It won't be Neal. They just had everyone thinks he's dead. Neither Hook or Neal are going anywhere with this triangle just getting started. It won't be anyone in main cast.
Even though I am not a shipper and I am not rooting for Neal to die, his is the death that would make more sense to me because it would be powerful enough to affect a lot of people.
I have been thinking for a couple of episodes now that I had the feeling his character was going to be killed off... I don't know specifically why...but it just seemed that with his death:
a) he could sacrifice himself to save Henry and/or Emma and try to make up to them his absence through one last heroic gesture;
b) he could sacrifice himself for David to be able to leave Neverland, because David would be able to provide not only love, but a stable family and father figure not only to Emma, but also to Henry (Neal isn't exactly the best fatherly figure and he probably knows it);
b) Gold's "undoing" doesn't really need to be Gold's death, it could be the death of the person he loves the most, which would push him into a downward spiral (great premise for the next season);
Yeah I have yet to FULLY catch up on season 2, only watched it sporadically. This season has been somewhat interesting but I've noticed in the past two episodes, Hook has become the most interesting character for me. I like his development a lot and the actor is just really good. For some reason Henry in puberty is not very charming and while I can appreciate the darker tone this season, Pan is just such a little biznatch I want someone to make him WEEP. He needs to be gone soon.
I think it'll be Tinkerbelle..probably during her flashback episode with Pan and during the present make her die while Pan is watching to make it painful.
No, it would show that he only survived because his fate was to do one last thing: help save his son and whatever else the writers want to, but that his death was already sealed. He lived just enough to complete his "mission". It wouldn't be a repeat storyline because he would actually die and those close to him would suffer even more because they would be mourning him for a second time. It would only be a repeated storyline if everyone though he was dead again and he survived.
I doubt that it'll be Snow, Charming, Emma, Neal Hook. Seeing as Meghan has another show now, it could be Ruby so that they have a story to explain her absence. Granny, Blue Fairy, and Tinkerbell were all spotted filming the other day so unless the death is after that, I'd say that they're all safe. They 'killed Archie last year so I doubt that they'll kill him again. I doubt that Geppetto would be missed much so it could be him (and it wouldn't have too much impact on the story.
really i ,never thought of that when i heared undoing and now that i read your theorie, it could make sense ^^ beside's the dagger, rumple's greatest weakness is his own son.+ neal's death would be devastating not just for him, but a lot of people: emma, henry and hook
Some ppl have mentioned before that maybe Hook would sacrifice himself, but I'd hate to see him do that! He's one of my favorite characters all shipping aside.
No regular cast member will die anytime soon(if at all).So,Snow,Charming,Hook and Neal are out.
When I read about it they said it was a beloved character.Which still doesn't tell us much... Of the options left,the most impact would be Ruby or Archie,since we know them better.My money is on Archie on this one.He's a very positive presence for a lot of characters,even if we don't see him as often as we used to.And if Pan is responsible,it'll make sense to have him kill a fundamentally "good" character. Could also be Geppetto or Granny,but while it'll be sad,personally I won't be terribly affected. And I wouldn't care less if the Blue Fairy died.The actress is lovely,but I can't stand the character.
Death in fantasy and sci-fi shows is not always final (you can make a drinking game of all the times Sam and Dean die on Supernatural, or Daniel Jackson on Stargate SG-1 etc.)
So with that in mind, my guess would be Charming dies in Neverland, but Henry believes he can be brought back to life (or it could be Emma or Snow believing). Anything is possible in Neverland if you believe it is.
It's not gonna be Hook.And it doesn't have to do with popularity.It would make zero sense for him to die right now,when they're making so much effort to develop both his character and his relationship with Emma.Personally,I think Hook will be there for the whole run. Plus,Colin moved his family in Vancouver during the summer.He's not going anywhere.
I love most of the characters on this show, but there are very few that I would actually miss if they were killed off. Thank God Regina is not on this list!
I think it's going to be Hook because they seem to be wrapping up Neverland in this batch of episodes, so his mythological journey will probably be over and all that will be left for him is character development. Everyone really likes him at this point, but he's not why the tune in. The loss would trigger a lot of audience emotion but would not change the show too much.
Charming and Snow might be left in Neverland, so I don't mind if they stay alive. Neal is essential to the love triangle, his death (after reuniting with Emma again) makes no sense. Ruby will probably appear in the second half of the season. Gepetto would be kind of cruel... My vote is Archie. They have no more idea for the character and he has already 'died' once, and the fans were kind of cool with that (I mean, imagine what would happen if Rumple died).
Oh, yeah, I had forgotten the complexity of the feelings Hook sure has for Neal/Baelfire: - as Mila's son, he would want to protect him and be his father figure; - as Rumple's son he would want to use him as a way to get back at Rumple; - as a love interest to Emma, Hook wants him out of the way, but with a guilty heart because of their (Bae/Hook) past; - the guilt of handing over a boy to the evil Peter Pan to avoid facing his attacks (not the noble thing to do and surely not what he would have done prior to his brother's death);
hook isn't the most popular character on the show regina and rumpel are. Hook is the most controvesal character because lots of fans love him and lots of fans hate him.
There is ABSOLUTELY no way they would get rid of Hook. I would be willing to place pretty much all my money on that assumption. He's wildly popular and Eddy and Adam clearly love him.
