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POLL : What did you think of Revenge - Fear?

Sep 30, 2013

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28 comments:

  1. DetectivexoSeptember 30, 2013 at 3:44 AM

    Very awesome and very revenge-y

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  2. R VassilissaSeptember 30, 2013 at 5:06 AM

    This episode deserved the highest high five and a golden badge of awesome! Each of the characters actually had character development! And there were so many great plot twists, I lost count. The Emily/Victoria scenes really do stand out, though, they were the best yet, I could get used to this new dynamic. :)
    This season's off to a great start!

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  3. Nichole HammSeptember 30, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Good. It had a 'nostalgic' Season 1 vibe. Thanks, Sunil Nayar..

    However, Jack is still annoying, should have just killed him off last season. Never cared for the character and increasingly likely I never will.

    Daniel is probably going to have an affair with the french lady. Would anyone be surprised? No.

    Victoria is a little bit too touchy-feely with Patrick. Come on woman, he's your son and your daughter mistook him for the plaything.

    Patrick could be interesting later on. He seems sincere right now, but come on, abandoned for a life of potential power isn't going to sit well with anyone. Charlotte's got him on the run right now, but I doubt it'll be for long.

    Thrilled that Charlotte's pregnant storyline is done, but I'm sure it'll pop up it's ugly head again. Maybe Victoria or Conrad led to the miscarriage. Anyway, she's back to loving her dad and again but I'm sure that won't last long.

    Nolan's out of jail (that was easy), and they're back at their conniving. At least Ashley's out of the way. She's just as bad as Jack in my opinion.

    You seem to have something against Aidan, but I always thought he was an interesting character. I've liked him from his introduction, and always felt he'd be the better match than Jack or Daniel. With his coming to Victoria to take down Emily, well, I'm sure there's more to the story. Emily needs to learn not to burn her allies.

    Nolan's out of jail (that was easy), and they're back at their conniving. At least Ashley's out of the way. She's just as bad as Jack in my opinion.

    You seem to have something against Aidan, but I always thought he was an interesting character. I've liked him from his introduction, and always felt he'd be the better match than Jack or Daniel. With his coming to Victoria to take down Emily, well, I'm sure there's more to the story. Emily needs to learn not to burn her allies.

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  4. InvestedInYourFutureSeptember 30, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    The moment when I was about 40 minutes into episode, Emily was doing an awesome revenge scheme and Aiden was still nowhere to be seen, I was 100% convinced that changing the show-runners helped the show immensely.,

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  5. MeatyStakesSeptember 30, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    I really didn't like that almost all characters motivations REALLY changed from the last season's finale; it just feels like everything got sweept over to make a new story. Not a fan. And the fact that they did the "months later" thing just heightened the disconnect.


    What happened to the initiative? What's with Conrad's position with them? This just feels reboot-ey.

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  6. Ghost00September 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    It is rebooted. Most fans didn't like season 2 so they are ignoring a bunch of stuff in season 2 and trying to get back to season 1 feel. The only thing that bothers me is Charolette losing the baby because that makes Declans whole story pointless.

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  7. adamw200664September 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Loved it :D I'm so glad the show is back and I predict great things to come with this season :D

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  8. Nichole HammSeptember 30, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Good. Declan was useless, a pointless character. 'Revenge' was already to be get rid of him since the end of the first season.

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  9. SpikeSeptember 30, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Dafuq was that ending? Next week can't come soon enough!

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  10. Lilith HellfireSeptember 30, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    It's nice to have Justin Hartley back on my screen. Love all of the Emily and Nolan time we got. Adios Ashley. Jack, I don't even know what to say about that character right now. Charlotte, umm, take it down a notch. Awesome episode, we're definitely back on the revenge track. But Aidan better be playing Victoria for the sake of Emily otherwise, he can get a red sharpie X on his face too.

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  11. omabinSeptember 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Hell yeah, Revenge is back! Awesome episode. Unlike many, I did love the back half of season 2, I thought it had some of the show's stronger episodes, but it was still nice to see it getting back to roots and become more simplified. All characters were top notch, loved Emily and Nolan's revenge scheme, and loved seeing Victoria and Emily taking down Ahsley. I would like to know what Ayden' deal is though, why is he against Emily? I bet it is play, he should be alined with her.

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  12. omabinSeptember 30, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    I agree with this. Declan was always one of the worst aspects of the show, he added nothing. I really don't mind that nothing came out of the storyline if they figured that they could use Charlotte better this way

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  13. MeatyStakesSeptember 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Yeah, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous, they are still a group that got together to blow up a plane. The finale also said that Connie became one of it's leaders, as if everything he did was to become part of the inner circle, because they are still active. What happened to that?


    Seriously, this premiere just threw a lot under the rug (even Charlotte's freaking baby) Last season had uneven crappy writing, but this season just had shitty writing.

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  14. MeatyStakesSeptember 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    But it is so badly done, they are just pretending a lot of the stuff didn't happen and that is just awful writing.


    Completely agree about Charlotte, dead bf and baby would have made a good drama for her, now she is just bitchy.

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  15. Bruce_FSeptember 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Being in the inner circle meant he was no longer a pawn and got to not only have input on any plans they might come up with but also to financially profit from them. Unless the group comes up with another financial scheme, "the initiative" is dormant.


    Charlotte's baby wasn't thrown under a rug (ick). She lost it, which was a good decision not only for the show but for Charlotte's motivation going forward. With the exception of Jack, very little has actually changed on Revenge but thankfully the focus has been sharpened.

