I thought that was great. You guys already know my vote. Damn. R.I.P. Davina. I thought everybody's scenes were beautiful. Davina's speech to Marcel about her being ready. (Kinda mad she didn't say Josh's name though) Marcel crying and mourning in Klaus' arms, and Klaus opening up about his worries over Marcel, years ago. And yes I started to tear for the loss of Davina, when that stupid Sophie said "Please" PLEASE??? Ugh!!! I HATE Sophie!!!
Anyways as i was saying, I very much started to tear, and it ALMOST came down, UNTIL......that Haylijah scene!!! I jumped up quick staring at the tv, eyes wide open!! Held my breath, heart started racing, and thought IS THIS IT!?!??!?!? Then it came out,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! ughhh!!!!! LOL. Anyways i loved everyone's scenes. Klaus' with Hayley's him telling her about his heritage, and GASP!! Him kinda giving Hayley his blessing over her and Elijah (if you thought i wasn't gonna bring that up your crazy, lol).
Rebekah having a say so with her brothers. Elijah bringing up ESTHER!! That was nice. Klaus being impressed with Elijah's plans, calling him a "Mastermind". And wow!! I gotta say, i should've seen that coming, but i did not. I knew there was a reason, i wasn't too welcoming about Sabine. That Chick pulled a Klaus!! She is Celeste!! Well i'll be damned.
Doesn't mean he won't show up at some point, even in a dream or a flashback. I have a theory about why the resurrection didn't work (i.e. the harvest wasn't completed). Either Celeste stole all of the power from the consecrated remains to keep the resurrection from happening, or a certain other person's blood was needed because of a certain spell that The Original Witch did. Even the talk about her remains freaked me out. Personally I think Celeste caused the problem. Regardless of what Elijah said about ancestral witches anchoring the city, someone should destroy that graveyard. Maybe that's why there was a casting call for people to play dead bodies. No place for ancestral spirits, no ancestral witches, you know?
flashback? dream? Caroline said she did a bad thing.. I mean, it wouldn't be a big deal if she kiss with Klaus in her dream :D
and I have a question... doesn't Celeste look totally differently? 'Cause we saw her in a flashback and Sabine doesn't look like her.. sorry, I missed the first 10 minutes of this episode.. does Celeste possessed her?
From what you're saying about Klaus, it sounds like he somehow knew the plan involving Esther wouldn't work. There might have been something missing from the bloodletting they did to consecrate the remains. I seem to remember a certain spell involving a family tree. If Klaus kept that to himself, he should be nominated for sainthood. Those witches have to go. As for Rebecca lying about the garden, I'm starting to suspect that Klaus already knows what she's doing. Tyler could have been his informant. Klaus brings Tyler blood, Tyler talks about the most hated Original by most of Mystic Falls, who should NOT be running a city. That other guy could have been talking to Klaus behind Rebecca's back too. It was Rebecca and Marcel who put Tyler and Tierry(?) there to begin with. From the promos and other spoilers, it doesn't look like the garden will be used next week, so how does Tyler get onto TVD? To quote a producer: "It's Mystic Falls, anything can happen."
I was not expecting Davina to die so soon! I was just getting to know her character and falling in love with her! I'll miss her dearly :( Cami is not going to be happy when she finds out about her death.
The scene where Marcel broke down in front of Klaus was absolutely heartbreaking. That had to have hit him hard.
Also, are you kidding me Haylijah ?!?! This is the second time you guys were THIS close to kissing. Ugh, just do it already!
And woah at Sabine being Celeste this whole time! Nice plot twist. I wonder why she resurrected Bastiana and those two other people....
Actually I'm guessing that Klaus will be on a solo mission if he shows up in Mystic Falls. He'll probably bring Tyler with him. I don't think he tells his siblings everything he knows. He might have had one eye on Mystic Falls ever since he left.
That family tree spell was broken by Bonnie. So that spell has nothing to do with this. That was an ENTIRELY different spell. If it's the same spell we're talking about? I really believe Klaus had no clue that using Esther wouldn't work. As for Rebekah, with Tyler, idk maybe Klaus does know. I wouldn't put THAT past him. Marcel had put Thierry there way before he put Tyler there. Idt Rebekah put Tyler there, she just, snapped his neck. lol I haven't looked at ALL the spoilers for the 100th, I still want to stay in the dark with most of it. But what i am thinking, is that Rebekah could have released Tyler, and Klaus is just going after him, for what Tyler did. (revealing his child, etc etc)
Rebecca wouldn't have just released Tyler after what he did. She was only talking to Thierry and making promises that she might or might not keep. She never promised to let Tyler out. If Tyler overheard that, he could have found a way to bring it to Klaus' attention. I don't think Tyler would want to be used by Rebecca for whatever she's planning, even if it meant overthrowing Klaus.
I was talking about the spell that ensures that if any Original dies, everyone in their bloodline dies with them. Elena's blood was used to bind the spell. Her blood went pretty much everywhere. Using Esther's remains for anything was creepy. I was surprised that Elijah was the one to come up with it.
