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Community - Episode 5.13 - Basic Sandwich - Promotional Photos

Apr 6, 2014

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132 comments:

  1. Haha I wonder what happens with Duncan. And ugh at Jeff/Britta.

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  2. Jeff/Britta >>>>> Jeff/Annie whooops

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  3. Oh no! Jeff/Britta again.

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  4. Holy crap Jeff and Britta making out! I read the spoiler about her considering an offer from him. Based on that and what he went through last episode, perhaps Jeff's finally looking to settle down. I'm excited to see how this all plays out. And what is up with Duncan lol?

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  5. Jeff and Britta again? Ugh I thought we were over that!

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  6. If the Jeff/Britta stuff is not a major misdirect, then we will end up with a major gutpunch to the fans on the scale of the HIMYM finale. The show has already mined out Jeff/Britta for chemestry and ideas. It needs to stop being scared of the idea of letting Jeff and Annie get together.

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  7. That picture of Jeff and Britta makes me happy. Can't wait to see this finale but I'm also a bit sad that the season will be over.

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  8. Not Jeff and Brita ): Although, now that Jeff is 40 would seems a little creepy to see him with Annie. Still, I love their chemistry, Jeff and Annie will always be my OTP.

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  9. Not Jeff/Britta again. Please no. :(

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  10. The only people that will be upset are Jeff and Annie shippers which are just a small portion of the audience. The reason why Harmon isn't putting them together is not because he's scared, but because it's not part of his story. If he wanted to do that he would have and if he decides to do it now he'd have to craft a story to make it believable because right now it's not. That and the fact that the man is old enough to be her father.

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  11. I know some people who are not shippers who would also be upset about Jeff/Britta, because they don't want any relationships amongst the group. Based on everything I've read and heard, the majority of the fans are non-shippers, then Jeff/Annie, then Jeff/Britta.


    At any rate, I hope there's more to it than just putting them together, since that's never really seemed like what Dan wants to do. He's always tried to poke at traditional sitcom tropes instead of following suit with them. You're absolutely right about it not really being part of the story as of right now.

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  12. Whoa Jeff and Britta. Been calling that one all season, but it's still a big jarring to see!

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  13. Darn it why did I spoil myself? Even though I could tell they were building toward this the last two years, I still would have been pleasantly surprised at seeing Jeff and Britta officially getting back together in the finale. Ugh I need more self-control lol.

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  14. Except that Harmon said on IGN that Jeff and Britta don't have any romantic chemistry. This is obviously just a fakeout.

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  15. I hope you're kidding. It would be very believable for Jeff and Annie to get together. And the age difference means nothing. Go watch Roman Holiday, or My Fair Lady, or Seeking A Friend For The End Of The World. Hell, go watch some British shows. Couples on many Brit shows feature even larger age differences. Harmon himself said on IGN that he loves the chemistry between Jeff and Annie, and that Jeff and Britta have a chemical lack of chemistry. Look it up.
    And no, it won't only be Jeff/Annie shippers who are upset. I'm not a shipper of any pairing and I think Jeff and Britta getting together would be a terrible idea. They just don't work. It's been established in the past and we the audience are over that pairing.

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  16. Whether the majority of viewers are shippers or they aren't (which you can't pin those numbers down anyway) is not relevant to the story being told and this is especially true with a showrunner like Dan Harmon. He's going to tell the story he wants and based on his Twitter feed, he won't be pressured into doing a plot just because some fans threaten to stop watching if he doesn't pair up specific characters.


    In regards to Jeff and Britta, I'm sure there's going to be more to it "than just putting them together" if the past is anything to go by. I don't pretend to know what Harmon is thinking in regards to his vision, I'm just analyzing it based on what I've seen from the show and what he's said in interviews. There's still at least one season left and he's all but guaranteed a movie, so he's probably not going to pair up anyone at this point in time unless there's some conflict involved to drive the story. Perhaps he's echoing season 1 and will have Britta turn Jeff down this time around, but is that too obvious? Maybe he does put them together, I don't know. Up to this point, he's avoided the usual sitcom tropes as you mentioned so even if he does, it still wouldn't be one of those traditional romantic couples that you see on most sitcoms. Whatever happens I'm sure it's going to have a different spin on it.

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  17. No it absolutely would not be believable for Jeff and Annie to get together. If you truly think this then you're a shipper. Based on the writing it would be ridiculous --at this point in the series-- to put them together as a couple. This is why I said if he ever was to do that Harmon would really have to write a long arc to get those two characters into a place where it would make sense because right now it doesn't. I don't see this happening personally but hey, it's always a possibility, who knows.

    "Meaning Jeff would have to be a father at 17 to be old enough to be her father."



    Exactly. That's what I said, he's old enough to be her father. Look, you can give examples of couples that have a wide age difference, it doesn't make Jeff and Annie together any less creepy.

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  18. No a shipper. Just going on what I've seen in the show. I wouldn't bat an eye if they got together. Nothing unbelievable about it for me.

