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Supernatural 9.09 "Holy Terror" Review: The Truth Hurts

4 Dec 2013

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     This week’s episode of Supernatural, “Holy Terror,” was written by Eugenie Ross-Leming and Brad Buckner and directed by Thomas J Wright. This writing team is not my favorite on the show and there is one major canon fudge that is already garnering criticism from fans, but this was a reasonably solid episode. Wright delivers a reasonably well-paced episode and some terrific performances, but he’s working on getting a reputation for killing off our favorite characters! RIP Kevin Tran.

    My first thoughts on the episode have to be for Osric Chau. I am extremely disappointed to see this talented actor apparently killed off – I live in hope. This is Supernatural after all. He could come back, right? I would even welcome an evil twin. Chau has grown as an actor in the role, and it was wonderful to get to see Kevin evolve over the course of three seasons. We saw him go from being advanced placement, uptight and naive Kevin, to a suitable rival for Crowley – even escaping his clutches, to despairing, to accepting of his role and one of the boys. Chau has become a fan favorite at conventions and through his engaging with fans via social media, whether live tweeting or holding skype chats. Kevin will be missed, but something tells me, Chau will always be accompanied by the fandom. Tran’s thoughts can be found here.

    This episode delivers a lot of payoff on the mytharc of the season so far. We finally get to see what’s going on with the angels, and Dean (Jensen Ackles) finally has to confess to Sam  (Jared Padalecki) about what he did in the first episode. This episode also sees Cas (Misha Collins) get his angelic powers back after a fashion.

    The episode begins with a classic teaser as the Melody Ministry Glee Club all-women choir takes on a group of bikers at the Round ‘em Up Bar. We then join Dean and Zeke in conversation in the Impala. Zeke is once again trying to avoid any contact with angels. Padalecki does a great job creating whiplash for both Dean and the audience as he zips between Zeke and Sam. Finally, we see Sam starting to get suspicious. Dean’s lies really do come back to bite him in this episode.

    Misha Collins is fantastic in this episode as Cas uses the badge Dean gave him and meets them undercover at the scene. Watching Cas share a beer and buy a round with his friends is hilarious as was watching him try to pray. It was great watching him throw Dean’s words back at him again, proving again how much stock he places in Dean’s opinion. He tells him “You don’t choose what you do, it chooses you.” I loved watching Cas embrace his humanity and overcome his fear of mortality in the episode, proving he is also a hero. Cas is determined to help stop the angels now that their violence is escalating. Sam is happy to see Cas, but Dean has to worry about Zeke’s inevitable displeasure. Of course, this episode finally reveals why “Zeke” has been avoiding Cas. Because Cas would have realized he wasn’t Zeke but Gadreel.

    We see the return of Metatron (Curtis Armstrong) who is now finding his solitude tedious – which was only to be expected. Armstrong is, perhaps, a little over the top in his delivery, but the incongruity between how he looks and acts and his actions and plan to rule as “X” are creepy. Apparently, when Metatron threw the angels out of Heaven he also released those imprisoned like Gadreel. Interesting that Gadreel’s crime was letting evil into the Garden of Eden. I wonder how that may affect his interactions with Crowley (Mark Sheppard). It also makes him an interesting second for the evil that is now running Heaven.

    We also learn in this episode of the other faction fighting for supremacy among the angels. Malachi’s (Stephen Monroe Taylor) forces are opposing those of Bartholomew (Adam Harrington), and neither seems like a very angelic choice. Cas identifies Malachi as the anarchist. Muriel (Britt Irvin) seems like clear evidence that there are angels that don’t want any part of either faction. Both Muriel and Cas realize that Heaven under either Malachi or Bartholomew would be Hell.

