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It is a modernisation of the Count of Monte Cristo so it should end in a similar way. She should complete her revenge but almost ends up killing everyone she cares for in the process. She realises that she is too broken ever to have a happy ending so Emily and Nolan should disappear never to be seen again. It needs to end in a bittersweet fashion, not happily ever after.
I'm thinking of something similar - it's funny that I didn't an option like that in the poll, heh. But now it occurs to me that it's probably the most fitting ending. She gets her revenge but then realizes that it doesn't bring her "closure" or make her happy, even if the Graysons got what they deserved; she's too damaged to go live it up on a beach in the Maldives. And yes, regardless of whether or not she ends up with any of her suitors, Nolan should definitely be by her side in the end. Regardless of blood, he's her true family.
I agree completely. Not just because of the Count of Monte Cristo storyline but also because of the very first quote we see before the beginning of the pilot "Before you embark on a journey or revenge, dig two graves."
Only in the recent movie. The original book ends with a happy ending for Valentine and Max (even if Edmond almost kills her) but is horrific for everyone else. Mercedes goes to live alone, Albert (who is not his son) joins the army and goes overseas, Edmond goes off with his former slave in to the Mediterranean, filled with grief about the damage he has caused (particularly to the Villefort family).
Emily has to succeed, but I don't know if I want her to live happily ever after; I'd be ok with that, but endings need to be bittersweet. It would be really affecting if she died in the process, but it would make sense in the show's logic. The option that makes the most sense to me is the confession one, but then again I would need to see how the writers deal with it. I always imagined the ending of Revenge taking place on the beach; Emily has taken care of her job and let the sea wash her feet as she start tearing up, remembering those she lost in the way, then smiling and saying: "it's over... you can be at ease now dad" then some flashbacks showing us all the sacrifices in the way, then one last shot at the beach and cut to black. The end. I don't know if that's the best ending, but that's the one I came up with
I think she dies with her revenge. It depends on how its done to be honest, but I think the point is that she can no longer live a normal happy life because her life is her revenge .If she is done, then she is probably done as I suspect she will be incapable of living for something else.
thats depressing I like the movie way better and hope revenge ends similar. I want emily to get her revenge/find peace, run off with the love of her life (as long as its not daniel) and live happily ever after
Yeah - even if she doesn't die physically, her life ends when her revenge quest does. She's been hellbent on this for how long? She never had any other goal in her life. Maybe she loves Aiden or Jack, and Nolan in the familial sense, but she can't live for those alone. So when all is said and done, she's going to be dead inside, even if she survives.
That's depressing, lol... but it does make the most sense for the character and the story.
I kind of like this, but I really want to know what happens. We have been there the whole way and I want an ending that is final. Don't want to wonder what happens, show me..she goes off with one of the guys, gets killed or confesses..just show me.
It's understandable. If you love a character you don't want anything bad to happen to them. It's (one of the reasons) why I'm a terrible writer. I feel guilty when I put a character through hell.
first she should succeed in her revenge but then after she should realize just how much shes lost she should end up with noone after the show is called revenge, so there shouldn't be a happily ever after if it was once upon a time then she should end up with jack. it would make more sense that after everything shes lost she commits suicide because she has nothing to live for
Emily is young and was going to give up her vengeance for Jack until faux manda turned up pregnant. She has had a sad and unhappy life ...so how can we wish her a sad ending after watching her over three seasons ...surely we should empathise with her and hope she realises the healing of love with Jack is her salvation ...her true love and wish her a happy ending. I personally would resent the writers giving the story a sad ending...it's been sad enough all round and couldn't care less about the graysons just let them rot in their own greed and misery.
All this talk about endings is making me nervous, is this season supposed to be the last or did I miss something? In any case I hope Emily ends up with Aiden and Nolan, I'm disliking Jack more and more. I loved his couple with the real Emily, they were great together.
This isn't supposed to be the last season, but everything depends on ratings, of course. The show did do better last week, but it needs to remain steady in the numbers to keep out of cancellation danger. It doesn't need to skyrocket, fortunately, since it's still one of ABC's better performers, but some improvement would go a long way towards a renewal.
When you embark on a journey of Revenge dig two graves, I think Emily will die and at the very end and just before the show ends there will be a scene that gives the viewers the ever slight chance that she is in fact alive.