    I completely disagree, as do all the other Community fans I speak to on twitter. Why would it be ridiculous? They both obviously like each other. They've had moments through all 5 seasons. And even Harmon said he loves their chemistry.

    There's nothing creepy about it. As I said, go watch Roman Holiday, My Fair Lady, or Seeking A Friend For The End Of The World. According to your logic, all the couples in those movies are creepy because they have even larger age differences. Also according to your logic, Bogie and Bacall were creepy. They got married when he was 46 and she was 21. They are, to this day, the most iconic couple in the history of Hollywood. if you find them to be creepy, that's your problem, and it shows a severe lack of world experience. Go to the UK or Europe sometime and you'll see couples with 2 decades between all the time.

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  19. Creepy? Sigh. Clearly you've never been outside of the United States. Please do tell what you think the limit is for dating someone older than you. 5 years ? 10? Obviously Hef and his girls are too much, but my entire family watches this show, including my grandparents, and none of us find the J/A potential romance to be creepy? And Jeff and Annie getting together would make a lot more sense than Jeff and Britta since Jeff and Britta haven't been a thing in years.

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  20. I don't care what's acceptable outside of the US, the show is set here. There's a reason there is a controversy over James Franco and that girl on Twitter. He's 35 and she is 17, roughly the same ages as Jeff and Annie when they kissed. Sorry but it's gross. If this sort of thing had happened in real life to my sister or daughter for example, I'd have beat the living crap out of him. He met her when she was still a teenager. It's not like a 50 year old and a 33 year old (which is still weird imo). The point is she's a young women still finding herself and he's already hitting his midlife crisis. Sorry but no amount of telling yourself it's normal and okay won't change the fact that it's creepy.


    To be clear, as it stands now Jeff and Annie getting together would not make any sense. I'll say it again, remove your personal fantasy from the equation and look at what Harmon has written. He even had the character of Annie say she's not in love with Jeff but you crazy J/A shippers refuse to hear what is actually on the screen because it doesn't fit with your fantasy.

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  21. Nico, a relationship with a 17 year age difference where the younger of the two is just out of their teens is frowned upon here in the USA. I understand that it's considered normal or okay where you're from but it's not here.

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  22. Quite right! Sorry if my previous comment seemed like I was trying to disagree, I just meant that based on comments I've seen and people I've talked to I've seen more non-shippers, Jeff/Annie, and then Jeff/Britta, but you're right I can't pin that number down. And not that it really matters at any rate.

    That's one reason I like Dan Harmon so much is that he does what he wants. He may do a lot for the fans (by giving them what they want in that they don't know what they want (Modern Warfare being the first instance)), and he definitely cares about the fans, but they definitely don't sway him in the story he wants to tell. I am curious where he goes with this, but I do agree that Dan will have his own spin on whatever he's doing.

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  23. I don't know what part of the US you're right from, but everywhere I've been, 2 consenting adults who are interested in one another is fine. And 16 years is better than that one actor here that's 60 who married a 16 year old.

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  24. She was 18 when she kissed him, making her a legal consenting adult. Not 17.
    It's gross to you because as Cruz said, you lack world experience. Jeff met Annie when she was 18 and in college.
    You think a 50 year old and a 33 year old is weird? How sad. That must mean you also find the Gloria/Jay marriage on Modern Family to be creepy. So what you're saying is that you should only date people who are the same age? What a sad outlook on life.
    It's only creepy to you. And funny how you had no response to the Bogart/Bacall thing that Cruz mentioned. I forgot how much older he was than her. They had a beautiful relationship and he was the love of her life. Even today's Hollywood couples admire them for how they lasted. They were together until he died. Stop acting as if your opinion on the matter is fact.
    Yes, we are paying attention to what Harmon has written, and what he has written is two people who have feelings for each other. It's not love, but it doesn't have to be. This isn't Twilight. People don't fall in love just after hanging out. They actually have to do date and have a proper romance first. So not love, but feelings.
    Crazy J/A shippers. Ah, there we go. Tell us how you really feel. LOL. I guess you haven't read the IGN interview from Harmon himself that others have mentioned. That sums it up.

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  25. The fact that they are consenting has nothing to do with what I said. It doesn't change the fact that it's still frowned upon and not the norm. I don't know what your point is with your second sentence. Are you trying to say it's okay because some 60 year old married a teenager? Man you people are weird.

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  26. Not here? Really? Cruz mentioned Bogart and Bacall. I did a Wikipedia check to see if he's right. He was. She was 21 and he was in his 40's when they got married. Where I'm from? I live here, buddy. I was born in England, though.

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  27. Ah, name-calling. There we go. Thanks for showing us your true colors. Now I know to ignore you because you have nothing of any merit to contribute.

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  28. It may not be the norm, but it isn't frowned upon, at least not wherever I've been. The point of the 2nd sentence was to show you what would be frowned upon, an age gap of that extreme with someone under 18. Just cause Jeff/Annie is weird for you, doesn't make it weird.

