it was pretty obvious when they kept showing Kirkland about to torture Jane that he was a red herring, even though this seems to point to Smith as a likely RJ candidate, I think that he's just an underling to RJ
I believe he(smith) was trying to get intel on Kirkland and DHS investigation......I hope someone else at DHS knows about the group of high ranking LEO cover up Murder. I think Kirkland was killed so CBI won't look bad as it kidnapped one of it employee to keep reputation good
you are right Smith is scary and I don't think killing Kirkland and making it look he escape would work with everyone as jane will know it involves RJ. It obvious the transport guard is corrupt and an associate of tiger tiger conspriacy group
so now 5 suspect remaining and probably they all are a part of the same organization, RJ is a part of that organization but visualize has to factor in somehow so here my theory (RJ is Haffner) and Stiles is the mastermind of this organization and sees Haffner as a son...
Yep. He's part of the Tiger group. Which seems oddly similar to HR from person of interest, except HR as far as we know does not harbor a serial killer. :D These guys are far more dangerous than them.
So, I guess what they are trying to do here is show us that there is a larger organization with resources that Red John is simply utilizing to carry out his deeds. So after Jane has killed Red John this organization will be what carries the mythology forward. But I hope that is not the case. It would be a little anti climactic.
But I should give the show credit for bringing back so many elements from past episodes and tying up lose ends. But I wonder how Bret Stiles and Visualize factors into all this. I don't think it's part of the law enforcement group. Because we know that Red John when he was a much younger man started out his killings in a Visualize chapter.
The Reason to me why this show is Failing thats in my own opinion it's because this RJ has gone on for way way way to long. - Another reason is that for the previous 5 Seasons there has always been Flirty banter between Jane and Lisbon whether You want to believe it or not and 1Million% Fact it's not a Brother/Sister Banter thing it's a love Flirty banter thing and the problem there is simple why make them flirt and banter over the past 5 seasons and even in the few episodes of season 6 that have aired already and yet the creators and writers have ruined the chance of us jisbon fans seeing them together in a Relationship. - Personally to me it's ruined to even consider starting a Relationship in Season 6 because it's not like it's looking good for a Renew of a Season 7 so why o why to me the creators and writers ruined everything with this show letting RJ last this long no Jisbon at all the name Jisbon should be just erased because there not even together so Jisbon is a shipper name yeah but it's 5 years 5 Seasons to late.
I agree with you that Stiles is probably not RJ cuz we know that RJ should be about Jane's age. But i don't think that he is too old to kill.Trinity wasn't too old either. XD
Every Van Pelt/Rigsby scene is so hard to watch! I'm on the edge of my seat all the time: Are they going to get it on, or is Joe the Janitor going to kill them in the elevator??!!
Did I detect heat between Hightower/Patrick? I did love their banter. AE was great and SB was incredible. The kidnapped part was my favorite. Patrick was in his element the whole episode. Biting, sassy, having go at Kirkland yet serious and determined in control. I would like a younger, happy and less jaded woman for Patrick because she has to be full of life to be a good fit for him. Love more flirting with Hightower.
That's why i think RJ is more connected to visualize and not necessarily part of the organization, and thats also how brett stiles factors in this theory, everyone knows who RJ is but they cant or wont stop him because he has protection from stiles and visualize... i wonder if after the facts of 513(i think?) stiles maybe took him under his wing... idk now i think im just rambling xD
because the first few eppisode are much more serialized, so it doesnt seem a procedural... thats why its better every scene or dialogue is much more interesting because its all about RJ ^^
maybe you see love because you wanna see it? all that i saw(at least from s01 to s05 was a relationship between friends, close friends , two people that trust each other... maybe after RJ is gone we will see something... what i think you dont count is the fact that as long RJ is free, Patrick is not going to get close to anyone, especially Lisbon (see what happened to Kristina)
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still a bit with the ending but i definitely enjoyed it
ReplyDeletelooks like reed Smith is involved but he is not RJ probably a friend, and I believe Kirkland is a good guy
ReplyDeletemaybe but he freaked me out
ReplyDeleteit was pretty obvious when they kept showing Kirkland about to torture Jane that he was a red herring, even though this seems to point to Smith as a likely RJ candidate, I think that he's just an underling to RJ
ReplyDeletethe worst part is RJ is a LEO who job is to protect the protect from criminals like him and there is a conspiracy group covering up murder
ReplyDeleteI believe he(smith) was trying to get intel on Kirkland and DHS investigation......I hope someone else at DHS knows about the group of high ranking LEO cover up Murder.
