Lol at Kat's gray hair but flawless face without any wrinkles. She lost one tooth, which was quickly forgotten and got a few tasteful gray streaks in her hair and that's "aging" for her. Julie is always afraid of making pretty people ugly.
Right? They should at least give her slight bags under eyes or something, it doesn't have to be too dramatic, she can still be "pretty" and look older.
Well according to the ridicules Silas doppelganger plotline, he's practically programmed to love her or at least be obsessed with her. I don't know, I think it is a little sad and sweet though. Katherine MIGHT have been able to start behaving like a normal human being and been able to love if Klaus truly had stopped hunting her and let her live her life out in peace. I'm sure centuries on the run would drive anyone a little crazy and desperate enough to do really crappy things. Not that it's an excuse mind you, I just understand her motivations for some of her villainous behavior a tiny bit.
I've always wondered how much Klaus actually chased her. Because in Season 4 when Damon, Elena & Rebekah were on the search for her it seemed like Klaus could have cared less. In Season 2 once he broke the curse he just let her go. From what we've seen on TO Klaus seemed to just be hanging out in NO from the 1700s up until 1919 and we had no mention of him hunting Katherine.
She used him as a human blood bag and toyed with his mind, started the ruin with his brothers relationship. You could say he is what he is ( brooding, unhappy, restless for peace, ripper) because of Katherine.
I agree with all with human blood bag and toying with his mind but since she has fallen for him herself it's understable why she wanted him to love him and not being afraid of her. it's a mitigating circumstance. As for taking blood from someone it's not a big deal on the show where vampires kill simply because they can and have a bad mood. As long as human on TVD survives it's not even addressed as an abuse which it obviously is. I have to disagree with you on Stefan being the brooding ripper because of kat. Personality depends on upbringing, type of nervous system etc Stefan is the way he is because of the influence he got during his formative years not because some girl bit him while having sex with him at the same time. Caroline got abused too by Damon and a lot worse, but because of her light, warm personality she didn't start taking it out on random people.
I believe if it wasn't for Katherine entering his life Stefan, seeing how he was as a human briefly, Stefan would never have chosen the vampire life......she lead him on a path he didnt fully understand and left him. If he started on wobbly legs how was he to chose what type of monster he wanted to be, as it turned out he didn't want to be a monster and fights the urges.
I agree that we disagree, thank you for being civil by the way, lately I've been finding myself at the wrong end of SK fans lol.
Thank you too, i like having long meaningful conversation about tv shows i watch without people getting way too defensive about their characters or couples. TVd fans can be overprotective but i only get upset when people trash Elijah, right now he is the only character i still bother to protect and defend. All others did their fair share of shamefull stuff. Also i like equally Stefan with Caroline, Kat and even Elena, Rebekah, the guy is pretty multishippable)))
I said SERIOUSLY hurt. Like Damon hurt Caroline, or Klaus caused Caroline to almost die twice, or Damon snapping the neck of the guy whose sister he loves. Kat did cause him a lot of pain but didn't really screw him as much as she did Damon, Tyler's uncle, Rose's friend whose neck got slapped off by elijah and countless other men. Compulsion and biting on this shows don't qualify as serious injuries. Like Elijah once said a person can turn you into a vampire, but the choice to become a monster or not is the one you make yourself. I guess we just have to disagree on reason Stefan in the way he is))
You said Stefan was the only one she had not physically and emotionally hurt. Regardless of her love she did hurt him. He was human and not in her league as yet. It was a predator preying not love.
I blame Stefan's brooding on Katherine not cause of one factor but many. He is restless, he wants peace, he wants to do the right thing despite having the urges from the creature Katherine introduced within him. I have always looked at Stefan as someone who doesn't belong anywhere....except in the flashback when he was human, welcoming Katherine in to him home, playing ball with his brother. Caroline is the way she is because of the help and support Stefan gave her during her transition, left on her own devices.....I don't know?
It was enough to have driven the fear of God into her and that she was willing to sacrifice all those vamps in civil war time Mystic Falls - including her bff Pearl to fake her own death. It was probably more like he explained it to Hayley, the fear of him showing up one day to wreck Tyler's (or in this case Katherine) parade would be the ultimate punishment. Klaus should know, he lived that way for a thousand years, only I am sure Mikael was always much more active in his pursuit to find and kill Klaus.
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Lol at Kat's gray hair but flawless face without any wrinkles. She lost one tooth, which was quickly forgotten and got a few tasteful gray streaks in her hair and that's "aging" for her. Julie is always afraid of making pretty people ugly.
ReplyDeleteI really think they could have aged Katherine a lot better - they should have given her wrinkles and whatnot.