No, i don't mean just release him out of thin air, just cause. We don't know what the reason is, but there might be a good reason for her doing it. Sure it doesn't make any sense, NONE whatsoever, but again we don't know the whole story. The question is why the hell would KLAUS release Tyler?? That's what doesn't make sense. With Rebekah trying to take control over N.O. wih overthrowing her brother, letting Tyler out, for her to do some dirty work, seems like a really good distraction, on her part.
I seriously doubt Tyler would turn to Klaus as an ally in anything, even for blood, perhaps especially not just for blood. The "most hated Original by most of Mystic Falls, who should not be running a city" ... isn't that Klaus?
Yeah, that's the spell i was talking about. And that spell was broken. But nonetheless they still share a blood link,there are connected by blood either way. And Esther is/was the most powerful witch there was. So i really think they all thought it would've worked. I mean her blood IS there blood. I really thinks this all boils down to Sabine/Celeste....Celbine?? Saleste?? LOL (it's a work in progress). I think it didn't work b/c she's not really dead. She's been back for a yr. (maybe more) Maybe it's something she did, which is why everything backfired?? I wouldn't put it past her. I don't like her already. Regardless of Elijah's memories of her, she's not the woman she once was. I mean Davina "knew" she was coming. I think this was Celeste' best chance at becoming an Elder, and finally getting her revenge on Klaus and Elijah, maybe. I mean they say she was drowned b/c she was a witch, but then again Elijah also believes that Klaus killed her.
Klaus releasing Tyler from the garden makes no sense, unless it's going to somehow serve his own purpose, or perhaps appease Caroline. Tyler I can't picture turning to Klaus for anything. He may not trust Rebekah, but... serious doubts about him buddying up with Klaus under any circumstance.
I think what happened was that Klaus reported Celeste as one of many witches. If she was so evil that Davina was drawing pictures, she was probably always evil. Elijah has a blind spot when it comes to women. I think he was actually talking about Katherine when he said he fell in love twice.
Yes, you're right. It had to be Celeste who took all of the power. She was doing strange voodoo spells throughout the episode.
I think people are overestimating how much Klaus cares about the baby and underestimating how much Rebecca does. Klaus just wants the city and he could give or take an "heir," but Rebecca is all about the children. Caroline could be a factor in Tyler's release as well.
Yeah i agree. I don't see that at all. Tyler would "trust" Bex much faster than he would make a deal with Klaus, under any circumstances. And idt Klaus playing the Caroline card would work on Tyler either. Tyler already went there with Klaus with Caroline already, Tyler's not falling for that. He knows Klaus won't hurt Caroline. I think Bex takes responsibility for this one. I just don't know what her motive is yet, except for the one i just came up with. Hahaha Distraction.
There's no way to tell for sure what Caroline's bad thing was. It could involve Stefan or Tyler too, according to the synopsis. In the "Defining Moments" promo, it looked like Klaus wasn't exactly happy to see Caroline. Then there's the Australian promo, which shows them about to kiss. Two more days until we find out what exactly is going on.
Just joining this convo, but my two cents: if it is Klaus that releases Tyler, and it is about Caroline, I'm guessing Tyler's release will then have absolutely nothing to do with his attitude and whether or not he even agrees to the situation, and everything to do with Caroline. Pure speculation I guess, but maybe Caroline suspects Klaus has killed Tyler... Klaus therefore shows up in MF dragging Tyler in a heap as a peace offering and to prove he hasn't, which Caroline may or may not appreciate.
Yeah, i could see Klaus doing that. That's definitely up his alley. But idt Celeste was always evil. I mean this was 200 yrs ago. Davina just started drawing those pictures. Something happened drastically between her death and now. Whenever she came back (a yr ago) I think that's when Davina started drawing. As for Elijah. That twice thing was a dead giveaway. Of course he was talking about Katherine, But idt he has a blind spot. I think he tries to see the good in people, the good that he actually fell for, UNTIL he realizes they can't be saved, hence Katherine. He gave up on her. He held on as long as he could and couldn't do it anymore. With Celeste, it seems like their relationship, was short lived.
Maybe. I could go with that. Hahaha, yeah i could see that. Caroline wanting proof of Tyler's survival, and Klaus just dragging his ass along. That's one option.
That's what I was trying to say before. Klaus would drag Tyler back and say, "Look what I brought." If I gave someone the idea that believed Klaus would threaten Caroline, that's not what I meant.
Holy crap! Sabine is Celeste! Holy crap! Poor Davina, Marcel, and Sophie though. :( Klaus was actually kinda nice this ep, that was welcome after all the nasty vibes he's been throwing lately.
Still no idea how Tyler is suspose to get out or why Klaus would go to MF this week. :(
I think it didn't work because Celeste/Sabine syphoned the power for herself and three other witches - one resurrected which for each slaughtered girl. If Sabine has been really Celeste all this time, I wander if the prophecy about the baby was a lie then? Maybe Klaus's baby isn't a threat to humanity and ore supes community but a threat to her?
I doubt Tyler or Thierry would be talking to Klaus as informants. Thierry especially has less reason to trust Klaus since Klaus's manipulations are what got him there in the first place. I'm not saying he should trust Rebekah, but Klaus? Doubtful. And Rebekah didn't put Thierry in the garden, nor had much to do with that at all.
