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USD POLL : Which season of Buffy had the coolest Big Bad(s)?
2 Dec 2013
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S5 Glory was the most terrifying because for so long she was unbeatable, it was so hard seeing Buffy getting beat down by her but actually gave the show a real sense of danger. It wasn't like Buffy was going to defeat her with one punch and a clever remark.
ReplyDeleteS2 Angelus/Spike/Dru were the coolest though, I loved their dynamic and I loved how Spike sold them out for his own gain.
Finally S3 with Faith/Mayor because they had an interesting relationship and Slayer vs Slayer is always fun.
Does it get any better ? I'm in the middle of season 4 since september because now i think the show got boring.
ReplyDeleteWell, if you don´t like the show why keep watching. Maybe it´s just not your cup of tea.
ReplyDeleteS4 picks up towards to end and has one of the weirdest brilliant season finales, S5 is my personal favourite. S6 and S7 are both mixed though I still found a lot to love.
ReplyDeleteI liked the first three flavours, but i don't like the fourth one. It makes me sleepy. And i was wondering if the rest of the flavours are better than this one. :-)
ReplyDeleteI Am Not Sure But I Loved How Buffy Trained The Other Slayers For The Big Fight In Season 7.
ReplyDeleteSo you're saying that s4 is the weakest of the last four but you loved the ending ? This might make me resume watching it. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThe first definitely for me. Season 7 was by far the best of the show, followed by Season 3 with the mayor/Faith.
ReplyDeleteSeason 4 does drag but I agree with Lou. It has a fairly good ending and sets up the end of the series nicely.
ReplyDeleteVery tough question. Each of the big bads was the major storyline of the season so it's pretty close to asking "which season was the best." Gotta go with a tie between 3 and 5.
ReplyDeleteDark Willow without any hesitation, she was the best Big bad ever.
ReplyDeleteAll of them scary, but I picked Glory.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to decide :/ the whole season 5 was amazing and so Glory was one of the best villains in "Buffy". Also season 6 with Dark Willow and season 7 with the First.
ReplyDeleteI don't what to chose, honestly.
It's difficult choosing between Season 2's Spike/Dru/Angelus and Season 5's Gloria so i'm gonna call it a tie. Then follows Season 3's Faith/Mayor, since Faith was one of my favourite secondary characters in the Buffyverse..
ReplyDeleteThe Initiative in Season 4 was not the coolest, but it was the scariest ... scary in the sense that it almost ruined my interest in the show. Season 5 and Glory brought that back, though.
ReplyDeleteAngelus was so sexy, and Spike and Dru were terrific!
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I didn't like season 4 but loved season 5. push through it
ReplyDeleteLike most people, I liked Seasons 2-3 the best, and I also think they had the best Big Bads.
ReplyDeleteAngelus was so cruel and twisted, and his literally intimate knowledge of Buffy enabled him to get inside her head in a way no other villain could. The way he killed Jenny and then screwed with Giles, OMG. Spike was also cool in S2, when he was an actual baddie. Dru I never liked, though, she was too crazy and weird.
Faith is possibly my favorite character in the entire Buffyverse, she was so cool, fun and badass and yet incredibly messed up and full of darkness. She's perhaps the only character on TV I've ever seen get a convincing redemption arc (but that's when she went to AtS later, so never mind). The Mayor was an incredibly endearing character, with his witty remarks and blase attitude about everything (after Buffy steals the Box of Gavrok: "I've just had this conference room redecorated! With taxpayers' ,money, no less!". Snerk). The father/daughter dynamic between them was really interesting and helped make the Mayor more than just a cliche bad guy (as well as explain why Faith would continue to side with him and betray the Scoobs, of course).
Lol @ the Initiative. Yeah, that was a major writing fail. They could've easily given that organization an ambiguous nature, since its goal was to hunt down and incapacitate supernatural fiends, even if its methods were militant and ruthless. Instead, they made it full on eeeeevil. I facepalmed when Dr. Walsh was calmly sipping her coffee while watching the demons she sent try to kill Buffy. Gah.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Stuart. Didn't like Season 4 either (or at least not all parts of it), but S5 and everything else is amazing. Continue watching, especially in S5 there are some of the best episodes TV-history has ever seen.
