Emma ahhh! Gah no! Stop! Charmings not looking to good there. Snows going to blow a gasket when she finds out he's been holding out on her! And what WHAT really now, after this last episode your gonna pull this on us no! seems like we took two steps forward with "Nasty habbits" now this ones gonna be two right back where we were afther "common fairy" Guys come on your killing us.
I love Past!Hook, and ProtectiveFather!Charming. I'm not going to comment on Hook/Emma, because I have no big allegiance either way and I want to stay out of the rabid shippers way on this one. Go whoever! I just want Emma to be happy! Team Emma?
That's actually a really smart move. I do in fact ship Hook and Emma, and even I am seriously annoyed by all the hate being thrown around by both sides. I mean, that comment section for the image of Hook and Emma kissing was just so stupid.
Next week's looks great! As much as I love Emma/Neal, I also love Emma/Hook (I love Emma with so many of the male characters). I can't wait to see why they kiss since Emma said she loves Neal! I'll leave it that about the kiss.
But Past!Hook, dear lord! I can't wait to see it!!
I feel like I've been waiting forever to get the scoop on Hook's back story, so I can't WAIT for this... I have to say I didn't expect him to be what seems to be a "good" guy. And Emma and Hook? I'll take it. The rabid shippers can attack now, but color me intrigued.
Ha, not in my mind. I try to ignore down votes. I don't down vote in less a comment is nasty. I don't think down votes should exist. Only "flags" for unkind posts/posters that should be reported.
Unfortunately the Voting Wars are always fought behind computers. There will never be an end to the long war as long as it's lead by people who summarize their opinion with a "I click the button now, yay!" approach.
It's not out of kindness. I'm just mature enough to accept that people have different opinions. As long as it doesn't get nasty, I don't get ruffled by it.
I'm looking forward to seeing Hook's back story . . . not so much about the kiss, though. I mean, yeah, that's kind of "hot", but I am 100% for Neal/Emma being endgame. I hope they give a valid reason to why Emma's kissing him so shortly after declaring she never stopped loving Neal. Sigh.
I would just like to point something out that I have noticed. In season 2, I was lead to believe the entire fandom hated Captain Swan because of the Spoilertv comment sections. Then I actually visited other forums and tumblr and stuff and realized how wrong I was.
What I've noticed is that there is an abnormally large number of Captain Swan haters present here on Spoilertv. Like a stunning amount.
That scene is missing context. Also, she loved Neal. They've been apart for about a decade. It's strange how people keep forgetting that he was only back in her life for an extremely short time. She's been with other men since before he came back.
Entertainment Weekly did an article and when the actors were interviewed they were saying that the main reason she kisses Hook is because he gets them super closer to saving Henry. I know that it turns into like a whole make out session and I can't explain that, but there is a reason for kissing him besides the fact of she may like him.
I feel like with tumblr, it's very easy to become polarized and kind of sequestered within your own portion of fandom. Here there are more general viewers who are less about meta and more about criticism and varied opinions.
I can see your point of view, but agree with Aydrian and Ryan. She was in Neal's "home", imagining all the sh*t he went through as a kid. And to her, its been less than a week since he died. So remembering someone you had feelings for, who you just lost, in pain is probably going to bring about some emotion.
I don't mind if they're dudes involved. I like seeing more Emma in any way possible. I can't make up my mind about Hook. Season 2 he creeped the hell out of me most of the time! I like him this season, trying to help out and all. End game I see Neal/Emma, they deserve their happy ending, but I don't mind a little Hook/Emma along the way :)
YES. Been waiting for captain swan moment like that for two seasons already. Will be interesting to see what's going on. Hopefully its NOT a fakeout.
On another note, am I only one noticing that Charming is slowly acting more and more like his evil brother did, as he realizes he is getting closer and closer to death? Lots of character development material there. Snow is NOT going to be happy when she finds out what is going on with Charming though.
There are just so many things I feel could be explored about Emma that do not include forcing love triangles. Emma needs to be fleshed out a bit more as her own character.
That kiss was gross (not saying this because I don't ship CS) it was like well the only way I can explain is that it seemed more like a porno kiss it was just all over the place.
For my part,I'm really excited for Hook's back story.It seems that he knew Pan way before he went to Neverland after Milah's death.It'll be great to see that playing out.It has been teased that there is a connection between the two characters. And while I'm not in the whole shipping thing,it'll be fun to see where Emma/Hook goes.Definitely not surprised by this turn of events and it has the potential to be a relationship with completely different dynamics than those we already have with Snow/Charming and Belle/Rumple. In my opinion the way the story has been told so far,favors them over Neal/Emma.But we'll see.
What an incredible episode. I don't know about you guys but Peter Pan is absolutely making this season for me, kinda like when Ben appeared on LOST. everything is so much better and I feel every episode is better than the one before. this season is definitely my favorite.