    Cas insists that he was an unwitting accomplice to Metatron’s plan. Even though he is horribly tortured, it’s clear that Cas would never give up any information, including Sam and Dean. Of course, Malachi doesn’t exactly make good use of Muriel as a pawn as he simply goes ahead and kills her, thereby giving up his leverage. Taylor is great as Malachi and so is Sage Brocklebank asTheo. Loved him suddenly wanting to get away from Malachi who he sees is crazy. It was nice to see that Cas has finally learned a little something about self preservation and doesn’t trust Theo. However, the fact that Cas could get his grace back by taking someone else’s seems like a complete re-write of what a grace is. Theo’s eyes are burnt out which seems (according to this episode) to indicate that the victim was human, so that should mean that Cas is carrying around Theo.

    Cas informs Dean that Malachi is the other angel to watch for. He also tells Dean he got his grace back – but he qualifies it. He’s really not sure what he’s done, but he knows he needs to be ready to fight. He also sends Dean into a panic by telling him that Ezekiel died in the fall from Heaven. Dean immediately goes to Kevin for a spell to get whoever is squatting in Sam out. Of course, Kevin has already sensed that something is wrong – with Sam and with Dean. Instead of telling Kevin everything, which might have saved his life, Dean continues to tell half truths. I did love Dean calling Kevin Cinderella though.

    Metatron does a masterful job of deceiving Gadreel. This is really the first episode that we’ve gotten more than just a glimpse at the angel in Sam, and an interesting portrait emerges. Gadreel is obviously very naive, and he’s been locked away since evil entered the Garden so he would have had no contact with humans. Therefore, other than his contact with Sam and Dean, he has no knowledge of humans. He’s had no opportunity to develop any empathy for them as Cas has. He also has to blame them at least somewhat for his own fall from grace. But he does seem to have an overactive sense of guilt and a lack of self-worth, so these may be ways for him to be convinced to bring back Sam at the least and possibly turn on Metatron.

    The final confrontation begins with Dean asking Kevin to trust him. Kevin points out that that always ends badly – and in this case, truer words were never spoken. Dean tries to come clean to Sam. He admits that he did what he did because he was messed up because he was facing Sam dying. Gadreel does do a good job in faking Sam, but I knew something was up the minute Sam didn’t immediately expel the angel inside him.

    Gadreel’s lack of understanding is driven home in the last scene – which Ackles knocks out of the park. Kevin is worried about Dean – making Dean’s role in his death even more tragic. Gadreel assures Kevin that Dean will be fine, but it’s clear that Dean is devastated by Kevin’s death and Dean’s guilt over it will, no doubt, take a toll on him. However, I expect we will see little of that as we move into the second half of the season which is always Sam-focused. Gadreel is also ignoring what Dean went through in an attempt to save his brother in the first place. He has clearly gained no understanding of the bond between these two brothers. One final word about Dean’s calling to Kevin. According to live tweets last night from Padalecki and Ackles, Osric Chau was not even present when those final shots were filmed. Kudos to Ackles for embodying the character so completely that he is able to portray that pain so well.

    One other hopeful thing did come out of the episode. Kevin tells Dean that the part surrounding the spell to close the gates to Heaven is written “like Metatron wanted to keep his words hidden – even from prophets.” I think this is a pretty obvious clue that there is a way to reverse the spell and that’s exactly what Metatron is trying to hide. No doubt, that is also why Gadreel takes the angel tablets with him.

    What did you think of the episode? Was it worthy of a fall finale? Is hellatus going to be particularly hard to bear or will the next six weeks provide time to mourn the loss of Kevin? Do you think Kevin will stay dead? Let me know your thoughts and feels in the comments below! In particular, let me know what you will miss the most about Kevin Tran or your favorite Kevin/Osric memory.

79 comments:

  1. I was very impressed by the repeated statements "I did what I had to do", when a character performs a questionable act. This seems to me to be the theme of the episode.

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  2. Actually the next few episodes are Dean centric according to Jensen, all through to and including episode 12 are about Dean going Dark because of everything that has happened and everything that he has caused. Not only that but Jared said he spoke to the writers about the lack of Sam in the season's narrative this season, so no the second half of the season will not be more Sam focused.


