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Final Adjusted TV Ratings for Sunday 27th October 2013
Oct 29, 2013
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Did OUAT do better than last week?
ReplyDeleteIt is so damn annoying that Revenge doesn't stop falling!
ReplyDeleteYup, at this rate they would have to cancel or finish it in this season. .
ReplyDeleteTo think about it that may not be such a bad idea.
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ReplyDeleteI think the show still has a lot of places to go to creatively. As far a renewal goes, it can still fall more because other than Shield everything bombed on ABC, but it has to stop at some point, syndication will not protect it forever.
ReplyDeleteRvenege please why dont you adjust up¿? Ugh is so hard, this season is so good and it just keep falling
ReplyDelete3rd episode into the season and the walking dead still tops its numbers from the season 3 finale. Extremely impressive considering it not only went up against sunday night football but also the world series
ReplyDeleteSeries low for Revenge ?
ReplyDeleteTied yes
ReplyDeleteAgree, at least some good news from this night ratings wise
ReplyDeleteYes it did better :)
ReplyDeleteGood, good!
ReplyDeleteI knew a site exited where I could find those from last week but I didn't remember the URL :p
ReplyDeleteThanks anyway.
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ReplyDeleteGo DDD!!!
ReplyDeleteWhy does revenge keep dropping it's so damn annoying seriously if it drops any lower than that then there's no hope that it will rebound. Nielsen viewers suck
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that the show has so much potential creatively but viewers are just not giving it a chance to formulate
ReplyDeleteUgh, somebody save Revenge! I honestly think ABC should at least try it at 10pm instead of 9pm. I know there's always the fear that moving a show would make things even worse because the existing audience might not follow it, but you never know how many new people would tune in at a different time*. So far, new shows haven't hacked the 10pm slot, so it seems to me they might as well try Revenge there. That would get it away from TWD which it doesn't stand a chance against.
ReplyDelete* It's often said "a show in in third season isn't going to pick up new viewers, it's had its chance". Personally, I don't think that's true. It's not like all the people who stopped watching Revenge sent out a memo and now EVERYONE knows it's a bad show and won't watch. There are probably plenty of people who have never watched it, or perhaps even heard of it, because it's scheduled against something else they like. A timeslot change opens up new possibilities, people who aren't currently watching something at 10pm and might have watched the show all along if it had been scheduled there. It's worth a shot.
It feels like the relatively weak second season (I still enjoyed it but I know it's downright hated by many people) scared off half of the audience. Ironically, the show has recovered and is considerably stronger this season, but the viewers are already gone. Most people don't give a second look to a show, which is sometimes a shame.
ReplyDeleteI think.most of it has to do with competition because in the first half of season 2 it was getting ratings like 2.4-2.8 but then when award.shows started coming it's ratings began dropping. But I hope people will give it another chancr
ReplyDeleteI would be bummed to lose Revenge after this season, but on the other hand I do feel that even with the new burst of creative energy this season, it's going around in circles. When is the Emily/Daniel engagement going to be wrapped up for good? Is she ever going to reveal the truth or take down either Conrad or Victoria? It feels like she still hasn't made any serious traction in her revenge quest. Sure, she's pulled off some individual takedowns, but her main enemy, the Graysons, is still at large. She can humiliate them at public events a dozen more times, but she's not able to land any crushing blows - it feels like her plan is stagnant .
ReplyDeleteThe writers need to be gutsy and have some kind of major game-changer, that takes the series in a new direction. In creative terms, that's the only way to keep the show going - if this status quo remains in place in Season 4, it's going to get ridiculous. I really hope Ems getting shot at the wedding (possibly faking her death?) is a turning point for the story.
I think that the writers need to do a sweeps episode of revenge maybe that will bring in some ratings
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand next weeks episode looks like.a nail biter since Nolan is a fan favorite.I hope that people will at least watch out of curiosity
ReplyDeleteYeah, having to go up against The World Series (which people would prefer to watch live while DVR'ing whatever else they want to watch) and The Walking Dead is downright deadly. I think ABC should try to move Revenge an hour later, it's not like Betrayal is gonna stay there much longer. And perhaps put Once Upon a Time in Wonderland in the Sunday 9pm slot, to see if having the show it's spun off from as a lead-in can help.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if they should move it an hour later they should just move it back to Wednesdayat 10 and put Nashville on Sundays at 10 and a new show after once upon a time
ReplyDeleteHmm... I tried looking in on it this season, because of comments that it had recovered its quality, but the aftertaste of last season was too strong. Haven't managed to finish an episode yet. It's a shame too, since I really liked this show in its first season.
ReplyDeleteCreative wise, it would be "fun" if the Revenge game was turned around after Emily has jailed the Graysons. The Graysons then takes revenge on Emily. I love Revenge but I'm tired of hearing "final step of the game" for a long time.