ReplyDeleteRight? They should at least give her slight bags under eyes or something, it doesn't have to be too dramatic, she can still be "pretty" and look older.
ReplyDeleteStefan's the ONLY one showing any concern for Katherine's possible death, it's so ironically funny.
ReplyDeleteWell according to the ridicules Silas doppelganger plotline, he's practically programmed to love her or at least be obsessed with her. I don't know, I think it is a little sad and sweet though. Katherine MIGHT have been able to start behaving like a normal human being and been able to love if Klaus truly had stopped hunting her and let her live her life out in peace. I'm sure centuries on the run would drive anyone a little crazy and desperate enough to do really crappy things. Not that it's an excuse mind you, I just understand her motivations for some of her villainous behavior a tiny bit.
ReplyDeleteI've always wondered how much Klaus actually chased her. Because in Season 4 when Damon, Elena & Rebekah were on the search for her it seemed like Klaus could have cared less. In Season 2 once he broke the curse he just let her go. From what we've seen on TO Klaus seemed to just be hanging out in NO from the 1700s up until 1919 and we had no mention of him hunting Katherine.
ReplyDeleteMakes sense though. He is the only one she never tried to kill or seriously hurt emotionally or physically.
ReplyDeleteShe used him as a human blood bag and toyed with his mind, started the ruin with his brothers relationship. You could say he is what he is ( brooding, unhappy, restless for peace, ripper) because of Katherine.
ReplyDeleteI agree with all with human blood bag and toying with his mind but since she has fallen for him herself it's understable why she wanted him to love him and not being afraid of her. it's a mitigating circumstance. As for taking blood from someone it's not a big deal on the show where vampires kill simply because they can and have a bad mood. As long as human on TVD survives it's not even addressed as an abuse which it obviously is.
ReplyDeleteI have to disagree with you on Stefan being the brooding ripper because of kat. Personality depends on upbringing, type of nervous system etc Stefan is the way he is because of the influence he got during his formative years not because some girl bit him while having sex with him at the same time. Caroline got abused too by Damon and a lot worse, but because of her light, warm personality she didn't start taking it out on random people.
I'll give you the never tried to kill. But totally disagree with the others.
ReplyDeleteI believe if it wasn't for Katherine entering his life Stefan, seeing how he was as a human briefly, Stefan would never have chosen the vampire life......she lead him on a path he didnt fully understand and left him. If he started on wobbly legs how was he to chose what type of monster he wanted to be, as it turned out he didn't want to be a monster and fights the urges.
ReplyDeleteI agree that we disagree, thank you for being civil by the way, lately I've been finding myself at the wrong end of SK fans lol.
Thank you too, i like having long meaningful conversation about tv shows i watch without people getting way too defensive about their characters or couples. TVd fans can be overprotective but i only get upset when people trash Elijah, right now he is the only character i still bother to protect and defend. All others did their fair share of shamefull stuff. Also i like equally Stefan with Caroline, Kat and even Elena, Rebekah, the guy is pretty multishippable)))
ReplyDeleteI said SERIOUSLY hurt. Like Damon hurt Caroline, or Klaus caused Caroline to almost die twice, or Damon snapping the neck of the guy whose sister he loves. Kat did cause him a lot of pain but didn't really screw him as much as she did Damon, Tyler's uncle, Rose's friend whose neck got slapped off by elijah and countless other men. Compulsion and biting on this shows don't qualify as serious injuries.
ReplyDeleteLike Elijah once said a person can turn you into a vampire, but the choice to become a monster or not is the one you make yourself.
I guess we just have to disagree on reason Stefan in the way he is))
You said Stefan was the only one she had not physically and emotionally hurt. Regardless of her love she did hurt him. He was human and not in her league as yet. It was a predator preying not love.
ReplyDeleteI blame Stefan's brooding on Katherine not cause of one factor but many. He is restless, he wants peace, he wants to do the right thing despite having the urges from the creature Katherine introduced within him. I have always looked at Stefan as someone who doesn't belong anywhere....except in the flashback when he was human, welcoming Katherine in to him home, playing ball with his brother. Caroline is the way she is because of the help and support Stefan gave her during her transition, left on her own devices.....I don't know?
It was enough to have driven the fear of God into her and that she was willing to sacrifice all those vamps in civil war time Mystic Falls - including her bff Pearl to fake her own death. It was probably more like he explained it to Hayley, the fear of him showing up one day to wreck Tyler's (or in this case Katherine) parade would be the ultimate punishment. Klaus should know, he lived that way for a thousand years, only I am sure Mikael was always much more active in his pursuit to find and kill Klaus.
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