SUPERNATURAL
"Sharp Teeth" - (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)
GARTH RETURNS - After finding out that Garth (guest star DJ Qualls) is in the hospital, Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) go to check on him. Still carrying the guilt over Kevin, Dean lays into Garth about disappearing and demands to know where he's been. Garth makes an excuse and then hightails it away from the guys. Confused as to why Garth would run from them, Sam and Dean do some investigating and are stunned by what they find. John Showalter directed the episode written by Adam Glass (912).
"Sharp Teeth" - (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)
GARTH RETURNS - After finding out that Garth (guest star DJ Qualls) is in the hospital, Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) go to check on him. Still carrying the guilt over Kevin, Dean lays into Garth about disappearing and demands to know where he's been. Garth makes an excuse and then hightails it away from the guys. Confused as to why Garth would run from them, Sam and Dean do some investigating and are stunned by what they find. John Showalter directed the episode written by Adam Glass (912).
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Aw, poor Garth. I hope he's okay. Curious as to why he ran, although I have an idea.
ReplyDeleteThis will be a great episode... I have no idea either what is happening with Garth.
ReplyDeleteGarth lost me when he tried to replace Bobby...
ReplyDeleteGoing by the title and description, I think there's a chance Garth might get turned into a vamp or werewolf, which is going to be super interesting if it happens.
ReplyDeleteSounds great :)
ReplyDeleteI generally like Garth. I'm glad he hasn't been totally forgotten about.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought upon reading them was that the reason Garth disappeared is because he's already been turned into a monster. That would definitely be an interesting take for the character.
ReplyDeleteI hope it's a werewolf. I'm sick of vampires.
ReplyDeleteOk, I like Garth, so I'm hoping that he isn't some monster that the boys will have to kill, especially so soon after Kevin.
ReplyDeleteI am glad to see that BOTH Sam and Dean go see Garth and they are investigating together as to why Garth's acting weird. There has been so much talk about Sam hardly being in the next 5-6 episodes, yet it sounds like he might be in it quite a bit.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure why people thought he'd barely be in episodes.
ReplyDeleteI don't like Garth, but I hope Dean and Sam won't have to kill him. That's just too much angst.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad Kevin hasn't been forgotten and we keep seeing Dean's reactions.
Could be an interesting twist with Garth as a monster. It would give TPTB a logical excuse to get rid of him but I'm more inclined to believe he's hiding or helping some one that the Winchesters would target.
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Not happy that Dean is carrying guilt over Kevin. Hes an intelligent man; he should know by now that whoever gets drawn nto the supernatural world has a 99% chance of dying a violent death; how many times have he and Sam themselves died?
I want to see him as he was, cocky and bad-ass, not the mopey wet rags the writers are turning both bros into.
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Sam seems to have been insta-fixed, so in true Carver fashion, a story-arc ends half-way through the show!
On the positive side, if it's a MOTW, hopefully there won't be any angels.
someone has to do all the reasearch on the MOTW cases.
ReplyDeleteBTW I think it was Jensen said the episode was Dean focused, seems like Garth's story is the supernatural part and Sam is there because Carver himself has said that he knows fans wouldnt be happy seeing the boys apart for too long.
Because Jared and Jensen commented that 10, 11, 12 were Dean centric. Misha said 14 is Cas centric and Jared's filming scheule has been comparitively light through the end of Novemebe and the whole of December. 13 and 14 were written Sam light with Gen's due date in mind. This isnt something Sam fans have made up, its based on the spoilers, info from cons and set reports and filming schedules. I think Sam will be present in episodes but he wont have much to do very similar to how they dealt with the episodes towards the end of season 7 when Thomas was due. The writers keep it light for Jared so that if they need to cut him out it can be easily done and wont affect the episodes.