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  16. Maggi MarcusSeptember 30, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    I hated it. Felt so off even the actors didnt seem to try enough. I really tried to see the Revenge I fell in love with but it isnt there anymore.
    Ashleys dress was so horrible.
    The lighting and colors were in each scene extremly and disturbingly different, the editing itself was really strange. Emily and Charlotte cut in the middle of the convo.
    I just couldnt connect with it at all, not the story (didnt get hooked at any SL), actors (some were truly bad) anything really.


    Only few things I liked were Nolan and the first scene, it was beautifully filmed.
    Yet I feel like I might not tune in next week, really disappointed

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  17. Bruce_FOctober 1, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    "I get that, what I don't understand is why Connie didn't use them in her
    view for congressional power. He has tremendous resources and contacts
    through the initiative, and that didn't even got a mention."


    The group behind the initiative has enacted two big plans in a span that stretches between 20-30 years, most of the time between being complete dormancy. I doubt that getting Conrad a job would be significant enough for anyone to intervene on his behalf. Their prior actions make it clear that they're not the kind of people who would associate with anyone who can't handle their own business.


    "Lost my baby, whateves"



    That's not an accurate description of how it was handled. After Charlotte's first encounter with her mother (after fleeing The Hamptons for months to presumably distance herself from her family and her problems), she became visibly uncomfortable every time the child was brought up and that's about all you're going to get out of the character after a significant time jump. If the incident had just happened it would be different.


    I think it's safe to say that we took away two very different impressions from the premiere.

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  18. MeatyStakesOctober 1, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    It's not like they are plot holes or retcons that contradict previous stuff, I'm actually more lenient to that. More than a plotting issues, it's definitely a plotting problem.


    Last season ended in a high, with deaths, explosions, pregnancies and revelations, and next episode choses to make a time jump and loose all that momentum? that's the crappy writing, that's the sweeping under the rug. Months after the events, of course we won't get more than just mentions to events, that's what just feel so pointless.


    It's just that, the finale was kinda the only stellar moment of the last season, and disregarding the momentum of it, what kinda made the whole season mean anything, it just feels jarring.


    It's just not how you fix a bad season (cause S2 was not the best) The time jump was just a lazy copout, and I stand by that.

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  19. Bruce_FOctober 1, 2013 at 2:00 AM

    I don't know that it was a loss of momentum but a calculated way to get out from under the ample dead weight from last season that had viewers fleeing from the series to begin with. Admittedly, excising that dead weight went more smoothly in some parts of the premiere than it did in others but it was a necessary step nonetheless.

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  20. T BennettOctober 1, 2013 at 5:10 AM

    It was definitely a clean-up job. I think this is the first comment I've seen where someone mentioned bad acting. I must agree. Several were trying too hard, Crista Allen mainly w/her bitchy bangs routine. Some of dialogue was really clumsy.

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  21. MeatyStakesOctober 1, 2013 at 5:28 AM

    I agree that it was necessary, but I just didn't like at all how they went about it.

    Time skips are tricky, and unless they work to enhance the plot itself, they are just wasteful. You just don't do a timeskip because you don't know how to tie up some plots, that's the lazy writing.

    That's my issue with the episode. If not for the retcon vibe, it was actually pretty good. It just feels like they didn't want to out any effort in closing those threads properly, and that sits very unwell with me.

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  22. Bruce_FOctober 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    I honestly believe that they would have given those plot threads more time if they had been received better by the audience but most, if not all, of the corner cutting was focused on aspects of Revenge that viewers actively disliked. So, in a situation where they'd normally tie up loose ends they opted to burn them off instead all in the interest of moving on and moving forward.


    It's like a field amputation on a gangrene leg. It's not something you want to do unless you have to but if it's not hacked off right away it's just going to fester and take everything else with it.

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  23. MeatyStakesOctober 1, 2013 at 5:59 AM

    I agree it might be serviceable and necessary, but you still are left with a show without a leg, and you notice there's a leg missing, and you ask yourself "what happened to the leg?"

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  24. Bruce_FOctober 1, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    Viewers were fleeing the show. It was a drastic necessary measure and considering all they chopped off it could have been a lot worse from a storytelling standpoint.


    The stark reality is that this is a make or break year for Revenge. They lost a third of their viewers and half their demo over the course of a single season mired in characters and plots few people liked and so Revenge went from hit to bubble show. They needed to hit the ground running in season three and if they have to do that with a prosthetic leg (I've officially played out that metaphor) then so be it.


    If a rocky premiere episode was necessary for a better, streamlined, more entertaining season then I'm okay with that.

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  25. MeatyStakesOctober 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    I do hope it pays off, regardless how how little I liked it from a pacing and plotting standpoint.

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  26. Thomas MechOctober 1, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Hm, don't know what to say. First half of the episode was pretty lame. Then finally something happened. Random thoughts: I'm glad Justin Hartley is less Oliver Queen than I feared. What did they do to Charlotte's face and hair? Revengy Aiden is promising. Also liked the storyline of making everyone believe that Conrad's sick (though it was made too obvious for the viewer). Don't care for the French lady.

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  27. Bruce_FOctober 1, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    I second that. If the viewers that sampled the premiere don't buy into this course correction then I'm afraid that this show will be a goner by season's end.

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  28. Bruce_FApril 8, 2014 at 5:35 AM

    There is no initiative. Don't you remember Conrad's explanation from the finale? The Initiative is completely made up. A group of like-minded business people created the fictional "initiative" as a boogeyman they use to force people to do their bidding when the need arises.

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