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Agents of SHIELD - Episode 1.18 - Providence - Sneak Peek

Apr 12, 2014

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46 comments:

  1. Fluffy BunnyApril 11, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    Thanks for the sneak! Can't wait

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  2. GabrielaApril 11, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    Wow um Ward's demeanor is totally different than what we know. But Raina had no idea that Ward was apart of the team which makes me think he is a double agent

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  3. Why Would I Tell?April 11, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    Hello Evil Green Ranger aka Ward's storyline.

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  4. ClaireApril 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    I generally think that ward is in fact Hydra, I interpreted that as "why would he of all people be there" and why didn't the clairvoyant come himself, it will be interesting to see how this mystery unfolds over the next few eps

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  5. someinsanityApril 11, 2014 at 11:36 PM

    I don't think that she doesn't know he is part of HYDRA, she just didn't expect him to be there. Raina probably thought he was still with Coulson and under the impression he was there because of his orders, not the Clairvoyant's.

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  6. Leo BartletApril 11, 2014 at 11:41 PM

    I don't know for some reason I can't buy the fact that he is a committed agent of Hydra. At the same time I think it would be a cop out to find out somewhere down the line he was brainwashed or blackmailed.


    Then we have to contend with a second season of him moping around trying to seek redemption while trying to get his leg over with Skye.

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  7. GabrielaApril 11, 2014 at 11:43 PM

    i still think that ward is eithier being manipulated or is undercover because there is no way that Ward would let Garrett get away with ordering Quinn to shoot Skye. There is no way that Ward is faking his feelings for Skye.
    As well there is one picture where there looks to be an intense conversation between Garrett and Ward. It has to be about Skye.

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  8. GabrielaApril 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    ya i agree. i think that he was on Garett's side but then started to care about the team but i do think that he had no idea that Garrett was the Clairvoyant. Why would they show that look between Coulson and Ward. The way the writers subtly put in details are all planned so....

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  9. John Kelso-MasonApril 11, 2014 at 11:55 PM

    The more I think about it the more it becomes obvious to me that he is indeed a double agent, which kind of ruins quite a bit for me. Fair enough if he actually is HYDRA then Hand is dead (which saddens me) and he was faking his feelings for Skye and the team, most likely. If he is actually just going through the motions it just feels like almost laziness on the part of the writers because it's by far the easier option to go with and also much less exciting or interesting. Plus if he is HYDRA there's a chance he might be killed and the show would be much the better if that happened.

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  10. Leo BartletApril 11, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    I find it rather strange that Hand was all for killing any SHIELD agent she couldn't trust and was only deterred from Killing Coulson and co once she heard the conversation over the radio.

    The same didn't happen with Ward and lets not forget he was originally part of team Garett before he joined Coulson so I would imagine suspicion would have fallen on him quite quickly.

    As for Agent Hand well this is sci-fi and no one really dies in sci-fi.

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  11. Leo BartletApril 12, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    It would be convenient for the writers to make Ward a fully paid up member of HYDRA that might eventually turn against them due in no small part to his feeling for team Coulson and more importantly Skye and it might also help to keep him around to take on HYDRA in season two.


    My only problem with that then is the show will become fairly predictable.


    I should note that I have never been a fan of Ward and I honestly wouldn't miss him if he were to bite the bullet at some point.

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  12. kodiak bearApril 12, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    I'm convinced that Ward is a double agent and that Coulson and Hand were part of the set up to get him into Hydra to gather intel. If it turns out otherwise this will be one of the only times a TV show has completely caught me by surprise. I just hope we find out either way before the end of the season...

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  13. John Kelso-MasonApril 12, 2014 at 12:14 AM

    I could live with that and with the mentions of his family being the ''cable version of the Kennedy's'' there is a chance he has always had SOME level of doubt and does eventually come into the light as it were. Though that would indeed come with the prerequisite series of episodes devoted to his rehabilitation, which I am so not up for at all. If that were the case and he died in the season finale for example, that could totally work though.

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  14. StephApril 12, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    No, that just means he was DEEP cover. That probably means he's in the upper echelons of HYDRA.

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  15. StephApril 12, 2014 at 12:42 AM

    Yessss evil Ward! This is going to be amazing. Glad to see Raina back, I loved her and her amazing manipulation techniques.

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  16. ShayApril 12, 2014 at 12:42 AM

    She seemed scared considering it was just the 2 of them...I'd like to think that means she wasn't the one he told Lorelai he had feelings for.

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  17. Leo BartletApril 12, 2014 at 12:46 AM

    It will be interesting to see here reaction to finding out (if she didn't already know) who the clairvoyant really is and the fact that he doesn't have any magical powers that tells him everyone's deep dark secrets.


    I predict she might be a little despondent to find out it's a SHIELD/HYDRA agent on a power trip.

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  18. Leo BartletApril 12, 2014 at 12:48 AM

    Yea you make a good point about the cable Kennedy's and we have like the rest of the team little or no back story on Ward.