ReplyDeleteI hope the they find something interesting and I hope the whole epiode isnt just Dean being a dick to everyone because he feels guilty and I hope he isnt trying to lay blame on Garth. I would live for Sam to stand up and tell Dean to get over himself if he does. My guess is Dean is going to need someone to point out a few home truths in this episode. I also expect Sam to tell Dean how he feels about what has happened, how he too feels guilty, that he doesnt really blame Dean and that Dean made a mistake and that can happen to anyone. I'm expecting a heart to heart because this will likely be the first time they've had the chance, because Dean's attitude (dark Dean) will likely need addressing at this point and because Carver has said this will eb an emotional episode. I just hope its an emotional episode for everyone and not just Dean. because it would be nice for the writers to aknowledge that other peoples feeling matter on the show not just Dean's. Hopefully this is the end of Dean's arc and we get some more on Sam and MOL. I think that should be linked to Sam's personal arc, it would be a good way for the writers to explore Sam as a person, his issues, his self esteem, his desires while keeping with his personality and keeoing with the supernatural.
ReplyDeleteSo Sam's permenant damage in episode 11 doesnt happen and that was just a plot device for Cas's storyline.
Good to know Sam is back to being research guy (yawn).
Hopefully 12 is the end of Dean's arc
Still not interested in the angel storyline even less bow that Jared isnt playing Gadreel, Sam and Dean arent a part of that so I can see some fans not being particularly interested.
I dont know what to think of the predictions of Garth being turned into something monstery but it would be interesting.
I wonder if we'll see Kevin's mum at all this season, do we know if she's really dead or not? I would love to see her reaction to Kevin's death and I would like to see Dean's role in his death beign thrown in his face much like Sam's 'starting of the apocolypse' is constantly thrown in his face by random people.
I really do not think the baby had anything to do with it. The baby was not due until well into December and really who else gets written that way because a baby is due .
ReplyDeleteI like Garth, other than Jody he is my favorite guest character. OK that is not correct either, have to add Death & Crowley in there. DJ's series starts back soon, Legit.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I really can't imagine the baby is the reason that Sam doesn't have more.screen time. Nothing like that happened with Jensen's baby either. Didn't hear anyone saying he had time off because of it.
ReplyDeleteGarth is alright in small does but an entire Garth-centric episode is not something that I'm looking forward too.
ReplyDeleteThe episode is aparently Dean centric Garth is just the plot device.
ReplyDeleteEven if that's true, this still seems like a whole lot of Garth.
ReplyDeleteI do recall Jared mentioning that he was not going to have time off at all like in the first half. These upcoming episodes were already finished when they took their Winter Break. Over on Twitter, Russ had tweeted the schedule of production and on Dec 20th (last day of filming and start of break) they were on 9.14 Day 4. That should be wrapping up since J2 went back to work this week. Hopefully now TPTB start to focus on Sam and Dean. I am not interested in the angel storyline anymore. I want Sam and Dean's story.
ReplyDeleteI have to say I loved everything you said in your comment. I am also hoping that this is the wrap up to Dean's arc. I would like for them to start to put some focus on what went on with Sam now that Sam will be back with us. I really enjoyed Jared's work playing Ezekiel/Gadreel but I want inside Sam's head, how he feels, and his POV. I am sure he will be just as upset as Dean in regards to Kevin. It may not have been him but it was his body that killed Kevin. Jared had mentioned Sam has an upcoming crying scene in the second half. I am fine with Dean showing his "dark" side which is all emotional and Jensen will be great but, I am glad Carver pointed out it is short lived and there's no time for a pity party. I am ready for strong, bad-ass Dean to be back and ready to go hunt monsters with his little brother.
ReplyDeleteI guess to me less filming doesn't necessarily mean barely being in episodes.
ReplyDeleteI would rather see both Dean and Sam have an arc - this used to be done in the earlier seasons. I prefer this to one being dropped. Dean's story really has to go the full season to have power.
ReplyDeleteAs for Garth, after the way he was used to shame Dean over his anger toward Sam, I don't want Sam to speak up on his behalf. Sam has his own anger, the writing should focus on that.
I'd like to see Garth as a monster ... then they realize, yes, Virginia, there always was a grey area in the supernatural world. Cause Garth has found a way to control whatever urges he has a werewolf (I want him to be a werewolf), and his running away is knowing that Dean kills anything without asking questions. Who knows what Sam would do at this point. The whole Benny thing last season confused the crap out of me, but whatever. Then there's a lot of angst and Dean lets Garth go and Garth leaves the show, being a werewolf all Remus Lupin-style. You know - like a mo-freakin' boss. Of course, he can no longer be the Bobby, but if they utilize the MOL information, they no longer need a Bobby anyway. See, I fixed it all. Now to work on World Peace.