I wonder if Sabine's/Celeste's prophecy about Klaus's baby was a lie then? Maybe she fears it and wanted it dead or she just was just feeling vengeful since he callously got her murdered without a second thought and therefore wanted it dead? Maybe Tyler gets out because of some flood damage? Being a hybrid, they could explain that he was strong enough to break free while the other vamps just had to stay there and continue to suffer since most of them shouldn't be able to barely even move much less dig and swim themselves way free. Extra yay for Klaus not being a total jerkface the entire ep again! YAY! :D
I'm pretty sure I heard him say 'I have to go and warn some friends (about the harvest)' so maybe he made a quick dash then. Or maybe that was his wolf pals. Or both lol!
I think he meant the wolves since Kerrian had them rounded up in the church and apparently Klaus already stopped by with supplies for them once already when he took Hayley there.
Holy crap! I just had a random thought! Only the original witch could "undo" vampirism and Sophie absorbed her power, then does that give Sophie the power to cure vampires and thus make her the most dangerous witch in the French Quarter?
Yeah I agree. She doesn't know the spell. And Esther's Grimoire's are locked away with the Mikhaelson's. Idt Esther put that spell in there anyway. She probably kept that for herself, in her memory. But even if it was in the books, Sophie isn't getting passed 3 Originals to get that book. I doubt she even knows that they have it. Yeah Davina knew, but she didn't tell Sophie. Nor did Elijah.
Interesting idea. One thing we do know, that power is going to come into play somehow. As Rebekah said - kill the demon today, deal with the devil tomorrow... or whatever the exact quote was.
It would be interesting if a whacked-out witch made Klaus human or just a werewolf that changes at the full moon. Elijah would get excited, but then the Mikaelsons would have to deal with the fact that they're going to outlive Klaus. I'm not saying Klaus deserves to be made human, but that could be a good source of redemption. He's crazy on that show right now, with very little hint of humanity. There is a synopsis that talks about repercussions when Klaus attacks the Cauldron.
Esther could make them human, she was going to turn Finn human and then kill him when she linked them together so they'd all die. It's been stated that she is the ONLY witch that can cure it since she cast it, hence why no other vampire in history has ever been cured before... until Elena cried and that whole hotmess started, lol. I thought Klaus was much better this ep, wasn't as nasty as he's been lately. I think he needs Caroline to calm his ass down.
Awful, with the possible exception of the emotional and confusing ending, I just felt this episode was just filler until the big bad came out, I just think I'm feeling witch fatigue.
This just hit me,how do we know the scene with Klaus and Caroline takes place in Mystic Falls?What if those woods r in NO.I mean it's been stated he's on the 100 episode I don't think it's ever been stated he's back in Mystic Falls.If I'm wrong let me know.
If he visits MF with Tyler or Marcel in tow, i will so disappointed. I want Elijah or at least Rebekah there. I hope they don't waste opportunities. There aren't going to be a lot of crossovers before TVd is over. After what happened last episode i think Klaus somehow will find out that Bonnie can see the dead and goes to maybe talk to her to find out what is happening with witches in NOLA. Like Davina was supposed to pass through her.
Davina will obviously be back and soon so don't woirry people she is not getting killed off. There is one thing i notice Celeste stole the power meant to resurrect 4 people and brought back only 3. She was already in Sabine's body for 1 year. So either the 4th person is hiding or one more person can still be saved. And that person of course will be Davina and not Sophie's niece. She will probably try to save her but fail again, i feel so bad for her. Hope she gets over her familly loss soon, it's not her fault her sister risked her daugther's life.
Well made point, about Celeste making the prophecy. I now think she only said it to get witches to kill Klaus' baby. She hates him and is coming after him it makes sens for her to murder his child as well. Sneaky little biotch
Sophie is left with nothing. First Celeste kept all her own power that's why Sophie coudln't take it from the bones. And then Celeste cockblocked Sophie from using Esther's power. Sophie is not an elder, so that's why the girls didn't come back. Celeste and the three resurrected witches have Esther's power.
LOL...Elijah and Hayley won't kiss while she's in labor. That would be Sooo awkward and definitely won't be the right time for them to kiss. No way. She'll be screaming in pain, probably throwing things at Klaus and saying how much she hates him for this. Lol If anything Elijah and Hayley will kiss AFTER she has the baby. But it won't be the same day.
I think Esther's plan was to cure all of them of immorality and then kill Finn (since they were linked together and mortal - they'd all die together and there would be no more vampires in the world).
I've never understood why she was going to kill after she made them human though. It seems like they would have just had to live out their lives at that point (or die of old age like Katherine is now) unless she was worried that one of her children knew the immorality spell and they would turn themselves back.
I mainly just threw humanity in there cuz I'd imagine if it threatens the supes, the destruction would likely bleed out into the "normal" world. Regular vamps turning and feeding on much more peeps to keep their ranks going and hybrids themselves needing to feed on humans, witches likely trying to stop them or take sides between the hybrids and vamps, etc, etc, I'd imagine, it could get really nasty if it really went down like that.