    It will be a cop out on the part of the writers to suggest he is or was HYDRA because he had a shitty family.

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  19. StephApril 12, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    I don't ship characters on this show, but I could ship them. Hot, evil power couple!

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  20. MoniqueMApril 12, 2014 at 12:53 AM

    If they kill Ward I will stop watching this show.

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  21. lorepottterApril 12, 2014 at 12:55 AM

    In one of the interviews i read, i think is was Jed Whedon who said that the winter soldiers was being manipulated, they erased his mind, so why cant they doing the same to Ward?

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  22. someinsanityApril 12, 2014 at 12:57 AM

    I see your point.. but i don't know. I am just very wary of Ward and his intentions since the reveal. I don't doubt that he has genuine feelings for Skye but I don't think Garrett or whoever else involved would consult Ward on the decision to shoot her. I don't think he's either undercover or manipulated, although I do think he will come to realize the mistakes he made and try to atone for them in some shape or form.


    But who knows, maybe I just really want them to make Ward a legit Hydra agent, it just makes him that much more interesting and I would really hate if this is just some big ruse. I want the producers to have the guts to stick to their decision and not pull some PLL crap.

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  23. SlimnebApril 12, 2014 at 2:02 AM

    Every interview Whedon and co. gave after the episode KEPT talking about Winter Soldier and how Bucky was all mind controlled and all that, and comparing that situation to Ward. Go and find them. Ward has totally been brainwashed all this time. I do wish it was a long con and Hand is still totally alive :(

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  24. GabrielaApril 12, 2014 at 2:32 AM

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/devlin712/news/?a=97933#g8id4prK92OEqlM3.99
    here is an article that may clear up some stuff about Ward and Hand

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  25. GabrielaApril 12, 2014 at 2:37 AM

    read this article it clears a little up. As well i did not mean that Garrett would consult Ward on shooting Skye. I meant that since he knows that Garrett is possibly the Clairvovant that he would sit around and do nothing.

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  26. lizziegoneastrayApril 12, 2014 at 4:04 AM

    All it makes me think is that Hydra is so super secretive, even the agents involved don't know who all the other agents are. [Spoilers for Winter Soldier, if you haven't seen it] In Winter Soldier, the one guy signals to Agent Sitwell that he's Hydra after seeing Sitwell's lapel pin, which apparently gives away that he's Hydra, by whispering "Hail Hydra" in his ear. The whole exchange implied to me that they didn't know they were both members until that moment. It's just like how Nick Fury explained compartmentalizing: nobody gives away all the Hydra agents' names, because nobody knows them all.


    So Ward was probably Hydra all the while, and Raina just didn't know he was Hydra because he wasn't on the limited list of names she had.

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  27. lizziegoneastrayApril 12, 2014 at 4:06 AM

    Oh, plenty of people die in sci-fi, but nobody dies in superhero comics, which is what it's based on.


    Also, I thought Hand was fairly clear that she strongly preferred to capture Coulson and his team, but that her men were authorized to use lethal force if necessary (presumably as a last resort).

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  28. lizziegoneastrayApril 12, 2014 at 4:11 AM

    I'm also definitely interested in that. I can easily see Raina betraying the "Clairvoyant" to Coulson and the team out of bitter disillusionment. She really believed in the Clairvoyant; she obviously felt real reverence for him. He was her higher power. To have that kind of belief betrayed... well, I'd imagine she'll be rather pissed. She'll either betray Hydra or get killed almost as soon as she finds out. I'm hoping for the first option; I always like it when heroes and villains alike are complex. For instance, I always really liked how Spike teamed up with Buffy to stop Angel from destroying the world. It made sense for his character and made the whole situation more interesting.

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  29. lizziegoneastrayApril 12, 2014 at 4:17 AM

    If they do the brainwashing copout, I fully expect them to write it so that he was brainwashed the entire season and has little or no idea who Skye is when he's better. Then make him leave the team for a while to figure out who *he* is now, without all these people giving him orders. That's the only way to make that storyline anywhere near as compelling as "Ward is an evil bastard hiding in plain sight who knows every weakness on the team, emotional or otherwise, and is fully willing to exploit every one of them."

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  30. ReozenApril 12, 2014 at 4:19 AM

    She was probably out of the loop she didn't even know who the Clairvoyant was.

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  31. MatthewApril 12, 2014 at 7:14 AM

    i get very very suspicous when someone gives their gun to someone else to shoot a 3rd party. Very suss.

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  32. John Kelso-MasonApril 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Thanks for that, it certainly sheds some new light on the theories I had, but it also basically confirms Hand is 100% dead which is oddly disappointing. I know she wasn't supposed to be particularly sympathetic or empathetic as a character, but I really liked the sort of 'by the rules' vibe she brought to it, especially as she acted as the 'straight guy' to much of the MCU/Coulson's team insanity.

