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The Originals - Episode 1.13 - Crescent City - Sneak Peek

3 Feb 2014

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52 comments:

  1. lily3 February 2014 at 13:02

    Don't get what the sneak peak is about. Where exactly Hayley is going to the old governor's house where she will be almost set on fire or the party in the bayou?? And why is it such a big deal who goes with her as a bodyguard.

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  2. Sarah3 February 2014 at 14:12

    They're stupidly discussing who will take Hayley out of the house. I can see why Rebekah would be nervous. It's obvious who will start the fire. Rebekah, Elijah, and Hayley are all playing with it. Having a hybrid's blood in her would keep Hayley alive, but she won't be happy and neither will the werewolves. What happened to Elijah not wanting to provoke Klaus? Elijah is either testing his brother or turning on him, possibly both. The sick part is that Elijah doesn't know everything that Hayley is capable of. Worst dysfunctional family ever.

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  3. Sarah3 February 2014 at 14:19

    Elijah obviously hasn't made his decision yet in this scene. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to keep Hayley away from Klaus, and he wants the satisfaction of remaining the noble brother trying to save his family. It won't end well. It doesn't matter who tries to burn Hayley. I hope Rebekah lays into Elijah again. If he's putting her in that position, she should be the one to tell him that he has to choose.

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  4. lily3 February 2014 at 14:34

    I can't believe Elijah would trust hayley's safety to rebekah. She is a terrible fighter. I mean she got hit by two arrows and died in the woods instead of saving hayley from warlocks, if hayley didn't get lucky having guardian weres following her she'd be dead.

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  5. Sarah3 February 2014 at 14:38

    It's almost like Elijah wants Hayley to get hurt. The guy is crazy.

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  6. mac3 February 2014 at 16:39

    does Elijah even know that she sold Tyler out to Shane and Klaus ?

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  7. Sarah3 February 2014 at 17:35

    That's what I was referring to. Klaus told Elijah the story about the hybrids, but he left Hayley out of it for some reason. Elijah isn't aware of the kind of damage Hayley has caused and will cause because of her family.

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  8. mac3 February 2014 at 17:39

    I don't think this will ever come back to us tough. The writers are obviously trying to make Hayley more likable. That's why she called Tyler a backstabber.
    The writers pretend she never did anything wrong.

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  9. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 18:33

    Homicidal? Yeah, no. If you don't like Hayley feel free to say so but don't try to make her out to be some monster. At best you're being disingenuous. Saying stuff like "the sick part is Elijah doesn't know everything Hayley is capable of" is a purposely misleading statement meant to insinuate things much worse than the truth, which is:


    Hayley has done 2 shady things since the introduction of her character. Two. That's it. She conspired against and sold out the hybrids and she gave up Celeste's location to Sophie. In both cases her motivation was her family - to find them and to protect them. Gee, I wonder if there's anyone in the Mikaelson family who would be sympathetic to something like that?



    Do we even need to compare these two incidents to all the awful deeds all three Mikaelsons have already committed? Hell, we don't even need to compare all. Just list the acts of backstabbing the Mikaelsons have committed against each other. Or we can stick to murders. Or just what they've done in the 12 episodes since they got their own show. Any way you cut it, what Hayley has shown she's capable of is a paper cut compared to the blood shed by the rest of the regulars. Comparatively speaking, she's committed the least amount of offenses of any regular on this show besides Camille.

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  10. Sarah3 February 2014 at 18:36

    Alright, no need to attack. It's just a TV show.

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  11. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 18:37

    Attack? How did I attack you? This is simply an elaborate counterpoint.

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  12. magil3 February 2014 at 18:47

    Well, well said.

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  13. lily3 February 2014 at 19:27

    I don't think Elijah would care if he found out about the hybrids too. But i can understand where Sarah is coming from. Whenever i look at Hayley all i can see is that 12 people were led to a slaugther by her. It's just scary that she is capable of such horrific thing like it's nothing. And she is supposed to be the lead female (along with Rebekah), it's hard to sympathize or care what happens to her or the baby.

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  14. Shannon3 February 2014 at 19:35

    Where does he want Hayley to go?? Sooo now he's going to prove to Rebekah, that family comes first, by throwing Hayley out the house??? Really?? Sucks teeth.

