This episode was full of beautiful Steroline. If you seriously think that bed scene was just two friends laying together, then you're lying to yourself. Or you ship Stelena and Klaroline hardcore and you're staying blissfully ignorant by choice.
Ok the first 50 minutes I felt cheated!! But then the feeling quickly went away. Squeeee!!!! (ohh i can't help it. Leave me alone) Steroline totally had me grinning like a school girl!!! THEY'RE SO FREAKING CUTE!!!! gah!! I love it. That was adorable. And it was Stefan! It wasn't!! And not the stupid doppelganger Tom!!! Which btw i gotta say. He is one chippy fellow! LOL That was a breath of fresh air that was!! I took a big whiff of that! B/c i knew it could be gone in a matter of minutes. Ding Dong the doppelganger's dead, Delena said goodbye, and Steroline in bed!! (Clapping hands).
Ok, there was a lot of good one liners tonight. Damon and Enzo really had me laughing all night. I loved Enzo's "I'm joking. I joke, British Humor." Hahaha that was funny. Damon yelling at Jeremy about his penmanship was hilarious! And my god Jeremy had the worst timing ever!! I was thinking, you've got to be kidding me. HOWEVER, I gotta give it up to Jeremy tonight. Jeremy's got his big boy pants on!! Daring Damon. Telling Elena how it's gonna be. Making deal with Witches. Calling the shots..HELL YEAH LITTLE GILBERT!! And i loved seeing more Matty blue blue tonight. Minimal but always enjoyable.
Damon and Elena....sigh, idk what i'm gonna do about these two. Haha they're my OTP. That'll never go away. But them at the PTA meeting, killed me! Elena: He would never cheat, he's learned his lesson. Teacher: Jeremy has cheated on his Math test...Twice!" Damon: (Pretend shock, sarcasm ensued) "Cheating?? (Turns to Elena) That is so unlike him!" CTFU!! I was dying. And then with Damon saving Elena from Liv, and he goes, "If you don't start talking, one of us is gonna break your neck..SPOILER ALERT! It's gonna be me!!" Lmao that was awesome. Sigh, gotta love the Damon-liners... And i'm glad it was Jeremy's choice to put Damon as his Emergency Contact. Damon could be a dick all he wants. But Jeremy still treats Damon like a big brother. Idt that'll ever change. And i hope it doesn't. And as for my OTP...i was glad their break up went as easily as it did. And they do need a break, so i'm not mad.
Bonnie...not much to say about her. But i didn't think Markos was going to come out of her!! That was weird (and for those of you who haven't seen the episode yet, yes that sentence makes no sense to you. lol), i wonder who's gonna find her?
Enzo and Caroline. Enzo was good tonight. Him and Caroline during the magazine scene. Was awesome. I just kept laughing at how annoyed she kept getting. She's such an easy target. But apparently so is he when it comes to the "mysterious" Maggie! Ugh! When Caroline hit his nerve, did you see his eyes?? Dude was about to turn on the waterworks! I couldn't believe that. It was like a switch for him.
This episode wasn't as great as i wanted it to be. But for me, it didn't suck either. I just NEED to bring this up one more time...Steroline in bed...first time ever...it was great!! Caroline: "So what do we do now?" Stefan:" We go to sleep." Caroline: Ha, that's heroic." Hahaha And i liked when Stefan said: "This is it...here take my hand." Then Caroline has this dazed look in her face, didn't even look down at his hand, just reached in the air. And Stefan, just took her and vamp sped the hell outta there. Hahaha That was awesome. Think i'm going to re-watch that a few times. = P
Still don't like Delana but I don't want Stefan/Elana together either. I'd eather Delana be together just minimize their screentime (never going to happen, I know). I liked the Bonnie stuff at the end that got really interesting. I loved all of the Caroline/Stefan scenes, I hope the show actually goes there, they're so much fun together.
I'm glad you liked it and I bet people reading your comments are going to think they had sex if they haven't seen it yet since you said they slept together and were in bed together. There was Steroline throughout the episode the phone call to Stefan and even her conversations with Tom and Enzo even though some of them were implied mostly from Enzo to Caroline.
