Re: (the horrid title) "Doggie Style" I want Riot to have run away from AmeliaDon and be scratching at the MoL Bunker door, lol (I know that won't happen). Did the show PTB's learn nothing from the poor fan and critical reception that MBFWB received?
Doggie Style. The hell, man... I think it's the one that Dean will communicate with animals? Just please, change the title. It's not funny, just awful. :\
I'm sorry if I was short... This title annoyed the hell out of me. You have no idea how much I want you to be right and "Dr.Dean Little" is the actual title, lol.
Seriously, I'm a "brother bond" fan, too, and I strenuously object to other "fans" assuming favoring the 'Bro Bond' automatically means you support "canon" Wincest.
I do, Castiel is awesome. I don't ship Destiel romantically, I like the dynamic they have as a kind of Brotp, but I like Castiel as a character overall.
'Bad Boy.' Gosh I wish Sam and Dean were. bad boys at this point!
They have both been reduced to pussy-cats. I want my smart, capable ,bad-ass, monster killing brothers back ,although I'm aware that those brothers no longer exist under Carver's reign of bad, infantile OOC writing! X As for the other title, Edlund may have left but his immature humour lives on! Even if they do change the name; 'Doggie Style' is just such a horrible title to come up with even temporarily.
'Man's Best Friend With Benefits' ,when the title was first revealed, made nearly everyone think the same thing and when the episode did air, it was even worse than one thought.
A dog-woman who is made to keep her collar while human. Really!
I don't know who wrote that ep., but they'll probably give it to the same writer, as they already have experience of dogs! Poor Supernatural, in the hands of these inadequate writers!
I don't believe they learned anything from last season at all unfortunately.
The writers all come over as arrogant and convinced their wishy-washy vision for SPN is the right one.
I dislike the idea of writers being influenced by fans in any way ,but they do have to make a better effort into producing a thrilling, logical enticing show; not just throwing together any old script and thinking fans will love it just because we get a gllipse of Sam and Dean, or Carver throws in a 'brother moment', to compensate for his mistakes. X
Singer candidly admitted that not even his wife who is a writer for SPN could answer questions about canon. Well all she and the others have to do is spend some time studying the show's past and come up with good answers.
It's their duty as professionals and it's only fair towards the show and the fans who spend time and money following it.
So what if there are some loud persistent complainers online--I respect the writers for ignoring that nonsense and not being bullied and led by the nose.
Thats because apparently to alot of people you cannot watch a show without shipping something together . It isnt a lens I watch a show through any show let alone SPN and its relationships.
We're saying the same thing here. I do NOT want the writers to be influenced by fans in any way, and to follow their creative vein; but that doesn't mean they can throw down any old mediocre writing, which in my opinion they did in season eight.
Thank you all so much Elena and Cyana and for posting your thoughts on wincest.. I feel the same way and yet I am considered abnormal in my facebook group for disliking it.
For me the brothers have a deep, emotional, caring bond, and due to the solitary life-style and 'hunting' upbringing they had, are very-codependent. It's what fascinates me about them. X
For me that's it though. Wincest does NOT come into the equation at all. X
However, all the writers from the first moment, have been guilty of throwing in gratuitous wincest nods and jokes, including Carver.
I agree, BUT that does not mean they should not have to follow the shows canon, which they made a mess of last season. I read very few complaints of season 8 that was not about that very thing.
They don't just exist unfortunately...There's just too many of them!!!I mean the majority of fanifcs are wincest,destiel and WINCESTIEL.Yes there is Wincestiel as well.For example,it has happened so many times to me that I want to read a good fanfic and it starts so well but then you read about Cas kissing Dean or Dean having sex with Sam.I MEAN REALLY?!?!WTF IS WRONG in some people's heads?!
I don't really have any problem with a ship. It's a fan call to like what they do and it's up to me to read it or not.
It's when the shippers start demanding their ship to be Canon and offend people who don't share their views that it's a problem for me. A huge problem. And disrespectful as well, IMO.
I think Wincest is disgusting. The idea of Sam and Dean having sex is truly nauseating to me so I skip right past those fics. I don't get it; however, if others want to read it, go right ahead. I don't get Destiel either. I'm one of those viewers who has genuinely NEVER gotten a romantic or sexual vibe from ANY Dean/Castiel scene . . . -EVER. Haha! As Elena said, Dean is not gay or bisexual. And from all the times we've seen Cas "lose his mind," he's always managed to find himself a WIFE so even if he has sexual feelings, I don't believe they would be for men. He was also clearly into Meg. Anyway, I agree that these slash pairings need to stay in the fandom.
