There were those who retained hope and others who lost their sense of purpose. A sign along the road reads “Hitchhikers may be escaped inmates,” which parallels their situation. Our escapees are hitching a ride to anywhere at this point as they have no direction and wonder whether there is any purpose beyond surviving to just to survive.
We start the episode with Beth and Daryl together and a narrative overlay of Beth reading a journal note she wrote when they were getting settled in the prison. In it she talks about how Hershel had told them they should believe in a future. “This morning, Daddy said something. 'If you don’t have hope, what’s the point of living?' … You should write down wishes to make them come true. We can live here. We can live here for the rest of our lives.” This sets up for us viewers the extent of the loss of the survivors and shows how they lost not just their walls, but their hope – because they really had started to believe. It also reminds us that the group has recently lost Hershel, and some are remembering his legacy.
We continue to follow Beth and Daryl through the woods as they’re tracking footprints from people they think may be from their group. Beth retains hope to find others whereas Daryl is pessimistic. When they see footprints, Beth says they’re signs that others are alive. Daryl says they’re signs people were alive four or five hours ago. While Beth is still thinking of Hershel, Daryl we remember was one of the last to give up hope in looking for Sophia – a hope that was crushed when they discovered that Sophia had been a walker all that time, trapped in Hershel’s barn. This hope of Beth lasts until they come across walker-kill by the train tracks. Assuming it’s the people they were tracking, Beth crumbles and burns the journal pages.
After we leave Beth and Daryl in that state we see real signs of hope – Baby Judith is alive! She’s with Tyreese, Lizzie and Mika as they dodge walkers through the woods. Judith may be hope, but she’s also a liability, as she keeps crying and attracting walkers. It soon becomes clear that this group is the one that Beth and Daryl were tracking. We’re also treated to another surprise. Carol joins them and saves Mika, Lizzie and Judith from walkers after Tyreese left to investigate some screams. Apparently Carol had been monitoring the prison and had witnessed the attack, and followed Tyreese, Lizzie, Mika, and Judith into the woods.
When Mika, Lizzie, and Judith are in danger, and it looks like Lizzie is about to smother Judith to stop her from crying, Carol rescues them, saving Judith’s life – an ironic twist since Rick had banished Carol because he didn’t want her near his children. If Judith represents hope on the show, and Judith is a liability, can we take this one step further and say hope is a liability? That seems to be true because their hope lies in trusting people, and people like the Governor, who are too far gone, often betray. What does it say about Lizzie and the children growing up in this world, that her instinct when left with Judith was to smother her? What does it say about Carol’s role in this story because she saved Judith?
The two stories weave in nicely together, with small touches pulling the two narratives together. Examples include Lizzie and Mika picking grapes, and then Beth picking grapes to save for the people they are tracking. Another example is the man who got bit by the train tracks being the walker who attacks Beth and Daryl.
A train to nowhere
Both of these stories end at train tracks, often symbolizing a journey. Promo posters for this season also show Rick and Carl on train tracks, and we saw them cross tracks in the previous episode. A train, or a journey, leads to a destination. The next stop appears to be Terminus. “Sanctuary for all. Community for all. Those who arrive, survive,” according to a sign. The man who was bit told Carol and Tyreese that the place was safe: “You can take the children there. Trust me, please. Follow the tracks.” But in the world of The Walking Dead, what looks to be too good to be true usually is, so I’m suspicious that it’s a trap. But we’ll have to wait and see.A bigger question is what the final destination of these survivors is. There’s a conversation between Bob and Sasha about whether they’re just surviving to survive, or whether everything should mean something. While Sasha tells Bob that not everything has to mean something, Bob tell her, “No, it doesn’t have to but it can, if you make it that way.” While I doubt we’ll get much more than hints of the group’s final destination this season, there seems to be a gradual shift from the survivors just running from things to moving toward something. There’s talk of “answers” that has worked its way into the dialogue at least twice in series so far: first with Rick last season when he was going insane and looking the dead for answers, and then in the previous episode with Michonne. Morgan in the episode Clear seemed to be on the path of uncovering some truth in his insanity. I think at some point we may start to turn the corner from where this series just gets darker and darker to where there is some light. We’re probably not there yet, but there has to be some purpose at the end of this.
Is Glenn the new Hershel?