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  15. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 19:35

    "Whenever i look at Hayley all i can see is that 12 people were led to a
    slaugther by her. It's just scary that she is capable of such horrific
    thing like it's nothing."


    That seems like a significant case of tunnel vision to me. Not only are all the Mikaelsons capable of that, they've demonstrated it over and over again at the blink of an eye with literal blood on their hands. My question is how are you able to look past the arguably much more horrible things the others have done and continue to do and yet with Hayley it's all you see?

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  16. Dana Valentine3 February 2014 at 19:55

    I know, people seem to forget who was wielding the sword.

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  17. lily3 February 2014 at 20:05

    Who said i am okay with mikaelsons doing bad things? Hayley is just a werewolf, she is not a vampire so where does such ruthlessness come from? How is it she didn't think twice about murdering people that trusted her? 12 people at once? Hon one, not two TWELVE.
    I despise Klaus for a lot of things and Rebekah, Damon, Stefan, Kat basically every character on TVD and TO that killed for other reasons but self-defence and protecting the life of someone they care about. And before you ask yes it makes it hard to watch show where literally 90 % of characters lost moral compass.
    Everybody else on the show gets called a monster but the moment people call Hayley out on being a murderer suddenly the once who call out "have tunneled vision" Elijah stanned for Hayley hard the second he saw her, yet she backstabbed him, the family member she already found and had, for some hypothetical relatives that will supposedly welcome her with open arms once they are no longer wolves.

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  18. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 20:28

    - I mentioned tunnel vision because they way you framed your response made it seem that way, not out of some blind allegiance to Hayley.
    - Hayley isn't the only one responsible for offing 12 people at once. So is Klaus and Caroline. The difference is Hayley is the only one out of those three who didn't physically kill any of those people herself. Klaus and Caroline made the choice to do that.
    - If you know all these people have lost their moral compass why single out one over the others, especially when the others have been doing much worse for centuries?

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  19. Sara3 February 2014 at 20:30

    Why can't Hayley leave the house on her own? Why does she need an Original with her at all times? A few episodes she had a couple of random vampires with her and she left but now suddenly she needs to be with either Elijah or Rebekah at all times?

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  20. Sara3 February 2014 at 20:32

    I don't think she sold out Tyler to Klaus. I think she used Klaus just as much as she used Tyler. She used Tyler to unsire the hybrids and get them plotting against Klaus and then used Klaus to have them killed (it's not like Klaus was working with Shane or Hayley) - both Tyler and Klaus were used as pawns by Shane & Hayley.

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  21. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 20:35

    I'm not about to pretend Hayley is innocent. After all, even though she couldn't be sure of the consequences, she had to be pretty certain that selling out those hybrids would get them killed. However, unlike some others, I'm not willing exaggerate the significance of her past deeds in order to vilify her.

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  22. Sara3 February 2014 at 20:36

    You're forgetting that Hayley made a deal with Katherine. Katherine told her she could help her find her family so Hayley told her everything she knew about Silas/the cure and then she became a loose end and Katherine tried to have her killed (but Klaus saved her life in exchange for info and wound up sleeping with her).


    All you have to do is tell her you can help with her family and she'll do anything.

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  23. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 20:39

    I didn't forget anything. I covered that when I posted "she conspired against and sold out the hybrids." That's part of the whole conspiring aspect.

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  24. lily3 February 2014 at 20:43

    I see, and i responded to you not because i super hate Hayley, i just saw an oppotunity to have a meaningful conversation))
    I trash all of characters from time to time, you can often catch me scolding kat, damon, stefan, caroline etc and even my ultimate favorites elijah and klaus. But i also defend them if i see people badmouthing them for things they aren't supposed to be accounted for.

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  25. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 20:45

    Fair enough. You're "equal opportunity." I can respect that.

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  26. lily3 February 2014 at 20:45

    Well literally everyone in NOLA wants her dead for one reason or the other. Witches and vampires. Especially Celeste. She is only safe as long as she has Mikaelsons watching after her.

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  27. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 20:51

    Even though he means well, Elijah can come off as a bit overbearing in the name of Hayley's safety. Even Klaus has acted the same way a few times. I'll admit they have a slew of good reasons for concern but their attitude can seem a wee bit oppressive at times.

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  28. Sara3 February 2014 at 20:57

    If Celeste wanted her dead why didn't she kill her in 1x03? That would have been the perfect time to do it since she was alone with Hayley.

