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POLL : What did you think of Once Upon a Time - Dark Hollow?

Nov 11, 2013

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  1. Belle and Ariel were fantastic!

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  2. I loved it! Ariel was hilarious with the gun and not knowing what it was. Can't wait until she finds Eric. Hoping JoAnna becomes a regular now.

    The Hook and Neal awkwardness was hilarious, but a little weird. It's like "Hey, I fucked your mom and now I want to be with the mother of your child. You're okay with that, right?" Glad Emma told them she'd choose Henry.


    I thought Charming was going to tell Snow he wanted to have sex with her there instead of the tree house thing. Oops.


    Can't wait for next week! Loved seeing Storybrooke again.

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  3. I feel like this was a real improvement from last week. Ariel didn’t do much for me last week, but paired with Belle this week? LOVED it. Those two were so cute and actually hilarious, with chemistry you can actually notice. I really don’t even think I want Eric to show up; he did nothing for me last week, but this week, with the right pairing, Ariel is downright rootable.

    Glasses and Keychain were kind of hokey with their srs bsns faces in the first half, but I’ll forgive them because OMG DARLING BROTHERS! And I know Henry is a kid, but he’s the one who cracked the curse’s existence in season 1, how could he fall for that messy plan??? Still, Wendy is back! <3

    Snow and Charming: I’ve loved those two right from the get go, but I admit that there hasn’t been much between them that moved me recently, apart from this one. Charming’s fear felt very real, and while Snow was being irritatingly passive aggressive for a while, they actually hashed stuff out. I liked that.

    Sadly, as I had predicted, the most disappointing part of this episode was the Hook/Emma/Neal triangle. I know I mention this in every post, but where is my Hook/Neal scene where they hash stuff out and they DON’T act like freaking 6 year olds fighting over a toy. I’m at the point where I question how anyone can ship either of them with a straight face, because the writers are simply butchering both characters to suit this shitty storyline. I love Emma so damn much and I was glad that she shut that shit down, but seeing
    her plot line reduced to…. this… as an Emma fan, it’s painful.

    Overall, good episode. Minus the romance crap, things are shaping up.

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  4. First half was kinda boring, but the second half was AWESOME! Once again Tumblr users had already guessed who was inside that box but it was cool to see Wendy Darling back. I think she'll die protecting Henry. Pan once again shows how much of a great villain he is. 100 years! He must have captured Wendy and her brothers right after Baelfire.

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  5. Loved the Ariel and Belle teamwork. I hope we see plenty more of Ariel and that she finds Eric.


    Snow and Charming's scene was great tonight.

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  6. That wasn't very good. Belle has turned into Bella from the Twilight books, which probably isn't good considering the abusive strains in her relationships with Rumple.

    Not really a fan of the Charmings or the Two Dinks right now. I'm glad Snow and Charming got their issues out with each other but I guess that after Snow's confession last week she pretty much isn't all that interested in being with Emma at all. I don't really know what they're doing with those two but it seems like they only bring up Emma when it's about their angst and don't think about what's best for their daughter and her continued emotional well-being.

    It was nice to see Regina and Emma taking care of business, even without Regina being there! But man, it sucks that Emma is stuck with two such selfish love interests that only care about her as a prize to be won. Considering that Neal didn't care about her LITERALLY five days ago and Hook left her to die a few times, one within the last few days (let's not pretend, he left her to die by taking the last bean and if she and Regina hadn't unleashed their combined magics on the trigger, she WOULD actually have been dead before he returned). They needed to spend a lot more episodes with more time elapsing in canon before I'd buy either of them as having genuine feelings for her as a person, the actual person she is now.

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  7. I'm with you on the triangle. Considering the MASSIVE amount of issues they haven't covered with Emma, reducing her to what her storyline is now is indeed painful.

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  8. I think this one might be my favorite episode of the season so far. It was fantastic! I LOVED Ariel in Golds shop seeing all human things XD


    Ariel is seriously my new favorite character and I'm praying they make her a regular for the second half of the season.