My initial guess was Hook but one of the set producers Tweeted a photo of Pinocchio's hat on the rocks by the water, which leads me to believe it's Gepetto (or possibly Archie). I think maybe somebody dies trying to rescue August.
That depends on who you think is important. For me, Graham was definitely important. (But I do think the show has changed since then, so they might not have the balls to do it anymore.)
And I'm willing to bet that all the people down-voting anything pro-Hook are disgruntled shippers who know that I'm right. Hook IS wildly popular and "Good Form" made the ratings go up 5%.
Except that pictures on set have revealed that Hook goes back to Storybrook with the rest of the cast. Also, Colin O'Donoghue just moved his family to Vancouver. He's a main character on the show now and I don't think he's going anywhere. Thank god, too - he's so talented.
I doubt it will be Hook or Snow since they are too important. While I wish it were Charming since he can't leave Neverland and Snow could use some good dramatic material, I don't think OUAT is bold enough to kill him.
Tinkerbell would be an absolute waste this early, we just met her character.
Granny doesn't make much sense since that would be a major character arc for Ruby and she isn't returning for enough episodes for that.
Neal is possible, especially if his death is at the climax of the Neverland arc, but again, I don't think OUAT is bold enough to do so. It would rob them of their triangle and would be a little repetitive after Emma thinking he was dead.
I don't think it makes that much sense to have Ruby return just to kill her off, but if the show wants to go for the laziest yet still significant death, it would be her.
Geppetto and Archie are completely insignificant, which means it is probably one of them. I don't really care though.
Blue Fairy is the dark horse here since she has history with Tinkerbell and there may be an important enough backstory that she gets killed off. Her death would be more meaningful than Geppetto or Archie while still not too bold for the show.
So basically, hoping for Charming or Neal, but expecting Ruby or Blue Fairy if it's a bigger death or Geppetto or Archie if it's a smaller death. It's worth noting we don't know in which episode this death will occur. Ruby isn't in this upcoming week's episode if that's the one.
Wrong. Without Hook, they wouldn't have even made it to Neverland to save Henry. Everything that he's done on the island has been to help the others, and without benefit to himself. He's had an amazing arc so far about redemption and returning to the man he used to be. He's not going anywhere.
I think maybe hook or charming, but I hope not for charming . maybe neal might but they just found him. the rest I dontwant to die,amd no on red cause they said they might still have her in a few episodes
Thats not the fool poll spoiler tv. If you look at vancitys link to the poll there are alot more people on it including regina,rumple,belle,peter pan,emma,henry and others.
wait, someone's gonna die? D: please don't let it be Neal. I don't care about the ships or whatever that made people hate him (admit it!!). I just love his relationship + scenes with Rumple :'( I'll cry forever (just like Rumple) if Neal really dies.
SpoilerTV's source was probably able to reduce the choices to just those in this poll. I doubt they would post something like that without a credible source.
It's not Neal, Hook, Snow, David, Archie, Tinker Bell, Granny or Blue Fairy, as they've all been seen in the filming of 3x10, when the Nevengers get back, so unless one their death occurs afterwards, none of them is dying. And Meghan Ory said that she'll be back next year, but whether it is in flashbacks only or not, we shall see. Besides, Ruby is one of my favorites, so I voted for Geppetto.
Its Ruby, shes not on the show anymore if anyone knows that by now. The actress left since the Season began for another show she was in. Its going to be Ruby that will get killed, obviously.
As far as I know the actor didn't get injured or anything like that. IIRC the creators had said after his death that they wrote his character with the intention to kill him off. I guess you could still argue that they weren't being ballsy, if they intended to kill him from the get go, but that doesn't change the fact the audience didn't know he was going to die. I for one thought he was an interesting and charismatic character who was important to the characters on the canvas and to the plot and who had a great potential for the future, so I got pretty attached to him and got very upset when he died.
*SPOILERS* It can't be any of the Nevengers (that includes Neal) because they show up in spoiler pics for 3x10 so it has to be one of the people in Storybrooke. Belle is safe because theres spoilers pics of her in 3x10.
*SPOILERS* It can't be any of the Nevengers (that includes Neal) because they show up in spoiler pics for 3x10 so it has to be one of the people in Storybrooke. Belle is safe because there's spoiler pics of her in 3x10 too.
It would be easier to take you guys serious if you wouldn't constantly twist facts into whatever suits you and your agenda best. Episode 4 was the show's new series low in ratings because it had been up against a sports game that got the best football ratings in over a decade. That OUAT would bounce back in ratings the week after is only natural. By those standards it could even be argued that 5% is not much of a positive upwards trend again, but I wouldn't go there since the show is still pretty steady in ratings. It could be noted that episode 5 was the only episode in season 3 and the first episodes in some time for OUAT that lost a good portion of viewers during the first half of the episode.
Regina and Rumpel are the most popular characters, and Bob & Lana are the most talented actors in the cast...So I don't think Adam & Eddie would kill them so easily. Plus, the Rumbelle and SwanQueen have the biggest fanbase. Too many people (including me) would stop watching the show...So...
I don't believe it will be Neal, as we've already had the 'he's dead plot', but still it's a possibility- yet high unlikely imo.