    The only thing we do know is that Sam will go back to being suicidal which honestly I cant blame him for, his body is basically dead, he can never escape his past, he cant have relationships, he will never feel normal or 'pure' so when Sam says he's ready to end it all this time I'm going to be ok with it. This season has shown that there are enough Dean and Cas fans watching that Sam can be written out any way. And lets face it if Sam doesnt thank Dean for tricking him into being possessed to he can stay alive then most people will just label Sam as ungrateful and selfish, so I hope the writers dont allow Sam to be saved. I'd much prefer Jared to have something to do by playing an angel be it good or bad.

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  3. I honestly cannot see that happening. If Sam dies, they'll save it for the series ending.

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  4. I loved last night's episode. I don't particularly like this writing duo but I thought last night's episode was pretty solid. I knew something was up with Zeke but couldn't put my finger on exactly what and, therefore, was surprised (and impressed) with the big reveal. I'm impressed with who "Zeke" really turned out to be. It's quite an intriguing twist. I'm pretty sure I gasped when Gadreel said "There is no more Sam." Jared did an incredible job portraying Zeke/Gadreel and Sam. Jensen, of course, hit it to the moon, especially at the end of the episode.



    Oddly enough, I was never a huge fan of Kevin Tran and yet last night I cried when he was killed.

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  5. Caroline Rosenblum4 December 2013 at 21:01

    I really don't think Sam is going to die...he's the one of the MAIN CHARACTERS. If he dies, it won't be permanent. I don't want him written out. His endgame still needs to happen - him becoming a scholarly hunter, who works from the bunker and doesn't go out into the field to hunt, and has a family.

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  6. I don't really know what to make of what they are doing with Sam. While the angel stuff is cool, I don't like it enough to enjoy them flat out squashing his character like he's not important or people don't care about him. I don't think it will be permanent I can't imagine them doing that. That's jumping the shark and frankly spitting over everything the actor has done for the character even if he gets to do something cool and new. But I don't think Jared would let them do that to him anyway. Sam will come back. I think they will lose viewers and SERIOUSLY piss people off it they don't.


    Also was I the only one a little put off that the author praised Jensen and Misha's acting but said nothing about Jared's? I guess some people can't hide their favoritism.

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  7. They are never going to write Sam out of the show.

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  8. "Padalecki does a great job creating whiplash for both Dean and the audience as he zips between Zeke and Sam."
    Apparently you missed this part of the article.

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  9. I thought it was a great reveal and a nice twist to the story. This is such a heavy mytharc episode, I'm sure that the broadstrokes of it were hashed out by Carver. I think Jared is having a blast playing with the angels - I really liked that when we got to see more of Gadreel, we really got to see more of his character.

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  10. The show is about the brothers Dean and Sam, I rather have it with them then Cas and Dean. For starters it wasn't Sam who was talking to Dean, it was Gadreel who was pretending to be Sam. He even said it himself that Sam no longer around, Dean will never give up on saving his brother. In the end it will be the brothers against the Angels, Cas will be with them but it will be mostly the brothers. I prefer Jared playing Sam who's fight alone side his brother, it will end up that way Dean will save his brother.

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  11. His end game could be dying and finally having peace, being a MOL researching in the bunker is what he does now and finds no actual real joy or solace in it and he will never have a family in fact I will be shocked if he ever has another love interest. Sam wont be getting a happy ending unless his happy ending is more hunting with Dean and really thats just sad and not something we've ever known Sam to have wanted. Dying and finding peace is the way to go. Sam's story is basically done that much is clear to me, its why the writers have trouble writing for him the only reason they keep him around is because of Jared's contract. On any other show he would have been written out a while back.

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  12. Ugh I'm sorry. I read this briefly on lunch break. My apologies.

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  13. I dont think it will happen but it should happen from a creative POV and from a character POV, they cpuld still keep Jared on as someone else but Sam has been a plot device for a while now and really that could be achieved through any other character.