ReplyDeleteNot that I don't believe he said that, but do you have a link to the article/whatever where this was said?
ReplyDeleteUnless it's something they told Jared to say was the reason ... to cover up that they just have no idea or interest about writing his character.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on most part, but there's been never a 'Dean's arc' until now. The first half, except episode 1 & 2, was horribly missing Sam and brother interaction, but it wasn't about Dean either.
ReplyDeleteI really hope it ends with brothers at the same side, I'm dreading sth like Southern Comfort, which was written by Adam Glass too; I don't want it to end in dark drama and Winchester fight.
Well, nothing happened with Jensen's baby because his kid was due at the end of May. Which was basically a full month after they wrapped filming for the Season. Unlike Jared's kids who both have been due during filming season.
ReplyDeleteAs long as this episode isn't Garth-centric, I guess I can stomach him for one episode. I also hope the writers don't drop anymore of Dean's storylines.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. They need to complete Dean's arc. It's been a long time coming.
ReplyDeleteIf I remember correctly, the excuse about JP having more time off was used during his wife's pregnancies too. I'm sure that even if JA's child was born during the filming season, he wouldn't have had extra time off.
ReplyDeleteThey are professionals, after all. At most they'd get a couple of days off for the birth.
Unless it's something they told Jared to say was the reason ... to cover up that they just have no idea or interest about writing his character.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds more likely! It's been abundantly clear since about S4 that the writers have very little interest in Sam or his POV.
I mean what was the reason for dropping Sam's mission to cure demons arc? They talked it up all summer and then just dropped it. Are they really incapable of having arcs for the TWO leads at the same time!?!?!
They would never give Jensen time off or dare to write an episode that had very little Dean. That "honor" only goes to Sam/Jared!
ReplyDeleteI've never seen a group of writers that have trouble writing for two characters! I wonder what they would have done if they worked on LOST or some other ensemble show? I guess they would have lost their minds!
IMO they are just poor, uncreative, uncaring writers.
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The writers of the earlier seasons put their hearts and soul into their episodes. You could see the care that was taken.They refined the details, and nearly everything fitted into the overall picture.
That doesn't happen any more. There seems to be no co-ordination between the various writers. Everybody does their own thing, so it's not surprising that the show has lost it's way.It's wandering through the desert without ever managing to reach an oasis.
I undestand that it's in its last years but still, it could be so much better if TPTB really cared.
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As for not being able to write for two sole leads. Just about any fanfic writer can come up with a thrilling plot that involves the two bros on an equal footing; can't undestand why these paid professionals can't!
I kinda like the idea of Garth being a werewolf and the boys hunting him, but letting him go to be wolf-pack king or something. Maybe he could make a guest appearance on Teen Wolf . lol.
ReplyDeleteLoved your ideas. :).
I thought the same thing but aren't vampires invulnerable to human illnesses/injuries? Why would he be laid up in the hospital if that were the case? Also, in the upcoming episodes preview it sort of looked like Sam was doing something to him just before he woke up. Which leads me to think that there's a possibility that whatever lingering grace that was left inside of him once Gadreel is ejected might give him slight angelic powers. Or that could just be wishful thinking on my part.
ReplyDeleteGen's due date had nothing to do with why Jared had all of that time off. He filmed right up until she went into labor with Thomas and he only took one day off when he was born and flew right back to Vancouver afterward. Jared even mentioned at ChiCon in October that he might not get any time off this time around. They were filming the mid-season finale at that point I think, so he probably wasn't even aware of how light his schedule was going to be when he said that. Jared has always come through whenever he's been needed on set, he filmed part of Simon Said on the same day he had just had surgery to have pins put in his arm. So there's a different reason why he was written lightly and I'm more apt to believe that it's because Sam isn't going to be given very much to do in the second half.
ReplyDeleteSo there's a different reason why he was written lightly and I'm more apt to believe that it's because Sam isn't going to be given very much to do in the second half.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I think too. I don't think Sam is going to be doing much in the second half, which sucks b/c he really didn't do much in the first half either.