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  9. I thought it was great!! I was super happy to see Storybrooke again (esp. Granny, the dwarves, Mother Superior, and ARCHIE!!!) And of course I was thrilled to see Belle once again <3 I wish they got more scenes though :-/ Maybe the episode after the next will feature some scenes again?? I dunno. :-P Belle and Ariel were awesome together. I want to see more of that sis-omance (female version of bromance, lol). I already knew John and Michael Darling were the Home Office guys thanks to spoilers, but it was an awesome subplot, and though they did wrong about tying up Belle and Ariel and stealing Pandora's Box, I understood their motive. Go. brother power! Save your sister!! But be nice to Belle and Ariel! :-P I hope to see them again as well. HENRY!!! I was so happy to see him again and his subplot was verrrrry interesting!!! Poor Wendy :-/ I wonder if she and Peter Pan like each other?? Either way, it's very wrong and albeit creepy of Pan to keep her captive. Henry and Wendy's scene together was so cute (not in a shipper way, though, mind you lol). I wonder what Skull Cave brings!!!!!! Henry and Pan's scenes together are just impressive and hair-raising. What will happen to Henry?? To Pan?? The mysteries is tantalizing!!!! The lines I laughed outright at was Grumpy's quip about Ruby's outfits (he speaks for the fans who disliked Ruby's scanty attire!! LOL!! I miss Ruby though :-( ) AND Regina's line on Eric "whatever Eric's into those days", LOL I love the Evil Queen of Sass :-) And the distant Rumbelle made me want to go to a dark corner and melt <3 <3 Rumple's snark about Regina's jealousy was uncalled-for, though :-/ I love both of them and want BOTH to be happy!! Snow and Charming was other good subplot. It was sad that Snow was so mad at him but understandable, and I'm just so happy they finally made up :-) <3 OH, Emma/Neal/Hook?? *rolls eyes* Nope, not going there. 'Nuff said. The Dark Hollow plot was fascinating, though, and it was so awesome Emma used the magic Regina taught her :-D I want more of Regina/Emma (not shipping them, though) later in the future. Curious if their relationship can form into at least a peaceful friendship?? I'm happy that Emma wouldn't take Hook and Neal's crap and said she would choose Henry (but I also hope later, when she's ready, she can find other place in her heart for Neal. <3) And Hook needs his own true love as well! I went "yay!" when I saw Tinker Bell :-D Glad she's back!! I wonder how exactly she will help..and in a very big nutshell, these are my thoughts on tonight's episode, lol.

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  10. Loved the Belle/Ariel stuff. I knew those guys were going to be John and Michael from the moment the camera zoomed in on the teddy bear thing hanging on the rearview mirror.

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  11. Another solid good episode

    I called it a few weeks ago. I knew it was Wendy in the cage.
    I feel so sorry for Wendy, Michael, and John. All 3 are being played by Pan. so sad.
    I was like HA! when Neal said "Thanks she got me now" to Hook and SwanFire, But of them lost major points when they started acting like Alpha Males in front of Emma. that wasn't the time nor place. Also I hate to the say this but the love triangle has started and so far neither Neal or Hook is winning just Henry.

    Welcome back Storybrooke. I have missed that town and people. I know I'm not the only who was looking for Rudy in the diner .. she'll be back soon.

    Loved Ariel and Belle's scene together.
    I also like how even though it was a teaser a few months ago the creators made sure Leroy say Ariel just like in the teaser.

    Next week episode looks intense. Not only a major battle is about to beginning but the introduction of Rumple's father Colin.

    THINK LOVELY THOUGHTS everyone

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  12. I loved Storybrooke, I'm so glad they brought it back. Belle & Ariel were wonderful! Such great chemistry between those actresses. I really hope Ariel is going to be a regular, I'm loving her scenes with everyone.

    Charming & Snow, it was nice to see them finally starting to hash things out a bit. And good to see the plot FINALLY starting to move on a bit with Tink & Wendy + the Darlings. Also, Regina & Rumple were great. I really want more of those two. They have excellent villain chemistry. It was also excellent to see Regina actually not screw Ariel over this time. And Rumple being all smug about his love life at Regina was sort of hilarious.

    As far as romance, I think the only one I even slightly enjoyed was Belle/Rumple & that's mostly b/c they weren't really in any scenes together. Lol. The "love triangle" was horrific. It's ruining all three characters for me. As an Emma fan, I am so sad to see the writers completely butchering her like that. I really can't believe any shippers are pleased with this episode - the immaturity shown by Neal & Hook is more like two children fighting over a prize rather than them trying to develop a relationship with a human being.