I think Sophie did get the power and was made an elder, otherwise the harvest wouldn't have been completed. What Celeste did was syphon the power for her self and three dead witches. One dead girl for each witch - counting herself.
Yeah sorry I didnt express well. After she gives birth they will kiss. Like those sweet moments couples have. I think she will have a difficult lavour and she will almost die. Elijah will be scare but after she delivers and survives and every is ok they will kiss.:)
I didn't understand that either, cept maybe she knew killing them would kill all vampires and had it worked in the spell that they'd remain the "sire" of the lines even while mortal and she wasn't willing to wait it out while they lived out human lives before once and for all putting an end to the mistake she made with the death of every. single. vampire. in. existence.
So I guess the Harvest was right all along and if Davina had gone through with it in the first place instead of being "rescued" by Marcel, then none of this would have happened. I wonder is Sabine/Celeste was responsible for Davina not knowing how she was going to be sacrificed and thus freaking out... that she's been playing everyone all along. And her prophecy about the baby could be prompted over hatred of Klaus and some jealousy over Elijah's feelings for Hailey (first time I've seriously 'shipped' a romance but those two have amazing chemistry in their scenes!)
But Celeste was already in Sabine's body for a year, there was a scene with light going up her arm which meant she either took all of Esther's power or one quarter of it, we will find out soon enough, i think there is still a possibility for 1 witch to come back. If Celeste's used up all 4 dead girls free passes she would have gotten her own body back. And of course it's going to be Davina and not Sophie's niece(( I don't mind Davina but i wish both her and Monique could be resurrected.
The light she got was the same light Davina had crawl up her arm at the ritual - so what Sabine/Celeste got is definitely harvest related not Esther related.
The whole kill your maker thus killing all made vampires by that maker doesn't sit right on Being Human and it has been for several seasons now lol
I mean if that's the whole rule of vampire then how the hell Adian and his ex wife still alive after Bishop been killed lol..Sorry for the off topic here but i had to point it out
Celeste will not forgive Elijah and i'm thinking she been testing him and seems he failed the test but yet again Celeste has no idea it was Hayley who spilled the beans not Elijah lol
You're wayyyy off. The rules on TVD/T.O., that was a spell done. TVD/T.O. and BH is COMPLETEY different. Now shhhhh!!!! I'm trying to enjoy my 100th episode!!
Now this is how you do a great twist! Sabine was Celeste all the time, and i really felt something strange in her scene with Elijah! Now that's explain a lot!
This was a great episode. I enjoyed all of the character interactions, the overall storyline, and the effects. I'm so sad about Davina dying though. I really hope she's not gone for good. I was hoping Davina would become a permanent cast member, part of the tween set, perhaps become a younger sister figure for the rest, like what the writing was leaning towards in the last episode and this one. If this show makes all of their guest/recurring stars as expendable as Vampire Diaries, then I don't see the point of caring for anyone that's not main cast.
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OH MY GAH. OH MY GAH that ending.
ReplyDeleteKlaus didn't mention Mystic Falls... :(
ReplyDeleteI can't even anymore....like what ? I mean... WHAT IN THE HOLY NAME OF FUDGE ?!
ReplyDeleteSabine was Celeste the whole time ?
Esthers magic is now in Sophie ?
and while I hate shipping but that Elijah Hayley scene was magnificent.
And that final scene...and Davina...and...I'm dead
And Klaus was actually NICE this episode !
I LOVED IT !!!
and this matters because ?
ReplyDeletebecause he's in the 100th episode of TVD.. or TVD has a totally different timeline?
ReplyDeleteI thought that was great. You guys already know my vote. Damn. R.I.P. Davina. I thought everybody's scenes were beautiful. Davina's speech to Marcel about her being ready. (Kinda mad she didn't say Josh's name though) Marcel crying and mourning in Klaus' arms, and Klaus opening up about his worries over Marcel, years ago. And yes I started to tear for the loss of Davina, when that stupid Sophie said "Please" PLEASE??? Ugh!!! I HATE Sophie!!!
ReplyDeleteAnyways as i was saying, I very much started to tear, and it ALMOST came down, UNTIL......that Haylijah scene!!! I jumped up quick staring at the tv, eyes wide open!! Held my breath, heart started racing, and thought IS THIS IT!?!??!?!? Then it came out,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! ughhh!!!!! LOL. Anyways i loved everyone's scenes. Klaus' with Hayley's him telling her about his heritage, and GASP!! Him kinda giving Hayley his blessing over her and Elijah (if you thought i wasn't gonna bring that up your crazy, lol).
Rebekah having a say so with her brothers. Elijah bringing up ESTHER!! That was nice. Klaus being impressed with Elijah's plans, calling him a "Mastermind". And wow!! I gotta say, i should've seen that coming, but i did not. I knew there was a reason, i wasn't too welcoming about Sabine. That Chick pulled a Klaus!! She is Celeste!! Well i'll be damned.