Ruby does have a possibility seeming Meghan IS filming for another show, but would they really do that? Knowing already how unhappy people were with her being in it less, not knowing dead.
Hook. Again, there's a possibility. But I'm not going to deny that Hook does have a large fanbase. Don't know if they'd really worth the risk of losing EVEN MORE viewers - but then again. Viewers were highest at season 1, and that was without Hook, so who knows?
Tinkerbell could very well be killed off (I really hope not cause I want her to see Regina meet Robin, or at least get her wings back). So, again likely.
Geppetto, very likely, but then what will they do with August? Will they really make another child without a father?
Blue Fairy, hm. Likely. But, aha, they do like to use her for when they have plot holes, or just want to conveniently use her for stuff- she's like a back up for parts of their plot that need fixing. But they could use Tinkerbell for that, if she were to gain her magic back? So possibly.
Prince Charming. Nahh. They've made him go through the whole 'dark shade' dilemma - unless that's the reason he died, cause he left Neverland? But I can't see the writers doing that tbf
Granny, it's an unlikely possibility, i can't see how anything good, or 'dramatic', could happen out of that, except for Ruby's reaction. But if Meghan's not there to do that storyline then...
Archie, well they've already had his funeral once in fairness. Can't see them repeating it - or I hope not.
Snow White? Ahahaha, like they'd do that. They'd have to have some balls to do that.
One way to solve the triangle love is through killing off one of the men - so I think it's either Neal or Hook. But I'd be sad if it happened. But my gut tells me that it's going to be Red, which makes me terribly sad too...............
Ok I have a theory I would like to share with you (and please tell me what you think). Since we learned about the dark one's undoing I always thought in Pinocchio. August was the reason because Emma and Neal were separated, he wanted to use Rumpel's dagger to save his ass, then he was the first who tried to make Emma believed, and they are a lot of connections that can be made with him since the moment Gold was reunited with Nealfire. So! My theory goes for Geppetto (I like his character, don't get me wrong) if he dies, then Pinocchio using maybe some Blue fairy's advice (which I believe is a villain) will ended by killing Rumpelstinkin and becoming the new dark one. But don't worry, I also believe that Belle's true love kiss will save Rumpel letting him to live a free normal life with her.
Yeah if Hook dies to save one of the others, it would be the ultimate redemption for a self serving pirate. But he would also be dead ...which is kind of sad and pointless.
It would suck for sure, but the theme would be a universal definition of LOVE making up for all of his alleged wrongs by giving the characters a future to have.
Neal is another possibility, but I hope they care more about their story than pleasing the fan base. I don't think Henry deserves it.
Since Ruby is in Intelligence on CBS, I think she may be the one who dies... I just hope it won't be Tinkerbell. But we do see her in 3x11 behind the scenes photos, right?
Do you think they would take the easy way out like that and just kill part of the triangle? I sure hope not. Henry definitely doesn't deserve that. Plus I think there's still more to tell on the Rumple/Neal front.
This death happens after the spoiler pics from 3x10 so it could be anyone...
I'm conflicted because in a way I want Hook or Neal to die because since they arrived all we heard about is the love triangle, Neal/Emma and Hook/Emma....two romance that for now are poorly written and that are beginning to ruin previously good characters.
But on the other end I don't want them to die because I really like Hook, he has some amazing moments (I just wish they wouldn't change him completly for a woman he met like litteraly 2 weeks ago....but aaarrrg it's Once... Ariel's True Love is a fine looking dude she spoke to for 5 minutes :p ). And I want more Neal/Rumple so....
Anyway it's not gonna be either of them....I bet it's Geppetto
Tinkerbell - Rose McIver has a recurring role on Masters of Sex. Maybe she gets upped to series regular.
Archie - Raphael Sbarge is a main cast member of TNT's upcoming series Murder in the First. Maybe he will leave to pursue that show full time.
Ruby - Main Actress in the upcoming limited series Intelligence. Though billed as a limited series and on CBS, it is co-produced by ABC Studios so guest appearances would not be out of the question. But perhaps filming overlaps OUAT. Could be a schedule clash or something.
That's what I'm thinking, but who knows what writers will do here. I mean I've seen some pretty good arguments even in justifying Neal's death, even though I agree with your statement, because Neal is just so much more central to Rumple, Emma, and Henry than Hook is IMO.
I can't even begin to imagine my disappointment in the show if it's one of the following: Snow, Charming or Neal. Obviously from people on the list. I just... There are some lines. And for me that would be crossing it.
That's true. In terms of story potential, based on current affairs, more can be done with Neal alive than with Hook alive. Man!! I don't want anybody to die though!
I like what your thinking!!! One thing I found interesting with the way last season ended, was making August back into Pinocchio and having him loose his "August" memories, which we could look at as either freeing him of a burden and leading him back to innocence or a reset to 'the curse', and how that plays into 'The Lost Boy' Themes....
But just to clarify do you believe it's Geppetto that will become the dark one or Pinocchio?
I do think it would be nice to use those two characters in some way in relation to Peter Pan, The Dark One, and/or Neverland!
