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Final Adjusted TV Ratings for Friday 28th March 2014

31 Mar 2014

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33 comments:

  1. I was totally on the "HoD will surely get a fourth season" train but the way thinks look now I'm willing to change my position to "yeah...it's dead".


    I don't know wether I'm supposed to be worried about Hannibal or not, isn't it co-production ?

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  2. It will get a fourth season for syndication purposes.
    Yeah, Hannibal is a co-production

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  3. But are we sure that another batch of 22 episodes wouldn't drop any further ?
    I guess that's a good thing, as long as something's co-produced it may live despite the networks reaction

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  4. OK. Maybe ABC could renew Trophy Wife instead ... ;-)

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  5. Not sure if serious or joking.

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  6. I doubt it will drop any further, but that's a risk they have to take to make big syndication money.

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  7. Just kiddind :-)

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  8. They took a risk with HoD this season by essentially splitting one of the main reasons to watch the show apart. Zade was a major pull to the show, and they spent the majority of this season actively ruining that. It didn't bother me that much but I know it bothered so many others. A lot of people who were watching before are no longer watching now because of it.

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  9. Gah, you could write a book about theCWs current state and call it 'The curious case of CW renewal decisions'. I've never seen a single HoD episode but I'm certain that the friday move didn't do its ratings any favours since this show follows a story, right ?


    Wha'evs...I'm kinda hoping for the renewal/cancellation game to be over soon, I'm already getting worked up too much over this stuff ^^

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  10. I seriously doubt that shipping has much or any effect on the ratings.

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  11. This is the CW. Do you really think that TVD would be as popular as it is without all of the Delena and Klaroline and stuff? Almost all conversations between fans include their favorite ships. Discussions about what happened in the show itself that doesn't include a ship are largely buried by those that do.


    This sort of thing doesn't have much of an effect on other networks, but consider that it's what the CW has built almost their entire lineup around, it has a huge effect for them.

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  12. It dropped from 0.4 on Mondays to 0.3 on Fridays, bug that's still renewal worthy for syndication purposes in my book.
    It will end in May, so a long way to go.

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  13. Klaroline is dead, do you see TVDs ratings crying out 'I'm dying Bill, end me...end me now' ?
    No, shippers will watch simply for shipper moments and guess when or IF their characters get together.

    It has and always WILL be this way.


    If you let your art be compromised by shippers writing doesen't make any point anymore. Part of why shippers piss me off so much. Let the writers do what they think is right

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  14. Yeah, may aka. the month of doom...erm upfronts. I'm eagerly awaiting theCWs 2014 schedule

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  15. It doubt that had any effect on ratings. Friday is just a tough day.

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  16. Klaroline wasn't as big of a fandom as you think, and shippers rarely ever only ship one single couple. The people who shipped Klaroline are very likely sticking around for another couple.

    And for the record, there is no logical evidence to suggest that writers give in to shipper demands. I mean, last years was a TERRIBLE year for ships. Writers were killing off all of the big ones left and right.

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  17. Wish networks would stop swapping days & times and stop starting with shows half way through seasons. Play an ep then stop for 2 weeks then on again..blah, blah. People can't keep track then miss a few eps and give up.

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  18. There's no logical evidence ? So 150° character and story changes aren't evidence enough ?

    I won't have this conversation now though. Ships destroyed some of my favourite shows and like the leads of various revenge dramas I'm holding a huge grudge against ships and various kinds of shippers. TVD, True Blood, Arrow, Doctor Who and various others of my favourites have had annoying as hell shipper pleasing and bend their own rules to appease shippers (Sara/Oliver being shoved down our thorats, Olicity being constantly there as well, Delena turning TVD into a romantic sitcom and Eric being suddenly shoved on us have given me the rest)


    You know..the Klaus/Caroline scene in the 100th episode should've served as evidence enough

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  19. It will always surprise me how you think they don't matter. Almost every comment in episode polls are about ships, tumblr and twitter are spammed with a crapton of gifs and comments that are almost entirely about ships. Forum posts are dominated about discussions about ships. Fanfiction is primarily devoted to them. Almost every fan made picture is about some kind of ship. Most of the questions asked at spoiler sites involve ships. Fan made videos are almost always about ships.