“Hershel, Maggie’s father, was a great man. And he told me all I had to do is believe, and that’s what I’m going to do.” –GlennIt’s not a coincidence that those closest to Hershel are the ones most driven to find each other and rebuild the group. Beth pushes Daryl. Maggie doesn’t waiver in searching for Glenn. And Glenn pushes his way through a horde of walkers to get out of the prison to find Maggie. Hershel was about letting people in and moving past the wrongs that they did. He counseled faith and not giving up.
When Glenn wakes up at the prison, there’s something almost Biblical about the way the scene is filmed, with Glenn reawaking up high while the dead reach up from below. He wakes up alone and has a moment of despair, but he sees the picture of Maggie that he had snapped last season and heads out, pushing his way through a walker pack, and meeting up with Tara, who is lost and not fighting even though she has a gun full of ammo.
When Tara asks why Glenn he would want her help, Glenn responds, “I don’t want it. I need it,” establishing that he has learned the lessons that Hershel taught, and that he knows they all need to work together to survive. He inspires Tara to keep going and help and gives her a sense of purpose, the way Hershel was also giving people jobs to do. Glenn tells Tara that things aren’t over, to which she responds doubtfully, “I want to believe that. I want to.”
Other thoughts:
- We were introduced to three new characters at the end who are from the comic books. We haven’t seen much of them yet, but what did you think of their entrance so far?- We saw Glenn and Tara fight off the walkers near the spot that Maggie, Bob, and Sasha had passed by earlier as they continued down the road to look for the school bus. Do you think we’ll get a Maggie-Glenn reunion soon?
- While those two groups seem to be on one path, the groups with Daryl and Beth and Carol and Tyreese are following the train tracks, so I’m predicting a Daryl-Carol reunion soon as well. Daryl knows that Carol killed Karen and David, so it will interesting to see his reaction. I’m thinking he won’t say anything, and Rick will change his mind later – now that his illusion of being able to restore things to the way they used to be is gone. What are your thoughts? How do you think this will play out?
- I was really scared for Judith in this episode and was certain Lizzie was going to suffocate her. I had doubted she had died at the prison, but when Lizzie put her hand over her face, I couldn't watch. Do you think Lizzie was trying to kill her or just quiet her?
- We had more dialogue between Lizzie and Mika about understanding the walkers. Lizzie: “Don’t yell at her, she doesn’t understand walkers.” Mika: “You’re the one who doesn’t understand them.” Which brings us back to the rats. I’m now on board with the theory that the person who fed the rats to the walkers will be revealed to be either Lizzie or Mika, and there will be more to this theme of coming to understand walkers that will tie into their next destination.
- Apparently Lily's gone. I think Tara says she saw her get swarmed with walkers.
- My favorite scene from this episode was Glenn waking up with the horde of walkers reaching up for him. Wonderful filming angle and effects.
- A nice quote from Tyreese to the girls: “Don’t be sorry. You each do things your own way, but you get them done.”
- Bob also had a nice quote from when Maggie wanted to let out the walkers from the bus. “Fine, but we do it together. Smart.” It mirrored what Glenn was telling Tara.
When you see the similarities between Lizzie and Comic-Ben you know what is going to happen. The way Lizzie looked at Judith and the way she looked at Mika: That's the face of a Psychopath.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious if Carl maybe will be attracted to Lizzie before the very very bad things will happen. Carl and Lizzie having a crush on each other would make the story even more tragic and dark than in the Comics.
I'm hoping the show is telling a slightly different story than the comics - the general premise being the same, but many things and some outcomes changed. It's a less interesting story if it's already been written. Laughing at the idea of Carl developing a teenage crush. He's at the age, so it may happen.
ReplyDeleteWell, it is already in many ways not the same story until now. Judith is still here. Lizzie is older than Comic-Ben. Carol is her "stepmother" and I'm curious if Carol saw what Lizzie tried to do.
ReplyDeleteIt will not happen exactly like in the Comics but it seems very very likely that the season ends with Rick finding out that Carl killed Lizzie.
Hmmm. Good theory. I'll be watching for signs of this as we go along. Can you believe we only have six more episodes this season? Good question on whether Carol saw Lizzie with Judith. Probably not, but it would be more interesting if she did.