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  29. Exactly. These people seem to think that because they are uptight about such things, that means the rest of us have to be, as well.

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  30. "You stand Jeff next to Annie, you feel the energy crackle off the screen. In other ways than I thought, there is a distinct, chemical lack of chemistry between Jeff and Britta. There's a beautiful kind of ex-girlfriend/sibling, familiar bond between them. I really like to see them go on funny missions together, and I like to see Jeff and Annie go on more idealistic adventures,"
    - Dan Harmon. Ign

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  31. Quite true, I don't get it really. Just cause you don't like it or have a problem with it, doesn't mean the rest of us have to think similarly. Most people I know have no issue with it, since like you and I have said, they're 2 consenting adults.

    At any rate, let's get back on track a little. I'm still looking forward to this episode, and hoping it's not the last.

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  32. Look at you trying desperately to justify things. It's amusing. Again you don't read as I've said I read Dan Harmon's interviews. And yes you crazy shippers --that's what you are-- read into all kinds of stuff and it's even been made fun of on the show several times. It's been a comedy gold mine in more ways than one to be perfectly frank. It's widely known in the Community community :) that you guys are ridiculous and maniacal. You get all hot and bothered if someone doesn't agree with you or if you think Harmon isn't giving your "ship" enough time. It's okay to be a fan of the show and have a favorite pair but try living in the real world once in a while.

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  33. Oh you made it sound like you were from another country. What does bogart have to do with this anyway? You seem awfully upset over a TV show. If you are indeed from the US, then you'd know that very large age gaps are not the norm and are frowned upon, especially when the younger of the two is on the young side. How are you not getting this?

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  34. Now you're just trolling by openly insulting people. Your insults are also very similar to those of a guy on IMDB's Community board called T-dawg or something like that.

    "Again you don't read as I've said I read Dan Harmon's interviews"
    And there it goes. The classic "I know the show-runner better than you" logic. I can see there's no point arguing with you since you have very little respect for others and need to resort to insults to justify your beliefs. We're done here.

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  35. Well I do find it weird but age isn't the only reason.

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  36. Because it's rubbish. It's a laughable taboo that people all over the world roll their eyes at. And Bogart was mentioned by another commenter. He and Bacall are a beloved Hollywood couple even now, and they had a large age difference between them.

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  37. "You stand Jeff next to Annie, you feel the energy crackle off the screen. In other ways than I thought, there is a distinct, chemical lack of chemistry between Jeff and Britta. There's a beautiful kind of ex-girlfriend/sibling, familiar bond between them. I really like to see them go on funny missions together, and I like to see Jeff and Annie go on more idealistic adventures,"

    - Dan Harmon. Ign

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  38. Thanks for admitting it at least and there's nothing wrong with doing so, it's the truth. That was my point that's all.

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  39. And it's idiotic. If that's creepy, then half the romances in movies from Hollywood's golden era are creepy.

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  40. Comment flagged. And yes, it's obvious that you're T-Young from IMDb. Same exact insults towards anyone who says something that gets under your skin.

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  41. Not admitting that people have different viewpoints and don't frown upon it is ridiculous. Just accept that your view isn't the only view in the world.

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  42. Look at you desperately trolling and trying to convince yourself that you understand Harmon's interviews better than everyone else. You had this same exact argument with a bunch of people on IMDb, and even there you refused to be respectful. You went as far ignoring Harmon's own words in favor of taking his comments out of context.
    You truly are a lost cause and there is no point in arguing with you since you seem to watch a different version of the show than the rest of us.
    By the way, the only ship I support from Community is Jeff/Craig Pelton.

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  43. Haha I love it, if there is one person on Community who truly loves another... that is Craig's love for Jeffrey.

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  44. This isn't the golden era, and back then they did try to hide a lot of that stuff for the reasons I mentioned. But again there is a degree of taboo with it as you've said, whether you think it's laughable or not. It's there and that's how many people feel.

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  45. Not many. Just a vocal minority of people who need to get out more often. There's nothing creepy about 2 consenting adults having feelings for one another unless they're more than 30 years apart in age. Annie is now 23. Not a child.

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  46. Yes they have chemistry, that doesn't mean he wrote to that recently. Pay attention. Also this:


    "I love the energy between Jeff and Annie and I'm going to continue to put them on screen together in ways that make people squirm in different ways. She has a schoolgirl crush on him and he has feeling that are somewhere in the vicinity of paternal, romantic and all kinds of innappropriate, weird wonderful flavors of all kinds of things. I like to explore that energy."


    -Dan Harmon TVLine


    so yes even he admits there's a creepiness to it.

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  47. lmao flagged, and for what reason...for telling you how it is and the truth hurts and that you have no comeback?

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  48. Yup, you're T-dawg or whatever your IMDB handle is. Same exact words.

