This was an awesome episode filled with everything that makes this show so great - action ,humor, great guest stars, and of course the incredible James Spader spitting Red-isms!!
Red was just bad ass when Ressler got shot! The mild mannered man just broke into full-on lethal special operator mode and literally pulled Ressler's ass out of danger! XD
I think this may have been some of the best acting I've seen from Diego Klatinoff. Normally I find him a bit flat, but he excelled playing opposite Red in the box.
I so miss seeing Ritchie Coster on my TV every week! The man needs to be on more shows and maybe find himself a new regular gig! The man can play ANYTHING and he can play anything well! *Side note* Coster for Randall Tarly!
I was a bit let down by how easily the black site was taken down by Anslo Garrick and his men. TV does this a lot and I guess I have come to accept it, but I never enjoy it! XD
Dammit! I loved Luli! I loved Dembe too! Red's gonna make Garrick pay... Oh yes.
Even tho Red is THE reason to watch this show and he was particularly superb in this ep, I couldn't help to go all "hell's yeah!" Anytime Keen showed up in the screen; the Die Hard parallels where just so blatant I just couldn't help just get soaked on 'em.
Klatenhoff really showed his chops; now we know his "flatness" is completely intentional; and I gotta say I liked his take on the "uber stoic suit", he was believable as a human being despise his serious portrayal. But yeah, kudos on all that agonizing on the table!
OMG what an episode I cannot believe they left us hanging like that. Blacklist is definitely the best new show of the season. Anyone feel like they were trying to emulate Linda Hamilton when they had Keen but on the vest. I can't quite get over how battle ready Red was, I mean here is this older gentleman in tailored suits and BAM full on soldier. The last scene was so heart wrenching you really saw Red as a normal human, a friend and a brother in arms. I'm gutted they were both killed I'd really hoped we would have got a bit more back story with the pair. It was an amazing episode and I am dying to watch the next one.
Another great episode, I was just very taken aback at all the violence! Not that I mind that - it was simply unexpected given past episodes. Now I understand the first "viewer discretion is advised" that preceded the ep!
I've loved every episode of this so far, and I am sure when this is completed I'll like this one too....but for now, I was a bit underwhelmed. Maybe it was too soon in the series for a 2 parter. Those are supposed to be for major moments in a series, not a 7th or 8th episode into a 22-24 episode 1st season. The thing I really hope comes of the 2nd part is, a major revenge by Red on the guy who killed his bodyguard. If Keen or anyone else takes the guy down, I'll be a bit disappointed.
Thanks for the link! Level of danger (or level of Red's hatred for the person listed) is my working hypothesis, for the moment. Remember how Red made fun of the FBI's most-wanted list, in the first episode? I think this is his personal -- improved -- version of that list. The higher up a person is on that list, the more Red would like to have them eliminated.
Could be, but the highest number so far was #161 The Stewmaker. Red seemed to have a very personal connection to him if that was in fact a photo of his daughter in the Stewmaker's keepsake photo album...
I would think that would make him fairly high up on Red's kill... Maybe it was not a photo of his daughter and it was less personal than I took it?
Maybe Red isn't as self-serving a character as you think he is. He does, after all, seem to be capable of genuinely caring for other people -- and not just his own people, as this episode showed. Maybe he is also capable of separating his own feelings from the objective threat that a villain poses to society, as a whole. Remember that the Stewmaker hadn't actually killed anyone before his attempt to kill Lizzie. The highest blacklister previous to this episode, however, was a geneticist who was conceivably capable of engineering a virus that could start a world-wide pandemic. And as soon as the Stewmaker showed that he was branching out into murder itself, Red killed him without hesitation.
I think that this episode is a big shift in the plot: as the threat is literally inside instead of somewhere near, all of the characters are forced to step out of their comfort zone and take a major leap into the unknown. We see a whole new side of Red, a fighter and a caretaker all in once, we got to see a more human and less robotic flat Ressler; we also see characters such as Cooper and CIA Agent Malik somehow submissive as they are outnumbered and the odds are not in their favor (Cooper tried to negotiate and fail); even the IT Guy, Aram, is holding a gun and trying to fix thing himself in the middle of this mayhem. And we see Lizzie go all Die Hard which I found refreshing (the cool profiler went wild!), she's afraid but she keeps going. Now, after the death of his two friends (blame the FBI, they didn't listen Red went they should have), Red might be the one who needs help through the grieving process ---assuming that he is saved first (I think that Lizzie is going to save him like he once did with the Stewmaker) and everything goes back to "normal". So, this was a great episode. I can't wait to see the next one. I don't like the idea of waiting for the series to return. I hate breaks. Specially during my summer.
the best episode so far, it was so intense and so good, i got pissed that the guy Anslo only killed Red assistants it was kind of unnfair, he should`ve killed 1 and 1 to prove Harold he is willing to do anything to get to Red.. Now Red is going to be pissed !
