Despite Brian’s pleas that he didn’t want leadership, and by extension, a return to the man who did horrendous things, the Governor’s nature reasserted itself. Likewise, after a trip down hope and happy-feels lane last week, the show’s nature reasserted itself with a dark and twisted psychological tromp through the head of one of the most evil characters currently on television.
The Walking Dead frequently does dark, but this episode was particularly twisted. Think about this – the Governor kills Martinez because Martinez suggests he might want to share power with him. The Governor is horrified at the idea of leadership again, because this is the part of himself that he’s burnt off – the part that associates surviving with killing. He’s so horrified at the idea of becoming the killer he once was that he brutally murders Martinez, who only wanted a few beers and a game of golf, and throws him screaming into the pit of walkers.
Dream-Land
The episode had a dream-like quality throughout, with cryptic conversations, heavily symbolic events, and a nightmare quality to it. It starts as a conversation in a sunny scene between the Governor and Meghan over a game of chess, with symbolism and double-meanings. Meghan is again playing the white chess pieces, while the Governor is playing the black ones. The scene begins with the Governor telling Meghan that she can’t think forever. Sooner or later she needs to make a move. It ends with Meghan asking him to make a move after she’s posed the troubling question whether they will be all right because they are good, to which he responds, he’s thinking, as he looks out toward the treeline and the darkness beyond.The Governor is doing laundry – more specifically squeezing out the water in the clothes as he hangs them up to dry. Water is recurring symbol throughout this episode and appears to represent death and darkness. As the Governor joins Martinez, Pete, and Mitch on a scouting mission, he’s told the pond is dead – meaning there are no fish there. He’s continually plagued by leaks in his camper home – darkness and death pushing its way in. And in the end, when the Governor gives in, he chooses to leave Pete uncovered and undead under water – recreating his fish tanks from last season, which he told Andrea served as reminders of the faces of the enemy. The Governor’s attempt to keep out the darkness and death can be seen as a parallel to Rick’s efforts to keep the darkness and death beyond the fence lines, and to banish Carol when she brought some of that darkness back into the camp.
Duality
This was a true Dr. Jekyll and Hyde story, as actor David Morrissey teased in a recent interview. There’s a clear internal push-and-pull struggle going on within the Governor’s psyche as he tries to keep his dark side out. The murderer they encounter after following a trail of decapitated bodies is a mirror of his darker self. The labels pinned to the bodies, “liar,” “rapist,” and “murderer,” all describe the Governor. While we’re told the Governor stopped short of actual rape with Maggie, in the comics the Governor does rape Michonne, so the show seemed to be insinuating that this too is part of his profile.The murderer has also lost a wife and daughter, which like the governor appears to have pushed him over the edge, and he keeps a photo of the three of them with him. Also, like the Governor, he decapitates and keeps the heads as reminders. I raised a question about what justice would look like in this new world in an article a few weeks ago. As an interesting twist to this theme of justice, the dead murderer is not only killing in self-defense, but he’s judging and passing judgment not just to those he killed, but to himself as well.
Another symbol of his duality is the Governor’s eyes. He lost one – maybe the one associated with his humanity - on the night Michonne put down dead Penny. We got a brief glimpse of this cavity as Lilly tended to it, but the eye patch is back on immediately after Meghan is attacked.
Who is the Dead Weight?
When the Governor’s group is integrated into the camp, they’re told that everyone contributes and dead weight won’t be tolerated. Lilly with her nursing and Tara by defending the perimeter make themselves useful, so they’re clearly not the dead weight here. The secondary meaning would seem to apply to Martinez and Pete – two well-meaning men, who in the Governor’s eyes cannot keep the community safe. In a twist on words, the governor ties down dead Pete in the lake with some weights. But maybe the real dead weight in the end – the person who had to go – was Brian Heriot.To me this was stronger than last week’s episode because it was darker. While I enjoyed the twists and additional depth that was added to the Governor’s character in last week’s set up, this week we returned to the twisted nature that is The Walking Dead. There were lots of layers to this episode, and I found myself scrapping almost everything I wrote after a first draft – something that is unusual for me and a sign that the episode is too involved for just one viewing.
Other Thoughts:
- As I mentioned above, the eye patch was symbolic, but still, the Governor had it off when Meghan started screaming, and had it back on as he came to her rescue. I doubt he took the time to put it back in place.- The Governor’s view on life – that survival equals killing – stands at a stark contrast to Hershel’s view that was explored a couple of weeks ago. In Hershel’s view, self-sacrifice and refusing to let go of anyone is the path to saving lives.