I gather that Tom was killed to make Stefan and Elena's blood more powerful just so that the Travelers could drink it and sacrifice themselves to bring Markos back. They are a cult. I seem to remember Kol mentioning to Elena a cult that tried to raise Silas to get him to lift the veil and let every dead supernatural out. Kol said that he killed everyone in the cult. Elena was so obsessed with the Cure that she still helped Jeremy kill Kol. I'm not saying that Kol shouldn't have been dealt with. It was either him or Jeremy, and it's possible that Kol couldn't have been bargained with or trusted. However, I can see why Kol might suddenly reappear. The Travelers could be old enemies of Kol. Another possibility is that Kol will only appear for one episode or scene because producers are tired of people complaining about him being dead.
I found it very interesting that Tom was kidnapped when Silas was killed. I think the spoilers are pointing to Markos being responsible for the doppelganger curse. He might have brought Silas and Amara together when he was alive, unless he predates them, or he could be a child they had that no one knew about. A connection, however loose, has been established. Silas was a true believer in the curse to the point that he was afraid that being around Elena would hurt his reunion with his one true love. If travelers tried to raise Silas before to get him to lift the veil, they might have been planning to make the same deal with him that the now-dead Travelers made with Enzo. Travelers in the past might have wanted to offer to reunite Silas with Amara in exchange for his help lifting the veil. I'm only speculating, though.
I was glad to see Jeremy step up and be a man. Elena needed a wake-up call. Her behavior with Damon is destructive to herself and the people around her. Liv was getting tortured, and all that Elena could think about was her twisted love life. It was sad. Honestly, I don't see how the writers can keep up the love triangle after this season without some kind of serious reboot. Whatever plot twist is supposed to be coming in the season finale will have to be a serious change, such as who is in the love triangle. Steroline might be entertaining for one arc, but I don't think it would last and it isn't a big enough change. Delena is a vicious cycle that got old a long time ago. The plot twist is supposed to wreck the brothers' relationship, so it'll probably be something really huge.
For a minute, I thought Bonnie was a goner. Since she's the anchor, Markos had to pass back through her to exit the Other Side. I guess all of that activity made her pass out from pain and exhaustion. The Other Side will probably start disintegrating because Markos will start waking up more of the dead and playing with the veil. So many Travelers sacrificed themselves that their lives can be exchanged for anyone who served Markos when he was alive, unless the Travelers WERE those people, just in different bodies. Bonnie will have to decide if it's really worth it keeping the Other Side around if it can be manipulated in such a damaging way.
No no no. I teased but I chose my words carefully. I never said they "slept" together. I said they were in bed. (Or trunk or tent w/e u wanna call it) That doesn't mean they had sex. BUTTTT if people who've not seen the episode yet want to think that. Then they're just a bunch of horn dogs, and probably are over due for some happy time.(jk sorta) Hahahaha That's their choice. But anyways yes I did enjoy the episode.
There were some parts I really liked, and some I didn't. But the last ten min. Pretty mheadsved the entire episode for me. And you're right. There was Steroline throughout the episode. But I didn't want them apart for too long. (Mostly b/c I really wanted to see if my theory was correct. Half it was half it wasn't) Especially after he joked with her last week. And I wanted to see how they would talk it out once she got back. Swoon...I loved the way they talked it out. But you know what I loved most about that part? That they felt so comfortable laying side by side. And cuddling with their heads.
At first when Stefan suggested they'd go to sleep. And she laughed, I thought she was gonna say no. But she didn't she stayed on topic. But for me, I kept thinking, wow they really are comfortable. Why are they so comfortable? Have they slept in sync like that.before?? Off screen apparently. W/e idc about the point where they became comfortable enough to be in that position....it was just nice to see. Now I can enjoy all the upcoming fanvids til the show returns. = p
They've always been my GPC (guilty pleasure couple). Based on tonight's episode. After I watched just their scenes (about 10 times already hehe). I'd have to say that Caroline is feeling more for Stephen. Like she's questioning it in her mind more. Stefan is being a little more subtle about it. I think he feels that it's there, but he doesn't know that it's there....not yet. There might be a "hint" on his side, but he hasn't quite figured it out yet. I'm hoping he does by the next episode. Caroline is definitely recognizing her "what if" feelings I kinda wanna see Stefan do it, when Caroline isn't looking. Switch it up a bit.