As much as I would miss Hook because he's an interesting (and pretty) character... I think it's gunna be him. Especially if Swan Thief is end game. It's like... where does Hook go from there? It's not likely he'll fall in love again honestly, after Milah and then if he loses Emma too. So the only way to go is to make things up to Baelfire and Rumple (and to do it for Emma) and rescue Henry in some dramatic way and die in the process. Finish off his redemption arc by doing the right thing for someone else.
Vancity one of the people who brought it up said on their poll list that it was someone on the list and they had a few more people. they had regina, rumple,belle, Peter Pan, Whale
Or maybe undoing means his undoing as the dark one. Someone else (maybe Regina) could become the dark one, and Rumplestiltskin would have to learn to fight his battles without magic, maybe finally overcome his coward status.
I've picked the Blue Fairy... I'd least I hope that's her. xD Anyway, nobody knows for sure if or who is going to die yet. I'd rather just continue watching and not worry about those things at all.
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First to vote for Neal, yes.
ReplyDeleteTinkerbelle?
ReplyDeleteProbably someone unimportant. Definitely not a regular.
ReplyDeleteIf its emma, snow, charming, or neal i'll be so disappointed in the show (Gold too but thank god he's not an option).
ReplyDeleteProbably tinkerbell or ruby because the actress is on another show but then she'll have to have time to guest star.
I hope it's Neal... but I'm worried it will be Hook now that he kissed Emma.
ReplyDeleteSeems like a waste, she's only been in an episode.
ReplyDeleteIt will probably be someone unimportant as this show doesn't have what it takes to kill off someone important.
ReplyDeletei think maybe August (child version obvs). I dunno, maybe he started remembering something he shouldn't
ReplyDeletePlease be Charming!!!
ReplyDeleteneal plz he is so boring
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, Ruby makes the most sense because Meghan Ory is now going to be on Intelligence...But we haven't seen Ruby in awhile so I don't know...
ReplyDeleteWon't be Hook, he's the most popular character on the show. I probably won't be bothered to watch anymore if he goes
ReplyDeleteYou mean like what and who he did in Phuket and Tahiti?
ReplyDeleteIt won't be Neal. They just had everyone thinks he's dead. Neither Hook or Neal are going anywhere with this triangle just getting started. It won't be anyone in main cast.
ReplyDeleteHook, I hope soooo
ReplyDeleteEven though I am not a shipper and I am not rooting for Neal to die, his is the death that would make more sense to me because it would be powerful enough to affect a lot of people.
ReplyDeleteI have been thinking for a couple of episodes now that I had the feeling his character was going to be killed off... I don't know specifically why...but it just seemed that with his death:
a) he could sacrifice himself to save Henry and/or Emma and try to make up to them his absence through one last heroic gesture;
b) he could sacrifice himself for David to be able to leave Neverland, because David would be able to provide not only love, but a stable family and father figure not only to Emma, but also to Henry (Neal isn't exactly the best fatherly figure and he probably knows it);
b) Gold's "undoing" doesn't really need to be Gold's death, it could be the death of the person he loves the most, which would push him into a downward spiral (great premise for the next season);
it isnt Ruby. Creators have already said she would b back sometime during the 2nd half of the season
ReplyDeleteI think Regina's the most popular.
ReplyDeleteYeah I have yet to FULLY catch up on season 2, only watched it sporadically. This season has been somewhat interesting but I've noticed in the past two episodes, Hook has become the most interesting character for me. I like his development a lot and the actor is just really good. For some reason Henry in puberty is not very charming and while I can appreciate the darker tone this season, Pan is just such a little biznatch I want someone to make him WEEP. He needs to be gone soon.
ReplyDeleteRegina and Rumple.
ReplyDeleteWhat did I say for all the downvotes? The Neal thing? lol.
ReplyDeleteThey just had Gold and Emma think he's dead. That would be a repeat storyline.
ReplyDeleteIt's not going to be Ruby - I read somewhere that she was going to be in the second half of the season after filming Intelligence.
ReplyDeleteSo, I really don't know who will be killed off - I don't think anyone from the main cast is going to killed off (so that means Neal and Hook).
Probably.
ReplyDeleteCould be because you said Hook.
ReplyDeleteI think it'll be Tinkerbelle..probably during her flashback episode with Pan and during the present make her die while Pan is watching to make it painful.
ReplyDeleteNo, it would show that he only survived because his fate was to do one last thing: help save his son and whatever else the writers want to, but that his death was already sealed. He lived just enough to complete his "mission".
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't be a repeat storyline because he would actually die and those close to him would suffer even more because they would be mourning him for a second time.
It would only be a repeated storyline if everyone though he was dead again and he survived.
This show doesn't have the brass ovaries to kill anyone important off. Remember when they "killed off" Archie? I'll believe it when I see it.
ReplyDeletehey i like your version of "undoing" ^^
ReplyDeleteI doubt that it'll be Snow, Charming, Emma, Neal Hook. Seeing as Meghan has another show now, it could be Ruby so that they have a story to explain her absence. Granny, Blue Fairy, and Tinkerbell were all spotted filming the other day so unless the death is after that, I'd say that they're all safe. They 'killed Archie last year so I doubt that they'll kill him again. I doubt that Geppetto would be missed much so it could be him (and it wouldn't have too much impact on the story.