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  14. Jared and Jensen have a contract for a tenth season, Misha doesn't have one. So I can see Sam staying around for long time, take Sam/Jared out the show will end. Sam is not done for the show like everyone thinks, yes Jared did ask but they do need to focus on the Angel. Dean is going to want revenge for what happen to Sam and Kevin, so I can see why he will go dark side cause of it. He'll need to Angel to do it.

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  15. Achieved through any other character? But what would then happen to Dean's character? A big chunk of him would be gone since his whole life has in a way revolved around Sam. So losing Sam would mean part of Dean would be dead not to mention it would change the whole heart of the show.

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  16. I like this season so far, not my favorite but its ok, i like last night episode, dont really kevin fans but still sad to see him die, the writer probably can sent him out from the bunker and have his own life and sometime help the boys, that will be cool, he suffer so much and ending so tragic
    But im done spn till this season, if they gonna make anoher season i will not watching again, lack of sam from season to season is devastated me, 9 season is enough for me
    i love so much this show, but i also feel sad everytime, so i think im checking out :\

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  17. surroundedbybloodyidiots4 December 2013 at 23:49

    Dean 'dying' would definitely explain his change in character in 'The End' when 2009!Dean was transported to 2014. Maybe this is how we get there. Because remember 'whatever choices you make, whatever details you alter, we will always end up here.'

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  18. People keep forgetting. A grace is just power, not the person. Otherwise, Castiel wouldn't be Castiel when Metatron took his. It's not stealing a soul, it's stealing power.

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  19. So its OK for Dean to want revenge or be motivated by revenge but not OK for anyone else (John, Sam, others).

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  20. Good review. Not a bad episode. As for fave Kevin moments, I still love him being in "advanced placement"--so, all the way back to the beginning for that one.

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  21. No worries. I know people feel passionately about their favorite character, but I do try to make sure every review is balanced and objective.

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  22. That is a terrific point! And Anna was still Anna without her grace - even though she forgot herself for a time! So it IS canon! I wonder though if each grace has the same amount of power? Will Cas be stronger or weaker?

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  23. I think it was him grabbing the tablet and rabbiting away from Sam for me! Or Dean calling him Katniss... actually i can think of a bunch!

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  24. I think weaker and it's only temporary. Like he has become a literal vampire of angels. Once he uses it up, it's gone, thats why there were so many dead angels on the ground when he left. It gave me the impression he stole each of their graces and then wiped them out, but again I think it's only like a battery that will drain when used. So he will need to keep "feeding". That's my theory anyways.

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  25. I agree with tvmonkey! Sam's "end game" is most likely DEATH. They've set up Sam dying in the series finale since the beginning of the season!

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  26. Can't Dean just pray to Cass and ask him to bring Kevin back? Sorry, I'm not really deep in the mythology/canon so I don't know if it will work or not. Help a sister out!

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  27. Back In Black Tricksteress 955 December 2013 at 03:02

    Nice review.
    Oh that was terrible what 'Zeke' did. For now I'm just gonna call him Zeke.
    I knew Zeke was cowardly and twisted but I didn't expect him to kill Kevin. I thought he would turn taking Sam to fight with Metraton. All the Metraton stuff, predicted but Kevin didn't deserve that!.
    I knew Sam was fighting to get Zeke out but for now Sam is not strong enough. Sam had a similar path of possession and if he can fight Lucifer he can get that pesky angel out (and hopefully dead) despite his sickness. Looks like Sam will have a 'helping hand' from Crowley.
    I have not heard about another appearance of Kevin, I hope so but I don't know...
    Yes Zeke had not grasp the humanity of things but that didn't give him a right to do what he did. Cas was in the same position but he tried to do the right thing, even though things didn't always work out well. By the way it was great seeing Cas again. Looks like Cas going to haveto be careful of that grace and hopefully he will be very powered up through the rest of the season.
    Dean had fought to tell Sam and I hope he will still stay strong through the disaster. I think Dean will have good judgements of letting Crowley out because he will not let his guard down.
    It was a awesome, sad but exciting episode and unfortunately I'll haveto wait 'forever' for the next ep lol but I'll haveto be patient :)

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  28. You did a good job. Lisa :).