I think Cooper knows if he opens the box Anslo will simply kill them all anyway. I don't see him as particularly interested in letting any of them walk away. His main target is Red but he's taken down all others with lethal force. Their best chance of survival is refusing to open the box.
like i said i agree. i just have a bad feeling Red won't see it quite that way. i was wondering if Cooper was the mole, but i now i doubt it as he would have given him the code, able to hide the real reason as 'hey he was killing people'. all that's certain is Red's wrath, wherever it points and lands, will be the stuff of legends.
I read somewhere that Red rescued Dembe from the Eberhardt cartel run by Flroiana Campo (Isabella Rossellini) in Episode 1x02 The Freelancer. The producers said that the scar Dembe has is from Floriana. That was something I had not caught on the show itself honestly.
I winder if Luli had a similar backstory of being rescued by Red from some dire situation. For that matter, if all of Red's approved security detail applicants all had similar histories like that!
I had a thought on my second viewing.. Some people have commented on the shape of Liz's scar being similar to the symbol on Tom's box, I wonder if that is a symbol of Red's adversary or maybe Red himself?
If her dad had a box or a ring with the same symbol (or maybe the maker's mark on a toy) during the fire it could become almost a branding iron if little Lizzie reached out and touched it.
Thanks. I just commented about the scar above...fun timing! XD
I read about the scar and box similarities on Seriable weeks ago I know, but it was interesting to see some one bring it up and the producers NOT shoot it down as reading too much into it!
Clearly one of the best well acted TV shows to grace my TV screen in a long time. Spader and cast knock it out of the park every week. James Spader you are a force to be reckoned with. That man is intense, funny, dramatic and he makes me hold my breath when he speaks. Fabulous show.
It was only episode 9, at best, that's 2 eps from a mid-season finale...and its still only November, the probably have 2-3 more eps before Christmas breaks.
Nope next week's episode is the last one before Xmas I'm afraid. Wish it were more but we are going to have to wait to see how Red and Co cope with the fallout.
I know right? I can catch symbols or numbers and ifI think they may be important I will make a screencap and look later, but noticing the scar is beyond my ken! XD
That was a fantastic episode. I was hoping we'd get to see a blacklisted criminal for more than a single episode but I didn't expect it to happen this soon. Can't wait for next week!
I found it hilarious that Red was better than Ressler at special ops mode, since Red managed to fend off assault teams AND saved Ressler in the process. HA! Red's so awesome.
Well, Reddington has military training and was about to become admiral before he went criminal on everybody, and we don't know if Ressler just have the -apparently mediocre (lol)- FBI training.
Is that so? I didn't remember the military training stuff about Red. Thanks for the info.! Yeah, Ressler was a mall cop compared to Red in that scene. HA! It was awesome.
It's very early in the pilot, when he just surrendered to the FBI. Harold comes in, sees him in the box, he starts reading Red's dossier and people starts reciting every known fact about him.
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…Intense episode. Very different from past episodes, but good nonetheless.
ReplyDeleteWow!
ReplyDeleteJust wow!
This was an awesome episode filled with everything that makes this show so great - action ,humor, great guest stars, and of course the incredible James Spader spitting Red-isms!!
Red was just bad ass when Ressler got shot! The mild mannered man just broke into full-on lethal special operator mode and literally pulled Ressler's ass out of danger! XD
I think this may have been some of the best acting I've seen from Diego Klatinoff. Normally I find him a bit flat, but he excelled playing opposite Red in the box.
I so miss seeing Ritchie Coster on my TV every week!
The man needs to be on more shows and maybe find himself a new regular gig! The man can play ANYTHING and he can play anything well!
*Side note*
Coster for Randall Tarly!
I was a bit let down by how easily the black site was taken down by Anslo Garrick and his men. TV does this a lot and I guess I have come to accept it, but I never enjoy it! XD
Dammit!
I loved Luli!
I loved Dembe too!
Red's gonna make Garrick pay... Oh yes.
My heart was pounding throughout this episode... Can't wait for next week!!!