    Harmon admits that some people will find it creepy. He loves playing both sides of the fence: teasing Jeff/Annie shippers and getting them hot and bothered. And then messing with the people who find their relationship to be creepy (which is idiotic). People who have lived a life and been outside of the US know that there's nothing creepy about Jeff/Annie. And if you do find them creepy, I strongly recommend that you don't watch any of the great films Cruz mentioned, two of which are all alltime classics.

    "Yes they have chemistry, that doesn't mean he wrote to that recently. Pay attention."
    And please do tell when he has written Jeff and Britta to have anything romantic between them recently. Pay attention.
    This is becoming tiresome.

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  49. Now you're just being idk what's the word, delusional? Of course they tried to hide things like relationships back in the day! wow. It's all making sense to me now.

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  50. I saw it the first time, in case you missed my reply:

    "I love the energy between Jeff and Annie and I'm going to continue to put them on screen together in ways that make people squirm in different ways. She has a schoolgirl crush on him and he has feeling that are somewhere in the vicinity of paternal, romantic and all kinds of innappropriate, weird wonderful flavors of all kinds of things. I like to explore that energy."

    -Dan Harmon TVLine

    so yes even he admits there's a creepiness to it.

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  51. What are you talking about? In what Golden era film do they hide the age difference between two actors? I think you're confused, buddy. Look at the two classics Cruz mentioned. Roman Holiday, and Breakfast at Tiffany's. I'll throw in another Audrey Hepburn film- Sabrina. All 3 featured romances where the man was clearly at least 15 years older than the woman.

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  52. I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to Darney, who seemed to be fangirling over Jeff/Britta getting together.
    Oh, I see. You got one sock puppet account confused for another. LOL.

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  53. It used to be tiresome to me but now it's quite entertaining. I've never seen people live in a fantasy world before in this manner.

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  54. "It used to be tiresome to me but now it's quite entertaining. I've never seen people live in a fantasy world before in this manner."
    You should look at yourself sometime then, buddy. Getting one sock puppet account confused for another I see. LOL.
    Go on twitter and fight with all the Jeff/Annie shippers if you want. That should make you happy.

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  55. what are you talking about? I'm talking about real life. Wow that like everything else went way over your head. LOL

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  56. Actually, everything went over your head. I was bringing up movies from the golden era. That's what golden era refers to, a period between the 30's and 60's in Hollywood films. How can you not even know that? Community is not real. It's fiction. Sometimes high concept fiction. I'm comparing fiction from one time period to another. That was the point. A point you sadly missed.

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  57. ROFL! Now you're trying to say I am a sock puppet. Careful now, you're really sounding desperate. You're so confused you forgot you originally typed this EXACT comment to me up in that mess of comments. I replied to you up there and I'm replying again. Nice try.

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  58. I'm not the Jeff and Britta fan. I just said it made more sense than your creepy Jeff and Annie ship. Get it together Nico.

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  59. Nice try. This is what you said: I saw it the first time, in case you missed my reply.
    LOL. No one is disputing that YOU saw it the first time. My comment was not directed at you. It was clearly directed at Darnay. Yet you acted like I said the same thing to YOU twice when I clearly did not.

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  60. You can stop replying to me, I don't want to deal with a lunatic. Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall were real people dummy. You are the one that kept talking about them. Learn how to read wow.

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  61. Who said YOU"RE a Jeff/Britta fan? I said Darnay was fangirling over them. LMAO. You're getting your sock puppets mixed up again.

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  62. Cruz mentioned them. Then I just repeated what he said. Then I mentioned the Golden Era, which refers to a period in movies. How can you not even know what the Golden era was? LMAO. Believe me, I don't want to reply to you. And funny how you and bower or whatever his name is never reply at the same time. You're always minutes apart. Very convenient. LMAO.

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  63. Of course you didn't w ant me to see it, that's why I replied. Nice try trying to hide your comments lol. Oh and:

    "Bowser Bowser • 3 minutes ago

    I'm not the Jeff and Britta fan. I just said it made more sense than your creepy Jeff and Annie ship. Get it together Nico."



    Caught you in a lie my friend. You're starting to lose your grip. Also, editing your post won't cover your tracks dear.

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  64. I gotta say this comment thread was pretty interesting to read, considering just how delusional you are about a lot of things, and when you can't come up with an argument then you just resort to name calling.

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  65. Nico, I'd say don't feed this (or quite possibly these) trolls. Leave them to their own sad little corners, or IMDb forums, which are full of em.

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  66. What in the hell are you talking about? What didn't I want you to see? LMAO. You've gone off the deep end. I posted it once to you, and once to someone else who thought Jeff/Britta was actually going to happen... assuming that isn't you.
    Yeah, you, Bowser, said that you're not a Jeff/Britta fan. I never said you were. I said the other guy was fangirling over them. LMAO. Your web is getting sticky, kid.

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  67. No you two are the delusional ones. You're probably the same person because you're both exactly the same. Get some help, it's getting sad now. Or at least go take a reading comprehension class.

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  68. It's not sad, it's freaking hysterical. I have someone over my shoulder following this thread along with me. They're dying lol.