I know lol just saying it can be implied that way for others. What was your theory and how was it half and half? I really liked the episode but that's mostly because of Steroline and when the show comes back I really don't want the love triangle at all or even just Stefan and Elena please Julie let that be done already. Yeah, I loved that scene to and to see they they're so comfortable with each other I wasn't really sure what was going to happen it looked like an almost kiss but guess they wanted us to believe that and I'm sure you loved it when she got even closer to him and layed on him.
My theory was...you know what I can't remember right now. Hahahaha. I'm exhausted. Right now I'm omw to work, and I only got an hour n a half is sleep. So I might have to answer that question later. Yeah I really don't like what JP is doing. I believe Stefan has moved on for awhile. Not b/c of delena or St Elena being apart or together, just in general. And he's better for it. I've never liked Stefan, still don't, but he's had his moments where I give him cred. But afteR 5 Yrs I can finally say i like him this way, HEALTHY! And i think Caroline is a big part of that. It would be REALLY messed up if they made Stefan back track after he's finally in a good place. He doesn't deserve that (wow i never though i'I'd say that. Lol) everyone deserves to move on from their first loves,and now it's Stefan's turn. I mean everyone on that show has moved on from their first love, EXCEPT for him. And I just don't think that's right or fair!
As for that scene with Caroline moving closer, hell yeah you better believe it buddy. LOL as she was smiling at Stefan while his eyes were closed. In that moment i felt, she felt more appreciated and more observed then ever before. Stefan knows her. And iI think she takes real comfort in that. When she put her head to his, and he leaned his head in on top of hers..that was the best moment for me honestly. But iI didn't think they were gonna kiss. Will they kiss before the season ends?? I have no clue, but iI would like that very much. But first i'dI'd like them to talk about their feelings for one another. And for some reason iI want Caroline to be the one to kiss him. Maybe b/c last night and the week before iI saw her questioning her feelings first. So since she's noticing it now, i'I'd say it's kinda killing her, and she doesn't know how to go about it.
I'll tell you one thingI can't wait for this episode to air when it returns, b/c iI know she'll feel a little jealous and iI want Stefan to tease her about it. Lol iI love when he jokes with her.
Marlo's was stuck on the other side and those travelers sacrificed themselves using those buckets of Stefan and Elena's blood to release him. Bonnie was stuck in the middle because she is the anchor but I don't think she is part of their plan now.
The episode was maybe the only good one in a long-time, but still overall TVD has just gone off the rails, it's not even nearly as good as in season 2 or 3, it's just got boring...
Ever since Caroline Dries took over TVD (Julie handed it to over when TO was picked) TVD turned into a nonsense ship-baiting love-triangle bullshit.
Please CW, fire Caroline Dries, I can understand when Julie wants to have more time for her other shows (show, when TTP is cancelled) so how about you bring back Kevin Williamson?
Kevin Williamson last episode was 3x01, since that he didn't produced/writed one single episode, he has done nothing since for TVD (maybe going to Comic-Con but that would be the only thing) and until season 3 TVD was fine, bring him back so he can turn TVD back to it's good storylines.
Hitting a 0,7 rating is clearly a sign that the viewers are not happy.
