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Ratings News - 24th October 2013

Oct 24, 2013

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)



Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Wednesday Ratings
The World Series Lifts Fox to Victory

Wednesday 10/23/13

Household
Rating/Share
Fox 9.8/17
CBS 6.8/11
ABC 4.9/ 8
NBC 3.7/ 6
CW 1.8/ 3

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-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Wednesday 10/24/12:
Fox: +11, CBS: – 3, NBC and CW: -10 each, ABC: -17

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-Winners:
2013 World Series, Game One (Fox), “Survivor” (CBS), “Modern Family” (ABC), “Criminal Minds” (CBS), “CSI” (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
“The Middle” (ABC)

-Disappointing:
“Back in the Game” (ABC), “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Super Fun Night” (ABC), “Nashville” (ABC), “Ironside” (NBC)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
Game one of the 2013 World Series, St. Louis Cardinals at the Boston Red Sox, led Fox to midweek victory with an estimated 9.8 rating/15 share in the overnights in primetime. Comparably, that outdelivered the year-ago game one match-up between the San Francisco Giants and the Detroit Tigers (8.8/14 on 10/24/12) by 11 percent. And that game translated into 12.24 million viewers and a 3.6 rating/10 share among adults 18-49, according to the live plus same day data. As a reminder, results for any live sporting event are always approximate.

CBS finished second overall for the night with its perennial combination of “Survivor: Blood vs. Water” (#2: 6.2/10), “Criminal Minds” (#2: 7.5/12) and the 300th episode of “CSI” (#2: 6.7/12), with all three hours on par from one year earlier. Given some the time period leaks elsewhere, CBS has no need to address its still potent Wednesday night line-up. If it works don’t fix it. For a conversation about must-see “Survivor,” please visit our Facebook page by clicking on the following: http://tinyurl.com/ckermnd

Next was ABC, which was carried, of course, by the 7.4/12 in the overnights for rock-solid “Modern Family” at 9 p.m. Comparably, that bested lead-in “Back in the Game” (#3: 4.2/ 7 at 8:30 p.m.) by 76 percent. Although “Back in the Game” did build by 11 percent from one week earlier (3.8/ 6 on Oct. 16), it was still down by 12 percent from year-ago occupant “The Neighbors” (4.8/ 8 on 10/24/12).

Earlier in the evening on ABC was episode 100 of always reliable “The Middle” at a third-place 5.7/ 9 in the overnights at 8 p.m.

In episode four news, “Super Fun Night” on ABC (#4: 4.1/ 7 at 9:30 p.m.) dipped by five percent from one week earlier, which was 25 percent below year-ago occupant “Suburgatory” (5.5/ 9 on 10/24/12). Comparably, retention for “Super Fun Night” out of “Modern Family” was a disappointing 55 percent (which was six percent below the 61 percent for “Suburgatory” out of “Modern Family” last year). Four-week overnight track for “Super Fun Night”: 5.5/ 9 – 4.7/ 8 – 4.3/ 7 – 4.1/ 7.

Sophomore drama “Nashville” closed out the night for ABC with a third-place 4.0/ 7 at 10 p.m., which was 17 percent below the 4.8/ 8 on the year-ago evening.

Elsewhere, relocated “Revolution” on NBC scored a now typical 3.7/ 6 at 8 p.m. (#4), which was 25 percent above failed year-ago sitcoms “Animal Practice” (2.8/ 5 on 10/24/12) and “Guys With Kids” (3.1/ 5). Veteran “Law & Order: SVU” followed with a below average (and fourth-place 4.3/ 7), which was down 16 percent compared to the year-ago evening. And it led into the series-finale of the revival of “Ironside,” which earned its cancellation stripes with a last-place 3.2/ 6 at 10 p.m. Note to the networks: most classic shows are not worth revisiting.

In week three news, CW drama “The Tomorrow People” slipped to a 1.5/ 2 at 9 p.m. (#5), which was 12 percent below week two (but still an improvement of seven percent from year-ago occupant “Supernatural” – 1.4/ 2 on 10/24/12). Comparably, retention for “The Tomorrow People” out of “Arrow” (#5: 2.1/ 3, down 22 percent from the year-ago evening) was an acceptable 71 percent. Let’s see what the young demos look like.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

Source: Marc Berman@tvmediainsights

About the Daily Ratings

Each day (except Sunday) during the main TV Season we post the TV Ratings for the previous nights primetime shows for the major broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, CW, FOX, NBC). Cable Network ratings will be added to the Ratings Database.