Doesn't mean he won't show up at some point, even in a dream or a flashback. I have a theory about why the resurrection didn't work (i.e. the harvest wasn't completed). Either Celeste stole all of the power from the consecrated remains to keep the resurrection from happening, or a certain other person's blood was needed because of a certain spell that The Original Witch did. Even the talk about her remains freaked me out. Personally I think Celeste caused the problem. Regardless of what Elijah said about ancestral witches anchoring the city, someone should destroy that graveyard. Maybe that's why there was a casting call for people to play dead bodies. No place for ancestral spirits, no ancestral witches, you know?
ReplyDeleteflashback? dream? Caroline said she did a bad thing.. I mean, it wouldn't be a big deal if she kiss with Klaus in her dream :D
ReplyDeleteand I have a question... doesn't Celeste look totally differently? 'Cause we saw her in a flashback and Sabine doesn't look like her.. sorry, I missed the first 10 minutes of this episode.. does Celeste possessed her?
they actually have the same timeline but I gave up taking TVD serious anymore. What happens on TO is its own canon for me.
ReplyDeleteHe'll appear in the 100th don't worry
That's Sabine's body but I beleive Celeste's spirit went into Sabine but I could be wrong.
ReplyDeleteyeah, it makes sense.. anyway, the episode was awesome.
ReplyDeleteone was Bastiana (the witch that slit the girls throat in 'Sinners and Saints')
ReplyDeleteYeah, I know.. I can't wait this TVD episode, THE 100th episode, too. :D
ReplyDeleteI'm seriously hoping that Elijah and Rebekah show up as well, it would kinda make sense
ReplyDeleteFrom what you're saying about Klaus, it sounds like he somehow knew the plan involving Esther wouldn't work. There might have been something missing from the bloodletting they did to consecrate the remains. I seem to remember a certain spell involving a family tree. If Klaus kept that to himself, he should be nominated for sainthood. Those witches have to go. As for Rebecca lying about the garden, I'm starting to suspect that Klaus already knows what she's doing. Tyler could have been his informant. Klaus brings Tyler blood, Tyler talks about the most hated Original by most of Mystic Falls, who should NOT be running a city. That other guy could have been talking to Klaus behind Rebecca's back too. It was Rebecca and Marcel who put Tyler and Tierry(?) there to begin with. From the promos and other spoilers, it doesn't look like the garden will be used next week, so how does Tyler get onto TVD? To quote a producer: "It's Mystic Falls, anything can happen."
ReplyDeleteThank You. B/c i didn't remember her at all. I'm still upset about Davina. = (
ReplyDeleteWow, that was pretty intense!
ReplyDeleteI was not expecting Davina to die so soon! I was just getting to know her character and falling in love with her! I'll miss her dearly :( Cami is not going to be happy when she finds out about her death.
The scene where Marcel broke down in front of Klaus was absolutely heartbreaking. That had to have hit him hard.
Also, are you kidding me Haylijah ?!?! This is the second time you guys were THIS close to kissing. Ugh, just do it already!
And woah at Sabine being Celeste this whole time! Nice plot twist. I wonder why she resurrected Bastiana and those two other people....
I can't wait for next week!
Yeah, that is another thing I do not understand..
ReplyDeletethey said Klaus will visit MF with somebody.. maybe Elijah or Bekah is the other person.
ReplyDeleteActually I'm guessing that Klaus will be on a solo mission if he shows up in Mystic Falls. He'll probably bring Tyler with him. I don't think he tells his siblings everything he knows. He might have had one eye on Mystic Falls ever since he left.
ReplyDeleteThat family tree spell was broken by Bonnie. So that spell has nothing to do with this. That was an ENTIRELY different spell. If it's the same spell we're talking about? I really believe Klaus had no clue that using Esther wouldn't work. As for Rebekah, with Tyler, idk maybe Klaus does know. I wouldn't put THAT past him. Marcel had put Thierry there way before he put Tyler there. Idt Rebekah put Tyler there, she just, snapped his neck. lol I haven't looked at ALL the spoilers for the 100th, I still want to stay in the dark with most of it. But what i am thinking, is that Rebekah could have released Tyler, and Klaus is just going after him, for what Tyler did. (revealing his child, etc etc)
ReplyDeleteRebecca wouldn't have just released Tyler after what he did. She was only talking to Thierry and making promises that she might or might not keep. She never promised to let Tyler out. If Tyler overheard that, he could have found a way to bring it to Klaus' attention. I don't think Tyler would want to be used by Rebecca for whatever she's planning, even if it meant overthrowing Klaus.
ReplyDeleteI was talking about the spell that ensures that if any Original dies, everyone in their bloodline dies with them. Elena's blood was used to bind the spell. Her blood went pretty much everywhere. Using Esther's remains for anything was creepy. I was surprised that Elijah was the one to come up with it.
ReplyDeleteNo, i don't mean just release him out of thin air, just cause. We don't know what the reason is, but there might be a good reason for her doing it. Sure it doesn't make any sense, NONE whatsoever, but again we don't know the whole story. The question is why the hell would KLAUS release Tyler?? That's what doesn't make sense. With Rebekah trying to take control over N.O. wih overthrowing her brother, letting Tyler out, for her to do some dirty work, seems like a really good distraction, on her part.