    And yet, somehow you think that when every source of popular internet media about TV shows is filled with this stuff, that it's not enough to matter? I'm sorry, I just don't understand that logic.

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  20. Sara and Oliver had a logical reason to get together. It made sense. She wasn't around long enough for shippers to guide where that was going. As for Olicity, I don't think you know a damn thing about the fandom. They're the most laid back shippers ever. There are always those loud mouthed ones, but the majority of that fandom isn't in any hurry to see them together. And how exactly has the story been changed to accommodate it? Oliver and Felicity care about each other so that means the shippers are making the show go where they want it to? How does that make sense?

    And since when did Doctor Who get changed by shippers? Because as far as I can see, the Doctor hasn't done anything more than kiss his companions for the vast majority of its run. There was that thing with River Song but that was handled so flippantly they could have left it out entirely and it wouldn't have effected the show in the least.

    I think you're seeing problems where there are none, and blaming the most convenient thing.

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  21. you keep acting as if the internet fandom representes 100% of the entire viewership. It just doesen't. Casual viewers, people that watch but aren't that invested present a much larger number than the internet fandom (wich does also consist of fans that aren't even located in the US and therefore don't matter for the network)


    Always demanding to be catered to

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  22. Yes, of course. Shipping is not at fault for people being so upset with TVD that some fans have renamed it 'The Shipper Diaries'.


    Hey, I do not know a damn thing about the Arrow fandom, all I know is that some fans love to bash Laurel and praise Sara, this is where my knowledge ends (I'm only visiting the imdb boards).


    And even if laid back: there IS shipper pandering for Olicity. Or what do you call these googly eyes they keep making at each other ?

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  23. Well, there are 35 weeks in a season, so repeats are practically required to happen. And if people are too lazy that they need to watch a show non-stop to enjoy, well that's their own damn fault. Especially since they can just go to their TV guide to know what will be airing.

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  24. Happy that Hannibal stayed in the 1's, knew it would adjust down.

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  25. I could care less if Zade gets back together but this season has been one giant disaster of writing. They are killing this show from the writers room no matter what night it airs.

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  26. I stopped watching the show when they split Zade… so yes. Shipping has a lot to with ratings.

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  27. so you own a Nielsen box then ?

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  28. fair enough, still considering your viewing habits as the way others watch TV is flawed logic. Same way I could claim that as long as there're ships people won't watch it. It'd be a wrong statement but it's how I decide what to watch and what not to watch

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  29. I'm not saying my viewing habits are the same as others. You were the one that said shipping couples on tv doesn't effect ratings. I can only speak on behalf of myself which is that I was once a devoted HOD viewer but I have stopped recording the episodes once Zade was over.

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  30. I said that I doubt it, not that I was 100% right. As always: the truth will be somewhere in the middle. Some viewers will bail because of the couples, some because they don't like a character, some found something better, some didn't catch on the friday move and a lot of casual viewers didn't care enough

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  31. I work long hours and I'm sorry if I haven't got time to look into the 25 maybe more shows I watch every second of the day! Greys for example has been great showing the season in large blocks as a few shows have done this time and it is much better, even if you have a large break inbetween. I have stopped watching a few shows now not cause I stopped liking them but fell behind or the stop starting made it so I couldn't remember what was happening...I said I'd catch up but with great new shows like the blacklist coming out I just didn't get round to it. Maybe when my boys leave home and I retire from work I'll have time...haha

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  32. HoD is a romance show, though. So there's basis to claim that making shippers unhappy hurts the ratings in this case, as opposed to a show like Arrow where the shippers may be extremely vocal but are ultimately a minority among the audience. That being said, HoD's slide in ratings has been very slow and gradual, it's quite a stable (if low-rated) show on the whole. I'm sure The CW accounted for a further drop after it was moved to Friday, and 25% (from 0.4 to 0.3) is more or less the "Friday Factor". So they can't be surprised by this.

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