ReplyDeleteSo my guess is either Ruby or Geppetto.
my guess and vote would be for Ruby since the actress is on another show as the female lead
ReplyDeleteyeah but well... i wouldn't be surprise if she return in flashback !later ! producers like to toy with words
ReplyDeletewell geppetto's death would be kinda pointless + where would pinocchio live ? they won't make in an orphan ^^
ReplyDeletereally i ,never thought of that when i heared undoing and now that i read your theorie, it could make sense ^^ beside's the dagger, rumple's greatest weakness is his own son.+ neal's death would be devastating not just for him, but a lot of people: emma, henry and hook
ReplyDeleteSome ppl have mentioned before that maybe Hook would sacrifice himself, but I'd hate to see him do that! He's one of my favorite characters all shipping aside.
ReplyDeleteNo regular cast member will die anytime soon(if at all).So,Snow,Charming,Hook and Neal are out.
ReplyDeleteWhen I read about it they said it was a beloved character.Which still doesn't tell us much...
Of the options left,the most impact would be Ruby or Archie,since we know them better.My money is on Archie on this one.He's a very positive presence for a lot of characters,even if we don't see him as often as we used to.And if Pan is responsible,it'll make sense to have him kill a fundamentally "good" character.
Could also be Geppetto or Granny,but while it'll be sad,personally I won't be terribly affected.
And I wouldn't care less if the Blue Fairy died.The actress is lovely,but I can't stand the character.
I hope hook dies,he's so Annoying and unecessary
ReplyDeleteDeath in fantasy and sci-fi shows is not always final (you can make a drinking game of all the times Sam and Dean die on Supernatural, or Daniel Jackson on Stargate SG-1 etc.)
ReplyDeleteSo with that in mind, my guess would be Charming dies in Neverland, but Henry believes he can be brought back to life (or it could be Emma or Snow believing). Anything is possible in Neverland if you believe it is.
It's not gonna be Hook.And it doesn't have to do with popularity.It would make zero sense for him to die right now,when they're making so much effort to develop both his character and his relationship with Emma.Personally,I think Hook will be there for the whole run.
ReplyDeletePlus,Colin moved his family in Vancouver during the summer.He's not going anywhere.
I love most of the characters on this show, but there are very few that I would actually miss if they were killed off. Thank God Regina is not on this list!
ReplyDeleteI think it's going to be Hook because they seem to be wrapping up Neverland in this batch of episodes, so his mythological journey will probably be over and all that will be left for him is character development. Everyone really likes him at this point, but he's not why the tune in. The loss would trigger a lot of audience emotion but would not change the show too much.
ReplyDeleteCharming and Snow might be left in Neverland, so I don't mind if they stay alive. Neal is essential to the love triangle, his death (after reuniting with Emma again) makes no sense. Ruby will probably appear in the second half of the season. Gepetto would be kind of cruel... My vote is Archie. They have no more idea for the character and he has already 'died' once, and the fans were kind of cool with that (I mean, imagine what would happen if Rumple died).
ReplyDeleteOh, yeah, I had forgotten the complexity of the feelings Hook sure has for Neal/Baelfire:
ReplyDelete- as Mila's son, he would want to protect him and be his father figure;
- as Rumple's son he would want to use him as a way to get back at Rumple;
- as a love interest to Emma, Hook wants him out of the way, but with a guilty heart because of their (Bae/Hook) past;
- the guilt of handing over a boy to the evil Peter Pan to avoid facing his attacks (not the noble thing to do and surely not what he would have done prior to his brother's death);
Bhahaha good joke. The show was far more popular without him.
ReplyDeleteI say hook because I think he's gonna sacrifice himself to save emma or someone she loves. It makes the most sense to me.
ReplyDeleteThey developed nothing they just rewrote his character completely. Lazy writing zero sense.
ReplyDeleteThe fans were cool with that probably because he was dead for like half of episode? By the end of cricket game we knew he was alive.
ReplyDeletehook isn't the most popular character on the show regina and rumpel are. Hook is the most controvesal character because lots of fans love him and lots of fans hate him.
ReplyDeleteThere is ABSOLUTELY no way they would get rid of Hook. I would be willing to place pretty much all my money on that assumption. He's wildly popular and Eddy and Adam clearly love him.
ReplyDeleteYou know why want neal to go i think that hook with be better with emma
ReplyDeleteWell,let's just say I disagree 100% and leave it at that.Everyone can definitely see things differently.
ReplyDeleteEmma and Regina are both safe and that's all I care about.
ReplyDeleteMy initial guess was Hook but one of the set producers Tweeted a photo of Pinocchio's hat on the rocks by the water, which leads me to believe it's Gepetto (or possibly Archie). I think maybe somebody dies trying to rescue August.
ReplyDeleteI'm going with Hook. "Not Penny's Boat".
ReplyDeleteFor me, Graham was important and I'm still pissed they killed him off.
ReplyDeleteThat depends on who you think is important. For me, Graham was definitely important. (But I do think the show has changed since then, so they might not have the balls to do it anymore.)
ReplyDeleteIt's obviously Regina.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm willing to bet that all the people down-voting anything pro-Hook are disgruntled shippers who know that I'm right. Hook IS wildly popular and "Good Form" made the ratings go up 5%.