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  69. Good point, ShatteredOne. This is becoming tedious, and it's becoming very obvious that Bowser and the other guy are the same person. He also trolled the IMDB board of Community like this a few days ago. Same insults.

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  70. Responding to yourself. How sad. LMAO. Another comment reported.

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  71. Nope, if you learned to read you'd know what's up dear. Look it's okay that you're a crazy shipper, but you really need to come back down to Earth. It's not healthy. You must spend hours all day on all of these sites, probably Twitter and Facebook too. I mean go out and get some air, or better yet, get a boyfriend instead of a cat and see what a real relationship is like instead of getting so caught up in a fake one that doesn't even exist in its own fake world. :)

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  72. lol flagging because you can't reply with a proper comment. Typical. Please keep 'em comin!

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  73. Let me guess what your response will be:
    blah blah flagged, blah blah Jeff and Annie are perfect for each other, oh you sound like this other commenter who didn't agree with me, so you are the same person, blah blah, sock puppet....lolol let's see

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  74. What are you arguing about, kid? I never said you were a Jeff/Britta shipper. I said that about someone else, and you got all defensive... almost as if you're the same guy. LMAO. My comment this far down was never directed at you.... unless you and Darnay are the same person.

    "Look it's okay that you're a crazy shipper, but you really need to come back down to Earth. It's not healthy. You must spend hours all day on all of these sites, probably Twitter and Facebook too. I mean go out and get some air, or better yet, get a boyfriend instead of a cat and see what a real relationship is like instead of getting so caught up in a fake one that doesn't even exist in its own fake world. :)"
    Congrats. That will be the comment that will get you suspended from this board. Very telling sign that you need to resort to a personal character assassination like that. I'm not the one who gets caught using the same insults on multiple sights. Go see what people on IMDB have said about you since you left the Community board.
    And I'm a straight male, thus the name Nico. Not interested in having a boyfriend as I already have a girlfriend of three years. Nice try. Just talking with you at this point puts me in danger of getting my own account suspended, so that's it. I'm done with this for good. Yeah, you're the end all be all of Community knowledge. You and Harmon are buddies, I'm sure. LMAO. Whatever helps you sleep at night, kid.

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  75. Yes, yes. You're the end all be all of Community knowledge. Harmon is over at your place right now. You have shown me the light. You are god.
    Is that what you wanted to here, kid? LMAO. Goodnight.

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  76. You can edit your comments but copy and paste is my friend. :)
    Honestly I'm worried for you because you're so caught up in this crap that you're accusing people left and right that their either sock puppets or that you know them from another site, etc. It's a bit scare to be honest.
    But really none of that matters though truthfully.
    What does matter is that you won't continue the conversation like a normal human being (pun intended). You keep spouting nonsense and I really am concerned for you. You can flag me if that makes you feel better but what I said still stands. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings but you really do need to calm down a bit with this whole shipper business. You're going to give yourself a heart attack. Lord knows what's going to happen when the show is over and Jeff and Annie never got together.

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  77. Good night, remember to breathe.

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  78. Yay, Jeff/Britta! Finally!

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  79. Are you denying that you're T-Young from imdb? You use the same exact sentences and insults, right down to the same words.

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  80. Oh, and this promo illustrates that the moment appears sincere/hopeful to me. I'm not discounting that J/B might fall apart by the end of the finale, but still, this moment seems heartfelt between them.

    Warning: The promo is very spoilery, don't click if you want to be too spoiled -

    http://paralysedbeaver.tumblr.com/post/81851706009/community-season-5-finale-promo#post-notes

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  81. Hell yeah. Jeff and the Dean. Now that would be an ending to get people talking.

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  82. Who cares? Make an argument, LOL.

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  83. Have you read this comment's section? Trying to argue with someone here results in you getting into a flame war. No thanks.

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  84. I see people replying to you with proper comments. Then I see you being incredibly rude and basically accusing those people of being complete losers with no lives who can't read just because they like some silly ship that you don't. No need for such venom in your posts.

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  85. Back for more Nico? Do you have a legitimate point you'd like to discuss?

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  86. Yes! Thank you! There's been a subtle build-up between them from S4 till, well..since Bondage and Beta Male Sexuality, when Jeff admitted to having feelings for her again. I don't think it's completely out of left field, like some are saying. I know that their moment in the finale appears abrupt, but I've heard that it's still a really nice moment between them.


    I'm really excited! I know it won't amount to anything really, and I can see them having a huge, petty fight and calling it all off, but I still appreciate getting a nice, emotional moment between them. It's been a while!

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  87. Making an argument at this point would just ignite another flame war.

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  88. Geez NBC shouldn't be airing that, holy spoilers Batman! I have some friends and my sister that avoid spoilers like the plague. Thanks for posting that, I'm going to warn them to beware of NBC commercials until Thursday.

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  89. Yeah, but you're demanding for an answer that will most likely go unanswered. It's pointless to even ask.