I was thinking in terms of either/or. If Markos is Silas and Amara's child, just being around him would cause doppelgangers to want to engage in the act if they're the last two. That could be part of Markos' power, or a curse put on HIM. The only other explanation for Markos that I can think of that matches up with spoilers is that he created doppelgangers, probably not with a curse in mind, long before Silas and Amara were born. People think of werewolves as subjects of a curse because their bones break at the full moon, but it's actually just a gene that was probably created by travelers (since they predate witches, and werewolves apparently predate the Original Witch) and the gene can be passed on through the generations. There still isn't a genuine backstory giving an explanation for werewolves. Vampires are the youngest supernatural species (Silas was immortal and refused to be called a vampire), so what if somewhere down the line, vampires are thought of as cursed, even though they started with a dark witch who feared for her children's lives so much that she made them blood-drinking killers?
I'm getting ahead of myself. What I'm trying to say is that Markos might not have initially intended to generate an actual curse. He has a very old Latin name and is played by an actor with a Greek name, which tells me that Markos may be older than any creature that the Mystic Falls crowd has faced. He's been on the Other Side, but he predates it and therefore could probably manipulate and destroy it. Life in Markos' time might have been different, and there could have been circumstances behind what he did, if he did anything. The point of this arc is to finally trace doppelgangers back to the person or event that started it all, and determine whether legends and mysteries surrounding the doppelganger species are actually true. If not, Markos is probably forcing the so-called curse to come true since Stefan would never let his feelings for Elena cause chaos in his life or his family. Elena would never want that either.
I've never been much of a Steroline fan, I do like them but until this episode I wasn't cheering for them or anything. After this thou, I ADORE them! They were so sweet and had such a great chemistry, I hope we get more of this and Elena stays out of the way.
I hate what they've turned Delena into, the only reason I wanted them together was because I thought Damon deserved something good for a change and because he makes Elena a lot less boring and obnoxious. But now they're makeing them both annoying and they throw one of the best characters (Damon) to the garbage, all for the sake of a nother love triangle. I sincerely hope they get their act together cause they're screwing everything up. And when I say they I mean writers and those responsible for this mess.
Not the most exciting episode and I find the Traveller story very dull. I like that Jeremy is somewhat taking charge, but based on his relationship with the new witch, it looks like the writers are going for another Bonnie heartbreak. I really wish they would stop using Bonnie and Tyler as their punching bag and give them both a decent story. To me, the only redeeming thing about this episode was the Stefan Caroline part. I think that the writers have really done a terrific job developing the relationship between these two characters, and their moments together were very sweet. I hope they don't screw it up.
Right?? I'm getting so tired of people saying, "It'll ruin the friendship. It'll ruin the friendship." Ummm, no it won't!! Just b/c two friends take the next step doesn't mean they're doomed. Jesus! Some people have been watching wayyy too much drama. I feel b/c Caroline and Stefan are bff's that their relationship WHEN they take that next step, will be EPIC! And if they have to break up, their feelings for one another, and their friendship will NOT go away....Besides the awkwardness of breaking it to Elena, and everybody else. Forget that. I mean just them. You know i think they should start off like Chandler and Monica. Not in the FWB sense. But in a way they they can share their own company together, possibly having their first date, (or kiss) W/o anyone knowing. You know? Like just enjoying their time experimenting with each other, before it becomes world wide information. (rolls eyes).
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awesome.. but what is Markos? spirit of the Travelers? or is he gain Bonnie's anchor power? I don't really understand
ReplyDeleteThis episode was full of beautiful Steroline. If you seriously think that bed scene was just two friends laying together, then you're lying to yourself. Or you ship Stelena and Klaroline hardcore and you're staying blissfully ignorant by choice.
ReplyDeleteyeah, it was nice.. but the Traveler-storyline getting more exciting..
ReplyDeleteI used to hate Enzo.. 'til this episode :D
ReplyDeleteI'm confused. They didn't really explain Markos/what happened with Bonnie/the travellers.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure they will in EP18
ReplyDeleteOk the first 50 minutes I felt cheated!! But then the feeling quickly went away. Squeeee!!!! (ohh i can't help it. Leave me alone) Steroline totally had me grinning like a school girl!!! THEY'RE SO FREAKING CUTE!!!! gah!! I love it. That was adorable. And it was Stefan! It wasn't!! And not the stupid doppelganger Tom!!! Which btw i gotta say. He is one chippy fellow! LOL That was a breath of fresh air that was!! I took a big whiff of that! B/c i knew it could be gone in a matter of minutes. Ding Dong the doppelganger's dead, Delena said goodbye, and Steroline in bed!! (Clapping hands).