I hope they have something planned for BOTH boys, and that the show doesn't become all "angel-focused."
I completely agree w/you. I don't think there is any passion for Supernatural in the writer's room unless that writer is doing an episode for their own creation or something. The interest in Sam and Dean is very low, and the show suffers for it, IMO. I know the ratings are good, but the show isn't what it used to be to me.
ReplyDeleteYeah, you're correct! It's not so much that the writers aren't interested in writing for SPN, they're not interested in writing for Sam and Dean!
ReplyDeleteThey would probably be quite happy to kill them off and serve up their own characters.
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It shouldn't be long before we get more info on this supposed spin-off. I'm curious to see if they come up with something crappy like Man's Best Friends With Benefits!
Agreed. Jared's screentime in the first half was split between playing Sam and Gadreel, and the Sam parts we got had little to no character development at all. It doesn't seem as if there's going to be any in the second half either, which makes me wonder if they even care about him as a character anymore.
ReplyDeleteJensen seems to be getting most of the screentime out of the two because he's the one who gets to interact with all of the guest actors, but even he said that more screentime doesn't necessarily mean quality in terms of Dean's characterization. It's almost as if they've become nothing but plot devices on their own show. No wonder they requested a meeting with Carver and the writers, if I was them I'd be pissed too.
That would require Sam growing a set of balls and that doesn't seem as if something the writers are interested in having him do. I fully expect Garth to be the one to shame Dean about how he's been treating Sam because that's what happened the last time he appeared. Instead of hashing things out with one another, side characters have been shoe horned in to mediate between them. Even Castiel, who really should have his own anger issues towards Dean for the way he was treated earlier in the season is taking up on Dean's behalf to Sam in episode 11. The writing is all over the place with this show lately when it comes to the inter-personal relationships between the main characters while angels and demons are taking front and center stage. It's a mess.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'm considering Sam a "wash" for the rest of the year. I heard murmurs about some suicidal ideation but to do that right, the writers have to focus on Sam's POV so I doubt that's gonna happen. Or if it does, I dout it will be done well!
ReplyDeleteI'm not seeing much for Dean either. I certainly have no desire to see him become Crowley's lackey. The boys did that in S6. As you said, they seem to have become plot points in their own story. It's really quite sad.
I'm not excited about the second half of the season at all but maybe they'll surprise me.
MBFWB did have a spin off feel, didn't it?
ReplyDeleteI'm not interested in th is spin off at all. The way in which the writers have lost complete interest in this show's main characters does not inspire to invest in any other show they create. Who knows when they would lose interest?
Sharp... teeth? I'm guessing either he's been monster-fied, or maybe it has something to do with the Tooth Fairy? I dunno. Teeth and Garth go way back.
ReplyDeleteMBFWF surely did.
ReplyDeleteIt's exactly what I would expect a Carver spin-off to be like.
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It has been said that it is going to be about humans & supernatural creatures mixing together, so maybe that ep. was just to test the waters. If so it was a mammoth flop!
Then Krissy and friends could be in it too. Teen hunters, and don't forget were-wolf girl from Bitten.Yuck!
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I'm just detachedly curious to see what these 'great creative minds' come up with, but I have absolutely no interest in watching a SPN clone without Sam and Dean.No way!
They need to plan their kids better ... so he can get some screentime.
ReplyDeleteI have a strong feeling the opening ratings will be strong for the spin off, but once it becomes clear we're not going to see the Winchesters, Castiel or any of the more popular characters crossing over, it'll slide in the ratings. The only way I'd see it having a real chance is if it's centered on Charlie. Then I know for sure I'm not watching it.
ReplyDeleteWhoa, they requested a meeting? Where was that said?
ReplyDeleteThey both mentioned it at BurCon during their meet and greets. People aren't supposed to talk about what is said in them but literally within hours of that convention there were reports filtering out about it. Apparently it's the first time in all 9 seasons that they've ever sat down in a room with all the writers and the showrunner together so it's a pretty big deal. The women who run that Fangasm blog also talked about it, saying that this was the first time that some of the writers had even met one another in person, which blows my mind. It paints a picture of just how much discord there is when you realize that they're not actually sitting in a writers' room together bouncing ideas off of one another. It's literally a free-for-all with this show, they write what they want to write and hope that it'll all tie in to the main story arc somehow.