ReplyDeleteThe Mentalist's late time slot on a Sunday is SO annoying. Especially because its delayed almost every time... Definitely turned away a lot of viewers. But the content of the show just gets better :)
ReplyDeleteYeah, I've seen that suggestion a while ago and I think it would be a great way to breathe new life into the series.
ReplyDeleteI feel that the show has had plenty of turning points to be honest. Jack learning the truth was the first one. This being said, I think that the show can completely reinvent itself when the truth about Emily's identity becomes public and it would be extremely interesting to see how all relationships with shape out with that knowledge public. I think she would still go after them but she would have to completely change her tactics. I think the show would have life in it for a couple of seasons at least after the reveal, I don't see it as something that has to come out on the very last episode by any means. As for her having yet to take them down, I would say that between bankrupting them, being about to marry their son, all the public humiliation, besides added bonuses such as stopping Conrad from being the Governor she is doing a pretty good job. I mean, unless she kills them (which is not her goal) or sends them to prison, for which she needs a confession, that's pretty much all she can do now IMO. But she appears to have a more long term plan for the wedding so we shall see what happens by then.
ReplyDeleteI hope CBS is aware of those delays.
ReplyDeleteI am so mad at ABC for moving REVENGE from Wednesdays. Some say it's the writing that turned people off but IMO the second season was still great, if not for a few hit and miss episodes. They need to move Revenge to a weekday, preferably it's season one time-slot, or else >:(
ReplyDeleteI feel like moving it to 10 would just make things worse. It would make people think that ABC had just given up on the show. They need to move it to a weekday.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree. Revenge could get way better numbers than Nashville. I mean it already has.
ReplyDeleteI've seen some suggestions to move it back to its original slot, Wednesday 10pm, but I don't know what they would do with Nashville in that case. They're not ready to give up on that show, either.
ReplyDeleteAn interesting idea would be to move Grey's Anatomy an hour earlier on Thursday and sandwich Revenge between GA and Scandal at 9pm. Both are strong shows so Revenge might win some new viewers that way. I've been saying that IRT new shows being premiered on Thursday at 8pm - I don't know why they keep doing it when it's clear no new show can survive that slot. If they want to premiere something new on Thursday night, do it at 9pm and move GA to 8pm.
I agree that having Ems reveal her identity publicly would be a great game-changer. I'm just not sure how they could do it, because she would get in serious trouble if everyone knew she was Amanda Clarke. Swapping identities with Fake Amanda wasn't exactly legal, and in addition, knowing who she is would probably make it possible to connect the dots and expose some of the dirty deeds Emily has done. If they can find a way to have her "come out" as Amanda without landing her in jail or anything, I'm all for it.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the damage she's done to the Graysons, you do make a good point - I think my problem is that the writers haven't outlined Emily's specific goal. She wants revenge, but how? She's not out to kill them as you mentioned. I'd assumed she wants to expose them and exonerate her father, but then we had one of the most GTFO ridiculous, bang-your-head-against-a-desk moments ever when she threw THE LAPTOP CONTAINING ALL THE EVIDENCE SHE NEEDED into the ocean. So what on earth does she want? That's why the whole "getting Conrad to confess" storyline was problematic for me - she already had everything she needed last season. Is she so determined to have the Graysons themselves confess, as opposed to exposing them via other evidence? That just seems silly.
Finally, more and more people are complaining that it's not clear why she's so obsessed with marrying Daniel. I always thought she just formed a relationship with him to get closer to the Graysons, but since she's determined to have a wedding no matter what, it must be part of her plan. I hope it ends up being explained properly. (There's a theory that she wants to expose the truth in front of everyone at the wedding, to crush the Graysons in the most painful way possible - but I don't think it's true, as next week's promo shows that she's planning a honeymoon cruise.)
There honeymoon cruise *is* going to take place, though - that's where she gets shot in the flash-forward. But I guess that could mean that whatever she planned for the wedding had failed, and she had to continue to play along.
ReplyDeleteI like that idea. Then they could move OUATIW to Sunday after it's parent show, it's not like it's going to survive that long anyway sadly... As long as they get Revenge the hell out of Sundays, I'm ok.
ReplyDeleteIt certainly makes sense. :) And if Revenge moves, I agree that it would be a good idea to try Wonderland in the Sunday 9m slot. It's going to die in its current slot anyway, like you said, and being a OUaT spin-off it might benefit more from it as a lead-in than Revenge did.
ReplyDeleteI would move it to Thursdays after Scandal. Do Grey's-Scandal-Revenge. I think they would win the night
ReplyDeleteI don't think Revenge could take the 9pm hour of Thursdays and it could hurt Scandal in the process, which is the last thing they should do. In my opinion, it should be Grey's Anatomy-Scandal-Revenge on Thursdays and Shield-OUAT-Ressurection on Tuesdays. Enough of the crazy idea of having serialized dramas on Sundays already.