You can kiss someone for reasons completely foreign to love. You know, Hook's hot, Emma's pissed, she's worried sick about Henry, she wants to get her mind off of things, it happened. Based on this promo, that is probably all we can say, there's no way to determine if they had "a moment" or something.
The question is not if she knows that Milah was Hook's lover.She does know.She has seen the tattoo on his arm and even ask him about it.And she also knows that Rumplestiltskin killed her. The question is if she knows that Milah was also Neal's mother. Until recently I thought that we were supposed to take for granted that at some point,off screen,everyone was informed about the whole thing with Hook,Rumple and Milah.But I'm not so sure anymore. It'll definitely be interesting if it turns out that they don't know the whole story yet.But I'm not expecting it to affect Emma's relationship with Neal.She already knows that he was abandoned as well.I think it'll have to do more with the relationship between Hook and Neal.And hopefully,Rumple and Neal,because it's definitely something that NEEDS to be addressed.
my thing is why hate it was obvious that the plot was going to go that way. duh Not to mention signs of this poss hook up began when they first met, before Neal even reappeard in Emma's life. I'm more interested to see how this obvious triangle ends and where does tink fit in.
Actually I'm loving Charming being stay away from my daughter mode. its interesting seeing that threat with a sword instead of a rifle lol
It's pretty obvious she doesn't know. I don't think Neal and her had enough time to discuss things like that and Hook has always made sure to talk about Neal in a way that would not give away that he was already involved with Neal's mother. He must know too that after she knows Emma being Emma she'll take two big steps away from him.
Omg, Hook in that costume. It's really weird not seeing him in his normal trench coat an all'. Ah, it's weird aha. Not a bad weird, but different weird.
About time they acknowledge that, I don't know why does the show gives Mary Margaret all the parenting scenes, I would like to have some more Charming/Emma
Put it like that, it becomes a pretty twisted love triangle ahah. From Neal's POV, Hook is the guy who took away his mother and now could potentially take away his "girlfriend".
I think they should have James come back in some sort of vision or something to confront Charming. I always thought that story was underutilized, there is so much potential there to develop Charming by using James.
I would love more Charming/Emma scenes too! But I have no idea if we're ever going to get them soon/as often: I recently read an interview with Josh and he said that Charming is being a hands-off parent with Emma. Just sitting back a little, letting her do her thing, and offering advice/support when he feels she needs it. So who knows when we'll get some father/daughter bonding.
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No thank you to Emma/Hook. Hee at Charming threatening him.
ReplyDeleteWhoa at past!Hook. Not what I was expecting.
Cannot wait for next week!
Emma ahhh! Gah no! Stop! Charmings not looking to good there. Snows going to blow a gasket when she finds out he's been holding out on her! And what WHAT really now, after this last episode your gonna pull this on us no! seems like we took two steps forward with "Nasty habbits" now this ones gonna be two right back where we were afther "common fairy" Guys come on your killing us.
ReplyDeleteYes thank you to Emma/Hook. Sorry, just had to create a counter opinion before all the haters upvoted you like crazy. ;)
ReplyDeleteThis episode emma was crying about how much she loved neal and next episode she's sudden over it and kissing hook. that doesn't add up.
ReplyDeleteI love Past!Hook, and ProtectiveFather!Charming. I'm not going to comment on Hook/Emma, because I have no big allegiance either way and I want to stay out of the rabid shippers way on this one. Go whoever! I just want Emma to be happy! Team Emma?
ReplyDeleteThat's actually a really smart move. I do in fact ship Hook and Emma, and even I am seriously annoyed by all the hate being thrown around by both sides. I mean, that comment section for the image of Hook and Emma kissing was just so stupid.
ReplyDeleteNext week's looks great! As much as I love Emma/Neal, I also love Emma/Hook (I love Emma with so many of the male characters). I can't wait to see why they kiss since Emma said she loves Neal! I'll leave it that about the kiss.
ReplyDeleteBut Past!Hook, dear lord! I can't wait to see it!!
I feel like I've been waiting forever to get the scoop on Hook's back story, so I can't WAIT for this... I have to say I didn't expect him to be what seems to be a "good" guy. And Emma and Hook? I'll take it. The rabid shippers can attack now, but color me intrigued.
ReplyDeleteAnd oh they will. May God have mercy on your soul. Those people are batshit crazy.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's quite that simple - especially based on a 30 second promo.
ReplyDeleteLOL I downvote you, but I like you, you're hilarious!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd thank you for seeing the humor in it. ;)
ReplyDeleteTo each their own. I didn't down vote you.
ReplyDeleteNot here for Hook/Emma, but this looks like a really fun episode! Lol @ Charming.
ReplyDeleteReally kind of you.