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  33. John Kelso-MasonApril 12, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    I think it could be that, like he felt he had to 'prove' himself to his dad (let's be honest, that's the most likely version of events if they go down that path) and went through the HYDRA motions for all this time and did all this to capture/trick/kill Garret. The annoying thing is that seems like a very plausible version of events, but also one I would struggle to have any investment in or enthusiasm about. The article below is quite interesting though, so I guess I'm just totally overthinking all this and need to just wait and see.

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  34. percysownerApril 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    Except Hand didn't give her gun to Ward. I rewatched the scene. She asks Ward if he wants to kill the real Clairvoyant. The camera then stays on Ward.He stands up and pulls a gun (out of sight). you hear the gun making clicking noises as he chambers the weapon. His hands are also down and that happens out of sight, but he does NOT reach toward Victoria Hand for gun. or reach out a hand or an arm to take one from her. He may not have killed Hand, although I think the blood is a pretty good indication that he at least wounded her, but she did not hand him the gun that shot her and the other agents.

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  35. percysownerApril 12, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    I would be disappointed if Ward is merely under cover. I would also be less than happy if he were brainwashed, but I could accept that more. Frankly Ward looks more interesting to me as a "bad guy" than as the bland hero he was before. It does make the flashback about the kid in the well more interesting. At the time I argued that Ward was the one who wanted to rescue the kid and the other boy who wouldn't let the kid be rescued was an older brother or just an older kid who was giving orders. I now wonder if I was wrong and Ward was the one keeping the kid from being rescued. There was a debate at the time an I don't think it was clarified who was who.

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  36. Jay AtkinsonApril 12, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    To me it seemed like she knew exactly who he was - aka The Clairvoyant's personal hit-man and that she feared he was going to cross her off, rather than that he was there as a part of Coulson's team. I always got the impression she wasn't scared of Coulson and his team but seemed very much afraid of Ward.

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  37. Luke FarmerApril 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    I never considered that at all before, good call. If he was responsible for his brother's death that would further convince me he's no under cover

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  38. principe.encantadorApril 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    This scene is strange for me. SHIELD wanted to arrest Clairvoyant but Ward killed the false one. Then they arrested the real Clairvoyant and I wonder why Vic Hand would want to kill him. I think Hand, Coulson and Ward had planned the scene in order to Garrett thought Ward had switched sides.

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  39. Aryam Manzueta AvilaApril 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    The Winter Soldier is THE Winter Soldier, and Ward is just... ward.

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  40. Alex ForrestApril 13, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    This is one of the reasons I suspect a fake-out. Granted, sometimes shows have characters act in strange, OOC ways to facilitate the plot. But why would Hand want Garrett executed? When HYDRA has infiltrated SHIELD to the core, and you have a HYDRA operative in custody, the obvious play is to squeeze him for every nugget of information he has about HYDRA. Granted, maybe Garrett wasn't that high up in the organization, but it makes no sense whatsoever that Hand would throw away the ONE card she has for the sake of a little revenge. So this could all be Coulson and Hand's plan to have Ward gain Garrett's trust and infiltrate HYDRA. Not only is it possible Ward used an icer (Hand and the guards could've had fake blood on them or something), but perhaps he only even shot Life Model Decoys. Fury and Hill had those, for example, and Hand is a high-ranking SHIELD operative like them.

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  41. Alex ForrestApril 13, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    I'm pretty sure that in the end of 1x16, Hand told her men to take out everyone on the plane, but leave Coulson ("He's mine"). I guess she thought he was the Clairvoyant, or the only one with useful information at least, while the others were dispensable foot soldiers. What I want to know is why she would ask Ward to execute Garrett, the only HYDRA agent she had in custody - she could've grilled him for information on the enemy. Killing him makes no sense, so either Hand was being uncharacteristically dumb for the sake of a cool scene/twist (telling Ward to shoot Garrett only for him to shoot the guards and Hand, instead), or this is a hint that it's all Coulson and Hand's ploy to send Ward undercover.

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  42. Alex ForrestApril 13, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    I'm okay with whatever direction they take Ward's character EXCEPT having him truly be HYDRA, and then making him "see the light" and turn good via his true lurve for Skye. I would throw my laptop out of the window if that happened.

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  43. lizziegoneastrayApril 13, 2014 at 9:32 PM

    Oh, you're right, she did. That's weird; it directly contradicts what she told her soldiers after Coulson&co were inside the Hub.


    I would not put it past this show to have just made Hand uncharacteristically dumb for the sake of a plot twist, tbh. There seems to be no particular creative drive behind this show beyond the desire to give fans what they want, which generally results in bad writing.

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  44. lorepottterApril 14, 2014 at 1:01 AM

    I know, the thing is, they look like maybe something like that happened to Ward

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  45. Aryam Manzueta AvilaApril 14, 2014 at 5:52 AM

    It could be. I think he doesn't want to be bad anymore; maybe because he is in love with Skye, or maybe something diferent, but I feel like that

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  46. lorepottterApril 14, 2014 at 6:20 AM

    We just dont want him to be bad :)

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