ReplyDeleteLove, LOVE the storytelling so far in this back half of the season! I really feel TWD is at its best when it focuses on *how* this apocalypse is changing the survivors internally -- and fragmenting the group is a great way to give each mini-group more individual focus.
ReplyDeleteI thought opening up the episode with Beth's journal voiceover was an awesome touch. Juxtaposing those hopeful words (along with mentions of now-dead Hershel) with scenes of Daryl and Beth frantically on the run was such a powerful way to underscore what they've lost, and the hope they're struggling to keep alive. I also like how we see "sparks" of Hershel that have been passed forward -- Beth giving Daryl hope, Glen encouraging Tara. (p.s., just throwing it out there, Bob seemed like a pretty stand-up guy this episode!)
I really appreciate the way we're shown "child warriors" as a contrast to the adults who knew life before the zombie apocalypse. To our sensibilities as viewers, Carl is "on the edge" and Lizzie (who definitely knifed those bunnies and totally intended to smother Judith, imho) is utterly broken -- a sociopathic, remorseless killing machine. But I see these characters, along with Carol, as examples of pragmatism taken to different extremes. A baby, for example, would be a huge liability for survivors on the run -- but we're still beyond horrified that someone would actually think of eliminating the baby. And you're right, so ironic that Carol is the one who saved her!
I missed that bit about the man bit by the train-tracks attacking Beth and Daryl as a walker. How could you tell, by his clothes?? Loving these bits of continuity as each group passes by the same landmarks at different times.
I been loving this whole season so far. This one and season 2 are my favorites. I loved the character dynamics of season 2, and still miss Andrea, Dale and Shane. I rewatched Internment before After and Inmates last night, and I think that episode might be favorite from this season so far. Needed to see Hershel again. :(
ReplyDeleteBut I agree with you. They're doing a great job at the character arcs, and I'm excited by the direction they're taking in the second half. Splitting the group was a very smart move.
I was also impressed by Bob. He's going to be an interesting one to watch.
I missed the connection with the guy by the tracks on the first watch because we see him as a walker first, but when I rewatched and saw him as a walker, I was thinking, "Wasn't that ...." I took note of his clothes and studied him more closely and was certain it was the same person as the man by the tracks. It makes sense since I don't think Daryl and Beth were too far from the tracks at that point and at least a few hours had passed.
Okay now I totally have to watch it again, just to check out that zombie guy. :)
ReplyDeleteActually I have to watch it again anyway, because of the Glenn/Maggie thing. Did anyone else get the impression that Maggie thinks she killed zombie-Glenn on the bus? I feel like the effects guys went out of their way to make that last zombie resemble Glenn, and Maggie looked pretty destroyed after she put it down. Cue the tease-cut to a commercial and then we come back to ... Glenn himself on the catwalk! So now I'm wondering if Maggie thinks her husband's gone.
Also now that we have Carol back (yay!!) I'm hoping they're not thinking of pairing up Daryl with Beth. Plus what would be the name mashup for their relationship? Baryl? Dareth? Deth?
You definitely do have to rewatch again. :) It amazes me how much depth there is in these episodes, and how you can still keep pulling things out after multiple rewatches. I was rewatching some of the Hershel and Rick scenes from season 2 a month or so ago and thinking that I could have used some of that conversation in writing about Hershel's death before the holidays. It was still relevant.
ReplyDeleteApparently the name is Bethyl. I just found that out a couple of days ago myself. Personally, I don't see the relationship going there, and Norman Reedus has apparently said it doesn't go there. Plus, my money is on the Carol and Daryl groups to be the next ones to be reunited. I think they're going to make us wait a little longer for Glenn and Maggie.
I thought I saw relief and a little bit of a smile in the tears on Maggie's face after she put down the walker. Plus I think she would have hesitated if it was Glenn, the way Carl did when he thought Rick had turned. But I could be wrong.
Yeah you're completely right Chris -- I'm such a TWD geek (and it was bugging me so much) that I finally checked the AMC episode recap, and you noticed what Greg Nicotero wanted us all to notice. :) She played that scene so powerfully, and he pointed out it was anguish mixed with a smile of relief right before the commercial cut. Whew -- I didn't think Maggie could take any more!
ReplyDeleteLauren Cohen did a great job delivering that scene. I'm with you on not wanting Maggie to have to go through that. I want Glenn and Maggie to stay a happy couple for as long as possible.