    The vampires don't really seem to care. Klaus had some of them looking over her a few times now.

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  29. lily3 February 2014 at 21:02

    Because Celeste is a cowardly witch, it took her 200 years to do anything but come back in the bodies of other witches and watch from afar. I think she did considerable damage setting other witches on hayley in such underhanded way, she prefers somebody else to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for her.

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  30. TeamLexana3 February 2014 at 21:23

    The thing with the hybrids is pretty huge though. Hayley befriended them, held their hands while they broke their bones over and over and over to break their sire bonds because she promised that she could grant them freedom. Hayley made them a pack with Tyler as the Alpha - to a wolf pack IS family. And it was ALL A LIE. Hayley had no intention of setting them free, she was planning for them to get murdered by Klaus for the sacrifice the entire time. And she left Tyler - the boy she supposedly loved at the time holding the bag and got his MOTHER killed. Then apparently in some offscreen nonsense she made a deal with Klaus, broke the deal and told Kat about the cure which caused Kat to set Silas free and get Jeremy killed but then offers to turn on Kat after Klaus saves her life because she messed with the queen vamp that INVENTED double cross, lol.
    That's the issue. That's why she's pretty hated. And that's why they ignored it on TO. Especially since Elijah dropped Kat like a hot potato when he found out what she did to Jeremy, so how the hell would he feel about Hayley? Honestly? He'd be disgusted. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of their scenes. The one where he makes her cereal and takes away her ice cream is probably one of my favs but honestly, he wouldn't be into her if he knew the truth and that's got to be why they are pretending it never happened.

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  31. TeamLexana3 February 2014 at 21:27

    Because of the creepy nature in which she befriended all of them for months and lied about her true intentions and it gets wiped away like it never happened. I can like characters that do bad things, I wouldn't like any of the originals otherwise. I don't like retconns. That's a pretty freaking HUGE one. It makes her character either extremely fake or she's just a giant liar that's waiting to backstab ANY OF THEM at a moments notice.

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  32. TeamLexana3 February 2014 at 21:35

    Caroline didn't know the killing the one witch would kill them all, it's pretty clear on her face when they all started dropping. Caroline also did it to save Bonnie who was going to die in literally seconds right in front of her eyes unless she did something. That's a far cry from what Hayley did. The level of villainy of befriending them all just to have them killed later doesn't even compare.

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  33. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 21:36

    Backstabbing is not exclusive to Hayley and if you could tell me in what episode(s) of TVD Hayley showed any evidence of being friends or even friendly with any of those Hybrids I'd appreciate the info. This behavior isn't huge. It's commonplace among most of these characters. It's something the vast majority of vampire characters from both shows have already done.

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  34. TeamLexana3 February 2014 at 21:37

    Is Elijah trying to get her away from Klaus in that scene? That seems crazy on his behalf, he's got to know there's no way Klaus would let Elijah separate him from his child. He daggered his siblings for centuries to keep them with him after all.

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  35. TeamLexana3 February 2014 at 21:40

    Practically every episode she was in before they were killed? lol.

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  36. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 21:42

    Yeah, no. The fact she was in a scene with them does not make them BFFs. Most of the time she was barking orders and generally being short with them in an effort to get them to break the sire bond asap so Hayley could get what she wanted. There's no trace of friendship anywhere.

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  37. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 21:43

    And again I say that none of this elevates her enough above the Mikaelsons to be singled out.

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  38. Sara3 February 2014 at 21:44

    Then she needs to work on her listening skills because the first thing Stefan told her and Klaus when they got there was that the witches were linked together and that Bonnie was going to kill them.

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  39. Bruce_F3 February 2014 at 21:45

    Good memory on you. That completely skipped my mind.

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  40. Sara3 February 2014 at 21:49

    I wonder if Klaus knows about Hayley's involvement. The only interaction they had about it was when Hayley went up to Klaus and told him the hybrids were plotting against him. Have we seen anything to suggest that he's aware that she was working with Shane the entire time?

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  41. vivcious4 February 2014 at 01:26

    This biased and double standard some of you guys have against Hayley and the baby amuses and annoys me so much. "It's just scary that she is capable of such horrific thing like it's nothing....t's hard to sympathize or care what happens to her or the baby." But you'll go ahead and sympathize with Klaus, Elijah, and Rebekah when they've done either the same or worse in terms of number of kills and the type of kills????