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  90. I replied with legitimate responses like I am with you. They started getting frustrated and started acting like the crazy shippers I said they were. I was right on the money, those types of people don't want to hear a differing opinion and get extremely upset when you don't agree with their ship or what have you.

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  91. Interesting, curious what they're going to do with this. I'm thinking it stems from Jeff turning 40 and probably freaking out more about life.

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  92. yay notification from someone other than those other two crazies...sorry had a strange conversation here earlier if you can call it that with these two Jeff and Annie shippers, you can guess how that went. Anyway yes it's not out of left field at all and I don't understand people who say that. and I agree that it will be nice to have that emotional moment as you said. I think after five years they've earned it. ^^

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  93. That's what I thought of as well, plus with him admitting that he still has feelings for her in the Beta Male episode, it kinda makes sense? At least, I don't think it appears too far-fetched. The lines can be dotted...

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  94. See, I think the fact they're giving this away in a promo tells me that it DOES fall apart, which makes me sad, but oh well. There's always S6 (hopefully) and the movie, but I'm still in the belief that Jeff will end up alone, but having gained a family.

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  95. Yes and no, there were errors on both sides of the argument. I think there was some delay in some of the responses which is where the confusion came from and the miscommunication was had. We started out with a good conversation at the start of this thread. But then you start throwing around stuff like crazy shippers and making snap decisions about people doesn't put you in a great light.


    At the end of the day, we both love the same show and we should focus on that. The relationships have never, ever been the focus of the show, and I highly doubt they will be in the future. Community has always been about the community that this group represents. I love all their escapades.

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  96. Ya there have been times where you can see something between them, but I always took it like a brother/sister thing (well once they stopped sleeping together... this isn't Game of Thrones... or Bloodlines of Conquest). True, the lines can be dotted. I think Alison Brie was right in a recent interview though, at this point, a relationship between any of the group members would seem a little wrong, not that I'm against it. Although... I do hope Jeff let's Craig down easy.

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  97. I think the JA fans know that this is a pretty big moment that can eradicate the validity of their own ship, should things ramp up again between Jeff/Annie. I mean, if Jeff is being genuine here (which, I think from the promo, it does appear that way), then it makes the path back to Annie less than savory, or less "pure", I guess. Cos the argument could be: if Jeff felt this compelled in seizing control of his life, then why wouldn't he just try and get with Annie?


    He doesn't. That's the issue. He goes with Britta instead. And I think that makes sense - they've always been presented as real friends to me, not "let's pair up because we're in the study group"...like, they socialize together, and know each other's deeper emotional issues.

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  98. Wait this is your whole argument, that I might be someone who posted on another board? Okay you lost me. I'll repeat what I asked above, are people only allowed to post on one site per show now? That's very strange indeed. The comments made by TYoung must have really gotten under your skin if you're stalking them around the internet looking for them. Like I said, scary behaviour from you lot. Why are you so insane about Jeff and Annie that you'd act this way? I really want to know now because it's so freaky lol. I sort of find it interesting from a psychological point of view.

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  99. Oh, that breakdown will be hilarious to watch! Yeah, I think it will certainly shake things up within the group. And I agree to an extent about in-group relationships - I think what McKenna said is what were going to see in the finale, which is how Jeff processes his feelings towards Britta (and Annie, I suppose)...are they feelings out of erotic love or more out of familial love? He gets confused, apparently, LOL. I guess we'll just wait, watch and see. :)

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  100. Yeah but that person wound up acting completely like I said they would. I wasn't hurling insults I was seriously giving an honest description of most Jeff and Annie shippers that I've seen on the internet then they fulfilled that prophecy so to speak.

    But I agree with you about this:
    "At the end of the day, we both love the same show and we should focus on that."



    Very well put. Community is a helluva show and I'm going to miss all of their adventures when it's over.

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  101. I'm going to say this again, you shippers do the same thing, as soon as you find someone that disagrees with you, you say they must be trolling. Then if more than one disagrees with you, they are "the same person." You're an embarrassment to the Community fandom. You are so whacked out that's it not even funny. You stalk people and you throw accusations around. It's funny to me but still. I do feel a little sad for you and I really do think you need to reassess your priorities in life.

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  102. I honestly don't know, I'm a big fan of how Harmon writes but I can't fathom a guess lol. I have talked with others about the possibility of maybe it being a mirror of sorts to season 1. That maybe Britta will actually turn down Jeff like Jeff did to her at the end of season 1. Do you know what I mean?

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  103. That's interesting about Jeff processing his feelings towards Britta in the finale. Jeff getting confused... seems about right. I like that. It'll be continuing the kind of mid-life crisis for Jeff.



    And regardless of if and who we would like to see paired up... I think we can all agree Annie/Britta would be the best. Although, a case could be made for Jeff/Craig too.

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  104. At least from my point of view, I didn't see him acting any crazier than you were in your comments. And I think you have had unfortunate encounters then with Jeff/Annie shippers, since many of the ones I've talked to online (and in person) are not so crazy. Matter of circumstance I guess.