I want Revenge to end with Emily's death, so I can hear Victoria utter the words "She got what she wanted. She's with her father now." I don't know where I heard that line but it would be brilliant on the show. I love Emily, but I think this series is too complex to end happily.
The series can end however the writers want it to. Lets hope they have enough affection for Emily for that as most of us do. Cannot understand why some people think she should die!...give her a break and a good future.
Hm, never said it couldn't. Emily could've ran off with all her money and Jack, but she chose not to. As stated in a quote at the start of the show, Revenge will not end well for either party, and shows that end with everyone just going off and living happy lives don't stick with me for too long.
I know how horrible her life has been, but it doesn't change the fact that she's an anti-heroine who does awful things to achieve her goal. How many have gotten hurt or even killed as a result of her endless manipulations and schemes? Not just the people who betrayed her father, but others like Fauxmanda. Yes, the Graysons are scum and deserve to be punished, but if all Emily wanted was justice for her father, she could've just exposed the truth about the plane crash. She had the evidence on that laptop last season, and for reasons beyond my comprehension, threw it into the ocean. What she wants is vengeance, and when the show's very title refers to that agenda, it couldn't be more clear. Of course I love the character, she's complex, interesting and badass, but also has a vulnerable and touching side, and EVC does a fantastic job portraying her. But when all is said and done, she's still far from a good person. As such, I think a fairytale happy ending where Ems gets everything she wants would be inappropriate. It would mean the writers are oversimplifying things and not owning up to the dark nature of their lead character. I don't want to get into the romance aspect too much, because there's nothing I hate more than shipping wars, but it would be way too cliche and tacky (in my opinion) to go with Emily being healed/redeemed through the love of a good man (Jack). A lot of people like them together and that's okay, but I think it's unrealistic to expect someone as damaged as Emily to move on and be happy in life just because she's with a nice guy like a Jack. Yes, she wanted that in the end of Season 1 when she thought the truth about the Graysons was going to be revealed and her work would be done, but we don't know that they would've actually managed to form a healthy long-term relationship. They're drawn to each other largely because of their childhood memories, but adult Emily is nothing like that little girl Jack once knew.
Emily has to succeed in her quest, but that does not mean that she either lives happily ever after or goes to jail. There are far worse fates than that.
The most perfect ending for her would be that the success at her revenge, essentially costs everyone she cared about. So, even though she achieved what she set out to do, she is doomed to living a lonely dissatisfying life.
A Monte Cristo story CAN'T end happily for the titular count - that ruins the whole idea of the story. He(and in this case she) is a tragic antihero through and through.
I don't know, part of me WANTS the characters I Like to go through horrific things and tragedies - because that's what makes one love his favorite characters even more.
mike kelley said at one point that he wanted to end the show with emily and victoria facing eachother with skeletons in the closet and only one will live
Turning herself in isn't what she plans to do. She wishes to frame Victoria for her own murder and then disappear, lest anyone find out she's alive and therefore that Victoria is innocent (of that particular crime).
The evidence would be circumstantial, not to mention illegally taken. They'd get away with it, with a good lawyer. Or jury tainting like the last two trials, not to mention the Initiative would do something to make it more circumstantial. What Emily is doing yes is to cause misery, but also to force them all apart and force them to lose everything so they'd be defenceless. The only way to prosecute powerful people like that is to break them down to be defenceless coz they can do so much to taint the judge, lawyer, jury, evidence, witnesses. So much can go wrong. She is trying to force Conrad and her children from Victoria so shed have no one to protect her so shed probs confess and destroy Conrad with her.
That's hat Emily has wanted twice now. Victoria (1x22)' Conrad (3x03) but someone always intervenes. She's always wanted them to confess, 1. Coz it's easier, 2. It's cements that her father wasnt the terrorist to the public and 3. It means she wouldn't have to destroy them
Run off with Jack and the money. 1. 2004: Jack was already in a relationship. 2. Jack was having a baby with faux Amanda, he was gonna be happy, so she left him. 3. Amanda had just died. 4. Declan had just died and he just found out who she was and he was piss angry with her. No way in hell Jack and Amanda was gonna happen after Amanda and Declan's death.
Um, I think your forgetting the part in the timeline when Jack kept trying to put himself out for Emily, during the first half of the first season. She could have told him the truth, and it's likely he would have understood, due to the fact no one he loved had died because of her yet, or she could have just started a relationship with him as Emily Thorne, dumping all her baggage. Either way she chose not to.