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  42. vivcious4 February 2014 at 01:40

    You're twisting this into some smear campaign against the character because I'm going out on a limb and say your a Klaroline Shipper and this specific plot is getting in the way of your shipping.


    How is Hayley's character being retcon'd? They didn't change her role in the unsiring. If didn't Hayley just recently betray Elijah over potential wolf family stuff?

    Characters are malleable, especially on a TV show that's aiming to run for years. They're two separate shows. The writers are bound to change things to fit the story they want to tell. This happens all the damn time. It happened when Angel left BtVS and got his own show too. But you're acting as if its the end of the gd television world over /one/ character and her new role as lead character. By your logic, Klaus shouldn't even be leading his own show, going by the initial conception of his character.

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  43. aron4 February 2014 at 04:53

    Exactly. I was totally thinking of Cordelia Chase, lol. Plus, while I don't love Haley, I think she's been very in character. She did betray Elijah for the wolf family (totally consistent with her previous actions) and her explanation to Elijah: "I know what a promise means to you, Elijah, but you made it 200 years ago. I live in the now. If I feel something, I act. If I want something, I take it. Why can't you?" ...Also felt very consistent with her character. (no retcon-ing going on).


    In context to the show and Haley, there's growth to be had, change to be made, and a multifaceted character that fits well in the world of The Originals, where everyone has been treacherous. Though she is pregnant, she is not a "Madonna or a Whore," and it seems like the fans expect her to be clearly and only one or the other, like she has to fit into a box or be a cardboard cut-out villain or heroin. If her past is to be singled out, and people insist the show dwell on it, wouldn't they have to do that for all the characters?


    Mostly, I'm tired of reading statements on the message boards that are essentially one of these two things: But she's pregnant, she can't contribute anything! And, "She has a horrible deed in her past - how dare they progress her character beyond that!"

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  44. aron4 February 2014 at 04:54

    Seriously. All that.

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  45. aron4 February 2014 at 04:56

    Haley - while I find her actions just as despicable as Klaus, was also a pawn manipulated by Shane.

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  46. vivcious4 February 2014 at 05:48

    "Though she is pregnant, she is not a "Madonna or a Whore," and it seems like the fans expect her to be clearly and only one or the other"

    [[slow clap]]

    I think this is what irks me the most. And that the majority of Hayley's "haters" are women themselves is even more concerning.



    It /is/ so effing tiring to see the same complaints over and over again.

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  47. magil4 February 2014 at 06:14

    Thank you. Nicely explained. Characters evolve, and isn't that what The Originals is supposed to be premised on? All this focus on whether or not they can trust Haley, but it goes both ways... can she trust them? Which ones can she trust? When can she trust them? And, yes, when can they trust her? But singling her out feels so icky to me in the midst of everyone else's past deeds.

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  48. GM4 February 2014 at 06:37

    I also thought of Cordelia Chase... as well as Faith and a chunk of other characters that evolved when they shifted from their past deeds on Buffy, to more or less redemption on Angel (which for the most part was accomplished with logic and purpose. (I could mention some other shows too, but I won't). And in the VD/The Originals universe, wow, what character doesn't have blood on their hands (lots and lots of blood on their hands)? What'd Haley do to get singled out?

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  49. GM4 February 2014 at 06:42

    Great points. Needed to be said. I know you didn't exactly say this, but... forcing Haley into a category: tunnel vision indeed.

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  50. lily4 February 2014 at 13:59

    I'd appreciate it if you read all my comments thoughtfully before replying to them and even quoting them. It's just so annoying them someone like you only reads the first comment and asks the question, without reading the rest of my comments. Perhaps you can bother yourself with reading all of my responses to Bruce_F? You know the ones where i specifically said i don't sympathize or forget that Mikaelsons are bad people.

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  51. vivcious4 February 2014 at 16:09

    Oh I saw, the one where you mention it last minute after comment after comments of disparaging a fictional character without mentioning /once/ the other characters who's made same or worse offense?? While everyone else has at least made note. Yea sure you treat all of them equally.

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  52. aron4 February 2014 at 17:06

    Agreed. I'd like to see them follow through with Haley and this situation she's found herself in, see her character progress. I feel the same about Klaus and Rebekah, I'd like to see both characters progress, grow, move forward beyond what they've been. Guess we'll see what the writers do.

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