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  29. That's a good theory. Taking another angel's grace has to have some type of repercussions; even Cas had to be somewhat evasive because he didn't time to get into the "How" fully - telling Dean that Ezekiel was dead had to take precedence - so Ezekiel couldn't have been the angel who 'helped' Sam.

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  30. That would be a good plan - but I wonder if Cas has enough mojo to do it.

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  31. It's definitely going to be a very long hellatus! I was completely not expecting to lose Kevin - but it is a brilliant plan on Metatron's part. Even if there is a new prophet, look how long it took Kevin to get up to speed on the tablets - and now they don't even have the tablets any more.

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  32. Back In Black Tricksteress 955 December 2013 at 05:08

    Yes agree. And when Sam gets back to normal he's going to feel really guilty.
    Hey there wouldn't be a chance in a world that's Chuck alive?.
    These storyline developments are a mixture of sad, creative and awesome..and then there is the hellatus! :)

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  33. Why would you want Chuck to be alive?

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  34. Sadly, the fact that Kevin was the prophet means that the former prophet has to be dead - or just gone... So I don't think there's any chance we'll get Chuck back - at least not as a prophet! Though I would LOVE to have Rob Benedict back on the show!! Sam really shouldn't feel guilty - none of this is his fault. But I'm sure you're right that he will feel guilty.

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  35. Back In Black Tricksteress 955 December 2013 at 05:37

    And I take you don't want him? I like Chuck and its a mysterious case of Chuck.

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  36. Except Ruby told Sam he did not need the blood, the power was in him all along.

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  37. Please leave Kevin dead, this coming back is getting very OLD.

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  38. I don't think prophets are like Buffy, can't there be more than one prophet at a time? I know when one dies another takes the place, but only one at a time? I would love Chuck back.
    Hopefully the guys took pictures of the tablets, but a prophet will be going after the real things, I think.

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  39. I would blame the writers for Kevin's death, instead of the director. Doesn't he just direct what is written? Other than that little nit-pic another super review.


    I had been saying Zeke was not to be trusted and WOW I just did not see that Gadreel twist coming, but this is going to make the rest of the season very interesting.


    I loved the ep and this makes only one ep, the Charlie one, that I have not cared for this year. BIG IMPROVEMENT over last year. lol

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  40. Dean and 'revenge' don't belong in one sentence, he's never been motivated by it, even for his family. For him it's 'protecting', at any costs.

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  41. Nice review :)


    I like those writers' works. But director could do better.
    This episode was good, What happened to Kevin was tragic, but it really wasn't unexpected. This show has just 2 constants, 3 with Cas, others are bound to say goodby one day. Also unepic and/or seemingly pointless deaths just for the sake of drama are far too many, the most prominent Ellen & Jo's. So I'm kind of used to it now!


    What bothers me in this plot-line is 'Oh! so angels could tell lie about their identity!!! Why didn't I think about it sooner?!!' This is ridiculous. We've had 5 seasons with angels, and it always seemed like their name is like an ID to them, sth they can't hide or lie about, and now this.... Well, a stupid plot twist, IMO. I know he tried to stay away from other angels for a reason, but still.


    Those tablets, I'm glad they mentioned it somehow. I was always skeptical if they could find anything useful in them; after all, the big conspirator was the one who wrote them. His spell recipe for throwing out the angles and, surprise, no returning it back was too suspicious. I Really couldn't understand why they were still working on them, or why they didn't think those tablets couldn't threaten Metatron's plans, otherwise he would kill Kevin beforehand. Now seems there's more to them that even a prophet can't decipher. But why did he kill Kevin now?!! OH! for the drama sake, unless they find another prophet soon.

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  42. The way I see it is that Sam is the most important thing in Dean's life and always has been so Sam cannot be replaced by "any other character". It's just not possible given their history, how they have grown up together.