ReplyDeleteI think Kirkland was killed so CBI won't look bad as it kidnapped one of it employee to keep reputation good
you are right Smith is scary and I don't think killing Kirkland and making it look he escape would work with everyone as jane will know it involves RJ. It obvious the transport guard is corrupt and an associate of tiger tiger conspriacy group
ReplyDeleteso now 5 suspect remaining and probably they all are a part of the same organization, RJ is a part of that organization but visualize has to factor in somehow so here my theory (RJ is Haffner) and Stiles is the mastermind of this organization and sees Haffner as a son...
ReplyDeleteGreat episode! So,i guess the suspect list is down to 4 now....(i agree with the previous post about Smith:i don't think that he is RJ)
ReplyDeleteI dont think Stiles is RJ he just too old and don't seem to be physical to pull it off
ReplyDeleteQuality of this season is much higher than the last 2.
ReplyDeleteYep. He's part of the Tiger group. Which seems oddly similar to HR from person of interest, except HR as far as we know does not harbor a serial killer. :D These guys are far more dangerous than them.
ReplyDeleteSo, I guess what they are trying to do here is show us that there is a larger organization with resources that Red John is simply utilizing to carry out his deeds. So after Jane has killed Red John this organization will be what carries the mythology forward. But I hope that is not the case. It would be a little anti climactic.
But I should give the show credit for bringing back so many elements from past episodes and tying up lose ends. But I wonder how Bret Stiles and Visualize factors into all this. I don't think it's part of the law enforcement group. Because we know that Red John when he was a much younger man started out his killings in a Visualize chapter.
The Reason to me why this show is Failing thats in my own opinion it's because this RJ has gone on for way way way to long.
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Another reason is that for the previous 5 Seasons there has always been Flirty banter between Jane and Lisbon whether You want to believe it or not and 1Million% Fact it's not a Brother/Sister Banter thing it's a love Flirty banter thing and the problem there is simple why make them flirt and banter over the past 5 seasons and even in the few episodes of season 6 that have aired already and yet the creators and writers have ruined the chance of us jisbon fans seeing them together in a Relationship.
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Personally to me it's ruined to even consider starting a Relationship in Season 6 because it's not like it's looking good for a Renew of a Season 7 so why o why to me the creators and writers ruined everything with this show letting RJ last this long no Jisbon at all the name Jisbon should be just erased because there not even together so Jisbon is a shipper name yeah but it's 5 years 5 Seasons to late.
This show is :(
RIP Robert and Michael Kirkland!
ReplyDeleteBe at Peace
I agree with you that Stiles is probably not RJ cuz we know that RJ should be about Jane's age. But i don't think that he is too old to kill.Trinity wasn't too old either. XD
ReplyDeleteThe moment they stopped..he knew it was over..sad..
ReplyDeleteEvery Van Pelt/Rigsby scene is so hard to watch! I'm on the edge of my seat all the time: Are they going to get it on, or is Joe the Janitor going to kill them in the elevator??!!
ReplyDeleteWell interesting episode. Red John keeps getting even more mysterious and i don't get how will they reveal him and who will it be.
ReplyDeleteThe BEST episode of season 6.
ReplyDeleteDid I detect heat between Hightower/Patrick? I did love their banter. AE was great and SB was incredible. The kidnapped part was my favorite. Patrick was in his element the whole episode. Biting, sassy, having go at Kirkland yet serious and determined in control. I would like a younger, happy and less jaded woman for Patrick because she has to be full of life to be a good fit for him. Love more flirting with Hightower.
I know what you mean each time I see them happy I keep expecting a disaster to happen.
ReplyDeleteThat's why i think RJ is more connected to visualize and not necessarily part of the organization, and thats also how brett stiles factors in this theory, everyone knows who RJ is but they cant or wont stop him because he has protection from stiles and visualize... i wonder if after the facts of 513(i think?) stiles maybe took him under his wing... idk now i think im just rambling xD
ReplyDeletewell kirkland is vigilante, hes a killer, well was, i knew that when he invited Patrick to visit him in prison he was going to die after the scene ^^
ReplyDeletebecause the first few eppisode are much more serialized, so it doesnt seem a procedural... thats why its better every scene or dialogue is much more interesting because its all about RJ ^^
ReplyDeletemaybe you see love because you wanna see it? all that i saw(at least from s01 to s05 was a relationship between friends, close friends , two people that trust each other... maybe after RJ is gone we will see something... what i think you dont count is the fact that as long RJ is free, Patrick is not going to get close to anyone, especially Lisbon (see what happened to Kristina)
ReplyDeleteA series can do both procedural and serialized episodes and have both be interesting. It's the pacing that is important.
ReplyDeleteBut to into consideration that Kristina was taunting RJ Huge difference.
ReplyDeleteI love Jane and Hightower since Red All Over with "their dancing" against Stiles LOLOL!
ReplyDeleteI LOVE how they call each other's names!