ReplyDeleteBut wars of downvotes/upvotes are always fun!!! :P
ReplyDeleteHa, not in my mind. I try to ignore down votes. I don't down vote in less a comment is nasty. I don't think down votes should exist. Only "flags" for unkind posts/posters that should be reported.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately the Voting Wars are always fought behind computers. There will never be an end to the long war as long as it's lead by people who summarize their opinion with a "I click the button now, yay!" approach.
ReplyDeleteRabid fans tend to be immature.
ReplyDeleteCharming, you had a better reaction to the guy who abandoned Emma than you did to Hook. I think your priorities are a little weird.
ReplyDeleteAnd some people just like the down vote button. Clicking on it like they have no life (some probably don't). lol
ReplyDeleteIt's not out of kindness. I'm just mature enough to accept that people have different opinions. As long as it doesn't get nasty, I don't get ruffled by it.
ReplyDeleteIn comparison, it's still a kindness.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking forward to seeing Hook's back story . . . not so much about the kiss, though. I mean, yeah, that's kind of "hot", but I am 100% for Neal/Emma being endgame. I hope they give a valid reason to why Emma's kissing him so shortly after declaring she never stopped loving Neal. Sigh.
ReplyDeleteI never stopped loving my first long term girlfriend. That doesn't mean I was incapable of loving my next girlfriend.
ReplyDeleteAlright, then.
ReplyDeleteBut it's kinda too soon.
ReplyDeleteI would just like to point something out that I have noticed. In season 2, I was lead to believe the entire fandom hated Captain Swan because of the Spoilertv comment sections. Then I actually visited other forums and tumblr and stuff and realized how wrong I was.
ReplyDeleteWhat I've noticed is that there is an abnormally large number of Captain Swan haters present here on Spoilertv. Like a stunning amount.
we can down vote up vote... cool.
ReplyDeleteYeah that was bullshit. People got harassed because assumptions were made about ships, and it was a bloody mess.
ReplyDeleteits a greif kiss. She's lost remember.
ReplyDeleteIs it? I mean, weren't they separated for the better part of a decade? She's been with other men.
ReplyDeleteThat scene is missing context. Also, she loved Neal. They've been apart for about a decade. It's strange how people keep forgetting that he was only back in her life for an extremely short time. She's been with other men since before he came back.
ReplyDeleteI'd say though that there is no wrong way to mourn the death of a loved one. If Emma seeks comfort in another person, all the more power to her.
ReplyDeleteEntertainment Weekly did an article and when the actors were interviewed they were saying that the main reason she kisses Hook is because he gets them super closer to saving Henry. I know that it turns into like a whole make out session and I can't explain that, but there is a reason for kissing him besides the fact of she may like him.
ReplyDeleteThis may be my favorite comment ever.
ReplyDeleteI feel like with tumblr, it's very easy to become polarized and kind of sequestered within your own portion of fandom. Here there are more general viewers who are less about meta and more about criticism and varied opinions.
ReplyDeleteThat's another way to look at it.
ReplyDeleteYes, but she was still quite upset this episode. Matter of opinion.
ReplyDeleteJoin my team, it's called "Team show-us-some-of-Emma's-past-and-give-us-development-that-doesn't-involve-dudes". It's a great team.
ReplyDelete"stay away from my daughter" I love it when Charming goes all papa bear :D
ReplyDeleteAlso I'm not happy about the Emma\Hook scene, I like hook's character a lot but I LOVE Neal\Emma.
ReplyDeleteI can see your point of view, but agree with Aydrian and Ryan. She was in Neal's "home", imagining all the sh*t he went through as a kid. And to her, its been less than a week since he died. So remembering someone you had feelings for, who you just lost, in pain is probably going to bring about some emotion.
ReplyDeleteI don't mind if they're dudes involved. I like seeing more Emma in any way possible. I can't make up my mind about Hook. Season 2 he creeped the hell out of me most of the time! I like him this season, trying to help out and all. End game I see Neal/Emma, they deserve their happy ending, but I don't mind a little Hook/Emma along the way :)
ReplyDeleteThe word is "LOVED". She acknowledged she had feelings to him. I doubt she knows how she FEELS now(after the whole prison thing) about him.
ReplyDeleteYES. Been waiting for captain swan moment like that for two seasons already. Will be interesting to see what's going on. Hopefully its NOT a fakeout.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, am I only one noticing that Charming is slowly acting more and more like his evil brother did, as he realizes he is getting closer and closer to death? Lots of character development material there. Snow is NOT going to be happy when she finds out what is going on with Charming though.
In a way, Emma "mourned" Neal for years, since he abandoned her.
ReplyDeleteThere are just so many things I feel could be explored about Emma that do not include forcing love triangles. Emma needs to be fleshed out a bit more as her own character.
ReplyDeleteThat kiss was gross (not saying this because I don't ship CS) it was like well the only way I can explain is that it seemed more like a porno kiss it was just all over the place.