    Yeah, maybe for once it wouldn't have to be Sam who has something wrong with him but killing him off would definitely mean that the show wouldn't be Supernatural anymore. The relationship between Sam and Dean is a resource not a hindrance because they can basically be written to go however far for each other and it's still believable.

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  43. Dean can get revenge for Sam without him being around, Sam would not be required to be present at all.

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  44. Actually, I feel the same way about killing people - it's now gotten old. I really, really liked Kevin (I was happy to see Mrs Tran go), and yet, I wasn't nearly as impacted by his death as I might have been. Now, I just don't get attached to characters at all - we know they will all die eventually.

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  45. It's an interesting theory, but I'm not seeing any evidence for it. I think it much more likely that he only needs the one grace. I think it is possible that it matters that it's not his own though.

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  46. Of course, they did bring Abaddon back from a charred husk...
    I agree though - what about the reapers? I like the thought that Kevin may have been kidnapped by them - now that we know there are rogue reapers and reapers for hire - we might as well continue down that story path. And it might get us another appearance from Death this season! He may have to step in to put his house back in order!

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  47. No. They made that very clear when Crowley kidnapped all the future prophets. Only one - Kevin - could read the tablets. I feel bad already for the poor prophet who has to try to get the tablets back!

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  48. I'm really wondering if they are going to bring back one of the prophets Crowley kidnapped before...

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  49. Obviously the director directs what was written - that wasn't my point - it was meant to be a joke.

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  50. I agree. They've gone to the dramatic death well once too often. It has lost its impact for me as well. Don't forget though that Gabriel kept his identity a secret, so there is history to support that.
    The tablets have bothered me for a long time. If a prophet can read them, then READ them already! Why does it take SO long to read anything??? And if they could find answers to translate them in books in the bunker then why couldn't anyone translate them??

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  51. Sorry, my bad. ;)

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  52. Good point, Gabriel. I'd completely forgotten about him. But the feel in his case and now is different; He was so powerful he could mask his true nature, people were kinda lost about what he was and how they could counter him. Nobody trusted him 'cause they didn't know him. The case here is too cheap, like how humans can use fake IDs. Dean could have avoided all this mess by confirming his identity with Cas. The fact he, and clearly us, didn't feel it was necessary reflects our background knowledge about the show and its angle lore. There's always a start point for everything but like I said, it was cheap.

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  53. I agree with you, Sam's story could have ended a long time ago. And yes, the writers really don't know what to do with him, I think that's why they dragged his hell trauma for two season and put him through trials to keep him busy. But I don't think it's about contract or keeping Jared around. The fanbase of this show is a part of the audience that care about their favorite actors, the majority of people are interested in the brotherly interaction, and eliminating one of them could be a fatal blow to the show.

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  54. He could die in the series finale, but they're definitely not going to write him out of the show and continue without him. If he's going to die it's going to happen (permanently) in the last episode of the entire series. It wouldn't make any sense to kill him off and then continue.

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  55. Yes, and when they remain alive, I'd be pleasantly surprised ;)

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  56. Um...I'm not sure if you're talking to me, I didn't say they should cut off Sam, I said people are interested in brothers, and me too. And it's nothing to do with contracts, whatever condition they have.

    I meant to refer the way writers are handling the show, lack of screen time for Sam shows they really can't write about him, they just throw big plot-line to him, so he'd have sth to work on, and Dean to do all the other stuff. This way they're doing poor job for both of them. Still, I prefer to have both in the show rather than killing Sam off.

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  57. .No hon I'm not talking about you at all, I see where you are coming from with the writers. Sorry if I made you think that way that I was, wasn't paying attention when I hit the reply button. Thought I was making my own message not from yours.

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  58. Thanks. I'll very much miss your comments. I hope that you will reconsider and consider just not reading the comments. I know how you feel. I stopped going on forums for much the same reason. It's one thing to have a favorite character but that doesn't mean you have to hate on anyone else. And I also agree - at the end of the day, this is the writers' show and it will always be about Sam and Dean. Everyone has always indicated that they will go out together in a blaze of Butch and Sundance/Thelma and Louise... But that doesn't mean I hate on Destiel either (and I don't think that is your point either) ;)

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  59. It's OK, I figured you'd probably hit the wrong button.
    But I assure you, people saying it's better for Sam to die aren't Sam haters, they're just upset with how things are rolling.