ReplyDeleteI seriously doubt Tyler would turn to Klaus as an ally in anything, even for blood, perhaps especially not just for blood. The "most hated Original by most of Mystic Falls, who should not be running a city" ... isn't that Klaus?
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's the spell i was talking about. And that spell was broken. But nonetheless they still share a blood link,there are connected by blood either way. And Esther is/was the most powerful witch there was. So i really think they all thought it would've worked. I mean her blood IS there blood. I really thinks this all boils down to Sabine/Celeste....Celbine?? Saleste?? LOL (it's a work in progress). I think it didn't work b/c she's not really dead. She's been back for a yr. (maybe more) Maybe it's something she did, which is why everything backfired?? I wouldn't put it past her. I don't like her already. Regardless of Elijah's memories of her, she's not the woman she once was. I mean Davina "knew" she was coming. I think this was Celeste' best chance at becoming an Elder, and finally getting her revenge on Klaus and Elijah, maybe. I mean they say she was drowned b/c she was a witch, but then again Elijah also believes that Klaus killed her.
ReplyDeleteKlaus releasing Tyler from the garden makes no sense, unless it's going to somehow serve his own purpose, or perhaps appease Caroline. Tyler I can't picture turning to Klaus for anything. He may not trust Rebekah, but... serious doubts about him buddying up with Klaus under any circumstance.
ReplyDeleteI think what happened was that Klaus reported Celeste as one of many witches. If she was so evil that Davina was drawing pictures, she was probably always evil. Elijah has a blind spot when it comes to women. I think he was actually talking about Katherine when he said he fell in love twice.
ReplyDeleteYes, you're right. It had to be Celeste who took all of the power. She was doing strange voodoo spells throughout the episode.
I think people are overestimating how much Klaus cares about the baby and underestimating how much Rebecca does. Klaus just wants the city and he could give or take an "heir," but Rebecca is all about the children. Caroline could be a factor in Tyler's release as well.
ReplyDeleteYeah i agree. I don't see that at all. Tyler would "trust" Bex much faster than he would make a deal with Klaus, under any circumstances. And idt Klaus playing the Caroline card would work on Tyler either. Tyler already went there with Klaus with Caroline already, Tyler's not falling for that. He knows Klaus won't hurt Caroline. I think Bex takes responsibility for this one. I just don't know what her motive is yet, except for the one i just came up with. Hahaha Distraction.
ReplyDeleteThere's no way to tell for sure what Caroline's bad thing was. It could involve Stefan or Tyler too, according to the synopsis. In the "Defining Moments" promo, it looked like Klaus wasn't exactly happy to see Caroline. Then there's the Australian promo, which shows them about to kiss. Two more days until we find out what exactly is going on.
ReplyDeleteJust joining this convo, but my two cents: if it is Klaus that releases Tyler, and it is about Caroline, I'm guessing Tyler's release will then have absolutely nothing to do with his attitude and whether or not he even agrees to the situation, and everything to do with Caroline. Pure speculation I guess, but maybe Caroline suspects Klaus has killed Tyler... Klaus therefore shows up in MF dragging Tyler in a heap as a peace offering and to prove he hasn't, which Caroline may or may not appreciate.
ReplyDeleteYeah, i could see Klaus doing that. That's definitely up his alley. But idt Celeste was always evil. I mean this was 200 yrs ago. Davina just started drawing those pictures. Something happened drastically between her death and now. Whenever she came back (a yr ago) I think that's when Davina started drawing. As for Elijah. That twice thing was a dead giveaway. Of course he was talking about Katherine, But idt he has a blind spot. I think he tries to see the good in people, the good that he actually fell for, UNTIL he realizes they can't be saved, hence Katherine. He gave up on her. He held on as long as he could and couldn't do it anymore. With Celeste, it seems like their relationship, was short lived.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the same thing. There's a possibility that the 100th episode of TVD takes place at the same time as an earlier part of the TO season.
ReplyDeleteMaybe. I could go with that. Hahaha, yeah i could see that. Caroline wanting proof of Tyler's survival, and Klaus just dragging his ass along. That's one option.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I was trying to say before. Klaus would drag Tyler back and say, "Look what I brought." If I gave someone the idea that believed Klaus would threaten Caroline, that's not what I meant.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's what i thought you meant, the second one. My bad.
ReplyDeleteThat's much closer to what I was thinking. lol. "Here, my Caroline, a gift to you. See, he's alive. Blink, Tyler, show her you're alive."
ReplyDeleteIf he visits with Elijah, and Elijah witnesses Nadia's little hail mary, that's something I would like to see.
ReplyDeleteHoly crap! Sabine is Celeste! Holy crap! Poor Davina, Marcel, and Sophie though. :( Klaus was actually kinda nice this ep, that was welcome after all the nasty vibes he's been throwing lately.
ReplyDeleteStill no idea how Tyler is suspose to get out or why Klaus would go to MF this week. :(
I think it didn't work because Celeste/Sabine syphoned the power for herself and three other witches - one resurrected which for each slaughtered girl.