ReplyDeleteOk, there was a lot of good one liners tonight. Damon and Enzo really had me laughing all night. I loved Enzo's "I'm joking. I joke, British Humor." Hahaha that was funny. Damon yelling at Jeremy about his penmanship was hilarious! And my god Jeremy had the worst timing ever!! I was thinking, you've got to be kidding me. HOWEVER, I gotta give it up to Jeremy tonight. Jeremy's got his big boy pants on!! Daring Damon. Telling Elena how it's gonna be. Making deal with Witches. Calling the shots..HELL YEAH LITTLE GILBERT!! And i loved seeing more Matty blue blue tonight. Minimal but always enjoyable.
Damon and Elena....sigh, idk what i'm gonna do about these two. Haha they're my OTP. That'll never go away. But them at the PTA meeting, killed me! Elena: He would never cheat, he's learned his lesson. Teacher: Jeremy has cheated on his Math test...Twice!" Damon: (Pretend shock, sarcasm ensued) "Cheating?? (Turns to Elena) That is so unlike him!" CTFU!! I was dying. And then with Damon saving Elena from Liv, and he goes, "If you don't start talking, one of us is gonna break your neck..SPOILER ALERT! It's gonna be me!!" Lmao that was awesome. Sigh, gotta love the Damon-liners... And i'm glad it was Jeremy's choice to put Damon as his Emergency Contact. Damon could be a dick all he wants. But Jeremy still treats Damon like a big brother. Idt that'll ever change. And i hope it doesn't. And as for my OTP...i was glad their break up went as easily as it did. And they do need a break, so i'm not mad.
Bonnie...not much to say about her. But i didn't think Markos was going to come out of her!! That was weird (and for those of you who haven't seen the episode yet, yes that sentence makes no sense to you. lol), i wonder who's gonna find her?
Enzo and Caroline. Enzo was good tonight. Him and Caroline during the magazine scene. Was awesome. I just kept laughing at how annoyed she kept getting. She's such an easy target. But apparently so is he when it comes to the "mysterious" Maggie! Ugh! When Caroline hit his nerve, did you see his eyes?? Dude was about to turn on the waterworks! I couldn't believe that. It was like a switch for him.
This episode wasn't as great as i wanted it to be. But for me, it didn't suck either. I just NEED to bring this up one more time...Steroline in bed...first time ever...it was great!! Caroline: "So what do we do now?" Stefan:" We go to sleep." Caroline: Ha, that's heroic." Hahaha And i liked when Stefan said: "This is it...here take my hand." Then Caroline has this dazed look in her face, didn't even look down at his hand, just reached in the air. And Stefan, just took her and vamp sped the hell outta there. Hahaha That was awesome. Think i'm going to re-watch that a few times. = P
I swear they've been saving the episodes for me lately. Aww it was so beautiful. Then when they changed positions...I literally got chills. = )
ReplyDeleteFinally the Dullena nightmare is over, hopefully for good! TVD is fighting back.
ReplyDeleteLoved those scenes, I look forward to more, I always had a soft spot for Caroline/Stefan.
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ReplyDeleteStill don't like Delana but I don't want Stefan/Elana together either. I'd eather Delana be together just minimize their screentime (never going to happen, I know). I liked the Bonnie stuff at the end that got really interesting. I loved all of the Caroline/Stefan scenes, I hope the show actually goes there, they're so much fun together.
ReplyDeleteThey're not my OTP but yes they're cute
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you liked it and I bet people reading your comments are going to think they had sex if they haven't seen it yet since you said they slept together and were in bed together. There was Steroline throughout the episode the phone call to Stefan and even her conversations with Tom and Enzo even though some of them were implied mostly from Enzo to Caroline.