The first item that gets posted (normally around 2pm GMT) is the early overnight analysis based on the early household numbers (these are not the same as the Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers that are posted later).

Next, if available, we will post the Top 25 Market 18-49 Ratings to give you a rough idea of the ratings to following.

Later on (normally between 4pm-5pm GMT) we post the official early overnight Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers in the table above.

Finally, later in the evening (10pm-11pm GMT) or the following day, the final adjusted ratings numbers are released, these are then posted in the Ratings Database. The Final Adjusted numbers are what we use for all our Renew/Cancellation Tables, Full Season Tables, Ratings Scorecards etc (see below)

Additional Ratings Resources

If you’re interested in Ratings/Renewals/Cancellations then we have a number of resources here at SpoilerTV that we recommend you check out.

Renew/Cancel
Our Cancellation/Renewal predictions for the current season.
Ratings Database
Historical Ratings Database for nearly all major US shows going back to their first episodes.
Full Season Tables
The current season full ratings tables for both Total Viewers and 18-49 Demos
Ratings Scorecard
See how all the shows stack up against each other in the Ratings Scorecard Table.

63 comments:

  1. I think ABC need to move The Goldbergs after Modern Family.

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  2. I really can't tell anything so far, but I get so nervous with Wednesday ratings because of Revolution, I hate it. I also hope the cw shows did well. Pleased to see Mark at least acknowledging that we need to wait for the young demos.

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  3. Let's see. Last week it went up in overnights but down in demo. So let's wait. I am not optimistic though :S

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  4. Yep,I'm waiting until the final #s come out later today before i say anything,but i'm not hopeful either...

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  5. I thought Ironside was cancelled.

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  6. It was. This was the last episode NBC will air. It'll be replaced by Datleine starting next week.

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  7. Don't know what to think about these. I was sure Grey's went up last week only for it to down in the demos.

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  8. So, apparently baseball caused some problems to NBC and CW. I hope Arrow and The Tomorrow People obtained good enough ratings(18-49) anyway. About Revolution, I'm more pessimistic =/ from the reviews I've read so far, it looks like the quality of Revolution has improved on this second season, but people don't give it a chance anymore.

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  9. The quality definitely has improved. If you haven't watched the second season yet, I definitely recommend it. The show is way better than it ever was in the first season IMO. For me, it is the show I've always wanted it to be and I have heard quite a few people expressing the same.

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  10. Thanks, it's good to know :)

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  11. Devon Maxwell-PierceOctober 24, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    I don't like Revolution, but I've been rooting for it because David Rambo writes on the show (love him!) and as an Elementary fan, I know how awful these morning-afters can be. These numbers are scary. Networks and Nielsen have to come up with a different way to analyze viewership, but I don't know if it'll be soon enough to save some of these current shows. The DVR numbers for Elementary and Revolution are absurdly high.

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  12. Wow CSI and Criminal Minds !!

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  13. The 10 p.m. hour should get interesting starting next week now that DD is gone. Of course, if there is a G6, that will dominate. So maybe the week after that! LOL

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  14. Damn Revolution.. :( Yeah for Arrow !

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  15. The middle got 81.90 Million viewers :O @darkufo

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  16. Probably a typo for 8.19. :).

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  17. Networks and Nielsen answer to advertisers. They're going to have to figure out the numbers that the advertisers will PAY for.

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  18. Does the network care about dvr rating? I hope they do bc I mostly dvr all my favorite shows and I don't want any of my shows to be cancel.

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  19. Revolution got a 1.4 Demo, tying last weeks series low. Just an FYI as its not in the list yet :)

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  20. Extremely happy that Revolution at least didn't fall more (and I promise that I hate to be this person but SVU being down is good news for it, I am sorry to the fans). Terrified with that drop for The Tomorrow People though, what the hell happened? So annoying! These wednesday ratings kill me!

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  21. Only the first 7 days I think and only if you are a nielsen viewer.