- We learned that the Governor’s distain for self-sacrificing “heroes” goes back further than the zombie apocalypse, as the governor recites a childhood story of his brother, the hero, taking a beating for him. And in the end, they both were beaten anyway.
Great point about The Gov's disdain for self-sacrificing heroes, I didn't catch that at first. And the ending to that episode was great. i love how TWD makes it so I can't wait for the next Ep.
ReplyDeleteI heard before the start of the season that there will be an episode that is taken right out of the comics. I wonder if its next weeks?
Also, Did you or anyone else think that girl in the pic the Gov got from the that dead guy looked remarkably like Penny?
I think the Governor hates (and maybe hate is too strong a word) people who put ideals like nobility and doing the right thing before self-preservation. He was probably a little like this once, and lost Penny as a result - in his mind anyway. Or he said something to that effect last season.
ReplyDeleteI don't see him as delusional. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's protecting those he loves at the expense of everyone and everything else.
You know, they really lost me with this one. Not to say it didn't have its strong moments (water symbolism, duality of the episode title, insight into the Governor's "hero complex," and MAN WHAT AN AWESOME UNDERWATER WALKER SHOT!!). It's just that, if you're gonna take a total time-out and do an episode like "Live Bait" -- i.e., veer away from the main story action to tease whether this demented guy might have the ability to battle back his dark side -- don't pull a complete 180 in the Very. Next. Episode.
ReplyDeleteNot only does that feel like whiplash; it makes the setup episode seem like a total time-waster. I feel like the writing and ideas presented in "Live Bait" (since the writers did, after all, go to the trouble of presenting them) needed a bit more time to marinate.
As a viewer, I was really intrigued by the way "Live Bait" threw everything off-kilter, making the stakes of standoff #2 between The Governor and Rick open to all kinds of possibilities. But with "Dead Weight," they pretty much brought everything right back where it stood last season -- New Woodbury vs. Prison, The Sequel -- except with a tank and heavy artillery, which I'm guessing will equal much bigger explosions and way more casualties this time around.
I guess I just need to remember that this is still "The Walking Dead" -- home of creative weekly walker kills, and way more entertaining than it has any right to be! It's just that, for a quick minute there, I really thought they were gonna try for a full-on "Breaking Bad" style character arc -- and I'm just a sucker for that kind of writing. :)
As much as I didn't like last weeks episode I found this one baffling ! They spent all last week adding dimension and questioning if the governor was as evil as we thought and the in this episode they basically answered it and said 'yes he is' ! What a waste of two episodes in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteWow! Some deep thinking there, Chris. Your article is a reminder to me to stop judging the people of TWD as though they are me, because they are not. They are characters in a fiction. What they do does not represent what someone like me should or could do, because the characters are at the service of the storyteller, and what they do often represents a major theme the teller wants us to consider. Kind of like Lost. I'm looking back at the Rick/Carol conflict in this light and it changes things.
ReplyDeleteThis was a good episode and I enjoyed it. Agree that the missing eye, with or without patch, is symbolic. For one thing, in the real world, a traumatic loss of an eye would necessitate a much longer recovery process. Didn't Guv get up the same day and start leading again? I miss Martinez but I get why One Eye couldn't deal with him. I think he realized he needed to assume leadership again if his "family" were to be safe, because everyone else around was weak or weak minded, and he had to get rid of "dead weight" in order to rule again. It's like when the new CEO comes in and fires all the staff, replacing them with his own people.
The Carol/Rick conflict was a perfect set-up for this episode. It's as though Carol and Rick represent the two parts of Guv's thinking. And Carol's creepy conversation with Lizzie about how sooner or later all people transform, all eventually lose that pesky humanity, was on the nose more so than it seemed at the time.
Great recap, Chris. Thanks.
I don't think the Governor hates the heroes as much as he hates the
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other people heroes. I think the Governor may actually see himself as a
hero of a sort and feels a lack of appreciation for everything he has
done to keep others safe.
Heroes make personal sacrifices for the good of the others, not themselves. Woodbury and everything he's done - as Phillip/Gov - has been about the protection of what's important to him - his family and his empire. Not so much the people within, but what he invested his time, sweat and tears in. He probably doesn't even care there are Woodbury people in the prison. Heroes in this world get not only themselves killed but other people. It's why Rick stepped out of that Hero/Leader role because his decisions kept getting people killed. He's not as ruthless as the Governor about ruling, so he leans towards that Hero side of the scale, whereas the Governor never has.
