Ay Game changer, I didn't want to believe it but I knew William would mean trouble for Nathan and Audrey sucks but I'm totally intrigued as usual I have no idea where they're going with this
Wow. Pretty sure everyone suspected William was bad news, but now we know for sure. I'm interested to find out what we learn about Audrey through this- personally I don't think she was ever really in love with him, but we'll see. I actually liked seeing everyone go crazy-interesting that both Jennifer and Nathan went to jealousy. The scene where they're all pointing guns and shouting at each other was great.
So my crazy theory is that William was the original "handler"/"Agent Howard" of the barn. He became obsessed and/or fell in the love with the Original personality; either the Original didn't return his feelings or it was forbidden that they could have a relationship. Therefore he was exiled from the barn but managed to come back once Howard was killed. Now his sole mission is to make Audrey HIS again!
And now that whole "weight in your heart" comment makes perfect sense. William was talking about himself.
This episode was one of the biggest mind fucks I have ever witnessed on a TV show. I love when a show does this to me but I'm still trying to piece everything together XD
The plot twist with William was insane. I definitely did not see him to be connected with the original personality at all. I believe he is also the original agent/handler of the barn. Gah! I can't wait until we get concrete information on William and the two barn guys because I am totally confused.
Things are going to get very interesting as we are coming to a close on season 4.
Hmm... So, William and Audrey are something like immortal beings (aliens?) who have been trapped in that barn (exciled to earth?) for ages and Audrey probably has been punished with memory loss for consorting with mortal humans (out of compassion for their troubles?). The have been plots before that went like that. The only example that occurs to me offhand, however, is the movie, Hancock.
I was hoping William wouldn't be evil, but I kinda like him evil. As weird as that sounds. The next few episodes of the season should be VERY interesting. Especially with the original Audrey and William's relationship.
This is the first episode of the season I didn't like at all. I've reached my limit on major plot points that revolve around Audrey's love life. Enough already.
So, in the ancient times there was a man, may be a supernatural, like a god, or he just got a curse/gift from god, or he was some natural fluctuation. And he could affect people and give them curses, which can be transferred to next generation. He had a girl/wife/lover, who find out about his extracurricular activities (like giving curses to people), hated him for that and become a savior. A guess the 25 years of her staying in the barn was the condition of him never to be returned - like she was his prisoner or something. She goes out, helps people, finds a love, recharged, and goes back to barn to keep the bad guy away. Barn is destroyed and the Great Evil, who started all of this, is out.
Ok, they're humans, then -- but perhaps from another time or dimension -- and they've somehow been exciled to live between the worlds in that structure that appears to us as a barn. Every 27 years, that barn comes close enough to become visible in our dimension. However, the troubles begin well before then, as the barn is drawing closer. The troubles coud be due to some sort of "leakage" from the barn that adversely affects "normal" humans (e.g., like radiation). So, driven by guilt and compassion, Audrey jumps across the void a couple of years before the barn actually arrives to try to alleviate the problems that the barn itself is causing by its mere vicinity to haven. How's that? :)
William is the new "Jordan" the character you love to hate. And trust me, after this episode I REALLY hate him! I knew I would...I hated him from go. LOL!
What an interesting turn of events that William brings! I have so many queries and theoretical possibilities running through my mind. - Is Audrey's original persona actually one of The Barn's supernatural people too? - Plus, I bet she and William were probably childhood friends or something, and he loved (and got obsessed over) her, but she never really loved him in that way. I agree with others that Agent Howard was one of the more benevolent barn occupants, and William and his sidekicks escaped the barn when Agent Howard was killed. - I wonder if The Barn people brought The Troubles to Haven as some sort of experiment, or punishment, or something, but Audrey's original persona loved the "normal" humans and wanted to help them, thus becoming the one thing that is helping the Troubled through the years.
- Also, after the hints from the previous episodes, I'm thinking that Jennifer is Audrey's daughter (probably that of one of Audrey's previous personalities).
I am so looking forward to the rest of this story. I'd like to see if I'm anywhere close, or what other cool stuff the writers come up with.
Jordan was an annoying brat-ish bitch. William - hot bad stranger turned bad guy (his thinking really reminds me of Walter White). There is the difference.
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That was great! That Trouble was really creepy. And LOL at all the Trouble-affected people in the same building. That was absolutely hilarious.
ReplyDeleteThe first Duke/Jennifer scene was funny and I thought it was adorable he immediately went to her after it was over.
Wow, William is terrifying. I'm guessing he is now the boyfriend or husband of the first, original personality. I liked that twist!
Can't believe I didn't see it coming that the gunshot was one of the creepy barn guys. It's so obvious now.
I loved that episode and cannot wait until next week!
That twist about William & Audrey... WOW! Did nit see that coming. I loved that episode and cannot wait until next week!!!
ReplyDeleteAy Game changer, I didn't want to believe it but I knew William would mean trouble for Nathan and Audrey sucks but I'm totally intrigued as usual I have no idea where they're going with this
ReplyDeleteWow. Pretty sure everyone suspected William was bad news, but now we know for sure. I'm interested to find out what we learn about Audrey through this- personally I don't think she was ever really in love with him, but we'll see.