ReplyDeletewow two of Red associate are dead.....Red will save the day and get revenge
ReplyDeleteThe promo did indicate a game changer I believe and wow this is real change
ReplyDeleteEven tho Red is THE reason to watch this show and he was particularly superb in this ep, I couldn't help to go all "hell's yeah!" Anytime Keen showed up in the screen; the Die Hard parallels where just so blatant I just couldn't help just get soaked on 'em.
ReplyDeleteKlatenhoff really showed his chops; now we know his "flatness" is completely intentional; and I gotta say I liked his take on the "uber stoic suit", he was believable as a human being despise his serious portrayal. But yeah, kudos on all that agonizing on the table!
OMG what an episode I cannot believe they left us hanging like that. Blacklist is definitely the best new show of the season. Anyone feel like they were trying to emulate Linda Hamilton when they had Keen but on the vest.
ReplyDeleteI can't quite get over how battle ready Red was, I mean here is this older gentleman in tailored suits and BAM full on soldier.
The last scene was so heart wrenching you really saw Red as a normal human, a friend and a brother in arms. I'm gutted they were both killed I'd really hoped we would have got a bit more back story with the pair.
It was an amazing episode and I am dying to watch the next one.
Another great episode, I was just very taken aback at all the violence! Not that I mind that - it was simply unexpected given past episodes. Now I understand the first "viewer discretion is advised" that preceded the ep!
ReplyDeleteI've loved every episode of this so far, and I am sure when this is completed I'll like this one too....but for now, I was a bit underwhelmed.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it was too soon in the series for a 2 parter. Those are supposed to be for major moments in a series, not a 7th or 8th episode into a 22-24 episode 1st season.
The thing I really hope comes of the 2nd part is, a major revenge by Red on the guy who killed his bodyguard. If Keen or anyone else takes the guy down, I'll be a bit disappointed.
I have just one quedstion: If Anslo Garrick ist number 16 on the Blacklist, does that mean there are 15 who are badder than he is?
ReplyDeleteAs far as I know, no one has figured out exactly how Red numbered the criminals on his Blacklist.
ReplyDeleteIt does not appear to be based on the order he met them, how well he knows them, alphabetically, or their level of danger.... So who knows!
Roco at Seriable.com has a nice article breaking down the numbers so far.
http://seriable.com/blacklist-numbers-reason-random/
Thanks for the link! Level of danger (or level of Red's hatred for the person listed) is my working hypothesis, for the moment. Remember how Red made fun of the FBI's most-wanted list, in the first episode? I think this is his personal -- improved -- version of that list. The higher up a person is on that list, the more Red would like to have them eliminated.
ReplyDeleteCould be, but the highest number so far was #161 The Stewmaker. Red seemed to have a very personal connection to him if that was in fact a photo of his daughter in the Stewmaker's keepsake photo album...
ReplyDeleteI would think that would make him fairly high up on Red's kill...
Maybe it was not a photo of his daughter and it was less personal than I took it?
Maybe Red isn't as self-serving a character as you think he is. He does, after all, seem to be capable of genuinely caring for other people -- and not just his own people, as this episode showed. Maybe he is also capable of separating his own feelings from the objective threat that a villain poses to society, as a whole. Remember that the Stewmaker hadn't actually killed anyone before his attempt to kill Lizzie. The highest blacklister previous to this episode, however, was a geneticist who was conceivably capable of engineering a virus that could start a world-wide pandemic. And as soon as the Stewmaker showed that he was branching out into murder itself, Red killed him without hesitation.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely flawless! I enjoyed watching Lizzie 100x more now she's in a brave and determined frame of mind! I hope part 2 is jus as good!
ReplyDeleteWords fail me here. How good?!
ReplyDeleteI think that this episode is a big shift in the plot: as the threat is literally inside instead of somewhere near, all of the characters are forced to step out of their comfort zone and take a major leap into the unknown. We see a whole new side of Red, a fighter and a caretaker all in once, we got to see a more human and less robotic flat Ressler; we also see characters such as Cooper and CIA Agent Malik somehow submissive as they are outnumbered and the odds are not in their favor (Cooper tried to negotiate and fail); even the IT Guy, Aram, is holding a gun and trying to fix thing himself in the middle of this mayhem. And we see Lizzie go all Die Hard which I found refreshing (the cool profiler went wild!), she's afraid but she keeps going. Now, after the death of his two friends (blame the FBI, they didn't listen Red went they should have), Red might be the one who needs help through the grieving process ---assuming that he is saved first (I think that Lizzie is going to save him like he once did with the Stewmaker) and everything goes back to "normal". So, this was a great episode. I can't wait to see the next one. I don't like the idea of waiting for the series to return. I hate breaks. Specially during my summer.