ReplyDeleteExcept that pictures on set have revealed that Hook goes back to Storybrook with the rest of the cast. Also, Colin O'Donoghue just moved his family to Vancouver. He's a main character on the show now and I don't think he's going anywhere. Thank god, too - he's so talented.
ReplyDeleteI doubt it will be Hook or Snow since they are too important. While I wish it were Charming since he can't leave Neverland and Snow could use some good dramatic material, I don't think OUAT is bold enough to kill him.
ReplyDeleteTinkerbell would be an absolute waste this early, we just met her character.
Granny doesn't make much sense since that would be a major character arc for Ruby and she isn't returning for enough episodes for that.
Neal is possible, especially if his death is at the climax of the Neverland arc, but again, I don't think OUAT is bold enough to do so. It would rob them of their triangle and would be a little repetitive after Emma thinking he was dead.
I don't think it makes that much sense to have Ruby return just to kill her off, but if the show wants to go for the laziest yet still significant death, it would be her.
Geppetto and Archie are completely insignificant, which means it is probably one of them. I don't really care though.
Blue Fairy is the dark horse here since she has history with Tinkerbell and there may be an important enough backstory that she gets killed off. Her death would be more meaningful than Geppetto or Archie while still not too bold for the show.
So basically, hoping for Charming or Neal, but expecting Ruby or Blue Fairy if it's a bigger death or Geppetto or Archie if it's a smaller death. It's worth noting we don't know in which episode this death will occur. Ruby isn't in this upcoming week's episode if that's the one.
Wrong. Without Hook, they wouldn't have even made it to Neverland to save Henry. Everything that he's done on the island has been to help the others, and without benefit to himself. He's had an amazing arc so far about redemption and returning to the man he used to be. He's not going anywhere.
ReplyDeleteColin just moved his wife and infant son to Vancouver, I doubt he's going anywhere. Besides, Hook is far too popular - and just bloody fantastic.
ReplyDelete"Lazy writing"? Please. They've done brilliant things with his character and I can't wait to see him develop further.
ReplyDeleteIt won't be Snow or Charming! Because there story is the main part of the show!!
ReplyDeleteThe writers have said they wrote Graham with the explicit intenion of killing him though.
ReplyDeleteI think maybe hook or charming, but I hope not for charming . maybe neal might but they just found him. the rest I dontwant to die,amd no on red cause they said they might still have her in a few episodes
ReplyDeleteI would.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't change anything about him being an important character to me.
ReplyDeleteThats not the fool poll spoiler tv. If you look at vancitys link to the poll there are alot more people on it including regina,rumple,belle,peter pan,emma,henry and others.
ReplyDeleteHe did?
ReplyDeleteWhy am I happy that Regina and Rumple are not on the list? Yeah. Right. Coz they're not gonna die :)
ReplyDeleteI suppose. I just don't see the writers taking the plunge and getting rid of someone important.
ReplyDeletewait, someone's gonna die? D:
ReplyDeleteplease don't let it be Neal. I don't care about the ships or whatever that made people hate him (admit it!!). I just love his relationship + scenes with Rumple :'( I'll cry forever (just like Rumple) if Neal really dies.
SpoilerTV's source was probably able to reduce the choices to just those in this poll. I doubt they would post something like that without a credible source.
ReplyDeleteIt's not Neal, Hook, Snow, David, Archie, Tinker Bell, Granny or Blue Fairy, as they've all been seen in the filming of 3x10, when the Nevengers get back, so unless one their death occurs afterwards, none of them is dying. And Meghan Ory said that she'll be back next year, but whether it is in flashbacks only or not, we shall see. Besides, Ruby is one of my favorites, so I voted for Geppetto.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't watch anymore if they killed off Hook.
ReplyDeleteIts Ruby, shes not on the show anymore if anyone knows that by now. The actress left since the Season began for another show she was in. Its going to be Ruby that will get killed, obviously.
ReplyDeleteThere's no chance of that happening.
ReplyDeleteYep, he did. His son was even born in Canada.
ReplyDeleteI think it's going to be Tinkerbell but I really really really wish it was Neal.
ReplyDeleteHook is my favourite along with Regina and Emma. Can't stand Rumples.
ReplyDeleteI think they just killed Graham because the actor got injured or something like that. The writers were not being ballsy.
ReplyDeleteWell I hope it's not Neal, Hook, Ruby, Charming or Snow White. I like them all :(
ReplyDeleteSeriously?? They killed him just because of that!!!!
ReplyDeleteNo, IIRC that wasn't the reason at all.
ReplyDeleteOkay good haha. I hated that they killed him, but in terms of plot and storytelling, I thought it was a strong move.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I know the actor didn't get injured or anything like that. IIRC the creators had said after his death that they wrote his character with the intention to kill him off. I guess you could still argue that they weren't being ballsy, if they intended to kill him from the get go, but that doesn't change the fact the audience didn't know he was going to die. I for one thought he was an interesting and charismatic character who was important to the characters on the canvas and to the plot and who had a great potential for the future, so I got pretty attached to him and got very upset when he died.
ReplyDelete*SPOILERS* It can't be any of the Nevengers (that includes Neal) because
ReplyDeletethey show up in spoiler pics for 3x10 so it has to be one of the people
in Storybrooke. Belle is safe because theres spoilers pics of her in
3x10.
it will be some minor character imo, safe choice for the show, but it would cause "sadness" among some residents: Granny or Geppetto.
