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The Walking Dead - Infected - Review and Discussion

Oct 21, 2013

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Summer vacation is over for Rick and his group. We saw Rick come back in this episode, but not in the way the phrase is often used on this show. Instead of coming back from insanity or inhumanity, Rick came back to his insane world. As the new Woodbury characters our group has become closest to got picked off one by one over the past couple of episodes, Rick has been struggling with the reality that he can’t hide in Hershel’s garden forever.

We got some answers – and some new questions – on the sickness. Our prison group thinks it’s the flu, rather than a mutated version of the walker fever. Thank you Drs. Hershel and Subramanian. As the doctors explain, contagious illnesses like this often start with pigs and the birds and spread to humans. I’m wondering though if the worms that Rick was feeding the pigs are significant, and whether the fact that one of the walkers by the fence had the same symptoms as Patrick is something we should be remembering for later. Could this be something transmitted by the walkers, maybe spread to the group because they’ve been congregating close to the fences? The earlier season’s cautionary measures of making sure the blood doesn’t touch the living seems to be totally gone now, and it’s not uncommon for someone to emerge from a fight covered with walker blood.

We also now apparently have a saboteur, or at least someone causing some trouble for an unknown motivation. Perhaps it’s someone (or someones) like Clara who has been pushed too far – beyond the point of coming back?

Saboteur?

Apparently the reason walkers have stopped spreading out and have become more aggressive about pushing in at the fences is that someone has been feeding them. A possible suspect is the little girl Lizzie, but that seems a little too obvious. [Disclosure – I’m probably wrong on this as I was guilty last season of overthinking whether it was Milton burning the walkers.] The exchange between Rick and Clara, in which she tries to lure him into a trap to feed him to her walker husband, now appears to have been foreshadowing for the closer-to-home threat the group now faces.

In addition, we have an unknown person or persons who murdered the flu-infected, including Tyreese’s new love, Karen, and burned them in secret. Was it the same person? Possibly, but to me, the person feeding the walkers feels more like a Clara, someone who has lost his or her sanity and is humanizing the walkers, or bent on self-destruction. The person who killed the sick feels more like a Shane, someone who believes in doing whatever it takes to survive.

The group is now going to have to face the challenges of managing a larger community, rather than the small tribe that functioned under what Rick made clear was NOT a democracy. The last time this group’s unity fractured under the input of the many was when it was at odds over what to do with Randall, the kid from the enemy group they feared would lead danger to their door if they released him. The group is broken, Daryl had said at the time. This time around, as part of the council Daryl won’t be able to retreat to his own private space and let others deal with the issues, so this should be an interesting exploration of Daryl’s character growth.

Carol Now vs. Carol and Sophie

Carol is back in a motherly role – left caretaker for two young girls, Mika and Lizzie Samuels, after their father was killed by walkers. We see a glimpse of Carol’s new mothering style, and it’s interesting to take a look back at the Carol and Sophia was saw in the first couple of seasons and compare it to who Carol is now.

Carol in earlier seasons seemed weak. She continued on in an abusive relationship despite the effects it was having on her and her daughter. She loved Sophia, no doubt, but was passive in protecting her – letting others take charge when Sophia was in danger. In fact, we never saw Carol going out on a search team to look for her daughter. Mika said about Lizzie, “She’s messed up. She’s not weak.” That also pretty much defines Carol as she used to be.

Everything changed for Carol when she learned Sophia had died and been turned into a walker. The Carol we’re now seeing is one who cares deeply about teaching the children to protect themselves – so much so that she’s willing to deceive their parents and go against the will of Rick and the group. She’s taught Lizzie and Mika to stab people who have died in the head, and she’s willing to let Lizzie do it to her own father when Lizzie asks. I’m not sure I approve of her asking Carl not to say anything to Rick, though. She’s doing what she needs to do and believes is best for the children, but I don’t think she should have asked Carl to lie to his father.

Michonne

We saw a rare glimpse of vunerability with Michonne this episode. After months of being part of the group, she has fully acclimated and seems finally ready to face whatever trauma she had gone through before we met her.

I’m looking forward to seeing more of her story. Did she lose a child? Is that how she became so shut off? We still haven’t learned what exactly her relationship was to the two walkers she was dragging around when we first met her. The only thing we know is that she had known them previously, and she had told Andrea, “they weren’t human to begin with.”