ReplyDeleteI gather that Tom was killed to make Stefan and Elena's blood more powerful just so that the Travelers could drink it and sacrifice themselves to bring Markos back. They are a cult. I seem to remember Kol mentioning to Elena a cult that tried to raise Silas to get him to lift the veil and let every dead supernatural out. Kol said that he killed everyone in the cult. Elena was so obsessed with the Cure that she still helped Jeremy kill Kol. I'm not saying that Kol shouldn't have been dealt with. It was either him or Jeremy, and it's possible that Kol couldn't have been bargained with or trusted. However, I can see why Kol might suddenly reappear. The Travelers could be old enemies of Kol. Another possibility is that Kol will only appear for one episode or scene because producers are tired of people complaining about him being dead.
ReplyDeleteI found it very interesting that Tom was kidnapped when Silas was killed. I think the spoilers are pointing to Markos being responsible for the doppelganger curse. He might have brought Silas and Amara together when he was alive, unless he predates them, or he could be a child they had that no one knew about. A connection, however loose, has been established. Silas was a true believer in the curse to the point that he was afraid that being around Elena would hurt his reunion with his one true love. If travelers tried to raise Silas before to get him to lift the veil, they might have been planning to make the same deal with him that the now-dead Travelers made with Enzo. Travelers in the past might have wanted to offer to reunite Silas with Amara in exchange for his help lifting the veil. I'm only speculating, though.
I was glad to see Jeremy step up and be a man. Elena needed a wake-up call. Her behavior with Damon is destructive to herself and the people around her. Liv was getting tortured, and all that Elena could think about was her twisted love life. It was sad. Honestly, I don't see how the writers can keep up the love triangle after this season without some kind of serious reboot. Whatever plot twist is supposed to be coming in the season finale will have to be a serious change, such as who is in the love triangle. Steroline might be entertaining for one arc, but I don't think it would last and it isn't a big enough change. Delena is a vicious cycle that got old a long time ago. The plot twist is supposed to wreck the brothers' relationship, so it'll probably be something really huge.
For a minute, I thought Bonnie was a goner. Since she's the anchor, Markos had to pass back through her to exit the Other Side. I guess all of that activity made her pass out from pain and exhaustion. The Other Side will probably start disintegrating because Markos will start waking up more of the dead and playing with the veil. So many Travelers sacrificed themselves that their lives can be exchanged for anyone who served Markos when he was alive, unless the Travelers WERE those people, just in different bodies. Bonnie will have to decide if it's really worth it keeping the Other Side around if it can be manipulated in such a damaging way.
I don't ship it. But yea they are cute and def more than friends.
ReplyDeleteBest part of the episode Jeremy stepping up and taking control of his life and doing what he wants to do for a change.
ReplyDeleteNo no no. I teased but I chose my words carefully. I never said they "slept" together. I said they were in bed. (Or trunk or tent w/e u wanna call it) That doesn't mean they had sex. BUTTTT if people who've not seen the episode yet want to think that. Then they're just a bunch of horn dogs, and probably are over due for some happy time.(jk sorta) Hahahaha That's their choice. But anyways yes I did enjoy the episode.
ReplyDeleteThere were some parts I really liked, and some I didn't. But the last ten min. Pretty mheadsved the entire episode for me. And you're right. There was Steroline throughout the episode. But I didn't want them apart for too long. (Mostly b/c I really wanted to see if my theory was correct. Half it was half it wasn't) Especially after he joked with her last week. And I wanted to see how they would talk it out once she got back. Swoon...I loved the way they talked it out. But you know what I loved most about that part? That they felt so comfortable laying side by side. And cuddling with their heads.