ReplyDeleteJ2 seem like they're fed up with dropped storylines, Jensen mentioned Dean's alcoholism and PTST storylines that were just abruptly dropped out of nowhere and Jared was disappointed with how they handled Sam's hell memories/hallucinations. They're both disappointed that the show hasn't gone more in the direction of the Men of Letters. From everything I've heard they signed the contracts for seasons 9 and 10 under the belief that the MoL would be driving the mythology of the show and that hasn't panned out. Sam and Dean have become plot devices on their own show, so I can understand why Jared and Jensen would be unhappy with how things are being run right now. Hopefully Carver listened to them and took their input seriously because these two guys do still care about this show and what happens to these characters. They're not there just to pick up a check.
Interesting that your post confirms the feelings I've always had that there is no or very little co-ordination between the writers, showrunners, story-lines etc.
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I can understand the J's being unhappy with the quality of the show.
They are professionals, so they would never complain in public, but they are intelligent men and must realise that their characters are being underused and ignored; both of them; for even if Dean gets more screen time, his presence no longer has the driving force it used to have.
He's as much a plot device as Sam is now.
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The MOL story would have focused the attention on the brothers, but obviously that wasn't the aim of the writers,( or it changed abruptly), so they have pushed to the side what could have been a fascinating vehicle for eps; preferring to focus on the more easily written 'war between angels', where all they do is show us them killing and betraying each other.
A far cry from 'saving people, hunting things'!
I think what happened was that J2 were under the assumption that the show would be going back to basics once the MoL was introduced. That the brothers would be hunting things based on their research from things they discovered through the MoL archives and whatnot. So they happily resigned for seasons 9 and 10 only to find out that they'd be smack dab in the middle of another angels and demons mytharc. Not only that, they're being split up all the time in favor of side character's storylines, which is complete BS because the show is supposed to be about them.
ReplyDeleteThe difference between the way things are being run under Carver and the way they were run under Kripke and Gamble is that Kripke and Gamble didn't take J2's chemistry for granted. Even when the two previous showrunners made missteps they still had the brothers and their ability to carry this show to fall back on. Carver seems as if he's hell bent on splitting them up to further side characters' storylines along when he really should be focusing his attention on the brothers. Side characters should be treated as plot devices, not the other way around. J2 are not only very protective of their respective characters, they're also protective of the brothers' relationship, so it's really not all that surprising that they would request some sort of meeting to discuss where things are headed. Like I said, hopefully Carver takes their input seriously. You'd think he'd want to end things on a high note and I don't see how that would be even possible if he can't keep the 2 stars of the show happy.
The J's have every right to complain.
ReplyDeleteThey and they alone have carried the show from the pilot onwards, and their work should be recognised and appreciated, as should their loyalty in keeping the faith for 9 seasons now..
They should be at the fore-front of the show with the secondary characters providing the wallpaper not the other way around.
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I honestly can't understand how Carver thinks he is doing something exceptional in pursuing the s/l of separating the brothers and playing down their relationship in favour of what? Maturity? Or that trying to save one's brother is wrong, despite having the knowledge of the supernatural with which to do so?
I mean not everyone is on first name terms with Death himself and even shares a pizza with him!
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I never felt this alienation betweeen the bros in S1-7. Sure there were bad moments and misunderstandings between them, but the underlying care for each other was still there.
In season eight Carver did his best to break that ,and as yet I still don't understand why he thought that was a good idea. Go figure!
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We'll never know exactly what went on in the meeting between the actors and TPTB, but I hope that an eventual season 10 will go back to basics; at least to finish off the saga as it began, with the two brothers, the Impala and their destiny.
I remembered Garth had wanted to be a dentist so this title suits :)
ReplyDeleteI think Garth got in trouble with a hunt he was on and that creature is out on the loose or else. I don't think Garth did something terribly wrong and I enjoy to see him.
Does it involve sharp teeth?
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