Other Thoughts

- Tyreese lost someone he cared deeply about this episode. His character was disappointingly underdeveloped last season, but this change could lead to an interesting arc for him. One thing we learned about him last season is that he admittedly has a temper.
- How cute was Glenn taking Maggie’s picture as she was sleeping? It was a nice touch of normalcy in an otherwise very dark episode.
- One of my favorite scenes was between Daryl and Rick when Daryl tells Rick he’s earned his vacation and tries to get him to stop blaming himself. “For what it’s worth, you see mistakes. I see when the shit hits, you stand there with a shovel.”
- To me, the most suspenseful moment was when the fence was about to break. The outbreak in the prison was a strong contender, but I was prepared for that. The fence for a moment looked like it was going to lead to a tragic second act – and I cared about all of the characters standing under that fence.
- It was a heartbreaking moment when Rick was murdering the piggies and breaks down as he is once again covered in blood. He just can’t escape his fate.
- I hate seeing animals die. The rat in the opening scenes was gruesome enough, but the piggies did me in. They were so cute!

I think this was a strong episode, heavy on action, that continued to set up the season. It was suspenseful, scary and heartbreaking. So what did you think? Are you excited about this season yet?

37 comments:

  1. I've been watching from the beginning on Netflix over the past few weeks, and what you said about Carol is spot on. I just finished watching the stretch of episodes at the farm during the Sophia hunt and was a bit shocked to seeing Carol as she was - a mousey woman sitting on the sidelines. How much she has changed is a testament to what she's endured and the strength she found in losing her daughter. I think she'll be a great mom and rolemodel to Mika and Lizzie. Also - I dont think she should have asked that of Carl either, but I can see why she did. It's important that the kids learn to protect themselves. Better a knife then nothing and she knows the importance of that.

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  2. Thanks for you comments. This show does a really good job of growing the characters so subtly that you don't realize how much they have changed until you look back on where they started. The episode Clear last season was especially powerful because we had met Morgan in the pilot. It was shocking how much he had changed, but Rick had probably changed just as much. We just saw it unfold gradually.


    I agree that Carol is going to be a great role model to the girls. They're at a point where they're going to have to become stronger and learn to live in this world, and she'll be able to bring her own lessons into their upbringing. There's also the gender issue. A lot of the women in this show started out in more traditional, passive roles, but had to learn to become better at defending themselves. We saw that with Andrea and how she had to work so hard to get others to accept that she wanted to learn to use a gun and fight walkers rather than do laundry. These girls will be facing similar issues and Carol is the perfect person to help them along.

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  3. Chris I'd like to get your opinion on something. I love your reviews btw. I agree with you that the person feeding the walkers could be Lizzie but I'm not sure. You said you believe the person that murdered Karen and David was someone else. There was a scene where Lizzie took Carol's knife at the fence. Is it possible that she may have used that knife to kill Karen and David and then drag their bodies to be burnt? In my view an adult would've been able to carry those bodies but we clearly saw a blood trail where they had been dragged. Maybe Lizzie's not all there. She showed hardly any emotion over her father's death but she did show sadness over Nick the walker's death.

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  4. One think Greg Nicotero mentioned on The Talking Dead was the fact that the other burned body with Karen was another new character this season we saw culling the walkers at the prison fence. So pathologically it does fit one person if their motivation is a pro-walker agenda. Feed the walkers because they were once humans and kill the people who were culling the herd because they were killing walkers.


    I have a hard time picturing Lizzie killing KAren and other down in the catacombs, dragging them outside and lighting them on fire, but I am not ruling it out.


    I prefer the idea of one person making mischief, but I can see the alternate motivation of killing the sick to stop the spread of the virus.


    Oh the irony, culling the the herd to make it stronger by killing the people who were culling the Zombie herd to make it weaker! XD

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  5. That's an interesting theory! The thing with this show is that any one of these characters could crack at any time. They've all been though so much. I had a moment watching the episode when I suspected Michonne. I don't really think its her because I think her character will go a different way, but she wasn't looking too balanced either.


    Personally I'm having a hard time picturing a child having the strength to drag two adult bodies, but I could be wrong. Also, Lizzie feels like misdirection to me. What would be interesting is if it turns out to be someone from our group, like Beth, who cracked and no one knew it.

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  6. Bob Stookey is the character I have read theorized the most. He did show he was dealing with PTSD in the premiere....

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  7. I could have suspected Michonne but I felt her ankle injury would've prevented her from lugging around two bodies. I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out who it could be. Many of course are suspecting The Governor but I doubt he'd be able to sneak into the prison to burn bodies etc without being seen. I also though of it maybe being a Woodbury citizen angry that Rick's group cost him/her their home in Woodbury but we haven't really been introduced to anybody from Woodbury. Another suspect I conjured up was Bob. He's a former army medic and has probably seen some stuff. PTSD and alcoholism could make a person do crazy things. That's what makes this show so great. It could be anybody. Heck it could be Carl for all we know.

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  8. Yeah the way he stared at the decapitated body at the department store showed that and we know for sure he's a recovering alcoholic. Sasha mentioned that he had been surviving on his own. In order to be able to do that he would've had to have done some stuff (worse than Shane). He's only been at the prison for a week too. The group knows little about him.