At first when Stefan suggested they'd go to sleep. And she laughed, I thought she was gonna say no. But she didn't she stayed on topic. But for me, I kept thinking, wow they really are comfortable. Why are they so comfortable? Have they slept in sync like that.before?? Off screen apparently. W/e idc about the point where they became comfortable enough to be in that position....it was just nice to see. Now I can enjoy all the upcoming fanvids til the show returns. = p
They've always been my GPC (guilty pleasure couple). Based on tonight's episode. After I watched just their scenes (about 10 times already hehe). I'd have to say that Caroline is feeling more for Stephen. Like she's questioning it in her mind more. Stefan is being a little more subtle about it. I think he feels that it's there, but he doesn't know that it's there....not yet. There might be a "hint" on his side, but he hasn't quite figured it out yet. I'm hoping he does by the next episode. Caroline is definitely recognizing her "what if" feelings I kinda wanna see Stefan do it, when Caroline isn't looking. Switch it up a bit.
ReplyDeletewhats Dullena?
ReplyDeleteI know lol just saying it can be implied that way for others. What was your theory and how was it half and half? I really liked the episode but that's mostly because of Steroline and when the show comes back I really don't want the love triangle at all or even just Stefan and Elena please Julie let that be done already. Yeah, I loved that scene to and to see they they're so comfortable with each other I wasn't really sure what was going to happen it looked like an almost kiss but guess they wanted us to believe that and I'm sure you loved it when she got even closer to him and layed on him.
ReplyDeletethat is exactly I thought.. that Markos is Silas and Amara child.. and he made the doppelganger curse to see the copycats of his parents.
ReplyDeleteMy theory was...you know what I can't remember right now. Hahahaha. I'm exhausted. Right now I'm omw to work, and I only got an hour n a half is sleep. So I might have to answer that question later. Yeah I really don't like what JP is doing. I believe Stefan has moved on for awhile. Not b/c of delena or St Elena being apart or together, just in general. And he's better for it. I've never liked Stefan, still don't, but he's had his moments where I give him cred. But afteR 5 Yrs I can finally say i like him this way, HEALTHY! And i think Caroline is a big part of that. It would be REALLY messed up if they made Stefan back track after he's finally in a good place. He doesn't deserve that (wow i never though i'I'd say that. Lol) everyone deserves to move on from their first loves,and now it's Stefan's turn. I mean everyone on that show has moved on from their first love, EXCEPT for him. And I just don't think that's right or fair!
ReplyDeleteAs for that scene with Caroline moving closer, hell yeah you better believe it buddy. LOL as she was smiling at Stefan while his eyes were closed. In that moment i felt, she felt more appreciated and more observed then ever before. Stefan knows her. And iI think she takes real comfort in that. When she put her head to his, and he leaned his head in on top of hers..that was the best moment for me honestly. But iI didn't think they were gonna kiss. Will they kiss before the season ends?? I have no clue, but iI would like that very much. But first i'dI'd like them to talk about their feelings for one another. And for some reason iI want Caroline to be the one to kiss him. Maybe b/c last night and the week before iI saw her questioning her feelings first. So since she's noticing it now, i'I'd say it's kinda killing her, and she doesn't know how to go about it.
I'll tell you one thingI can't wait for this episode to air when it returns, b/c iI know she'll feel a little jealous and iI want Stefan to tease her about it. Lol iI love when he jokes with her.
Damon and Elena = Delena, since they're so dull and awful, Dullena
ReplyDeleteI like Stefan and Caroline. It is a romantic. Starting off as friends and perhaps ending as lovers. Those are the ones that last forever.
ReplyDeleteMarlo's was stuck on the other side and those travelers sacrificed themselves using those buckets of Stefan and Elena's blood to release him. Bonnie was stuck in the middle because she is the anchor but I don't think she is part of their plan now.
ReplyDeleteI think Markos could be their leader or the first traveller.
ReplyDeleteAwful episode in terms of the dialogues, some acting (Jeremy), the plot... even the visions... UGH!
ReplyDeleteThe episode was maybe the only good one in a long-time, but still overall TVD has just gone off the rails, it's not even nearly as good as in season 2 or 3, it's just got boring...
ReplyDeleteEver since Caroline Dries took over TVD (Julie handed it to over when TO was picked) TVD turned into a nonsense ship-baiting love-triangle bullshit.