ReplyDeleteVIVA LA SWAN QUEEN!
ReplyDeleteThere. I just had to say it.
ReplyDeleteFor my part,I'm really excited for Hook's back story.It seems that he knew Pan way before he went to Neverland after Milah's death.It'll be great to see that playing out.It has been teased that there is a connection between the two characters.
ReplyDeleteAnd while I'm not in the whole shipping thing,it'll be fun to see where Emma/Hook goes.Definitely not surprised by this turn of events and it has the potential to be a relationship with completely different dynamics than those we already have with Snow/Charming and Belle/Rumple.
In my opinion the way the story has been told so far,favors them over Neal/Emma.But we'll see.
What an incredible episode. I don't know about you guys but Peter Pan is absolutely making this season for me, kinda like when Ben appeared on LOST. everything is so much better and I feel every episode is better than the one before. this season is definitely my favorite.
ReplyDeleteSomeone tweeted yesterday Jennifer Morrison if Emma knew that Hook was Milah's lover:
ReplyDelete. ecrc @snow_bluebird10h
@jenmorrisonlive Emma knows that Hook was Milah's lover?
Jen replied:
. Jennifer Morrison @jenmorrisonlive
. @snow_bluebird excellent question #onceuponatime #uglyducklings
You can kiss someone for reasons completely foreign to love. You know, Hook's hot, Emma's pissed, she's worried sick about Henry, she wants to get her mind off of things, it happened. Based on this promo, that is probably all we can say, there's no way to determine if they had "a moment" or something.
ReplyDeleteThe question is not if she knows that Milah was Hook's lover.She does know.She has seen the tattoo on his arm and even ask him about it.And she also knows that Rumplestiltskin killed her.
ReplyDeleteThe question is if she knows that Milah was also Neal's mother.
Until recently I thought that we were supposed to take for granted that at some point,off screen,everyone was informed about the whole thing with Hook,Rumple and Milah.But I'm not so sure anymore.
It'll definitely be interesting if it turns out that they don't know the whole story yet.But I'm not expecting it to affect Emma's relationship with Neal.She already knows that he was abandoned as well.I think it'll have to do more with the relationship between Hook and Neal.And hopefully,Rumple and Neal,because it's definitely something that NEEDS to be addressed.
"Stay away from my daughter". Awwww, Daddy Charming.
ReplyDeletemy thing is why hate it was obvious that the plot was going to go that way. duh Not to mention signs of this poss hook up began when they first met, before Neal even reappeard in Emma's life. I'm more interested to see how this obvious triangle ends and where does tink fit in.
ReplyDeleteActually I'm loving Charming being stay away from my daughter mode. its interesting seeing that threat with a sword instead of a rifle lol
Great promo ! I can't wait to see more of Hook's backstory (that involves Pan before Hook went to Neverland !!!) !
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty obvious she doesn't know. I don't think Neal and her had enough time to discuss things like that and Hook has always made sure to talk about Neal in a way that would not give away that he was already involved with Neal's mother. He must know too that after she knows Emma being Emma she'll take two big steps away from him.
ReplyDeleteIdk, he wasn't exactly warm to Neal either. I'm not sure they even exchanged words?
ReplyDeleteHook's backstory looks really great and he looks so much more adorable in the flashbacks.
ReplyDeleteOmg, Hook in that costume. It's really weird not seeing him in his normal trench coat an all'. Ah, it's weird aha. Not a bad weird, but different weird.
ReplyDeleteWow wow wow, Hook's backstory, finally! I've really grown to love his character, I can't wait for this! I am enjoying this season so much
ReplyDeleteHook and Peter Pan belong to the same fairytale story so it is about time that we get the show's version of their history, I can't wait!
ReplyDeleteAbout time they acknowledge that, I don't know why does the show gives Mary Margaret all the parenting scenes, I would like to have some more Charming/Emma
ReplyDeletePut it like that, it becomes a pretty twisted love triangle ahah. From Neal's POV, Hook is the guy who took away his mother and now could potentially take away his "girlfriend".
ReplyDeleteI think they should have James come back in some sort of vision or something to confront Charming. I always thought that story was underutilized, there is so much potential there to develop Charming by using James.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, it's no worse than Neal claiming to be in love and wanting to marry Tamara and then declaring his love to Emma on the same day.
ReplyDeleteI would love more Charming/Emma scenes too! But I have no idea if we're ever going to get them soon/as often: I recently read an interview with Josh and he said that Charming is being a hands-off parent with Emma. Just sitting back a little, letting her do her thing, and offering advice/support when he feels she needs it. So who knows when we'll get some father/daughter bonding.
ReplyDeleteReally? that's disappointing. I really don't understand why thy they refuse to develop that relationship, it's very strange
ReplyDeleteI don't ship Emma with anybody, but I do love Charming acting all protective.
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