ReplyDeleteThats a though one ;)
ReplyDeleteThe coolest were for me Angelus/Drusilla/Spike, but I really loved the First/Caleb, Glory and the Mayor/Faith too. Especially the ending of season 3 was one of my favourite season finales.
Dark Willow was cool too, but I didn't like the Trio very much.
I am off now to rewatch Buffy ;)
Had to go with Glory.
ReplyDeleteSeason four was the weakest of them all, mostly because of actors leaving mid-season and forcing them to change their plans (Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse.)
ReplyDeleteIt had many great stand alone episodes though such as Hush that I love, but I personally also found the season-finale of this season to be the weakest season-finale of all.
S2, Angelus was wicked. S3, I still love the mayor, and S7 had the strongest big bads imo.
ReplyDeleteEveryone else nailed this. Season 4 by far has the weakest season-long arc, but it also is when the show begins to produce excellent stand-alone episodes like Hush. It really is a transition season. Season 5 is one of my favorites while Seasons 6 and 7 have their pros/cons but are great nonetheless (and better than S4 by a long shot)
ReplyDeleteSeason 2, DEFINITELY. Angel was the worst villain, because he had such a personal connection to Buffy, and he didn't just want to kill her, he wanted to hurt her. And he enjoyed it. And the chemistry between Angel, Spike and Drusilla was amazing.
ReplyDeleteThe heyday of Buffy for me is seasons 2 and 3. After that it was downhill. Season 6 was the worst with season 4 as second worst. Unlike others here I was not a fan of season 5, Glory, or Dawn but 5 was miles better than seasons 4 and 6.
ReplyDeleteI mostly agree. I think Buffy is a show that's greater than the sum of its parts. Ultimately, only Seasons 2-3 and a handful of episodes from other seasons (Prophecy Girl, Hush, The Body, Once More WIth Feeling, etc) are really great, and there are a lot of clunkers. However, when Buffy got it right, it got it INCREDIBLY right. It was a deep, sad, and yet heartfelt tale of growing up and facing the realities of a harsh world, especially when you have the responsibility to save it - and all you want is to be a normal, unburdened teen.
ReplyDeleteMy problem with Glory is that I just felt she was [i]dumb[/i]. It took her nearly the entire season to find the Key, when she knew as early as "Checkpoint" that she could get the information from Buffy. Why not just torture it out of her? Granted, Buffy wouldn't have broken easily since she was protecting her sister, but Glory didn't know that (and hell, everyone breaks eventually). This is also why I felt the plot of Season 5 moved very slowly and had little meat on its bones. It was just a series of encounters with Glory until she FINALLY figured out who the Key was.
ReplyDeleteI think this is a problematic element that comes up whenever villains are made too powerful, like the near-invincible Glory. To create a drawn-out arc and eventually have the heroes defeat them, the villains have to act like morons and not go about their plans in the easiest, most obvious way.
Going to have to disagree. I loved seasons 5-7. They weren't as good as seasons 2-3, but they were still better than most tv shows out there.
ReplyDeleteI wish they revealed their original plan. Dr. Walsh was supposed to recur during the entire season, but Lindsay Crouse decided to leave and they had to kill Walsh off and introduce Adam instead. I think the entire Initiative storyline would've been done differently had she stayed and had they been able to continue to stick to their original plan, whatever it may be.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see Glory as stupid but as self-involved. She just didn't care for anyone but herself and saw everyone as nothing but her little minions, and that was why I thought she failed to notice all those clues lying right in front of her.
ReplyDeleteShe still was a powerful villain because Buffy couldn't outmatch her, but not as effective as S2\3\7 imo.
I loved S6. It was so different than the others. I loved than Xander saved the day.
ReplyDeleteThat´s sad because I liked season 5. Yeah, Dawn was a little weird in the beginning, but I grew quickly warm with her. I like season 4 because of the freshmen college experience, but I agree 100% that season six was like a wicked mirror image of a show I loved for so long.