Do you really think he would have understood. Them he was totally good. He'd probs try and ruin all her plans, to get her out of it. If he knew who she was then he'd probs never leave her alone, which would put him right into the middle of everything. She was trying to keep him out of it. How could she start a relationship with Jack, when dating Daniel for Revenge. She spent 10 years training for revenge, it would be pretty unrealistic to stop it all for someone your not sure your relationship would work out.
What are you even talking about? He didn't even know about her Revenge, she could have just left with him, telling him she was Amanda. It's not that hard to stop dating someone, and that's the point I was trying to make...She had chances to leave, to run away, and she chose not to, which therefore means she will not get out of this easily. If the show ends with something like "Emily just ditches the Grayson's after they went to jail to go run around through butterfly covered fields with Jack or Aiden", well, that does not make sense nor is it a good ending. It would feel as of they are trying to shove some false happiness down our throats.
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"Emily successfully takes down the Graysons, but then turns herself in and confesses to all she's done"
ReplyDeleteNot the end I'd want but I think this is going to happen in the last episode!
Live Happily Ever After!! Because this is not a story about forgiveness! Emily rules!
ReplyDeleteIt is a modernisation of the Count of Monte Cristo so it should end in a similar way. She should complete her revenge but almost ends up killing everyone she cares for in the process. She realises that she is too broken ever to have a happy ending so Emily and Nolan should disappear never to be seen again.
ReplyDeleteIt needs to end in a bittersweet fashion, not happily ever after.
I'm thinking of something similar - it's funny that I didn't an option like that in the poll, heh. But now it occurs to me that it's probably the most fitting ending. She gets her revenge but then realizes that it doesn't bring her "closure" or make her happy, even if the Graysons got what they deserved; she's too damaged to go live it up on a beach in the Maldives. And yes, regardless of whether or not she ends up with any of her suitors, Nolan should definitely be by her side in the end. Regardless of blood, he's her true family.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely. Not just because of the Count of Monte Cristo storyline but also because of the very first quote we see before the beginning of the pilot "Before you embark on a journey or revenge, dig two graves."
ReplyDeleteI don't want a happy ending, and think she dies with her revenge.
ReplyDeleteThe count of monte cristo ends happily. He finds out that he has a son and gets back together with the love of his life.
ReplyDeleteOnly in the recent movie. The original book ends with a happy ending for Valentine and Max (even if Edmond almost kills her) but is horrific for everyone else.
ReplyDeleteMercedes goes to live alone, Albert (who is not his son) joins the army and goes overseas, Edmond goes off with his former slave in to the Mediterranean, filled with grief about the damage he has caused (particularly to the Villefort family).
I agree. It is not purely it has to follow the book but that it makes sense thematically.
ReplyDeleteEmily has to succeed, but I don't know if I want her to live happily ever after; I'd be ok with that, but endings need to be bittersweet. It would be really affecting if she died in the process, but it would make sense in the show's logic. The option that makes the most sense to me is the confession one, but then again I would need to see how the writers deal with it.
ReplyDeleteI always imagined the ending of Revenge taking place on the beach; Emily has taken care of her job and let the sea wash her feet as she start tearing up, remembering those she lost in the way, then smiling and saying: "it's over... you can be at ease now dad" then some flashbacks showing us all the sacrifices in the way, then one last shot at the beach and cut to black. The end. I don't know if that's the best ending, but that's the one I came up with
I think she dies with her revenge. It depends on how its done to be honest, but I think the point is that she can no longer live a normal happy life because her life is her revenge .If she is done, then she is probably done as I suspect she will be incapable of living for something else.
ReplyDeletewhat about a bittersweet ending? That's middle ground
ReplyDeletethats depressing I like the movie way better and hope revenge ends similar. I want emily to get her revenge/find peace, run off with the love of her life (as long as its not daniel) and live happily ever after
ReplyDeleteYeah - even if she doesn't die physically, her life ends when her revenge quest does. She's been hellbent on this for how long? She never had any other goal in her life. Maybe she loves Aiden or Jack, and Nolan in the familial sense, but she can't live for those alone. So when all is said and done, she's going to be dead inside, even if she survives.
ReplyDeleteThat's depressing, lol... but it does make the most sense for the character and the story.