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  9. Back to the new illness that killed Patrick. I noticed Rick fed the pigs using dead plants, worms, etc. Is it possible that the illness is caused by the ground itself. When the group moved into the prison they killed a lot of walkers to take the place. Is it possible that the walker's blood seeped into the ground contaminating the soil. Now everyone's ingesting those crops (including the pigs).

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  10. I was thinking of that last night and thought they made a point to show Rick adding the earthworms to the pig's food, but I had not connected it to the multitude of walkers killed in the area.


    We known getting walker gore on you will not make you sick, but digesting it? That may be something different!

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  11. I looked to see if Bob was among the group listening as Karen was coughing and telling everyone that David had been coughing also. He wasn't, but Sasha was, and she might have told Bob.

    I'm pretty sure Lizzie fed the zombies, but out of compassion and not mischief. She wouldn't have realized that the result would be a damaged fence.

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  12. If I recall, Bob was there when Rick and the new doctor discussed the cause possibly being a virus in the sleepwalker's cell, so he could have connected the dots himself and gone down to the catacombs. Really, anyone could have though. I think information can travel quickly in small places.

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  13. I remember at the beginning when they were getting rid of the bodies Glenn questioned whether they should burn them or bury them. Rick made the comment that he didn't want to bury them and contaminate the soil. With 50+ walkers lying in the yard bleeding the soil could've gotten contaminated then. I guess in the end though it could've been a single mosquito lol.

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  14. That an interesting angle. Feeding the walkers is one thing, but taking revenge on their behalf enters a whole new level of crazy.

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  15. Bob crossed my mind too, but I lumped him in with Lizzie in that he seemed too obvious. But as I said in the review, I tend to overthink these things. I thought Milton was far too obvious as the suspect who had burned the walkers last year. I'm so used to shows piling on twist after twist, but this show isn't written like that.

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  16. I thought Michonne probably did lose a baby. I'm glad we're getting to know more of her character.



    I feel like they are killing off too many good characters now. I don't know what they're doing. And the pig death scenes bugged me. I would have rather had Rick blow up the car like a bomb than kill the animals.


    I'm really liking Carole. She's becoming so strong now. And she is doing the right thing trying to teach the kids to survive.

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  17. They do kill off a lot of great characters, but they're also very good at developing new ones to fill the void. One of the reasons that I like that the Woodbury group has been merged is that this gives a chance to replenish the ranks. The show was feeling a little empty with the loss of Shane, Dale, Merle, Andrea, and the others. Let's hope the PTB let at least a few live for a while!


    I agree about Carol. To be honest, I've never been her biggest fan, but she seems to be coming into her own recently. As Merle said, she's "a late bloomer."

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  18. This show is great. There are days don't think I can deal with how dark it is, but it never fails. By the end of the episode I'm pulled in again.

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  19. Those piggies were so cute ... but I figured they would kill them off. I mean as soon as that kid said he was sick ... swine flu was the first thing to pop into my head.
    I am loving the Michonne story this year so far. I hope they keep that up. In the comics I thought the two pet walkers were her fiancé and best friend. But they change stuff a bit from the comics and I am not even sure that's right anyway.
    Poor Rick. I appreciate you not wanting to turn into Shane.2 but this is the world you live in - nut up or shut up bro.
    Carol - I hated you when you were boring. You're not boring anymore but I'm not sure I like you yet. I do believe that the children should be taught to defend themselves but I don't think that is her call to make. If that is what their parents want (providing they're around to say) then they can ask for their kids to be trained.
    Daryl - you're still a bad mother fucker.
    Tyrese - you've taken over the boring slot from Carol. Your sister has more balls ... grow a set, you really really need them.
    Carl got his gun back ... ok.
    Maggie may very well be the last sane woman in the entire world.

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  20. Yeah, that's been on my mind too. I think it could very well be the ground. Even if it's not necessarily because of the walkers disease, just the fact many dead bodies were laying on the ground.

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  21. First of all it couldn't possibly be Clara SHE'S DONE STABBED HERSELF SHE'S DEAD!!!! My opinion it's a new character in the group feeding rats to the walkers AKA........Bob Stookey????? Maybe he's working for the Governor who knows??? But if you look at the New sneak peak Carol is hugging Lizzies mean little sister.I think lizzie possibly dies from the New sickness next episode. I know from the New sneak peak that Tyreses sister Sasha looks to be isolated somewhere cuz of the newfound...... Guess we will see;)

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  22. I'm thinking the whole worm thing is not about the Virus!!! When the show Rick grabbing the worms/rotten vegetation in his hands the camera shows him squeeze the mixture in his hands just as Carle asked him about killing walkers at the fence!!! I think the directers were showing us his anguish about Carle and him even 're-killing these things.Remember he's been trying to get Carle to be a kid again.