ReplyDeleteI don't think its as simplistic as good and evil, the chess game scene suggests the episode doesn't think so too. Neither does the "we survive because we're good people" mentality held by Meghan and Rick.
ReplyDeleteMuch like Pete and Martinez, Merle and Daryl, Rick and the Governor, people are both capable of good and evil, great heroism and great cowardice depending on the situation. This episode called for Brian to make a move, just like the last one did, and depending on which side the characters were on that move was good or not.
The Governor as a character, has evolved, that much is undeniable. Much like the serial killed, it's impossible to predict his next move based on a simplistic concepts as good and evil.
Here's a link to that article if you're interested Chris.
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I see Carol and Rick as the female and male version of the same being: they live to serve and they only kill to protect, they are fiercely loyal and nurturing but, no matter how gregarious they may be, they are loners at their core.
ReplyDeleteThe Governor is not a loner, never was and never will, he inspires loyalty rather than cultivate it himself and he kills whenver he has to regardless whom he he saves in the process. The conflict in itself, doesn't seem to be a contest of which is the righteous path but rather a collision of these two very different paths.
I guess I never put much stock in the Governor's change. Maybe I never forgave him or forgot what he did, but except for a brief few moments, I didn't think he had really changed - only buried things.
ReplyDeleteFor me, Live Bait still has changed things. These two episodes presented a much more rounded-out look at the Governor than we got last season or that I ever expected to get from this one. He's a more interesting foil for Rick now that we've seen more of both the lighter and a darker sides of both.
I'd like to see other leadership styles challenge this one view (by the governor) that being a leader means taking all potential threats down first - even if they just want to play some golf. Rick has tried a few with various level of successes, and Hershel exhibited a different style of leadership in the quarantined section of the prison. If there's only one way of surviving, or one right answer, that makes this a less interesting story, wouldn't you say?
ReplyDeleteVery well said. They all have light sides and dark sides. Even Hershel has lost faith and admits to dark periods in his past.
ReplyDeleteThanks! It seems Rick has played all roles at one point or another - the hero like Pete, the man without faith, the Governor who sees things as kill-or-be-killed. Trying to stick these characters into set molds gets difficult because they're always changing and switching roles. Carol is not in the same place she was two seasons ago, and Rick isn't the Rick of last season anymore.
ReplyDeleteLast season I taking the characters more literally. I don't know if this is a result of having written about this show longer, or because the tone has changed, but this season I'm looking at them more as literary devices than people. In this episode especially, I couldn't take what was happening to the Governor too literally. Everything seemed too perfect - too symbolic. An example is the string of decapitated bodies who perfectly spelled out all of the Governor's biggest sins. If I thought of it as a dream where everything is supposed to be symbolic, it made more sense.
Thanks!
ReplyDeleteMuch like the Governor dark period moved him to save Meghan, it was the dark periods in Hershel's life what inspired him to help the sick in the prison or take Rick's group at the farm.
ReplyDeleteRick went feral last season because he lost Lori, Lizzie is so messed up because she has no parents, Michonne completely lost touch with her humanity by the time Andrea found her, there's no way to tell how any of them would change.
I think everyone is missing a significant part of the episode - when the Governor tries to flee with his new family, only to be forced back by the zombies in the mud pit. I think his saying they had to leave because things were about to fall apart where just as much of a reference to himself starting to lose it as anything else. He killed Martinez because he didn't want to be a leader, as well as Martinez was the only one who could out his past, thus wrecking his changed life. He saw the conflict between the brothers as something he wanted no part of, as it would return him to his old ways. But when he was forced back, he saw he had no choice any more, and in order to protect his new family, he had to go back to being a sociopath/psychopath.
ReplyDeleteThat's a good point. This wasn't easy for him, and he wasn't pretending to want to be good. The episode was about his struggle. I think the comment he made before they headed out, that he's been through this before - looked at in the context of knowing that he was the one to turn the gun on his own people - seemed to point to his acknowledgement that he would become a threat.
ReplyDeleteI'm not buying into the argument yet that he had no choice. People always have choices. The counterargument to this would be that by asking what he needs to do to survive, the Governor is asking the wrong question. The right question, asked by Hershel, is not what you need to do to become safe, it's to decide what you're risking your life for.
I think the Gov hates heroes b/c he isn't one, will never be one and knows deep down he's a despicable monster. But I'm ready for this story arc to be over, it was horribly done last season and I'm so ready for the story to move on from it, with Team Prison as it should be.
