TVLINE | Oliver meets The Canary this week. How does that affect the core team of Oliver, Felicity and Diggle?
What creates the biggest wave is the fact that we’ve learned there’s another extremely powerful fighter in town. But she’s helped us, so what does that mean? She’s extremely dangerous, so we’re on-guard, but also thankful. [Laughs] We never had to be thankful with Helena. She wasn’t ever helpful in any sort of way. It just creates a whole bunch of waves and equations to figure out that’ll definitely take time.
TVLINE | What’s Felicity’s personal take on The Canary?
[There's] an awe that she is a woman, and she’s extremely…powerful. She surprises herself at how intrigued she is because it is a very dangerous situation. Felicity’s changing. She’s not becoming immune [to the danger] or numb to it. She’s allowing herself to live with it more. So she’s extremely intrigued by The Canary, as [are] Diggle and Oliver. It’s really important for them to find who she is and what she’s doing here.
TVLINE | Does Felicity get to have any one-on-one interaction with her?
We get to look forward to one scene. We don’t get to see very much, but possibly in the future. We are [only] on Episode 10.
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What creates the biggest wave is the fact that we’ve learned there’s another extremely powerful fighter in town. But she’s helped us, so what does that mean? She’s extremely dangerous, so we’re on-guard, but also thankful. [Laughs] We never had to be thankful with Helena. She wasn’t ever helpful in any sort of way. It just creates a whole bunch of waves and equations to figure out that’ll definitely take time.
TVLINE | What’s Felicity’s personal take on The Canary?
[There's] an awe that she is a woman, and she’s extremely…powerful. She surprises herself at how intrigued she is because it is a very dangerous situation. Felicity’s changing. She’s not becoming immune [to the danger] or numb to it. She’s allowing herself to live with it more. So she’s extremely intrigued by The Canary, as [are] Diggle and Oliver. It’s really important for them to find who she is and what she’s doing here.
TVLINE | Does Felicity get to have any one-on-one interaction with her?
We get to look forward to one scene. We don’t get to see very much, but possibly in the future. We are [only] on Episode 10.
Read full interview at TVLine
Great interview thanks for the link
ReplyDelete"The Olicity moments aren’t her water or her oxygen. I think they’ll continue to happen, but Oliver really needs to step up his game in terms of that."
ReplyDeleteThis makes a world of sense and it's why I wish people would stop pushing so hard for this to happen. Oliver has never shown a modicum of romantic interest in Felicity Smoak whatsoever. The interest seems completely one-sided and it's starting to make the so-called "moments" feel forced. If (and that is a big "if") the writers are interested in making these two happen, I wish people would just ease up and let them do it at their own pace so it feels like natural character progression instead of a gesture of fan appeasement.
On the flip side, Rickards follows up her comment with this:
"She’s not going to wait around forever."
Wait for what? It's not like she actually spoke up and declared her interest in Oliver. All she's offered so far is word salad and a new, tight-fitting wardrobe. If she's as strong and independent as Rickards claims she is, why doesn't Felicity bite the bullet and say something to him?
Don't get me wrong. I like Felicity and I've never had a problem with her interest in Oliver. I'm just scratching my head over some of the contradictions and mixed messages here.
Once again, and I can't believe how many times I have said this, not NEARLY as many Olicity fans are pushing for it as you seem to believe. Spend more than ten minutes on tumblr and you'll see that while most of us are excited to see it happen, we're not in any hurry. We're perfectly patient. Of course, there are always those people who want everything to happen right away, but I can tell you with certainty that the majority of the Olicity fandom isn't in any hurry.
ReplyDeleteThis pushing you're seeing is almost entirely in your head.
"Spend more than ten minutes on tumblr"
ReplyDeleteThere's where you lost me. I'd rather pull my fingernails out with a pair of pliers than spend 10 seconds on tumblr. :)
"This pushing you're seeing is almost entirely in your head."
When the inboxes of people who do spoiler columns are routinely flooded with the same "Olicity" questions and when Arrow topics are regularly more populated with posts and heated discussions when they contain tidbits of info or videos of the two people in question, it's plain to see that the push isn't in my head. Vocal interest pushes stuff like this forward, whether it seems demanding or not.
There's a HUGE difference between being excited about something and pushing for it. I think you're painting all ships with the same brush. The Olicity fandom isn't pushing for anything. Your unwillingness to actually go and verify that is somewhat disconcerting.
ReplyDeleteAs for inboxes being flooded with questions about it, the people who are making this a much bigger thing are the interviewers who keep asking about it, and the article writers who keep choosing the Olicity questions. It's a case of the vocal minority and the opportunistic writers who keep exploiting their questions in order to get more page views.
"Your unwillingness to actually go and verify that is somewhat disconcerting"
ReplyDeleteThe fact that you're suggesting I use tumblr as a method of fact-checking is what's disconcerting as is your use of the term disconcerting in general. Considering the subject matter, I'm really hoping that it's just hyperbole on your part.