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  23. Great review to an amazing episode, well done! As for the saboteur, I agree with a theory I read from someone over at the comments section of the episode that said it was a plant from the governor that was doing it, I could see that happening since he is bound to show up sooner or later.

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  24. I am still not over Andrea's death. There was plenty of places for her character to grow and as much as I love the show, I feel that her death was introduced just as a way to have the big finale dramatic death that we all knew it was coming. I would really have liked to see her back on the group, reconnecting with Rick, repairing her relationship with Michone and later deal with the Governor's return. There was no need to kill her and frankly, I don't see the purpose it served. I was heartbroken when Lori was killed off but I totally get what they did it and was worth it for the effect it had on Rick and Carl. Andrea I don't get.

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  25. You guys are making excellent points, sounds very likely, yes. My God, I can't imagine poor Rick if he realizes that it was his food efforts that started this, he will go insane with guilt.

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  26. I think they've succeeded in expanding the group, we all have a bunch of new characters to talk about and theorize now ;)

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  27. That's a good theory too. There could be some people in the Woodbury group still loyal to him. These are such self-destructive acts, it's hard to imagine that someone would try to get the place overrun by walkers, but you never know.

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  28. Thanks for commenting. I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying it was Clara because, as you pointed out, she's dead. I was saying that Clara's scenes last week seemed to foreshadow this new development - that they may have someone in their camp who has gone insane and is on the side of the walkers. I was suggesting someone who thinks like Clara.

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  29. That's a good point. There was a heavy emphasis about Rick not wanting to kill things anymore. It makes me wonder about Rick's question to Clara last week - how many walkers have you killed - and what the right answer in Rick's mind would be.

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  30. I think that the right answer there is still a good numbers because they need people that can help them protect themselves . But I see your point about it being a conflict for Rick.

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  31. Yeah that is true because if it is a sickness that person would be prone to catch it as well, so I don't know why would someone risk that.

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  32. I had similar thoughts about Carol. I'm also not sure I approve of her call to decide for the parents whether to train the kids. I understand where it's coming from though, given what happened to Sophia. I'm putting it in the same category as Rick deciding the group was no longer a democracy. Neither is "right," but these people have been pushed to the point where just staying alive often seems more important than doing the right thing. Carol and Rick do have more real-world experience now than the people in Woodbury, and they know that people often make bad decisions. I can understand from an emotional point of view how they've been pushed to the point where they can't take anymore tragedy and would be tempted to let go of some of the freedoms and choice they valued in a different lifetime.


    I'm not sure Andrea would have agreed though, were she still here. She added some balance to those discussions.


    Agree that Maggie is the last sane woman in the world, and Glenn one of the last sane men. Those are the two - and add Hershel - who I've crossed off my list of possible suspects.

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  33. Don't get me wrong - I understand why she did it. The loss of Sophia is still very present in her actions. Hindsight being 20/20 ... I just think she needs to get a parents permission. I think she could make a really strong case for them to back her up on this but the fact that she goes behind their backs and asks Carl not to say anything suggests that subconsciously she knows she is crossing a line. If she really believed that this is the right thing to do, she would be open about it,

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  34. See, I disagree with that because I feel that we already hated the Governor plenty and we had already seen how ruthless and evil he was (what he did to Maggie and Glenn, what he tried to to do Michonne, the way he killed his own people, etc.). Michonne's witnessing her death firsthand and being on a revengequest is cool but she would already be looking for him (because she was already last year) so I don't feel that it adds anything here that is meaningful enough. I would rather see her character progress. She had come so far from who she was back in season 1 (not so differently than Carol) and I love watching these type of character progressions throughout a series.

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  35. I feel he killed the pigs for a reason. They're connecting the pigs with the illness that killed Patrick and the sleepwalker. Remember after their deaths Rick burned the wood used to build their pen as well as the his shirt which was covered in the pig's blood. Carol seems to have taken Andrea's place in the comics. When the comic character Allen died he asked Andrea to take care of his twin boys. On the show it's a man named Ryan asking Carol to take care of his girls.

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  36. Andrea had to die to show the true ruthlessness of The Governor. Not only her death but the way he killed her (killing Milton and then allowing him to bite her after he turned) showed just how evil he actually is. Michonne witnessed her death firsthand. She's on a mission to eliminate him and when she does it'll be awesome.

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  37. I agree with Carol's decision to train the children to defend themselves without the permission of the parents. Sophia lost her life because she couldn't defend herself and I think Carol blames herself for that. I believe she feels that if she would've allowed Sophia to be stronger replacing her doll with a knife then she'd still be alive. Carol's learned from her mistake. I don't think Tyreese is weak as much as he is broken. The man's seen a lot and finding love was a breath of fresh air then it was just taken away from him. I love the Michonne story and Daryl's awesome.

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