Please CW, fire Caroline Dries, I can understand when Julie wants to have more time for her other shows (show, when TTP is cancelled) so how about you bring back Kevin Williamson?
Kevin Williamson last episode was 3x01, since that he didn't produced/writed one single episode, he has done nothing since for TVD (maybe going to Comic-Con but that would be the only thing) and until season 3 TVD was fine, bring him back so he can turn TVD back to it's good storylines.
Hitting a 0,7 rating is clearly a sign that the viewers are not happy.
THEN DULLENA ALL THE WAY :)
ReplyDeleteI was thinking in terms of either/or. If Markos is Silas and Amara's child, just being around him would cause doppelgangers to want to engage in the act if they're the last two. That could be part of Markos' power, or a curse put on HIM. The only other explanation for Markos that I can think of that matches up with spoilers is that he created doppelgangers, probably not with a curse in mind, long before Silas and Amara were born. People think of werewolves as subjects of a curse because their bones break at the full moon, but it's actually just a gene that was probably created by travelers (since they predate witches, and werewolves apparently predate the Original Witch) and the gene can be passed on through the generations. There still isn't a genuine backstory giving an explanation for werewolves. Vampires are the youngest supernatural species (Silas was immortal and refused to be called a vampire), so what if somewhere down the line, vampires are thought of as cursed, even though they started with a dark witch who feared for her children's lives so much that she made them blood-drinking killers?
ReplyDeleteI'm getting ahead of myself. What I'm trying to say is that Markos might not have initially intended to generate an actual curse. He has a very old Latin name and is played by an actor with a Greek name, which tells me that Markos may be older than any creature that the Mystic Falls crowd has faced. He's been on the Other Side, but he predates it and therefore could probably manipulate and destroy it. Life in Markos' time might have been different, and there could have been circumstances behind what he did, if he did anything. The point of this arc is to finally trace doppelgangers back to the person or event that started it all, and determine whether legends and mysteries surrounding the doppelganger species are actually true. If not, Markos is probably forcing the so-called curse to come true since Stefan would never let his feelings for Elena cause chaos in his life or his family. Elena would never want that either.
I've never been much of a Steroline fan, I do like them but until this episode I wasn't cheering for them or anything. After this thou, I ADORE them! They were so sweet and had such a great chemistry, I hope we get more of this and Elena stays out of the way.
ReplyDeleteI hate what they've turned Delena into, the only reason I wanted them together was because I thought Damon deserved something good for a change and because he makes Elena a lot less boring and obnoxious. But now they're makeing them both annoying and they throw one of the best characters (Damon) to the garbage, all for the sake of a nother love triangle. I sincerely hope they get their act together cause they're screwing everything up. And when I say they I mean writers and those responsible for this mess.
ReplyDeleteNot the most exciting episode and I find the Traveller story very dull. I like that Jeremy is somewhat taking charge, but based on his relationship with the new witch, it looks like the writers are going for another Bonnie heartbreak. I really wish they would stop using Bonnie and Tyler as their punching bag and give them both a decent story. To me, the only redeeming thing about this episode was the Stefan Caroline part. I think that the writers have really done a terrific job developing the relationship between these two characters, and their moments together were very sweet. I hope they don't screw it up.
ReplyDeleteRight?? I'm getting so tired of people saying, "It'll ruin the friendship. It'll ruin the friendship." Ummm, no it won't!! Just b/c two friends take the next step doesn't mean they're doomed. Jesus! Some people have been watching wayyy too much drama. I feel b/c Caroline and Stefan are bff's that their relationship WHEN they take that next step, will be EPIC! And if they have to break up, their feelings for one another, and their friendship will NOT go away....Besides the awkwardness of breaking it to Elena, and everybody else. Forget that. I mean just them. You know i think they should start off like Chandler and Monica. Not in the FWB sense. But in a way they they can share their own company together, possibly having their first date, (or kiss) W/o anyone knowing. You know? Like just enjoying their time experimenting with each other, before it becomes world wide information. (rolls eyes).
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