You're judging a fandom without actually knowing anything about that fandom. tumblr is pretty much the easiest way to get to know them. If you want to go somewhere else to find out more about the Olicity fandom, that's perfectly fine.
ReplyDeleteBut you keep jumping to conclusions about the fandom I'm a part of and it's really irritating.
Would you be so kind as to point out where I indicted the entire segment of Arrow viewers who are Olicity shippers? If my reading comprehension is still intact, I'm certain I didn't use words like all, entire, or every or even words like most or majority. I simply said people.
ReplyDeleteYou're the one jumping to conclusions and you took it upon yourself to defend people who aren't being attacked. There are people who watch this show who are pushing hard for this and, yes, they may be the "vocal minority" as you put it. The reality, however, is that the ones who get heard are the ones who speak up. You don't need a majority of shippers all pushing for the same thing to make something happen on a TV show. You only need enough people willing to relentlessly vocalize their wishes.
"This makes a world of sense and it's why I wish people would stop pushing so hard for this to happen."
ReplyDeleteUsing the name Olicity doesn't really matter. Are the Laurel and Oliver shippers pushing for Olicity? Who else on the show besides the Olicity fandom would have even the smallest interest in pushing for it to happen? Even those who ship Oliver and Felicity who aren't a part of the fandom itself is still considered a shipper. Unless you're talking about the people who ship them a little bit, in which case they wouldn't be pushing hard for it to happen in the first place.
The only people who would push for it to happen are those who are emotionally invested in its outcome. So either the Olicity fandom, or the people who aren't part of the fandom but still ship them, or....? There's no logical third party.
Who knows, maybe you mean some other group of people entirely that I have never heard of who is pushing for it to happen. But the Olicity fandom is not one of them. Do you know how I know this? Because they LOVE to chat and the easiest way for them to do that is on tumblr, which I visit. And I seriously doubt those who aren't part of the fandom give a damn enough to push for something...on their own.
So that's what I'm wondering. If you didn't mean the Olicity fandom, who do you think is pushing hard enough for people to take notice?
And just for the record, I have SO very rarely seen a "pushed for" ship actually work, that is if it even starts up in the first place. In just this year alone they've killed at least half a dozen big ships within a season or less. Most of the time within the first six eepisodes. So I don't know how this pushing is actually doing anything.
"So that's what I'm wondering. If you didn't mean the Olicity fandom, who
ReplyDeletedo you think is pushing hard enough for people to take notice?"
You're either generalizing or you're just not understanding. One or the other. I am referring to a specific segment of viewers (as I have already mentioned) who are invested in the Oliver/Felicity relationship. Not all of the people who enjoy that aspect of Arrow make this relationship the end-all / be-all of the television series but those who do are the ones who push and they are the ones who make their voices heard at every opportunity.
Now that I'm done re-explaining that, I'm out. The very last thing I would ever purposely do is to hijack a perfectly fine interview topic into a tit-for-tat about shipping and/or shippers.
Honestly...Tumblr? Everyone knows that this is the place where the bottom of the barrel of every fandom meets.
ReplyDeleteAs I said above...the very last place I would go to "get to know" a fandom is tumblr. There are other places were the sane fans meet (not saying that everyone there is insane, but the worst fanatics are always there). It's like judging the Harry Potter fandom based on the ranting of a die-hard Harminion.
ReplyDeleteI think what Rickards is trying to say (or at least what I got from it) when she said, "Oliver really needs to step up his game" and "She’s not going to wait around forever", is that Oliver hasn't shown any interest in her so she is still keeping her options open. But if he does in fact have feelings for her then he should make that apparent. Despite Felicity not declaring her feelings out aloud doesn't mean that they're not there.
ReplyDeleteStephen said in an interview that when Barry Allen comes into the picture there will be feelings Oliver will have to deal with in regard to his relationship with Felicity.
I, personally, am not in any rush to see things drastically happen between Felicity and Oliver, but I am looking forward to seeing the dynamics and their relationship change over time and in, like you said, a natural progression.
great review. She said a lot of the things i said weeks back. More confident, putting Ollie in his place etc. Glad she said Olicity isn't her oxygen. She has become stronger and more "adventureous" and i LOVE that about her. But don't get me wrong, i am a Olicity fan as well, i love their moments (can't wait for that dance scene) but i am in no rush to see them get together. As i said way back in s1, they probably won't even go there til s3. possibly s4. And i'm cool with that. I can't wait to see Barry come and sweep her off her feet. I mean she deserves some attention too. Oliver is very suttle with his feelings towards Felicity, sometimes it drives me crazy!!! Then other times i just say well he hasn't really acknowledged them yet, BUT they are there. I see them every now and then. It's small, but it's there. He does have an attraction, but his mind is so focused on "queen bee" Laurel, he can't notice anything else...Anyway i'm looking forward to more felicity and Diggle scenes. I love when they work together, they're so fun to watch. Def. want to see more BC scenes, with Ollie and the gang...and i will be on cloud 9 when the Flash, wooshes his way onto our screens!! Very exciting!
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