I kind of like this, but I really want to know what happens. We have been there the whole way and I want an ending that is final. Don't want to wonder what happens, show me..she goes off with one of the guys, gets killed or confesses..just show me.
ReplyDeleteIt seems people don't like the fact we want a more realistic ending rather than sunshine, rainbows, and puppies.
ReplyDeleteIt's understandable. If you love a character you don't want anything bad to happen to them.
ReplyDeleteIt's (one of the reasons) why I'm a terrible writer. I feel guilty when I put a character through hell.
first she should succeed in her revenge but then after she should realize just how much shes lost she should end up with noone after the show is called revenge, so there shouldn't be a happily ever after if it was once upon a time then she should end up with jack. it would make more sense that after everything shes lost she commits suicide because she has nothing to live for
ReplyDeleteit would be so cool if she ends up with nolan
ReplyDeleteEmily is young and was going to give up her vengeance for Jack until faux manda turned up pregnant. She has had a sad and unhappy life ...so how can we wish her a sad ending after watching her over three seasons ...surely we should empathise with her and hope she realises the healing of love with Jack is her salvation ...her true love and wish her a happy ending. I personally would resent the writers giving the story a sad ending...it's been sad enough all round and couldn't care less about the graysons
ReplyDeletejust let them rot in their own greed and misery.
All this talk about endings is making me nervous, is this season supposed to be the last or did I miss something?
ReplyDeleteIn any case I hope Emily ends up with Aiden and Nolan, I'm disliking Jack more and more. I loved his couple with the real Emily, they were great together.
This isn't supposed to be the last season, but everything depends on ratings, of course. The show did do better last week, but it needs to remain steady in the numbers to keep out of cancellation danger. It doesn't need to skyrocket, fortunately, since it's still one of ABC's better performers, but some improvement would go a long way towards a renewal.
ReplyDelete"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."
ReplyDeletethis is how the show started, and I have a feeling it will end this way
I think it will be the death of Emily thorne and the rising again of Amanda Clarke.
ReplyDeleteso there we have the two graves.
A happy end for Amanda clarke
When you embark on a journey of Revenge dig two graves, I think Emily will die and at the very end and just before the show ends there will be a scene that gives the viewers the ever slight chance that she is in fact alive.
ReplyDeleteEmily fakes her death and becomes a lumberjack.
ReplyDeleteI want Revenge to end with Emily's death, so I can hear Victoria utter the words "She got what she wanted. She's with her father now." I don't know where I heard that line but it would be brilliant on the show. I love Emily, but I think this series is too complex to end happily.
ReplyDeleteThe series can end however the writers want it to.
ReplyDeleteLets hope they have enough affection for Emily for that as most of us do.
Cannot understand why some people think she should die!...give her a break and a good future.
I hope she gets a happy ending but not with Aiden
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see Emily happy.
ReplyDeleteHm, never said it couldn't. Emily could've ran off with all her money and Jack, but she chose not to. As stated in a quote at the start of the show, Revenge will not end well for either party, and shows that end with everyone just going off and living happy lives don't stick with me for too long.
ReplyDeleteI know how horrible her life has been, but it doesn't change the fact that she's an anti-heroine who does awful things to achieve her goal. How many have gotten hurt or even killed as a result of her endless manipulations and schemes? Not just the people who betrayed her father, but others like Fauxmanda. Yes, the Graysons are scum and deserve to be punished, but if all Emily wanted was justice for her father, she could've just exposed the truth about the plane crash. She had the evidence on that laptop last season, and for reasons beyond my comprehension, threw it into the ocean. What she wants is vengeance, and when the show's very title refers to that agenda, it couldn't be more clear.
ReplyDeleteOf course I love the character, she's complex, interesting and badass, but also has a vulnerable and touching side, and EVC does a fantastic job portraying her. But when all is said and done, she's still far from a good person. As such, I think a fairytale happy ending where Ems gets everything she wants would be inappropriate. It would mean the writers are oversimplifying things and not owning up to the dark nature of their lead character.
I don't want to get into the romance aspect too much, because there's nothing I hate more than shipping wars, but it would be way too cliche and tacky (in my opinion) to go with Emily being healed/redeemed through the love of a good man (Jack). A lot of people like them together and that's okay, but I think it's unrealistic to expect someone as damaged as Emily to move on and be happy in life just because she's with a nice guy like a Jack. Yes, she wanted that in the end of Season 1 when she thought the truth about the Graysons was going to be revealed and her work would be done, but we don't know that they would've actually managed to form a healthy long-term relationship. They're drawn to each other largely because of their childhood memories, but adult Emily is nothing like that little girl Jack once knew.