ReplyDeleteI think we often exaggerate in the moves that we want them to make. Don't forget that everytime we move a show, inevitably some viewers don't follow. In addition, you have to let go some advertiser revenues in order to use that ad spot to promote the move of your show. It's more complicated than it looks like, especially if we are talking about in-season moves, which is why I was so angry with ABC for having left OUAT and Revenge to die on Sundays at the end of last season. This being said, I do think they don't do moves nearly as often as they should.
ReplyDeleteYeah, moving the entire Shonda block an hour earlier on Thursday and putting Revenge pn atc10pm works too. I guess I prefer Revenge at 9 and Scandal at 10 because then you only move one show, not two. And I don't think it would hurt Scandal because ot actually grows out of its lead-in, rather than depend on it.
ReplyDeleteDon't mistake a show growing out of is lead-in and being independent from it - it's the New Girl-Glee effect:
ReplyDelete- if a show grows out of its lead-in, it means that it is able to keep the people that were watching the show before and add some new people that tune in exclusively for it
- if a show is independent of its lead-in, it means that it is able to make all of its audience tune in specifically for it.
Grey's Anatomy is an example of an independent show because it has had various and various lead-ins and its audience doesn't change because of that. Scandal, as much as I adore it, has yet to show that. It is naive to believe that it would not be a bit hurt from Grey's absence. I think it would do fine, but I don't think its current 3.0 demo is 100% its own. Back in the fall of 2011, New Girl was hitting very high numbers following Glee, consistently outgrowing it. However when Glee was put on hiatus, New Girl saw its number sliding, only to recover when Glee was put back as its lead in. This shows that there was a significant portion of Glee viewers that also happened to watch New Girl because it was after it. This doesn't mean that the base of independent New Girl viewers wasn't higher than Glee's, but the lead-in was still helping it.
Granted, they shouldn't be too quick to move shows around because not everyone would catch the promos indicating a new timeslot; some would just stop watching when they see it's no longer on at the usual time. And yeah, there's the cost of promotion. Still, when a show is free-falling, you don't have much to lose.
ReplyDeleteI think what annoys me is that they give up on shows too quickly. Take Last Resort from last season (and I didn't even like it that much): it was an expensive show to produce, and they promoted the hell out of it, only to put it in the cursed Thursday 8pm slot (which was unwise in itself, but never mind that right now). When it crashed and burned, what did they do? That's right, nothing. They just waited until it was so low that they HAD to cancel it (although to their credit, they did give the writers notice so they could write a proper ending). Couldn't they have at least tried it in a different slot for a couple of weeks? I think there's a mistaken assumption that if a show fails in one slot, it will necessarily fail wherever you put it. While that's sometimes true (like Happy Endings last season), I don't at all agree with it as a generality. It's not like the whole world gives the show a try, decides it's bad and stops watching. There's a very specific audience that watches a show at a particular timeslot. People who already watch something else there and don't have the DVR space aren't going to try it out even if it's the kind of show they would like. In a different slot, it could be a whole different story. Maybe tons of people don't have anything else to watch that night at that hour. I just think, given all the work that goes into producing and promoting a show, that it's silly to toss it in the trash if it's not a hit straight out of the gate.
P.S. You'll have to excuse my bitterness here, I still can't help wondering what would've happened with Nikita if The CW hadn't dumped it in the Friday graveyard after one season (where it aired after TVD, which we know in retrospect to SUCK as a lead-in, no matter how well it performs in and of itself).
I agree scandal and revenge would make a terrific combo but the question is ABC likely to move it after scandal I
ReplyDelete- I didn't think about the legal repercussions of having her revealed publicly as Amanda but I think it could be solved. I mean, even if Victoria and Conrad would figure out she was responsible for a lot of what has happened, they wouldn't exactly be able to prove it. As for the identities swap, I am not sure people actually go to jail for that. It was a consensual thing, not a stolen identity type of thing. I think they could walk around that. This being said, I don't want her to reveal who she is just yet. I am loving the show way too much as it is and I don't feel it stale at all.
ReplyDelete- You are right about them not revealing what her ultimate goal is. I view it as something that I am sort of willing to sacrifice for the sake of the show, because otherwise it wouldn't be very rationale. I do think though that this season it looks like she has a much more clear endgame, and even Jack is pressuring her to finish this, and now even Nolan, so I think you'll get your wish and she will have to reveal what her end goal is.
- The marrying Daniel thing I think is 100% part of the plan and I think we will get an answer to that soon. The honeymoon I don't take it as anything because just because she is saying she is going to one doesn't mean she actually is going. She would have to plan a honeymoon regardless or else it would be suspicious.