ReplyDeleteJust wow. And wow again. All sorts of wow. This was mind blowing.
ReplyDeleteOh man this show is outstanding! Just watched it and i'm at a loss for words...
ReplyDeletethe best episode so far, it was so intense and so good, i got pissed that the guy Anslo only killed Red assistants it was kind of unnfair, he should`ve killed 1 and 1 to prove Harold he is willing to do anything to get to Red.. Now Red is going to be pissed !
ReplyDeleteI think Cooper knows if he opens the box Anslo will simply kill them all anyway. I don't see him as particularly interested in letting any of them walk away. His main target is Red but he's taken down all others with lethal force. Their best chance of survival is refusing to open the box.
ReplyDeleteBoth men in that box deserve nominations. One of the best scenes in a television show in a while. Very moving.
ReplyDeletelike i said i agree. i just have a bad feeling Red won't see it quite that way. i was wondering if Cooper was the mole, but i now i doubt it as he would have given him the code, able to hide the real reason as 'hey he was killing people'. all that's certain is Red's wrath, wherever it points and lands, will be the stuff of legends.
ReplyDeleteI read somewhere that Red rescued Dembe from the Eberhardt cartel run by Flroiana Campo (Isabella Rossellini) in Episode 1x02 The Freelancer. The producers said that the scar Dembe has is from Floriana. That was something I had not caught on the show itself honestly.
ReplyDeleteI winder if Luli had a similar backstory of being rescued by Red from some dire situation. For that matter, if all of Red's approved security detail applicants all had similar histories like that!
You read about Dembe in the TV Guide article. There's also a very interesting question in there about Lizzie's scar.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.tvguide.com/News/Blacklist-Burning-Questions-Anslo-Garrick-1073830.aspx
I had a thought on my second viewing..
ReplyDeleteSome people have commented on the shape of Liz's scar being similar to the symbol on Tom's box, I wonder if that is a symbol of Red's adversary or maybe Red himself?
If her dad had a box or a ring with the same symbol (or maybe the maker's mark on a toy) during the fire it could become almost a branding iron if little Lizzie reached out and touched it.
Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI just commented about the scar above...fun timing! XD
I read about the scar and box similarities on Seriable weeks ago I know, but it was interesting to see some one bring it up and the producers NOT shoot it down as reading too much into it!
Fun stuff. It's great how much detail and how many Easter eggs they're dropping into a procedural.
ReplyDeleteYeah it is!
ReplyDeleteThat level of detail is what separates The Blacklist (and maybe Person of Interest) from most other procedurals on TV.
Clearly one of the best well acted TV shows to grace my TV screen in a long time. Spader and cast knock it out of the park every week. James Spader you are a force to be reckoned with. That man is intense, funny, dramatic and he makes me hold my breath when he speaks. Fabulous show.
ReplyDeleteOh yes. I agree totally.
ReplyDeleteIt was only episode 9, at best, that's 2 eps from a mid-season finale...and its still only November, the probably have 2-3 more eps before Christmas breaks.
ReplyDeleteNope next week's episode is the last one before Xmas I'm afraid. Wish it were more but we are going to have to wait to see how Red and Co cope with the fallout.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't a death chant. That was Surah Ikhlas from the Quran. Ikhlas mean Sincerity in Arabic. I assume Dembe is a Muslim.
ReplyDeleteHow do people notice these things?
ReplyDeleteI know right?
ReplyDeleteI can catch symbols or numbers and ifI think they may be important I will make a screencap and look later, but noticing the scar is beyond my ken! XD
oh nifty. thx for the info:)
ReplyDeleteThat was a fantastic episode. I was hoping we'd get to see a blacklisted criminal for more than a single episode but I didn't expect it to happen this soon. Can't wait for next week!
ReplyDeleteI found it hilarious that Red was better than Ressler at special ops mode, since Red managed to fend off assault teams AND saved Ressler in the process. HA! Red's so awesome.
ReplyDeleteWell, Reddington has military training and was about to become admiral before he went criminal on everybody, and we don't know if Ressler just have the -apparently mediocre (lol)- FBI training.
ReplyDeleteIs that so? I didn't remember the military training stuff about Red. Thanks for the info.! Yeah, Ressler was a mall cop compared to Red in that scene. HA! It was awesome.
ReplyDeleteIt's very early in the pilot, when he just surrendered to the FBI. Harold comes in, sees him in the box, he starts reading Red's dossier and people starts reciting every known fact about him.
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