ReplyDeleteGood points and i never see it good and evil in TWD (I agreed with what carol did) I just felt that the 'depth' added to the character was already there. In s3 I always took he was killing as a way to survive and keep Woodbury going. He was doing it in his eyes for the greater good. I just felt that these episodes explained that more clearly. I think there is a divide with fans over the governor. Some want further development and others want him killed. We will see
ReplyDeleteHi there, thanks for this review that i found quite witty! Did you notice the water threat again in ep 8: "Danger : flash flood area", "they can't cross rivers: water is a protection" (hell no!) etc....
ReplyDeleteOn my opinion, the will and even the idea of being a hero is faaaaar from being a concern for survivors in twd. But in surviving, they all struggle with their own ethics every day ; always wondering on whether what they have all been obliged to do, or that they do, or what will choose to do to survive, is good or bad.
I think the chess scene and what the gov was about to say to hershel in the caravan, or what he said to his group at the beginning of ep 8 show that he wants to be a good man and doesn't want to kill people anymore ("i don't want it" in ep 7). He just sometimes thinks he has no choice ("we have no choice" on episode 8) and it's the only way to protect his new family. He feels trapped as much as when he tried to flee and get stopped by the bogged down walkers.
His new family is so pure and naïve ,( i think the girls tara lilly and meghan, may have not killed anyone, not even - or hardly- walkers, untill ep 8, and even then, i think lilly killed him to stop his suffering), that i think they represent a bit of untouched humanity , a source for redemption for someone who has lost it. And that's why gov seems to truly love someone for the first time in twd cause protecting Humanity makes him a good person, a human-->he now wants to protect his little humanity through them but fail at the end cause he's too far gone on his opinion (he rejects Rick's suggestion that he has a choice and can find a sort of forgiveness for everybody's good ). And then he's that executionner again: chopping off our good old herschel's head was abandonning humanity once for all, and that's when he definitely lost Lilly's respect....
PS:Don't be harsh on my english i'm a foreigner
I don't think the Governor hates the heroes as much as he hates the concept of heroes (versus villains) people who worship heroes or name other people heroes. I think the Governor may actually see himself as a hero of a sort and feels a lack of appreciation for everything he has done to keep others safe.
ReplyDeleteCall it his own personal version of Walter White's delusional thinking, "I did it all for my family!"
The second part of the Governor's origin stories seems to have undone all of the brilliant work from the previous installment 'Live Bait'. Has Gimple and his team tried to use these two episodes as a method of helping the audience understand the psyche behind the cartoonish villainy of Season 3's Governor?
ReplyDeleteOn the surface level, this episode was about restoring the Governor to a position of power. This was always going to happen in order to allow a regular character to make decisions and face the consequences.
This being said, the episode had a sense of inevitability. The Governor was never actually in charge of his own destiny. He was, in his own slightly twisted way, doing what was best for the group at the expense of all of the growth he has undergone over the past two episodes. I would never go as far as to describe the Governor as an altruist - but the pained expression on his face as he pleads to Martinez really sells this idea to me.
While the Governor really didn't want to take a leadership role, he simply was the best man for the job - especially if he wanted to keep his new found family alive. "I don't want it! Damn it!" he shouts as he drags Martinez over to the Biter pit, a man too reckless and self indulged to lead the group. Later on Pete also falls foul of the Governor. His compassion and lack of the killer instinct being the final nails in his watery coffin.
The Governor, like the Walkers stuck in the mud, like Walker!Pete chained to the bottom of the lake, was trapped. There was no other option for him but to take the mantle of command once again. It was inevitable - like checkmate, like the dripping of water - the Governor was always going to be reborn.
It remains to be seen whether the past two episodes and the growth of the Governor was merely to compensate for such poor development last season, or whether, going forward we will see the glimmering hope of the last flame in the West. Come back Brian!
Interesting way of looking at it. That actually makes the most sense looking back at last night's episode. He sacrificed so much to help that family and yet at the camp they say to Martinez, "this is the first time we ever felt safe."
ReplyDeleteI think that was the turning point...he realized, I tried being a hero and where has it got me? Can't even get any recognition. The only time people notice him is when he declares himself a leader - thus killing the two potential threats to his leadership of these new people. You have to get your hands dirty to get noticed.
I thought they did a great job on this episode. I can't wait until next week either. Then we have the break. :(
ReplyDeleteI didn't hear what you heard about episode from the comics, but I've been a little spoiler-lite this season, so maybe someone else knows? I'll have to take another look at that photo! I thought the positioning of the family was similar, but I didn't notice a resemblance in the faces, but I'll have to take another look now.
If I find the article I will post it. But, I just watched the Ep again and that girl looks just like Penny.
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