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LOL at Doggie Style. Wonder what the hell that one's going to be about (please don't be the images my mind is unfortunately conjuring right now).
ReplyDeleteDoggy style. Wonderful.
ReplyDeleteBad Boys. Original.
When's the next writer's strike?
Doggie Style...THE DESTIEL TSOUNAMI IS COMING. :S
ReplyDeleteI KNOW, RIGHT?
ReplyDeleteWhere's my classic rock titles and dark ambient locales and well-written twist-filled story arcs?
:(
Doggy style?
ReplyDeleteIs that how Dean's gonna give it to Cas? Ha, jk, but seriously...why torture me like that?
Re: (the horrid title) "Doggie Style" I want Riot to have run away from AmeliaDon and be scratching at the MoL Bunker door, lol (I know that won't happen). Did the show PTB's learn nothing from the poor fan and critical reception that MBFWB received?
ReplyDeleteI misread that as "Is that how DEATH'S gonna give it to Cas?"
ReplyDeleteOOPS.
You hit it right on the head!
ReplyDeleteEwww.
ReplyDeleteWho cares about HIM?
ReplyDeleteDoggie Style. The hell, man... I think it's the one that Dean will communicate with animals? Just please, change the title. It's not funny, just awful. :\
ReplyDeleteYes, I bet this will be the ep that Dean talks to animals.
ReplyDeleteYou got me all wrong.I absolutely HATE the possibility.My skin crawls at the thought.That is why I said that...
ReplyDeleteYeah, it was the... second I though of. And if it's animals in general like the spoilers said, this tittle isn't just awful, it's inaccurate as well.
ReplyDelete???
ReplyDeleteAhhh I see... NO kidding.
ReplyDeleteBut the title for that one was "Dr.Dean Little"...They said it at the con...
ReplyDeleteI don't think it was the actual tittle, they just used the movie as a reference/joke.
ReplyDeleteOh,ok then...
ReplyDeleteHaha... Doggie style, so may bad thoughts
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry if I was short... This title annoyed the hell out of me. You have no idea how much I want you to be right and "Dr.Dean Little" is the actual title, lol.
ReplyDeleteOh God PLEASE let them NOT go there...WHEN WILL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND DEAN IS NOT GAY.Let's not talk about those who think WINCEST is normal.UGH.
ReplyDeleteYou and me both :S
ReplyDelete(((Hugs))) for saying this! I don't want any - ahem - part of "Destiel" either but I seeing "it" surge again since Sacrifice.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, I'm a "brother bond" fan, too, and I strenuously object to other "fans" assuming favoring the 'Bro Bond' automatically means you support "canon" Wincest.
ReplyDeleteYa episode titles have never ever changed before.
ReplyDeleteI'll can almost guarantee Doggie Style will be changed before it airs. Probably just a place holder title.
I do, Castiel is awesome. I don't ship Destiel romantically, I like the dynamic they have as a kind of Brotp, but I like Castiel as a character overall.
ReplyDeleteAs JustinC00 said hopefully the title's just as placeholder.
ReplyDeleteLOL Doggie Style, huh? Oh the Dean/Cas images...
ReplyDeleteHa! Not soon enough.
ReplyDeleteSo the Winchesters are up to mischief? :)
ReplyDeleteSecond title ;first thought was a shifter but maybe talking dogs? It seems a very obvious episode.
Okay...for fandom's sake change that second title writers.
ReplyDeleteomg 9x06 is the worst title EVER
ReplyDeleteThat's a thing, ugh that's disgusting. Please don't tell me Sam/ Dean slash shippers exist because oh god...
ReplyDelete'Bad Boy.' Gosh I wish Sam and Dean were. bad boys at this point!
ReplyDeleteThey have both been reduced to pussy-cats.
I want my smart, capable ,bad-ass, monster killing brothers back ,although I'm aware that those brothers no longer exist under Carver's reign of bad, infantile OOC writing!
X
As for the other title, Edlund may have left but his immature humour lives on!
Even if they do change the name; 'Doggie Style' is just such a horrible title to come up with even temporarily.
'Man's Best Friend With Benefits' ,when the title was first revealed, made nearly everyone think the same thing and when the episode did air, it was even worse than one thought.
A dog-woman who is made to keep her collar while human. Really!
I don't know who wrote that ep., but they'll probably give it to the same writer, as they already have experience of dogs!
Poor Supernatural, in the hands of these inadequate writers!
I don't believe they learned anything from last season at all unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteThe writers all come over as arrogant and convinced their wishy-washy vision for SPN is the right one.
I dislike the idea of writers being influenced by fans in any way ,but they do have to make a better effort into producing a thrilling, logical enticing show; not just throwing together any old script and thinking fans will love it just because we get a gllipse of Sam and Dean, or Carver throws in a 'brother moment', to compensate for his mistakes.