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  22. Happy that Revolution and Nashville are steady, bummed about TTP's decline though.

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  23. And even then, no, they don't care. The Live + same day and Live + 7 are used for mostly PR purposes. It's seriously time for networks to start transitioning to a new model. Hopefully in the next few years.

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  24. I'm still iffy as well. The first half of season 1 had its highs and lots of lows. Is the 2nd half better? Still deciding if I should watch the second half and catch up with S2

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  25. ABC needs to relocate Super Fun Night to Tuesdays and pair it with Mixology and move Trophy Wife into SFN slot after Mod Fam. They are much more compatible

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  26. The Tomorrow People is a great show !! :(

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  27. The Middle dropped a tenth, Modern Family dropped three tenths, while Super Fun Night actually didn't drop, and rose a tenth, though I think it will be adjusted down. Back In The Game dropped two-tenths. Nashville was even with last week.
    Criminal Minds was even with last week, while CSI rose a tenth.
    Over at NBC, SVU rose four-tenths, Revolution was even with a sad 1.4, and Ironside's farewell episode dropped two-tenths.
    Finally at The CW, Arrow and The Tomorrow People both dropped two-tenths, which really bums me out. A 0.9 is still respectable for Arrow, but The Tomorrow People reaching a 0.6 this early isn't a good sign. I hope both of them are adjusted up in the finals, and The Tomorrow People rises next week, I am really enjoying it, and next week's episode is really good.

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  28. Mixology probably won't arrive till January at the earliest. ABC just can air it without any promotion.

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  29. so far originals is clearly the cw best new show ratings wise but tomorrow people is doing a lot better than reign

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  30. I am not a fan, but who know, Reign might rise in the coming weeks. I am really hoping TTP picks up.

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  31. Me too, this week's episode great, and so is next week's. I hope it gets a back order.

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  32. I found the second half to be better, but it still had @ 3-5 episodes that were just ok story of the week with bread-crum mythology dropped in, but the last few episodes were climatic and more serialized just as it was right before the first hiatus....But season 2 is completely serialized, production values are greatly improved (possibly due to new filming location allowing for better budget), the reoccurring characters have given great flavor and it's much more character driven IMO.

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  33. I agree with everything DarthLocke4 said. The second half of season 1 is better but not on par with season 2 by any means. On season 2, it is not about a quest to turn the power back on or to save Danny but it is about the world they now live in. Production values have greatly improved, the writing doesn't even look like the same, they have dialed down the storylines and arcs that were not working so good and even the acting improved in some case cases I feel. Give it a try! For me it was just an ok show the first season... It is now one of my favorite shows!

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  34. Makes sense I guess. Still hate it though

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  35. I am not a fan of reign but I don't think it is safe to say it will be doing worse than 0.6 this soon...

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  36. I don't think they will premiere it in January even. I doubt if it comes before March.

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  37. I think it'd be best if ABC premiered it during February sweeps.

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  38. Super Fun Night is already flopping on Wednesdays after the highest rated show on the network airing against a bunch of old skewing procedurals, a weak X-Factor and TTP. Why would it perform better (or not completely collapse) out of a lower and likely more incompatible lead-in against two extremly young skewing comedies, a similar crime procedural, the powerful hour of the voice and Supernatural?

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  39. There is the olympics going on at the time. I think it is a bad idea to launch anything by then.

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  40. To be honest, I am really not sure what winter will look like for ABC. I think they are unlikely to launch much stuff in January before the olympics but with all the three DOA freshman dramas, the underperfoming comedies and the planned hiatus for their 5 serial dramas I have no idea what they will fill the schedule with. I am not even sure they are willing to let Shield go up against the Olympics, nor I think they should.

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  41. I don't remember which night, but they are airing as new reality show called The Queen in January.
    Resurrection premiere date has been announced for March, and that leaves Mind Games and Killer Woman. I don't know if ABC is willing to risk airing those in January to fill the schedule of the dramas that will go on hiatus.

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  42. Yes, Revolution better than last week,that is what i wanted to hear today :)))))))

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  43. Actually, it is even with last week.

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  44. Then they need to convince the advertisers better. I've read that CBS wants the 25-54 demo to matter more (because well it works for them) and or for the "older" demo for that matter but apparently the advertisers won't budge.