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  60. Back In Black Tricksteress 955 December 2013 at 22:42

    Its possible but I don't see that for some reason. But if there were to be another prophet it may start from stratch. We need Kevin back.

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  61. Back In Black Tricksteress 955 December 2013 at 22:44

    I want to see Death again, maybe it could be in regards to getting 'Zeke' out if all else fails?. Anything possible with those reapers, Kevin may be dead-alive or gone to the light.

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  62. Oh, I agree. I doubt the writers would kill off Sam before the series ends!

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  63. I agree with your comments on the writers being the problem, not the characters. If they could set up a storyline for Sam and stick to it, that'd be a great start to making him an actual person. Then have Dean be involved with it because it's actually a good idea he agrees with, not because he feels Sam'll screw it up or it's a poor choice and goes along to clean up the inevitable mess Sam makes of it. They really don't do much in the way of giving Dean a storyline, either. They get him involved with Sam's screw ups or Castiel's poorly written problems, whatever they are any given season, so he's just a tool. In more ways than one.

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  64. Is that timeline even still in play anymore? I thought they'd dealt with the apocalypse at the end of season five. In my interpretation, anything Dean saw in that future would've been averted, creating a new timeline based on the defeat of Lucifer and Michael.

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  65. Yep. Any new prophet is going to start right where Kevin did - and look how long it took him to decipher anything!

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  66. I honestly don't care why they get Death back, as long as they get him! LOL! I just adore Julian Richings!

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  67. He cant have "gone to the light" since there is no heaven, there is no light. He probably is wandering around somewhere as a spirit, probably gonna come back as a ghost or something.

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  68. Back In Black Tricksteress 957 December 2013 at 13:08

    Well hello first of all.
    There is still a heaven, Metraton expelled the angels out. If there was no heaven why isn't all spirits that was once human down here just like the angels?. Also in supernatural theory there is a heaven created by memories, so that's where Kevin could be. I can't get technical with how the heaven is because its complicated, but there is definately a kind of heaven at least for humans.

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  69. Back In Black Tricksteress 957 December 2013 at 13:09

    Awesome regardless of what :)

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  70. In addition to Back In Black's answer, Metatron also told Cas he'd be looking forward to him dying (as a human) and coming back to Heaven and telling him his story - so presumably humans are still getting in...

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  71. Well, actually, there IS still heaven, and all we've been told about it being locked is that it's locked to the angels. Has there been any reference to what this change means for the disposition of the souls of dead humans? There was nothing that I can recall about human souls falling back to Earth.... I find myself wondering if the plot will end up requiring Sam and/or Dean to die in order to get into heaven, to help defeat Metatron from the inside--and that'd create the opportunity for seeing all kinds of folk again: Bobby, Ashe, Pamela, Ellen, etc.

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  72. Me too. his firat appearance ad Death remains one of my all-time fave SPN moments, and every time he's guested, he's been awesome.

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  73. Haha @"the writers must've realized they can't write for Castiel."
    Ain't that the truth? They cannot write for him at all!

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  74. The writers have only gotten worse since Kripke left.

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  75. Add me to the Death(Julian Richings) fan club. That scene was perfect, music, actor & acting. He was made all the scenes he has been in, even out doing Cas and love his fetish for junk food. ;)

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  76. I wondered if Kripke would come back if Revolution was cancelled, but that show is getting much better, so am torn. lol For me this season is so much better than last, or else last season was so bad, it makes this one look good, what ever reason I am loving this year. ;)

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  77. If they didn't take pictures of those tablets, I've lost any hope of the writers of this series getting their heads out of their asses. That's just common sense stuff. Esp. when it comes to something as huge as an ANGEL TABLET.

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