    One last thing, why is Henry such an idiot this season? He was the one who was figuring things out left and right when the curse was around but in Neverland he's believing every BS thing Pan tells him?

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  13. Fun to see Storybrooke/ Ariel & Bell/ Emma using magic. Still waiting for Henry to stop falling for what Pan says. Also, should Neal be more worried about saving Henry than impressing Emma, wouldn't that impress her anyway?

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  14. Great episode! Good pacing, and it was wonderful to get to see Storybrooke again. The Belle and Ariel scenes were cute; they will clearly make good friends. Adding another character to Storybrooke for good is unfortunate, though, when they already established characters (ie: Red, Dr. Whale) and have completely neglected them.



    I only wish it was more of a surprise when it was revealed that it was Wendy in the cage and her brothers in Storybrooke as I expected it was all along, but that was just me. I had an inkling, so it didn't result in the "OMG!" I'm sure it had for other viewers.


    The whole Emma/Neal/Hook triangle is just a mess and annoying and I don't care for what it's doing to the characters individually now.


    Can't wait for next week and I hope the episodes continue getting better! I wonder if we'll see Tiger Lily in skull cave?

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  15. Considering the love triangle story i think Emma came off goo because she made it clear all she wanted was henry. I think neal was good this epsiode too except for in the cave when him and hook where fighting over a lighter. However this episode really ruined the progress they had made with hooks character. Hook was only concerned with impressing emma. They built this relationship where hook wanted to be belfire's father and cared so much about him and in this episode they made it so Hook cared nothing about belfire.

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  16. The writer`s have straight up forgotten that they spent the season finale making Baelfire Hook`s motivation for helping save Henry. I love Hook, but he is coming across awfully. It`s really frustrating.

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  17. ugh, Henry. Will I ever like this kid?

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  18. fantastic ep! Loved Belle and Ariel teaming up and the quick revisit to SB. I don't care for triangles, but this one for now serves story well and I appreciate Emma telling them both that Henry is the most important man in her life so they need to chill for now. The only part that continues to feel thin is that Henry still seems to buy into everything that Pan says so easily. he had to know that he was led to Wendy, when Felix so conveniently "drops" the sack of stuff right in front of the cave... too obvious looking forward to next week's ep

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  19. Wait, is Skeletor the new baddie? who else can live in that Skull rock.

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  20. I ask myself the same question every time i see him

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  21. I know he's so silly! As if he could really 'eavesdrop' on Pan.

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  22. How I lolled at Hook and Neal during the lighter fight. But you know, maybe that's what the writers want! Like I'm sure they don't want us to take this triangle thing seriously...No one can take Neal and Hook seriously right now. I think they haven't butchered Emma. She chose Henry, and she's calling those two on their stupidity. Pretty Emma things to do. Right now they're keeping the focus on Emma the Mother, how they deal with the triangle post Neverland will show how true the writers stay to their characters.

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  23. I didn't think I would like Ariel thaaaat much since I was never a Disney fan. But she totally won me over in this episode! I hope we get to see a lot more of her!!

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  24. Agree about the "triangle." I hate the idea overall, but especially right now when Emma is focused on trying to save Henry. Hook came across as desperate to get her attention. Neal for the most part seemed to be trying to focus on what they needed to do with getting the Shadow, until they got into it over the stupid lighter in the Hollow.

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  25. OK, for the last few weeks, you have ragged on the 'triangle'. For the love of god, this IS how real life is. 6 Year olds? this is how guys act when faced with a situation such as this. I'm not gonna debate points with you now, but really, either stop posting in every goddamn once thread about how you dislike this, or GET THE FUCK OVER IT, and except that other people do like this triangle. For the love of god, you sound like this personally affects your life. IT"S A T.V. Show. Jesus.

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  26. God, your so jaded, its pathetic.

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  27. I really enjoyed the episode. I love their take on Ariel and I still really enjoy Neverland.
    The only bit that annoyed me was Snow and Charming. After a whole scene of Snow saying it is her job to make sure Emma no longer feels like an orphan, she is willing to just give up her daughter and her grandson so she can stay with Charming. I am not saying that she shouldn't stay with Charming or that she has to go back with Emma but that is something I thought they should have at least addressed slightly.