X
Singer candidly admitted that not even his wife who is a writer for SPN could answer questions about canon. Well all she and the others have to do is spend some time studying the show's past and come up with good answers.
It's their duty as professionals and it's only fair towards the show and the fans who spend time and money following it.
So what if there are some loud persistent complainers online--I respect the writers for ignoring that nonsense and not being bullied and led by the nose.
ReplyDeletePlease change that awful 906 title! Please! I'm begging you! *shudders*
ReplyDeleteThats because apparently to alot of people you cannot watch a show without shipping something together . It isnt a lens I watch a show through any show let alone SPN and its relationships.
ReplyDeleteWe're saying the same thing here. I do NOT want the writers to be influenced by fans in any way, and to follow their creative vein; but that doesn't mean they can throw down any old mediocre writing, which in my opinion they did in season eight.
ReplyDeleteOkay then we will have to disagree on S8--1 thru 5 are my favorites. S8 though not perfect still easily worked for me.
ReplyDelete"I don't know who wrote that ep., but they'll probably give it to the same writer, as they already have experience of dogs!"
ReplyDeleteThis! :')
The writing is apparently only going downhill...
Thank you all so much Elena and Cyana and for posting your thoughts on wincest.. I feel the same way and yet I am considered abnormal in my facebook group for disliking it.
ReplyDeleteJust to throw in my own two cents.
ReplyDeleteFor me the brothers have a deep, emotional, caring bond, and due to the solitary life-style and 'hunting' upbringing they had, are very-codependent. It's what fascinates me about them.
X
For me that's it though. Wincest does NOT come into the equation at all.
X
However, all the writers from the first moment, have been guilty of throwing in gratuitous wincest nods and jokes, including Carver.
I agree, BUT that does not mean they should not have to follow the shows canon, which they made a mess of last season. I read very few complaints of season 8 that was not about that very thing.
ReplyDeleteJim Michaels Tweeted they're no longer using "Doggie Style" as a title.
ReplyDeleteI didn't expect that to but I hope they keep bad boys and hopefully referring to the Winchesters :)
ReplyDeleteI don't trust him, but this time I sure as hell hope he's telling the truth.
ReplyDeleteThey don't just exist unfortunately...There's just too many of them!!!I mean the majority of fanifcs are wincest,destiel and WINCESTIEL.Yes there is Wincestiel as well.For example,it has happened so many times to me that I want to read a good fanfic and it starts so well but then you read about Cas kissing Dean or Dean having sex with Sam.I MEAN REALLY?!?!WTF IS WRONG in some people's heads?!
ReplyDeleteI don't really have any problem with a ship. It's a fan call to like what they do and it's up to me to read it or not.
ReplyDeleteIt's when the shippers start demanding their ship to be Canon and offend people who don't share their views that it's a problem for me. A huge problem. And disrespectful as well, IMO.
Yippee!
ReplyDeleteCheck Klutzy Girl's reply from 4 hours ago: Per Jim Michael's "Doggy Style" is no longer the title.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, it's now gone per Jim Michaels
ReplyDeletei read somewhere that theres going to be an episode where Dean talks to animals...
ReplyDeleteI know! It is so difficult to not find slash fic (Wincest or Destiel) that's it's ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteI think Wincest is disgusting. The idea of Sam and Dean having sex is truly nauseating to me so I skip right past those fics. I don't get it; however, if others want to read it, go right ahead.
ReplyDeleteI don't get Destiel either. I'm one of those viewers who has genuinely NEVER gotten a romantic or sexual vibe from ANY Dean/Castiel scene . . . -EVER. Haha! As Elena said, Dean is not gay or bisexual. And from all the times we've seen Cas "lose his mind," he's always managed to find himself a WIFE so even if he has sexual feelings, I don't believe they would be for men. He was also clearly into Meg. Anyway, I agree that these slash pairings need to stay in the fandom.
That's a relief!
ReplyDeleteI recommend the author Jedi Sapphire, from FF. There is no slash, only brotherly love. I adore her fics, they're amazing.
ReplyDeleteNooooo.....
ReplyDeleteI've only written gen fic for SPN, like it'd be an episode. That's probably the RAREST form of fic in Ficdom for Supernatural.
ReplyDeleteThanks! I'll have to check out her stuff. I love a good fanfic!
ReplyDeleteGirl, if you like brotherly bond, do it. You won't regret it, lol. Just get some Kleenex because you'll cry (all good tears, I promise).
ReplyDeleteSorry, it's just I'm totally her fangirl, haha.