    Here's hoping we get to see our fabled sixth season and then a movie of further adventures before we say goodbye to this marvelous show for good.

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  105. "It'll be continuing the kind of mid-life crisis for Jeff."


    Yes, I agree, it would continue that plotline, especially then the show can have Jeff be involved in more shenanigans before the end, "having changed". That would be the larger realization of Harmon's story circle for him. Of course, I'm biased so I hope that the J/B moment is more of a speed bump for them till the end, but I'm ok if Jeff ends up alone as well, but emerges as a better person.


    Annie/Britta - you're such a "guy". ;) For me, Jeff/Britta, always.

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  106. I don't know man, any time I've left a comment somewhere I'd get jumped on by those shippers. It's happening a lot more lately because of those spoilers I guess and maybe that's why I got a bit terse sooner than I usually do. However that Nico person is a perfect example of what I've encountered. Just pay attention to their interaction, it's really fascinating from a psychological perspective. And I really can't get mad at them because I really think some of them are mentally ill. I don't mean that as an insult, I swear on my mother's grave I'm being legit. So maybe I really should be a bit easier and let them just ramble on, it just gets frustrating when you're trying to have a legitimate discussion but they won't hear the other side of it without getting all worked up.


    As far #sixseasonsandamovie, I just can't believe that here we are five years later, and it might actually be a reality! I know it sucks having shorter seasons for half of it but we're very lucky I think. :) If we do get a sixth season, it will be interesting to see how Harmon finishes the TV version and how it will set up a movie. I might be mistaken but wouldn't that be the first time a television show actually had a planned ending with a movie in mind?

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  107. I think Jeff definitely has changed since the beginning at least. He actually can open up (some) and has admitted he loves the study group. It sucks that it didn't work out trying to be a good guy lawyer, but I like his character development through the whole of the show. I'm with you there, if Jeff ends up alone but a better person, I'd be happy.


    Haha yup, I am a guy so I guess I'm just wired to like the idea of Annie/Britta. I like Jeff/Annie, but I'm not adverse to Jeff/Britta. But if no one gets together, that's fine by me too. The show and the community is more important than the relationships.

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  108. I do. Like, I do see this moment as shades of what happened in Pascal's in which someone's back is up against the wall, in light of a life-changing moment, but like you said, a reversal of that, with somehow Britta being the one to eventually call it off. With that said, I do know what happens in that scene, so I will say that your theory isn't 100% realized, but, I have no idea what happens in 513, so who knows? I've heard theories ranging from Troy to Subway (her ex from S3) coming in to spoil the party, so...hmm...we'll see.

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  109. Maybe it's just a matter of perspective with you having been part of most of the conversation and me just popping up every now and then, but I still don't think Nico was that outrageous in his comments. He was just defending what he believed in. I try to subscribe (although sometimes its hard) to that whole notion of "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."


    True, the shorter seasons leave more to be desired, but at least it's still on the air and we got more of these awesome adventures. I remember Dan said at some event that he could see himself doing a movie on like a period of time between seasons. Think the example he came up with was like a season ends with them going on some trip together, then the next season they come back and say how awesome the trip was, then the movie would be the trip. At any rate, I have faith that whatever Dan comes up with will be awesome.

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  110. Okay I am guessing she says yes then lol. Interesting if that's the case. Well maybe she changes her mind?
    Or if I'm wrong then I don't know, I'm out of ideas. The funny thing is I am not usually one to look at spoilers but I got spoiled by a friend on twitter and I had watched the live feed of Paleyfest so I knew something was up. I just don't know the details. It's strange to be talking about Community spoilers, not sure the last time I've done that. Usually I'm just theorizing or talking with others online about the show and analyzing the writing. So this is new territory for me. I guess nothing can really spoil me now at this point unless it's the final scene of the second part of the finale.

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  111. Right, like it would very odd and confusing to me if Jeff proposes to Britta, she says yes, and then somehow, he goes back to crushing on Annie? Not that that can't happen, but...it all just sounds so soapy and gross. So, that's why I think if J/B falls apart, it's due their own doing.


    About that critic? I know! Although for me, I'm glad I know J/B doesn't have a happy ending at the end of the finale, cos if I hadn't known, I'd end up being blindsided, and would probably make me more upset, LOL. Now that I know, my body is ready.

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  112. See I don't have a problem talking to a rational shipper like you. You don't sound like you're going to go off the deep end if your couple doesn't get together like many of the Jeff/Annie ones I've encountered. I really don't think Dan Harmon is going to do some soap opera love triangle thing though. I tell you I would REALLY be shocked if he did that and would be prepared to eat my words I guess. I've been saying that he doesn't do that sort of thing (the sort of traditional sitcom crap) and watch him be like "f--- it" and just go there again. If he does, the only reason I could see him doing that is if he has some end game thing in mind for the movie or the last season. I don't think he's intentionally trying to string the shippers along.