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  28. I don't agree with the persons opinion either, but your being pretty rude. You should respect others opinion :)

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  29. Nice nice episode. Well, it's what happens when I miss storybrooke so much.


    ++:
    1) Storybrooooooooke!! I was happy to see the dwarves, Granny, Cricket, Blue Fairy and Belle!


    2) I melted when Hook made a love declaration to Emma. I'm ashamed to admit that I'm leaning towards Captain Swan now.


    3) I think Snow and Charming's making amend is quite emotional. I am glad they didn't drag it out. Snow is so lucky to have a hot man fighting for her attention.


    4) Emma used magic on her own!


    5) Ariel and Belle working together!


    6) I'm hopeful that Ariel will find Eric.


    --:


    1) Henry


    2) Peter Pan


    Anyways, 9/10 to me.

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  30. The fact that Henry picked up that bag is the LEAST fav part of this episode. Like, God, Henry, I know you're a kid, but you're an idiot!

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  31. Hook chose to inform the members that Neal is alive, as Emma said, he chose his friend even when he knew that it might ruin his chances with Emma. He helped the members to save Neal. What more do you want?? Hook swooning over Neal because he's saved? I don't understand some of you.

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  32. I definitely agree. Just because Hook feels like he has some kind of responsibility for Neal and has to make sure he's okay, that doesn't mean that he has to give up on Emma.

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  33. To be honest if there's anything pathetic here then it's attacking some like that because of their opinion on what is, as you stressed in another post, just a tv show.

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  34. Great ep! I love everything about Storybrook (Belle/Ariel, John and Michael)

    The Charmings scene rub me in a wrong way because when you think about what Snow is saying it's clear that she would choose Charming over Emma (and Henry) and I don't like that because for me children are before everything else. But I guess that since Emma is a adult, Snow probably thinks her daugther doesn't need her.

    Rumple and Regina's scenes were short but also amazing ! and I loved that Regina is finaly making some amends (by giving Ariel the bracelet) I have the feeling that she really is triyng to be better.

    For me, Neal/Emma/Hook was the weakest point of the ep. I used to hate those ships. However, I was starting to see the potential in both of them but this ep reminds me why they are doing it wrong....

    The biggest problem for me with the Hook/Emma "couple" is the 5 days ago in canon time! Are we suppose to believe that in 5 days Hook felt madly in love with Emma and is starting to get over Milah?! 5 days ago Hook was helping Greg and Tamara destroy Storybrooke AND kill all the town people, including Emma and Henry. And 5 days later he’s all good and cute and nice and heroic and people don’t remember what he did 5 days before. He indirectly tried to kill Emma just the week before.

    Let me be clear, I love relationship that starts with "hate" (or Vilains/heroes) and then evolves into a epic love story like Spike/Buffy, Logan/Veronica, Damon/Elena or (in non-canon) Emma/Regina, Draco/Hermione etc. With CS, it could be good but they're doing it WAY too fast for my taste.

    With Neal/Emma, my biggest issue is that the writers are trying to make us believe that Neal was this big hero who would never give up on Emma when he already did (a FEW times). Again 5 days ago he was engaged to Tamara and he WAS going to marry her. But at least, Neal seems to understand what he did to Emma and I guess he's going to try to make amends. (And well, I ship Emma/Regina so it would be hypocrit of me to hate Snawfire because Neal hurt Emma before...)

    To resume a little, I think this love triangle is happening way too fast and for now it really is bad written. But kudos to Emma Fu***** Swan for putting Hook and Neal at their place (below Henry ;) )

    As for Henry, he's really acting stupid and gullible but well, he's a 11 years old kid. I work everyday with 12 years old kids and at that age they really ARE gullible :p So I won't hold it against him

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  35. You say 'jaded' and 'pathetic', I say 'want the show to be better than it is'. It's a pale shadow of what it used to be.

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  36. Maybe actually respecting Emma as something more than a prize to be won and instead as a person to be respected, who can make her own decisions without telling her she needs to choose. Especially when the life of her child is on the line.