ReplyDeleteThe show doesn't have the guts to kill main character. It's not GOT or Strike Back or even TVD.
I hope it's Neal, but my vote goes to Tinker Bell
ReplyDelete*SPOILERS* It can't be any of the Nevengers (that includes Neal) because they show up in spoiler pics for 3x10 so it has to be one of the people in Storybrooke. Belle is safe because there's spoiler pics of her in 3x10 too.
ReplyDeleteBut, guys! A "popular" and "beloved" character dies. That totally rules Neal out! :)
ReplyDeleteIt would be easier to take you guys serious if you wouldn't constantly twist facts into whatever suits you and your agenda best. Episode 4 was the show's new series low in ratings because it had been up against a sports game that got the best football ratings in over a decade. That OUAT would bounce back in ratings the week after is only natural. By those standards it could even be argued that 5% is not much of a positive upwards trend again, but I wouldn't go there since the show is still pretty steady in ratings. It could be noted that episode 5 was the only episode in season 3 and the first episodes in some time for OUAT that lost a good portion of viewers during the first half of the episode.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they opted to kill Red ater all which would be a shame. I'm still bitter about how she was treated last season.
ReplyDeleteWe hope so.
ReplyDeleteRegina and Rumpel are the most popular characters, and Bob & Lana are the most talented actors in the cast...So I don't think Adam & Eddie would kill them so easily. Plus, the Rumbelle and SwanQueen have the biggest fanbase. Too many people (including me) would stop watching the show...So...
ReplyDeleteGraham and Cora were killed off, they were kinda popular. And then they made August a young boy, who was also very liked.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe it will be Neal, as we've already had the 'he's dead plot', but still it's a possibility- yet high unlikely imo.
ReplyDeleteRuby does have a possibility seeming Meghan IS filming for another show, but would they really do that? Knowing already how unhappy people were with her being in it less, not knowing dead.
Hook. Again, there's a possibility. But I'm not going to deny that Hook does have a large fanbase. Don't know if they'd really worth the risk of losing EVEN MORE viewers - but then again. Viewers were highest at season 1, and that was without Hook, so who knows?
Tinkerbell could very well be killed off (I really hope not cause I want her to see Regina meet Robin, or at least get her wings back). So, again likely.
Geppetto, very likely, but then what will they do with August? Will they really make another child without a father?
Blue Fairy, hm. Likely. But, aha, they do like to use her for when they have plot holes, or just want to conveniently use her for stuff- she's like a back up for parts of their plot that need fixing. But they could use Tinkerbell for that, if she were to gain her magic back? So possibly.
Prince Charming. Nahh. They've made him go through the whole 'dark shade' dilemma - unless that's the reason he died, cause he left Neverland? But I can't see the writers doing that tbf
Granny, it's an unlikely possibility, i can't see how anything good, or 'dramatic', could happen out of that, except for Ruby's reaction. But if Meghan's not there to do that storyline then...
Archie, well they've already had his funeral once in fairness. Can't see them repeating it - or I hope not.
Snow White? Ahahaha, like they'd do that. They'd have to have some balls to do that.
One way to solve the triangle love is through killing off one of the men - so I think it's either Neal or Hook. But I'd be sad if it happened. But my gut tells me that it's going to be Red, which makes me terribly sad too...............
ReplyDeleteNot spinning any facts, it was up against some very big sports thing. I'm pretty sure Adam even tweeted about the upward climb in ratings.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Tink kills the Blue Fairy.
ReplyDeleteOk I have a theory I would like to share with you (and please tell me what you think). Since we learned about the dark one's undoing I always thought in Pinocchio.
ReplyDeleteAugust was the reason because Emma and Neal were separated, he wanted to use Rumpel's dagger to save his ass, then he was the first who tried to make Emma believed, and they are a lot of connections that can be made with him since the moment Gold was reunited with Nealfire. So! My theory goes for Geppetto (I like his character, don't get me wrong) if he dies, then Pinocchio using maybe some Blue fairy's advice (which I believe is a villain) will ended by killing Rumpelstinkin and becoming the new dark one. But don't worry, I also believe that Belle's true love kiss will save Rumpel letting him to live a free normal life with her.
Yeah if Hook dies to save one of the others, it would be the ultimate redemption for a self serving pirate. But he would also be dead ...which is kind of sad and pointless.
ReplyDeleteIt would suck for sure, but the theme would be a universal definition of LOVE making up for all of his alleged wrongs by giving the characters a future to have.
ReplyDeleteNeal is another possibility, but I hope they care more about their story than pleasing the fan base. I don't think Henry deserves it.
I doubt this will happen, but just for fun, I kind of think I wouldn't mind Tink killing the Blue Fairy :p
ReplyDeleteSince Ruby is in Intelligence on CBS, I think she may be the one who dies...
ReplyDeleteI just hope it won't be Tinkerbell. But we do see her in 3x11 behind the scenes photos, right?
but this scene is after the ones we saw the other day (on the deck) so it could be anyone since they're ALL back from Neverland :)
ReplyDeleteyeah but the death happens after the pics we saw for 3x10 (check Vancity Filming ;) )
ReplyDeletehook has been the biggest let down for me. but I would bet on red/ruby.
