then were between 1.3
and 0.9, while Arrow's (so far, since it became lead-in of The 100) are
between 0.9 and 0.7.
Yes it used to.But it's not the best/leadin on CW anymore and this season and last Arrow & SPN have beaten it at times.VD was even getting 0.9-1.0 at times in fall this season.
ReplyDeleteYes, that's true. All the big four of The Cw (The Vampire Diaries, Supernatural, Arrow and The Originals) were stronger in the fall. That's what I mean. The 100 didn't have the luck to have a lead-in that gets 1.0 or higher ratings. The 100 is 'lucky' if Arrow gets a 0.9.
ReplyDeleteThe 100's First episode
Arrow 0.8
The 100 0.9
Second episode
Arrow 0.9
The 100 0.7
Third Episode
Arrow 0.8
The 100 0.6
Fourth episode (with pre-emptions)
Arrow -R 0.4
The 100 0.5
Fifth episode (with pre-emptions)
Arrow 0.7
The 100 0.5
Please, read again the comment you answered to. I edited it :)
However, at this point TTP is the only show that has remained stable for the past few months, whereas all the other shows are dropping. Whether one show took longer to drop than the other, shouldn't really matter anymore
ReplyDeleteThe endless preemptions and hiatuses don't help. Last season wasn't this stop and start.
ReplyDeletebatb did better last year than reign does. reigns season average is 1.60
ReplyDeletebatbs was 178
TTP hasn't been steady it went from 0.5/ to to two 0.4s to 0.3 ,under a million viewers to 0.5 to 0.4 again.TTP started at 0.9 and has gone as low as 0.3, that's not stable at all.TO premired at 1.0 in finals and it's low is 0.7.Reign started at 0.8 & it's low is 0.4 so. Theyre more steady than TTP. Theres no gaurenteed if TTP s renewed it'll do better than 0.3-0.4.The fact Reign took longer to drop to 0.4-0.5 DOES matter-example :three seasons ago Ringer debuted to 1.2-1.3 and was at 0.4-0.5 at the end of the season,Secret Circle debuted at 1.3 behind a 1.6 and higher VD yet at the end of the season it was getting 0.5-0.6.HoD premired at 0.8 but stayed stable at 0.5-0.6.HoD is still on so that means stability and not declining all season matter to CW.Why would they renew a show thats lost half it's audience and is getting 0.4s in spring which means if it's renewed,it'll get 0.4s next fall and drop from there.
ReplyDeleteWrong.Pedowitz even said Reign grew/improved its timeslot.Plus BatB started at 1.2 and by episodes eight got 0.5s ,and had already lost half it's audience.Months ago, someone posted BatB/Reign comparison and Reign was doing better,
ReplyDeletei said that cause i have the info/stats
ReplyDeleteyou can see for yourself - it lost more audience but started off higher, ultimately its average viewers were higher and for majority of episodes its viewers were higher. it averaged 0.6 and it did not get ever below 0.5
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/beauty-and-the-beast-season-one-ratings-25062/
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/reign-season-one-ratings-30446/
Well, SPN,VD didn't go below 1.0 last spring and VD was getting 0.9-1.0 this fall//winter.CW started having an up season but this is the second week in a row nothing on CW got 0.91.0 or higher.Having a higher rated VD leadin last season helped BatB.BatB also was never Preempted or aired without an original VD leadin.
ReplyDeletei was answering your original question which was incorrect - that batb did worse last year than reign does this year. now the reasons for that may be varied (inclduing some of the ones you menitoned above) but that is not the point here
ReplyDeleteBut the same can be said for Reign now.TTP's small drop corresponded to moving it to a Monday slot,....I actually thought it would do much worse with such a move, but it has actually remained somewhat stable. So yes, I think it deserves to be renewed just as much as any of the other bubble shows.
ReplyDeleteI don't hate the show.Im just being realistic about its ratings.No Reign dosent have a much have a much better leadin than TTP-VD has gotten 08,0.7 the last two episodes and when TTP followed Arrow this fall, Arrow and VD were getting very similar demos.TTP was moved for underperforming after Arrow so it didn't do well with a high rated leadin and it's not doing good with a low rated leadin.If people really liked and wanted to watch TTP, they would ,no matter what leadin ,what timeslot but they didn't.TTP premired at 09 and 8 episodes was down to 0.5, then fell to two 0.4s ,then an 0.3, then 0.5 ,now 0.4 again.Reign premired at 0.8 and until the last month,when spring hit,preemptions and twice airing after a repeat leadin , it' got 0.6-0.7 then cause of the reasons I mentioned, fell to 0.4-0.5.TTP didn't have to deal with preemptions or airing on its own with a repeat leadin.Reign was/is more steady rated than TTP.I know you liove TTP but take off your fan girl goggles.
ReplyDeleteNo point in arguing with someone who is both insulting and ignorant and refuses to read the comments. "Fan girl goggles?? Who the hell do you think you're talking to? Please stop.
ReplyDeleteSecret Circle was canceled becouse of spring ratings, yet was the numer 3 show of that season...
ReplyDeleteSo?Reign is renewed Secret Crircle wasn't.Secret was cancelled because according to Pedowitz,it was exspensive,didn't do well or internationally and couldn't keep VD audience and it declined steadily all season going from 1.3 to 0.5.It lost half or more of its audience.CW evidently thought it would do worse away from VD and decided not to risk it.
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