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  37. oh yes ''abusive'' strains. selfish love interests. says who again? I smell bitter swan queener here. well you know a lot about abuse and violence. lol just go into your cave and stop trying to ruin the mood.

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  38. I don't ship anything on the show, though I'm leaning towards Outlaw Queen. I'm sorry, did I hurt your shipper feelings by not worshipping it?

    I was being nice when I said 'strains'. I really meant textbook signs of emotional abuse by an intimate partner. Any ship that starts as being kept in complete isolation as a slave with physical violence every time the woman disagrees with the man is not a ship I'm going to find healthy. When you pair that with the fact that he beat her amnesiac father almost to death, that she has to beg him to stop from killing people and that she's brainwashed into telling him he's a good man minutes after he has brutally murdered someone is pretty rough. He gave her a transfigured dead body as a token of love!

    As for selfish love interests: we literally saw Hook and Neal fighting over a lighter when Emma is trying to save her son's life.

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  39. oh, you can't hurt anyone's feelings but you always try.
    yes, yes, yes, emotional abuse. .

    ariel: rumple, belle says you have to save wendy.
    regina: f no were r not doing that.
    rumple: yes, WE DO. tell her I love her.
    emotional abuse*yawn*



    phisycal violence? seriously what show are you watching? I know you made up a lot of things to whiten regina and demonize rumple further but what your sick fantasies have to do with the ACTUAL show? SHE was following him and SHE did what she wanted (she CHOSE to go with him, and he let her go several times after that) and SHE chose him. he did nothing and he is afraid to touch her. even NOW. just leave your fantasies out of reality ok.

    just stop. I've seen it all and this is so much bs especially coming from regina worshipper. henry have to plead regina to not KILL HIS PARENTS. good mother. healthy relationship. years and years of rapings and murder in the end. yay hunter queen or whatever it's called. hypocrisy. hypocrisy overload. good you ship ouatlaw queen. they had to write a new character she didn't mess up with. yet. although I already pity him and his little son.

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  40. honestly what are you smoking?

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  41. that was all last weeks development. This week they undid it all. Instead of having Hook bond with neal or show that he's glad neal's alive they have him trying to steal emma from him. If hook cared about neal he would have taken at least a second before trying to become a thing with emma specially after hearing neal say how much he loved emma. Also if hook cared at all about emma he would have held his tongue and focused on finding henry than once she had her son back try to get a relationship.

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  42. I really don't know. I'm not gonna discuss strange musings of a clouded mind. clearly this person watches a show of their own.

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  43. I'm not going to argue, since I've noticed that debate isn't your strong point, so I'll back off. But did you bother to read the rest of my comment? I actually had a lot of positive things to say about this episode because I genuinely liked a lot of the scenes. You, on the other hand, decided to comment on the negative. I think that says a lot more about you then it does about me. I comment on it because I feel strongly, and because, you know, this is a DISCUSSION board. And I know it's a TV show, that's why I come to this site, to talk about a show I feel strongly about. But I won't "get the fuck over it" because I care and I won't stop caring until it's fixed. However, since you seemed to have noticed this trend, and instead of down voting and moving on (because, you know, it's just a TV show- didn't you get the memo?) I'll keep commenting the same thing, over and over again, just for you <3

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  44. I miss the character they were shaping him as at the end of the season. A man wracked by villainy and revenge, but saw his salvation in finally doing one the one honorable thing in his life by rescuing Henry. I didn't like how they randomly threw a brother into his backstory, which forced him to become a pirate for the stupidest reason. You reject murder by state, so you resort to... piracy? How does that make any sense? It would have made sense if he, after his abandonment, was compelled to do amoral things to survive, until these deeds reached a fever pitch and he made the jump to piracy. Also changing his motivation to come to Neverland from Baelfire to Emma? And have him look at Neal as a "rival" rather than a chance at redemption?


    Colin and Michael have such beautiful chemistry, I want to see them hash it out in a truly emotional scene; something they've been setting up since last season. I feel like Hook (and Neal- who has his own armory of emotional issues) would really benefit as characters from a scene like that. Changing for yourself is more important than changing for a woman, in my opinion.


    But who knows? We might get a scene like that in the near future. But if these scenes are meant to whet my appetite, the writers aren't doing a very good job at keeping me interested.