ReplyDeleteGreat episode!!!! Love how they showed the signs that Lizzie and her little group had been in the woods where Daryl and Beth passed the dead bunnies and some of Tyreese's blood on the bush in the ebginning of the show.I was wondering why they showed those scenes and didn't realize till later in the show why.They just decided to show scenes in a different order,which I thought was a pretty cool change.So Lizzie and the others can't be too far ahead of Daryl and Beth.Loved this episode and loved that Carol finally came back.
ReplyDeleteYay Carol is back! Lizzie totally fed those rats to the walkers and killed Karen/David and Carol covered it up and burned them and took the blame for it. This episode showed she's a crazy psycho with killing those bunnies and with Judith.
ReplyDeleteUmmm months ago I stated how the Bus was half painted and people replied like I didn't see it. Well why is the BUS half painted and what the hell is that tarp thing over the windows. Also the seen by the rail road track showed a child's shoe then they showed the same shoe on kiddies sister absence or so after I don't understand the significance of this!!!! Please someone with more patients fill me in :-)
ReplyDeleteLol finally someone else is thinking the same thing.Yeah I totally agree Lizzie is definitely the one who killed those two people,every time I would bring that up on here people would say I was wrong.But I just can't see Carol killing someone who could of been saved,she's a good person and has never shown any signs of being a cold blooded killer.
ReplyDeleteThose are interesting questions. I'm doubting we'll see more of the bus in terms of the future timeline, but there could be a flashback to someone's story - maybe Lizzie's since we still have so many questions about her - where those bus details make sense. I'm thinking of something similar to the crushed grapes in this past episode. They didn't mean anything until we saw them get crushed after Mika ran off.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure we have the answer yet on who was killed by the walkers. Bus people maybe? To be honest, I wasn't sure whether the people on the bus were from their camp or walkers who were attacking people from their camp, who the people managed to trap. I could have sworn I heard two comments from Bob and Sasha that seemed to contradict each other. Something like, "they all got away," and "they were all good people." (paraphrasing here). Maybe we'll see flashback from what happened on the bus at some point.
It's possible that Carol had been covering for Lizzie. It would fit Carol's protective nature. But I'm hoping that's not what happened. I think Carol was acting out of good intentions. She wanted to protect the group.
ReplyDeleteSo personally while I'm not condoning her actions, I'm not condemning them either. We've had a lot of focus on the arcs of Shane and the Governor going dark. I think it follows that this situation would also be changing others in less visible and less severe ways - and that someone might suddenly surprise you. We've also seen the group consider putting Randall to death out of fear, and there was the cold way Rick ignored the hitchhiker in Clear. Why can't Carol show some effects from all of this too?
I'm really enjoying the way the writers take bits and pieces from the graphic novels, and then weave them through the series in new and interesting ways (sometimes using entirely different characters). There's a storyline from the graphic novels that's seeming to echo the Lizzie situation more and more. If the story plays out a certain way along these lines, it could have devastating consequences for (possibly, I'm thinking) Carol.
ReplyDeleteBy a simple one-word "yes" or "no," has anybody else noticed this? A quick reminder that we should refrain from mentioning **ANY** specific names, details, etc. from the graphic novels to avoid possible spoilers. Just curious if anyone else is picking up on it.
Curious to see what responses you get from this. :)
ReplyDeleteYeah I know Carol to me isn't capable of something so immoral.She's always been a caring person and wouldn't just kill two people because of fear of their sickness spreading and if the idea of getting rid of someone was discussed among the group I'm so sure of it that she would probably been one of the characters that would of been against it.I've always thought from the beginning when she admitted to doing it that she was covering for Lizzie,that girls just weird and Carol seems to feel responsible enough to cover for her.Well I'm just so glad Carol's back,she's my favorite character along with Daryl and Michonne.Lol I just love everyone on this show.
ReplyDeleteI tried to respond to this twice last night, and both times my phone ate my response. grrrr.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you're saying about the reversed timelines and how effective that was. This was an episode that grew on me more with each rewatch because I kept picking up on more details. I was also happy to see Carol again. She's part of the group and shouldn't be banished. There needed to be a response to what she did, but I didn't think banishment was the right one, especially considering she's not the first person to do something morally questionable out of fear.