ReplyDeleteAh, get it. Yeah if you don´t like the college part or the initiative part, it´s not going to be that prominent in later seasons, but in season 4 many character development seeds are sown that blossom in later seasons.
ReplyDeleteI guess it just drives me crazy when villains are so powerful that they could win easily, but don't do the obvious things because then the show would be over.
ReplyDeleteAnother example would be Klaus on TVD. In Season 3, Damon and Stefan are hiding the coffins that Klaus put his siblings in, and Klaus wants them back. For reasons beyond my comprehension, they manage to play him for a loooooong time. Now, he's an all-powerful hybrid who has been around for a millenia, they're two 160+ year old vamps. The show kept saying he couldn't compel them to reveal the location of the coffins because they were taking vervain regularly, and couldn't kill them because then he'd never find the coffins. So like Glory, he did nothing, when he could have simply captured Damon or Stefan and either tortured the information out of them or wait until the vervain's out of their system and compel them to spill it.
It's impossible to buy the storyline when the good guys winning (or even staying alive) depends on the villain not doing what anyone with a lick of common sense would do in their position.
I think having a very Dark Willow was very frightening.
ReplyDeleteThat season was all about vulnerability and humanity.
ReplyDeleteHow is the Master ranked UNDER season 6 where the big bad was "life"? Puhlease. In my mind it's Angelus (because hello taking on the love of her life was hard and who could forget that epic season final), Mayor/Faith, the Master, Glory, the Initiative, the Trio/"LIFE" (because honestly who goes from fighting a god to fighting three nerds. They weren't even full episode villains. They were like opening scene villains)!
ReplyDeleteSeason 4 and season 5 are considered the worst/least favorite seasons among all the fans. Seasons 3 and 5 are considered the best. Stick out til season 5. You'll start the season think WTF b/c the writers give you a big mindf*ck, but trust me, it all starts to make sense and it ends of being one of the best seasons of the series.
ReplyDeleteI respectfully disagree everything you said.
ReplyDeleteWow I really can't believe the First/Caleb have more votes than Dark Willow! It must be the fact that the poll creator considered "the Trio" to be an actual Big Bad of season six that is skewing the ratings :\ Anyhoo, my votes went for 2, 5, and 6. The Mayor and Faith were really awesome too, but I could pick 3 sooo *shrugs*.
ReplyDeleteAngelus wins because of the episode Passions alone. The whole Giles finding Jenny's body is just... by far one of the best evil things done on the show.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget that she had to share a body with Ben. For a while he was able to work a normal job, which meant that she could only come out at times. He was mostly in control of his body until it got closer to the ritual. That's part of why her progress was slowed.
ReplyDeleteThe first three seasons were the best of "Buffy." (Yes, I really enjoyed Season 1. Getting to know the characters was a real hoot.) Angelus was the best Big Bad, for the way he (figuratively) tore out Buffy's heart. The only episode of the show I actually DISLIKED was the finale. Hated it for many reasons, primary of which was the way they casually killed Anya -- one of my favorite characters -- and nobody...not even Xander...seemed to even notice. The only episode I've never rewatched.
ReplyDeleteI was torn between season 2 and season 5 but ultimately had to go with season 2! Angel is Buffy's true love and it was interesting to see how things changed literally overnight when he became Angelus. Love the dynamics between them!
ReplyDeleteLet's not ever compare Buffy to TVD lol. Glory was kind of dumb, I think that was the whole point - she was like Cordelia as Buffy once said. Even though Glory was powerful physically, she relied on her minions most of the time because she felt she was too good to find out things for herself because she was a God. When she actually starts doing things for herself is when she finds out stuff.
ReplyDeleteSeason 4 starts out okay but gets a little boring when the Riley stuff builds up lol. S5 is a lot better. Seasons 1, 2 and 3 are my favourites though. Big Bangel fan :3
ReplyDeleteThe season 4 finale was weird but kind of brilliant. It foreshadows a hell of a lot of things
ReplyDeleteThanks for your replies, guys. I'll try to finish s4 even if i may fastforwarding through the episodes.
ReplyDeleteSeason 5 over all to me is one the best seasons of Buffy and Glory had a whole lot to do with it.
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