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  45. First, Hook fell for Emma BEFORE he knew about Neal. He already had his feelings developed. If you think it's easy to undo all that, you're greatly mistaken.


    Second, have you ever considered that Hook bonding with Neal might have happened off screen? And don't you think it's a little bit weird that Hook and Emma and the rest found Neal last epi and just bonded this epi? If he ever bonded with Neal, it should happen last epi and I'm sure it had happened.


    Third, Hook is STEALING Emma?? Emma doesn't belong to anybody for her to be stolen from.


    Fourth, Hook confessing his love for Emma is IRRELEVANT to whether or not he cares about Emma and saving Henry. That man's a pirate, he got ego. He did not even lose it a bit when he faced Rumple last season. There's a competition in front of him, of course he'd try to step in as soon as possible.

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  46. This is pretty much exactly what I wanted to say. Ditto! I'm so glad I'm not alone in this.

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  47. Yeah, that is definitely my biggest issue when it comes to Hook's character. I really liked the guy for trying to honor Baelfire's memory by saving Henry and suddenly, like a day later, it was all about Emma.

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  48. I think this is the best chapter so far.
    The Ariel/Belle team was awesome. I think it will become my favorite bromance (hoping Ariel becomes a regular!)
    Rumpel's talk with Regina was also pretty amazing! Plus, maybe Regina will find her true love now that she saw that "villains" can have a happy ending.
    Emma using the magic that Regina showed her was just too asdhfdfdssdfdhgdfgs I literally fangirled in that moment, I so wanted to see her using magic!
    And Wendy, I'm kind of disappointed she's so young, but tbh, Henry could use another kid on the set. And I'm glad to see Henry started to have more parts on the episodes, he has always been an active kid that does stuff, seeing him sitting with the lost boys and not doing anything looked kind of OOC
    And Tink and Bae, I wonder if the Hook/Neal/Emma triangle just became a square. Which I'd so enjoy watching (since I ship CaptainSwan more than SwanThief)


    Overal, I liked the chapter.

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  49. I really like Ariel. It was great to see so many of the Storybrooke residents again. Belle, the chipped cup's return, and all that magic, were all well done. Lots of great scenes, that had meaning, between the main characters again. Looking forward to the continuation of this journey.

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  50. They are going way overboard with the love triangle there, that is totally uncalled for. Besides, how come there is still no mention that 5 freaking days ago Neal was happily engaged with Tamara and proclaiming his love for her? That annoys the crap out of me. Other than that, I really liked the episode. Belle was great and I love Ariel, I was really hoping she could stick around. The show would benefit from focusing less on Snow, White, Rumple and Regina (as much as I love her), especially flashbacks wise. My two favorite episodes this year came from a Hook flashback and an Ariel flashback. I don't think that's a coincidence. Even Belle, I wish they would do more with her that is not Rumple related. We shall see. Loved seeing Wendy, there's another interesting character, and good twist that the guys were her brothers.

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  51. I agree with you for the most part. I also had issues with the Snow thing for the same reason you had, it showed her being totally willing to abandon her child, yet again. I have major issues with the Mary Margaret character in general though, she is one my least favorite aspects about the show (Snow is an awesome character, but Mary Margaret sucks). As for the love triangle, it brought down the entire episode for me too. I like Emma with Hook, they sold me this season, but you do have a fair point there of it being too soon, yeah, I have to give you that. As for Nel and Emma, I really dislike it, mainly because, as you've said, it's been 5 freaking days since we has engaged to Tamara and loving her and not caring for Emma and now he acts entitled to Emma like he has always loved her. It's ridiculous. I know I am having double standards here but I have already said you were right too. It's just annoying because it's bad writing in both cases!

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  52. I agree, Mary Margaret was really terribly written in that scene

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  53. Yes, I want Ariel back permanently too

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  54. I think it's because they cannot consistently write the story of him wanting to be a father to Neal and, at the same time, competing with him for the same woman. It sucks, but I kind of think it would be unrealistic to have both though.

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  55. I loved Ariel and Belle too, it's just a pitty that Red couldn't join them as well, that would have been the best team ever

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  56. Agree! Only having Red there would have made it more perfect!

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