ReplyDeletei'd love that but I don't think it is a series regular.
ReplyDeleteGood point!
ReplyDeleteDo you think they would take the easy way out like that and just kill part of the triangle? I sure hope not. Henry definitely doesn't deserve that. Plus I think there's still more to tell on the Rumple/Neal front.
This death happens after the spoiler pics from 3x10 so it could be anyone...
ReplyDeleteI'm conflicted because in a way I want Hook or Neal to die because since they arrived all we heard about is the love triangle, Neal/Emma and Hook/Emma....two romance that for now are poorly written and that are beginning to ruin previously good characters.
But on the other end I don't want them to die because I really like Hook, he has some amazing moments (I just wish they wouldn't change him completly for a woman he met like litteraly 2 weeks ago....but aaarrrg it's Once... Ariel's True Love is a fine looking dude she spoke to for 5 minutes :p ). And I want more Neal/Rumple so....
Anyway it's not gonna be either of them....I bet it's Geppetto
Actually the moment I saw him, I figured he would probably be the first to die.
ReplyDeleteNEAL PLEASEE BE NEAL.... is this the death tha Lana Parrilla said at comic- con it was amazing for her¿?¿?
ReplyDeleteAt least i won't be quitting the show as Rumple isn't on the list i hope it isn't Hook as i really like him even though i still can't see him as Hook
ReplyDeleteBest guess from me would be either:
ReplyDeleteTinkerbell - Rose McIver has a recurring role on Masters of Sex. Maybe she gets upped to series regular.
Archie - Raphael Sbarge is a main cast member of TNT's upcoming series Murder in the First. Maybe he will leave to pursue that show full time.
Ruby - Main Actress in the upcoming limited series Intelligence. Though billed as a limited series and on CBS, it is co-produced by ABC Studios so guest appearances would not be out of the question. But perhaps filming overlaps OUAT. Could be a schedule clash or something.
That's what I'm thinking, but who knows what writers will do here. I mean I've seen some pretty good arguments even in justifying Neal's death, even though I agree with your statement, because Neal is just so much more central to Rumple, Emma, and Henry than Hook is IMO.
ReplyDeleteI can't even begin to imagine my disappointment in the show if it's one of the following: Snow, Charming or Neal. Obviously from people on the list.
ReplyDeleteI just... There are some lines. And for me that would be crossing it.
That's true. In terms of story potential, based on current affairs, more can be done with Neal alive than with Hook alive. Man!! I don't want anybody to die though!
ReplyDeleteWell maybe we'll be Lucky and it will relate to the undoing of the Dark One :D
ReplyDeleteI like what your thinking!!! One thing I found interesting with the way last season ended, was making August back into Pinocchio and having him loose his "August" memories, which we could look at as either freeing him of a burden and leading him back to innocence or a reset to 'the curse', and how that plays into 'The Lost Boy' Themes....
ReplyDeleteBut just to clarify do you believe it's Geppetto that will become the dark one or Pinocchio?
I do think it would be nice to use those two characters in some way in relation to Peter Pan, The Dark One, and/or Neverland!
Good for you then. I didn't. I totally thought he was going to be a long-term character. Silly little me, I guess.
ReplyDeleteI voted Hook, because from the last episode we see him more or less less willing to live after Neal and Emma reunite.
ReplyDeleteRuby because Meghan Ory will be in another show or if I've to choose another character Hook.
ReplyDeleteFrom the time where Neal know about Henry he's great father. It's not his fault if he was not here before, he didn't know about him.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I would miss Hook because he's an
ReplyDeleteinteresting (and pretty) character... I think it's gunna be him. Especially if Swan
Thief is end game. It's like... where does Hook go from there? It's not
likely he'll fall in love again honestly, after Milah and then if he
loses Emma too. So the only way to go is to make things up to Baelfire
and Rumple (and to do it for Emma) and rescue Henry in some dramatic way
and die in the process. Finish off his redemption arc by doing the right thing for someone else.
my guess is... Tink.
ReplyDeleteI was hoping for Peter Pan
ReplyDeleteVancity one of the people who brought it up said on their poll list that it was someone on the list and they had a few more people. they had regina, rumple,belle, Peter Pan, Whale
ReplyDeleteFingers crossed :D
ReplyDeleteRegina and Rumpel weren't even included in the poll...
ReplyDeleteEmma's not an option either.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe undoing means his undoing as the dark one. Someone else (maybe Regina) could become the dark one, and Rumplestiltskin would have to learn to fight his battles without magic, maybe finally overcome his coward status.
ReplyDeleteWe already had a whole episode where we thought Archie was dead and they had a funeral for him. Would they really repeat that?
ReplyDeletepan
ReplyDeleteWhen character in 3rd season has nothing in common with the same character in the 2nd season I call it lazy writing. Lazy writing at its worse.
ReplyDeleteI've picked the Blue Fairy... I'd least I hope that's her. xD Anyway, nobody knows for sure if or who is going to die yet. I'd rather just continue watching and not worry about those things at all.
ReplyDeletewhy would anyone vote for hook? :S he is fan fav. they cant kill him. he is most interesting character
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