VERY Limited choices in the poll.
ReplyDeleteEmily has to succeed in her quest, but that does not mean that she either lives happily ever after or goes to jail. There are far worse fates than that.
The most perfect ending for her would be that the success at her revenge, essentially costs everyone she cared about. So, even though she achieved what she set out to do, she is doomed to living a lonely dissatisfying life.
Agreed. That's pretty much the most perfect ending I can think about.
ReplyDeleteI think the very fact that its what she PLANS to do, means that that won't happen ;]
ReplyDeleteSorry but no.
ReplyDeleteA Monte Cristo story CAN'T end happily for the titular count - that ruins the whole idea of the story. He(and in this case she) is a tragic antihero through and through.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I don't know, part of me WANTS the characters I Like to go through horrific things and tragedies - because that's what makes one love his favorite characters even more.
ReplyDeleteWho knows.. Or maybe she'll just kill herself after killing the last Grayson ;)
ReplyDeletemike kelley said at one point that he wanted to end the show with emily and victoria facing eachother with skeletons in the closet and only one will live
ReplyDeleteSame for me here.
ReplyDeleteTurning herself in isn't what she plans to do. She wishes to frame Victoria for her own murder and then disappear, lest anyone find out she's alive and therefore that Victoria is innocent (of that particular crime).
ReplyDeleteThe evidence would be circumstantial, not to mention illegally taken.
ReplyDeleteThey'd get away with it, with a good lawyer. Or jury tainting like the last two trials, not to mention the Initiative would do something to make it more circumstantial.
What Emily is doing yes is to cause misery, but also to force them all apart and force them to lose everything so they'd be defenceless. The only way to prosecute powerful people like that is to break them down to be defenceless coz they can do so much to taint the judge, lawyer, jury, evidence, witnesses. So much can go wrong.
She is trying to force Conrad and her children from Victoria so shed have no one to protect her so shed probs confess and destroy Conrad with her.
That's hat Emily has wanted twice now. Victoria (1x22)' Conrad (3x03) but someone always intervenes. She's always wanted them to confess, 1. Coz it's easier, 2. It's cements that her father wasnt the terrorist to the public and 3. It means she wouldn't have to destroy them
Run off with Jack and the money.
ReplyDelete1. 2004: Jack was already in a relationship.
2. Jack was having a baby with faux Amanda, he was gonna be happy, so she left him.
3. Amanda had just died.
4. Declan had just died and he just found out who she was and he was piss angry with her. No way in hell Jack and Amanda was gonna happen after Amanda and Declan's death.
Um, I think your forgetting the part in the timeline when Jack kept trying to put himself out for Emily, during the first half of the first season. She could have told him the truth, and it's likely he would have understood, due to the fact no one he loved had died because of her yet, or she could have just started a relationship with him as Emily Thorne, dumping all her baggage. Either way she chose not to.
ReplyDeleteDidn't she promise to free Mason?
ReplyDelete"Amanda Clarke takes down all the graysons and dies"
ReplyDeleteOh, yeah. Don't know how that's gonna work.
ReplyDeleteDo you really think he would have understood. Them he was totally good. He'd probs try and ruin all her plans, to get her out of it. If he knew who she was then he'd probs never leave her alone, which would put him right into the middle of everything. She was trying to keep him out of it.
ReplyDeleteHow could she start a relationship with Jack, when dating Daniel for Revenge.
She spent 10 years training for revenge, it would be pretty unrealistic to stop it all for someone your not sure your relationship would work out.
What are you even talking about? He didn't even know about her Revenge, she could have just left with him, telling him she was Amanda. It's not that hard to stop dating someone, and that's the point I was trying to make...She had chances to leave, to run away, and she chose not to, which therefore means she will not get out of this easily. If the show ends with something like "Emily just ditches the Grayson's after they went to jail to go run around through butterfly covered fields with Jack or Aiden", well, that does not make sense nor is it a good ending. It would feel as of they are trying to shove some false happiness down our throats.
ReplyDeleteDying in Nolan`s Arms after successfully take down the Graysons and they take her with them!
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