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  113. I think the whole people getting mad about a show ends and it ruining the show is because of the HIMYM finale. I'm in the group that says that particular finale managed to retroactively ruin the show, which I did not think was possible. I'd say people are just a bit more worried about other shows now because of it.


    Alas, HIMYM is not Community. I have no idea what Dan has planned for the end of this season or the show, but I have no doubt it'll be all kinds of awesome. He's brought us so many wonderful episodes (some not so good, I can admit he has his faults), that I have faith that whatever happens will rock. Haha true, he probably never imagined a movie, or a cult following like the show has, but that's the wonder of it, the ride along the way makes it all the better.

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  114. Ha yup, shipping preferences. I don't let that sway my opinions of people (unless they're ridiculous and are 5 year old girls about it), because at the end of the day we love the same show, we just find additional value from a different facet of it. And if Community has taught me anything, it's that people can find value in a wide assortment of things and that is perfectly A-ok.

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  115. Jeff has always been skittish about his age difference with Annie. That's why he goes to Britta. Because Britta is closer to his own age.

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  116. Link? Sorry, I'm lazy. And how confident are you that we'll get a season 6? I'm nervous as hell. But if Parks and Rec (which I despise) can get renewed with similar ratings, why not Community?

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  117. Link for ?...the promo link is ^ there...

    I'm fairly confident - they're only 3 episodes away from making bank from syndication, so I can't see Sony/NBC offer another 13-episode (at least 13) run for the show. 13 is disappointing, but it's better than nothing. But I'm not sure exactly how all works behind the scenes, but if S6 is determined by Harmon to be the last season, I don't see why not.

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  118. Link for where Collins said that J/A shippers would be happy. Can't find anything about it on his site.

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  119. I don't have a link - I just heard this from various friends on Tumblr who've been told by some anon source. I think it's probably true - as in, JB don't get married, not necessarily that something happens with JA.

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  120. True, but he doesn't have anything past GI Jeff on his own site.

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  121. Yeah, he tweets a lot, so I don't feel like combing through them just to find the one tweet. I'm just assuming that it's true. Who knows...

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  122. The age difference is a factor, yes and probably more so now with the knowledge that Jeff is 40, she 23. But age isn't the only reason as to why Jeff relates better with Britta than he does with Annie. Britta's more on his level - they're both jaded and realistic-minded - and he's shared things with her that he hasn't shared with anyone else.


    They just strike me as genuine friends, beyond just friends in a study group together. That to me indicates that there's a closeness there, and not just a sexual attraction. I'm not saying that's all Annie is to Jeff, but it's kinda not there yet between them in the way it exists with Jeff and Britta. At least, to me....

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  123. LOL, yes...you're right. Good deduction skills! Yeah, I have no idea what happens to turn that around in 513, but apparently a tv critic from Bad Ass Digest (ok, Brian Collins) saw a screener, and said that JA fans should be "stoked" after seeing 513. So, unless there's some other ending that plans on being aired other than the one that was screened, it's clear that any JB goodness is short-lived. I'm just trying to figure out what...


    I hope I didn't reveal too much for you. If I did, I'm sorry. :)

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  124. Oh no worries at all, like I said I can't really be too spoiled at this point. That's interesting though if true, again it could be something akin to Pascal's Triangle Revisited where they do some sort of triangle, although that would make no sense to me if that happened. If he did get a screener, and why he would I'm not sure, I would think he's want to keep his mouth shut if he wants to get another one in the future. I mean if he got one then you know the well-known critics did and they've been professional and kept their mouths shut so far. Then again this is someone who writes for something called Bad Ass Digest so who knows lol.

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  125. Oh yeah I recall him saying something about that. See I think that's what fans should do, to trust that Harmon is going to do his best and just try to enjoy it. I've been seeing people getting mad if it "ends" a certain way, saying it will ruin the entire show for them and stuff. I just think that's a bunch of nonsense. I really think he's going to finish this up strong and will keep to whatever vision he initially had for this show. I just don't think that vision involved doing a movie when he first started out lol.

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  126. Truth. And I'm glad you're not averse to J/B - they're definitely more of the underdog of the two main ships, and it's always nice to hear from someone who doesn't hate them, LOL. Ah well...shipping preferences.

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  127. Me too. :( I'm just scared that it'll end up like Pascal's, some twist that invalidates everything. I'm pretty sure it won't amount to much, but at least we can be happy that they almost got married again. After all, in Abed's student film, he thinks Jeff and Britta will get married.

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  128. What student film?

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  129. "My Hobo Days" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBgI6FlTzqE.
    The funny thing is that some of what Abed wrote actually comes true in later seasons, e.g. Pierce hurts his leg.

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  130. Sure, but as Harmon said in that same interview, Jeff and Britta's bond is more of an ex girlfriend/sibling thing now. Personally, I don't want them to be together as a couple because I think they're too competitive with each and tend to bring out the worst in each other too often.

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  131. And there are real life celebrity couples with larger age differences and no one says they're creepy. 2 examples are Bradley Copper and Suki Waterhouse (he's 39, she's 21), and Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.

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