ReplyDeleteI actually liked seeing everyone go crazy-interesting that both Jennifer and Nathan went to jealousy. The scene where they're all pointing guns and shouting at each other was great.
So my crazy theory is that William was the original "handler"/"Agent Howard" of the barn. He became obsessed and/or fell in the love with the Original personality; either the Original didn't return his feelings or it was forbidden that they could have a relationship. Therefore he was exiled from the barn but managed to come back once Howard was killed. Now his sole mission is to make Audrey HIS again!
ReplyDeleteAnd now that whole "weight in your heart" comment makes perfect sense. William was talking about himself.
Super excited for the remaining episodes : )
This episode was one of the biggest mind fucks I have ever witnessed on a TV show. I love when a show does this to me but I'm still trying to piece everything together XD
ReplyDeleteThe plot twist with William was insane. I definitely did not see him to be connected with the original personality at all. I believe he is also the original agent/handler of the barn. Gah! I can't wait until we get concrete information on William and the two barn guys because I am totally confused.
Things are going to get very interesting as we are coming to a close on season 4.
not bad, interesting
ReplyDeleteAlways a delight.
ReplyDeletecan't wait to see William and original Audrey together
ReplyDeleteI'm glad William is a bad guy - we didn't need any more good guys - I like the gang just as they are.
ReplyDeleteHmm... So, William and Audrey are something like immortal beings (aliens?) who have been trapped in that barn (exciled to earth?) for ages and Audrey probably has been punished with memory loss for consorting with mortal humans (out of compassion for their troubles?). The have been plots before that went like that. The only example that occurs to me offhand, however, is the movie, Hancock.
ReplyDeleteI donno if anyone else felt this, but with this episode I felt like it may seem Audrey may be from outer space (alien) o.o
ReplyDeleteI was hoping William wouldn't be evil, but I kinda like him evil. As weird as that sounds. The next few episodes of the season should be VERY interesting. Especially with the original Audrey and William's relationship.
ReplyDeleteBUt Howard told us she's Human. I hope she's not an alien!!!
ReplyDeleteOMG... that was one of the wackiest Haven episodes ever. My head's still spinning!!!
ReplyDeleteThis is the first episode of the season I didn't like at all. I've reached my limit on major plot points that revolve around Audrey's love life. Enough already.
ReplyDeleteSo, in the ancient times there was a man, may be a supernatural, like a god, or he just got a curse/gift from god, or he was some natural fluctuation. And he could affect people and give them curses, which can be transferred to next generation. He had a girl/wife/lover, who find out about his extracurricular activities (like giving curses to people), hated him for that and become a savior. A guess the 25 years of her staying in the barn was the condition of him never to be returned - like she was his prisoner or something. She goes out, helps people, finds a love, recharged, and goes back to barn to keep the bad guy away. Barn is destroyed and the Great Evil, who started all of this, is out.
ReplyDeleteSomething like this
Ok, they're humans, then -- but perhaps from another time or dimension -- and they've somehow been exciled to live between the worlds in that structure that appears to us as a barn. Every 27 years, that barn comes close enough to become visible in our dimension. However, the troubles begin well before then, as the barn is drawing closer. The troubles coud be due to some sort of "leakage" from the barn that adversely affects "normal" humans (e.g., like radiation). So, driven by guilt and compassion, Audrey jumps across the void a couple of years before the barn actually arrives to try to alleviate the problems that the barn itself is causing by its mere vicinity to haven. How's that? :)
ReplyDeleteHaha they're both good theories. Let's see. Knowing them, we'll get a few answers and then even bigger questions by the time this seasons over!
ReplyDeleteOoh, I love this theory.
ReplyDeleteWilliam is the new "Jordan" the character you love to hate. And trust me, after this episode I REALLY hate him! I knew I would...I hated him from go. LOL!
ReplyDeleteye.......... nope. didnt like Jordan. At all. Hated her, was annoyed with her, was relieved when she died.
ReplyDeleteWhat an interesting turn of events that William brings! I have so many queries and theoretical possibilities running through my mind.
ReplyDelete- Is Audrey's original persona actually one of The Barn's supernatural people too?
- Plus, I bet she and William were probably childhood friends or something, and he loved (and got obsessed over) her, but she never really loved him in that way. I agree with others that Agent Howard was one of the more benevolent barn occupants, and William and his sidekicks escaped the barn when Agent Howard was killed.
- I wonder if The Barn people brought The Troubles to Haven as some sort of experiment, or punishment, or something, but Audrey's original persona loved the "normal" humans and wanted to help them, thus becoming the one thing that is helping the Troubled through the years.
- Also, after the hints from the previous episodes, I'm thinking that Jennifer is Audrey's daughter (probably that of one of Audrey's previous personalities).
I am so looking forward to the rest of this story. I'd like to see if I'm anywhere close, or what other cool stuff the writers come up with.
Jordan was an annoying brat-ish bitch. William - hot bad stranger turned bad guy (his thinking really reminds me of Walter White). There is the difference.
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