ReplyDeleteIf Sabine has been really Celeste all this time, I wander if the prophecy about the baby was a lie then? Maybe Klaus's baby isn't a threat to humanity and ore supes community but a threat to her?
I doubt Tyler or Thierry would be talking to Klaus as informants. Thierry especially has less reason to trust Klaus since Klaus's manipulations are what got him there in the first place. I'm not saying he should trust Rebekah, but Klaus? Doubtful. And Rebekah didn't put Thierry in the garden, nor had much to do with that at all.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Sabine's/Celeste's prophecy about Klaus's baby was a lie then? Maybe she fears it and wanted it dead or she just was just feeling vengeful since he callously got her murdered without a second thought and therefore wanted it dead?
ReplyDeleteMaybe Tyler gets out because of some flood damage? Being a hybrid, they could explain that he was strong enough to break free while the other vamps just had to stay there and continue to suffer since most of them shouldn't be able to barely even move much less dig and swim themselves way free.
Extra yay for Klaus not being a total jerkface the entire ep again! YAY! :D
I think that would be hilarious if Tyler got out because of... flood damage. Whoops.
ReplyDeleteLol, well I have other idea how he'd get out. :p
ReplyDeletelol. It might be around Caroline's B-Day again... perfect present! haha
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure I heard him say 'I have to go and warn some friends (about the harvest)' so maybe he made a quick dash then. Or maybe that was his wolf pals. Or both lol!
ReplyDeleteI think he meant the wolves since Kerrian had them rounded up in the church and apparently Klaus already stopped by with supplies for them once already when he took Hayley there.
ReplyDeleteFor the record I never want to see Hayley cry again. Phoebe Tonkin has one of those heartbreaking ways of crying, even if it is fake.
ReplyDeleteHoly crap! I just had a random thought! Only the original witch could "undo" vampirism and Sophie absorbed her power, then does that give Sophie the power to cure vampires and thus make her the most dangerous witch in the French Quarter?
ReplyDeleteDoesn't know the spell.
ReplyDeleteYeah I agree. She doesn't know the spell. And Esther's Grimoire's are locked away with the Mikhaelson's. Idt Esther put that spell in there anyway. She probably kept that for herself, in her memory. But even if it was in the books, Sophie isn't getting passed 3 Originals to get that book. I doubt she even knows that they have it. Yeah Davina knew, but she didn't tell Sophie. Nor did Elijah.
ReplyDeleteInteresting idea. One thing we do know, that power is going to come into play somehow. As Rebekah said - kill the demon today, deal with the devil tomorrow... or whatever the exact quote was.
ReplyDeleteya i remember that too and elijah saying something about "paying his respect"....
ReplyDeleteIt would be interesting if a whacked-out witch made Klaus human or just a werewolf that changes at the full moon. Elijah would get excited, but then the Mikaelsons would have to deal with the fact that they're going to outlive Klaus. I'm not saying Klaus deserves to be made human, but that could be a good source of redemption. He's crazy on that show right now, with very little hint of humanity. There is a synopsis that talks about repercussions when Klaus attacks the Cauldron.
ReplyDeleteEsther could make them human, she was going to turn Finn human and then kill him when she linked them together so they'd all die. It's been stated that she is the ONLY witch that can cure it since she cast it, hence why no other vampire in history has ever been cured before... until Elena cried and that whole hotmess started, lol.
ReplyDeleteI thought Klaus was much better this ep, wasn't as nasty as he's been lately. I think he needs Caroline to calm his ass down.
Awful, with the possible exception of the emotional and confusing ending, I just felt this episode was just filler until the big bad came out, I just think I'm feeling witch fatigue.
ReplyDeleteThis just hit me,how do we know the scene with Klaus and Caroline takes place in Mystic Falls?What if those woods r in NO.I mean it's been stated he's on the 100 episode I don't think it's ever been stated he's back in Mystic Falls.If I'm wrong let me know.
ReplyDeleteI think elijah and ally willl kiss when she's on lavour.
ReplyDeleteI wish so badly they could of kissed :(
ReplyDeleteIf he visits MF with Tyler or Marcel in tow, i will so disappointed.
ReplyDeleteI want Elijah or at least Rebekah there.
I hope they don't waste opportunities. There aren't going to be a lot of crossovers before TVd is over.
After what happened last episode i think Klaus somehow will find out that Bonnie can see the dead and goes to maybe talk to her to find out what is happening with witches in NOLA. Like Davina was supposed to pass through her.
Davina will obviously be back and soon so don't woirry people she is not getting killed off.
ReplyDeleteThere is one thing i notice Celeste stole the power meant to resurrect 4 people and brought back only 3. She was already in Sabine's body for 1 year. So either the 4th person is hiding or one more person can still be saved. And that person of course will be Davina and not Sophie's niece. She will probably try to save her but fail again, i feel so bad for her. Hope she gets over her familly loss soon, it's not her fault her sister risked her daugther's life.