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  45. I wouldn't worry just yet about the Tomorrow People. Wait and see how it does when it isn't up against the World Series. A 0.6 is not great, but it also isn't terrible. It could be the 5th highest rated show if Reign does worse. And we all know that on the network that renewed The Carrie Diaries, Arrow isn't going anywhere for a long time :)

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  46. I think it's called The Quest. Originally, it was slated to bridge the Wonderland hiatus Thursdays at 8. However, since Wonderland will be cancelled I am thinking they are likely to roll with Wonderland until February and then premiere Killer Women there directly. I think they will send the taste and the quest to sundays to bridge OUAT and Revenge hiatus. No idea what will their air tuesdays at 10, wednesdays at 10, thursdays at 9 and thursdays at 10 until march though.

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  47. Like your optimism ;)

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  48. IF they bring BoP back, I don't see them airing it against The Olympics.

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  49. I would really like for BoP to be back but I don't think it will happen. Regardless, I think it's virtually impossible that there are episodes produced and ready to go in February.

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  50. I wouldn't say TTP is doing a lot better than Reign, just a little better.TTT premiered at 0.9& over 2 million & Rein @ 0.8,2 million .

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  51. Yep, she ABC has a major scheduling issue in the winter.

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  52. ya but i know a lot people weren't happy with the pilot for reign so i'm thinking a lot will drop it. I'm not against Reign I watched the pilot and didn't mind it but I like tomorrow people more.

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  53. Devon Maxwell-PierceOctober 24, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Yes and no. L and SD are counted together, to my knowledge. L+3 is PR, yes, but it can give a hint as to which shows might have a good C3 and that is seen very favorably by advertisers as those are the weird DVR users who do watch the ads. We never see those numbers, or rarely do. L+7 is essentially all spin.

    It's not meaningless, though. The DVR lift can help the nets make a choice between two bubble shows, because it shows there's an audience out there that just needs to be encouraged to watch live. If show A is doing a 1.6 every week and show B is doing a 1.6, but with L+3 you see a 1.5 18-49 lift for show A and a .4 for show B, which one are they going to renew?

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  54. Devon Maxwell-PierceOctober 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    I think the 25-54 just makes more sense, CBS or no. People in their 50s still spend money. They're not yet at retirement. They still need tech and business travel and are more likely to buy the spendier products. I'm still in my 30s, but I know I really didn't start spending a lot til closer to 25 because I was still in school and still not that far removed from having to borrow money from my parents. Maybe that's the point, LOL.

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  55. It is not about who spends the money. The rationale - and you may agree with you or not - is that people >50 watch more TV, so they are more easily reachable (daytime, primetime and late night), which means they are not scarce. One of the most basic principles from economics is that the scarcer a good is, the more valuable it is. So because people over 50 are not a valuable "good", they are not worth money to advertisers. The scarcer a group is, the more money it is valuable. For instance, FOX cartoons are usually the highest rated shows in terms of Men 18-34. It is very hard for advertisers to reach these people through other means. Therefore, advertisers with products oriented to this group battle it out between themselves in a bidding war, thus driving the price of the ads there up. Nobody will battle it out for a viewer >50 because they can reach it anywhere. The scarcer, the more well paid.

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  56. Yea sports and shows like The Walking Dead get the very scarce male 18-49 demo.

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  57. I felt like it was a shame they off so many characters as soon as or before they could become interesting. They had a compelling idea and tried to float some potentially interesting development between characters, but couldn't stay with anything for the long haul. I stayed with 'Revolution' for awhile and wanted to keep going. But every time I would start to almost get interested in a character or a story arc, they killed that person off. It happened over and over again.With so many of the original characters gone, and so many new characters introduced only to be killed soon after, I can't say I'm just jumping to start watching again. I have no desire to get invested just to have the rug jerked out again. If it does get cancelled, well, they kind of sank their own ship. Shows that manage to stick around long term and keep a fan base create rich characters whose relationships with other characters grow and evolve, peeling back layers and developing depth. By killing off so many characters and never allowing anything to develop, they're always stuck in the shallow end of the pool and it's just hard to get excited to see what happens next.

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