Well made point, about Celeste making the prophecy. I now think she only said it to get witches to kill Klaus' baby. She hates him and is coming after him it makes sens for her to murder his child as well. Sneaky little biotch
ReplyDeleteSophie is left with nothing. First Celeste kept all her own power that's why Sophie coudln't take it from the bones. And then Celeste cockblocked Sophie from using Esther's power. Sophie is not an elder, so that's why the girls didn't come back. Celeste and the three resurrected witches have Esther's power.
ReplyDeleteLoved Klaus in this episode. It was good to see the good side of him again.
ReplyDeleteI´m sure Davina will be back. Good to see how much Marcel cared.
Wow that makes sense.
ReplyDeleteLOL...Elijah and Hayley won't kiss while she's in labor. That would be Sooo awkward and definitely won't be the right time for them to kiss. No way. She'll be screaming in pain, probably throwing things at Klaus and saying how much she hates him for this. Lol If anything Elijah and Hayley will kiss AFTER she has the baby. But it won't be the same day.
ReplyDeleteI think Esther's plan was to cure all of them of immorality and then kill Finn (since they were linked together and mortal - they'd all die together and there would be no more vampires in the world).
ReplyDeleteI've never understood why she was going to kill after she made them human though. It seems like they would have just had to live out their lives at that point (or die of old age like Katherine is now) unless she was worried that one of her children knew the immorality spell and they would turn themselves back.
Maybe Elijah was talking about Tatia and not Katherine
ReplyDeleteeveryone seems to forget Tatia .. Elijah was in love with her too .. although we never saw anything off it
ReplyDeleteI mainly just threw humanity in there cuz I'd imagine if it threatens the supes, the destruction would likely bleed out into the "normal" world. Regular vamps turning and feeding on much more peeps to keep their ranks going and hybrids themselves needing to feed on humans, witches likely trying to stop them or take sides between the hybrids and vamps, etc, etc, I'd imagine, it could get really nasty if it really went down like that.
ReplyDeleteI think Sophie did get the power and was made an elder, otherwise the harvest wouldn't have been completed. What Celeste did was syphon the power for her self and three dead witches. One dead girl for each witch - counting herself.
ReplyDeleteYeah sorry I didnt express well. After she gives birth they will kiss. Like those sweet moments couples have. I think she will have a difficult lavour and she will almost die. Elijah will be scare but after she delivers and survives and every is ok they will kiss.:)
ReplyDeleteReally emotional episode! T_T
ReplyDeleteagreed
ReplyDeleteI didn't understand that either, cept maybe she knew killing them would kill all vampires and had it worked in the spell that they'd remain the "sire" of the lines even while mortal and she wasn't willing to wait it out while they lived out human lives before once and for all putting an end to the mistake she made with the death of every. single. vampire. in. existence.
ReplyDeleteSo I guess the Harvest was right all along and if Davina had gone through with it in the first place instead of being "rescued" by Marcel, then none of this would have happened. I wonder is Sabine/Celeste was responsible for Davina not knowing how she was going to be sacrificed and thus freaking out... that she's been playing everyone all along. And her prophecy about the baby could be prompted over hatred of Klaus and some jealousy over Elijah's feelings for Hailey (first time I've seriously 'shipped' a romance but those two have amazing chemistry in their scenes!)
ReplyDeleteBut Celeste was already in Sabine's body for a year, there was a scene with light going up her arm which meant she either took all of Esther's power or one quarter of it, we will find out soon enough, i think there is still a possibility for 1 witch to come back. If Celeste's used up all 4 dead girls free passes she would have gotten her own body back.
ReplyDeleteAnd of course it's going to be Davina and not Sophie's niece(( I don't mind Davina but i wish both her and Monique could be resurrected.
The light she got was the same light Davina had crawl up her arm at the ritual - so what Sabine/Celeste got is definitely harvest related not Esther related.
ReplyDeleteShe did say she was tired of hearing ppl calling Sabine for a yr now and evidence does show it Celeste in Sabine's body
ReplyDeleteThe whole kill your maker thus killing all made vampires by that maker doesn't sit right on Being Human and it has been for several seasons now lol
ReplyDeleteI mean if that's the whole rule of vampire then how the hell Adian and his ex wife still alive after Bishop been killed lol..Sorry for the off topic here but i had to point it out
Celeste will not forgive Elijah and i'm thinking she been testing him and seems he failed the test but yet again Celeste has no idea it was Hayley who spilled the beans not Elijah lol
ReplyDeleteYou're wayyyy off. The rules on TVD/T.O., that was a spell done. TVD/T.O. and BH is COMPLETEY different. Now shhhhh!!!! I'm trying to enjoy my 100th episode!!
ReplyDeleteNow this is how you do a great twist! Sabine was Celeste all the time, and i really felt something strange in her scene with Elijah! Now that's explain a lot!
ReplyDeleteTO keeps getting better and better!
This was a great episode. I enjoyed all of the character interactions, the overall storyline, and the effects. I'm so sad about Davina dying though. I really hope she's not gone for good. I was hoping Davina would become a permanent cast member, part of the tween set, perhaps become a younger sister figure for the rest, like what the writing was leaning towards in the last episode and this one. If this show makes all of their guest/recurring stars as expendable as Vampire Diaries, then I don't see the point of caring for anyone that's not main cast.
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