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Aug 6, 2013

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  1. Carla GueseAugust 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Tinker bell as Charming's ex girlfriend? why not? That is a great twist.

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  2. stormqueenAugust 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    I'm honestly not sure if I want Callie to look past the cheating. On one hand, they've been really fucked up last season by a lot of shit but at the same time, I am really bored by cheating storylines on the show so I just want something to happen and for it to be over quickly.

    Pretty obvious Tinkerbelle is going to be connected to Regina. Everyone is connected to either Rumple or Regina and with Jen Morrison slipping that Regina has a previous connection to Neverland, it seems pretty secure. Hook and/or Bae would be obvious with the Neverland connection. Rumple is a pretty good guess but at this point he has screwed EVERYONE over so it'd be nice to not see him connected to Tink. It obviously can't be Emma or Charming. Possibly Snow though.

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  3. stormqueenAugust 6, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Well, they've definitely decided they're not playing with logic and their timeline already doesn't make any sense so why not.

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  4. LittleDreamerAugust 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    New Girl | I hope Jess is one of the two people getting tazed, that would be hilarious to watch.

    Grey's Anatomy |Can't wait to see what kind of nickname the interns come up for Cranky Callie.

    OuaT |My bet is on Snow.

    The Mindy Project | I'm glad Casey is a goner, I never really liked him. And single Mindy going on awkward dates is why I love this show.

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  5. FredaAugust 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    " Also, why does John have facial hair now? Answer: because Sherlock mustache John a few questions. Good night, America!" <--- LOL!

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  6. DarthLocke4August 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Although I agree with your assessment on OUAT, because I think that would be an interesting connection (Regina), Emma could still in theory still be connected. I keep hoping that as a child that maybe she did experience magic somehow (and with the Dragon, we know magic existed outside of Storybrooke as well)....In some renditions of Peter Pan (thinking about the beginning of "Hook" and knowing we have a Hook character: Rufio) Tinkerbelle is the one that comes and takes orphaned baby Peter to Neverland...

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  7. stormqueenAugust 6, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Unlikely.

    Especially since it's better both narrative-wise and character-wise if Emma hasn't had any connection with magic in our world so that her disbelief in season 1 was built in real world logic and knowledge rather than magic. It's already ridiculous enough that she met Neal.

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  8. DarthLocke4August 6, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Disagree, If Emma believed in/used/saw magic and something happened where she was told she was liar and she could never prove it--the incident could have scared her way worse than she already had been.

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  9. stormqueenAugust 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    That's exactly what I'm referring to. It's the most common childhood cliche and the show needs to work harder to avoid those.

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  10. DarthLocke4August 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    But it's a great juxtapostion to the possible origins of Peter Pan and most stories are full of cliche's. Heck Like could be considered a cliche'.

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  11. stormqueenAugust 6, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    I find the show at its weakest when it resorts to the most common tropes, especially for a show that claims to be about inverting such tropes.


    It won't be Emma, though she does deserve some less sexist flashbacks.

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  12. DarthLocke4August 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    I don't find it exceptionally cliche' when one idea is varied through several angles through several characters in contrast. To me that's an honest spectrum and that is what I see if they would take Emma as one of the connectors. -I'm not saying they couldn't do it with Regina too, but Regina was not an orphan and it was lies that Eva and Cora told that really lead to all of this...which is almost why it's important that Emma is better written this season in line with Peter Pan.

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  13. stormqueenAugust 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Yeah, I agree that it's important that Emma is better written. Which is why it's too bad that Neal is connected to Neverland. Because Emma's flashback was all about Neal/August and her unknowing connections to them and how they removed her agency and Hook, rather than about Emma herself. So having Emma have a connection to another thing removing her agency isn't the best for me. But it's definitely going to be Regina that Tink has a connection to.

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  14. gavrielle2110August 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Me too! I hope Callie forgive to Arizona sometimes

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  15. reptarjrAugust 6, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    This, this is exactly how people should debate online. No insults, just on topic responses. You guys are awesome.

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  16. Folie-lexAugust 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Firstly: "Trusty scoop-filled column"?
    HA!!!! Hahahahahahaha...can't...breathe...from...the...laughter...BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
    Case in point.... I don't even watch the Following and I know Madeline Zea is alive....


    The only new bit of info in there is easily the Callie is using the interns as her punching bag.

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  17. Folie-lexAugust 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    The only way I can see Tink being connected to Emma is if she was the one who acquired Henry and gave him to Rumple to give to Regina.... which actually connects her to more than just one person so I don't know how valid that theory is...

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  18. Folie-lexAugust 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    I find it hard to believe that it will make a "great juxtapostion", because the show has a history of handling those horribly....

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  19. DarthLocke4August 7, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    My angle with this was, what if Tink collects orphan children from other lands.

    But your way works, because we know that Rumple is already connected to Neverland through his son, so it could be that Tink is a procure and therefor via Rumple, Regina has a connection too. It's just a catch 22 in that Rumple has more than one connection...

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  20. DarthLocke4August 7, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    I know we will still disagree about this, but beyond execution problems, the contrasts and themes and mirrors and parallels were very strong. It's just it could have been done better and with more clarity. But I also think s2 mostly sowed seeds and introduced concepts needed for the long hall and to make better contrasts down the line.

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  21. DarthLocke4August 8, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Hi And Thanks!! I think most of us try pretty hard to be polite about our differences in opinion. :)

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  22. Folie-lexAugust 8, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    "I know we will still disagree about this, but beyond execution problems, the contrasts and themes and mirrors and parallels were very strong last season."

    My comment 100% referred to the show's horrible execution.

    Look I've said it before, these guys, have good ideas. But if they can't deliver - and they haven't delivered, even you say so - then I can't trust them.

    Good intentions, and themes parallels are great and all, and I get the whole "means to a bigger end" but IMO there's so much one can let slide before it all starts feeling pointless.

    All they do is say "you'll see - and it's connected - and it compares to so and so" but then there's no resolution to that. If all they do is "set up, set up, set up" but never play, then why the hell bother.

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  23. DarthLocke4August 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Did you hate season one also, because if you didn't, then that is where there is reason to trust them, because IMO they proved to me they knew what they were doing with that, as it is a very contained season.

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  24. Folie-lexAugust 9, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    I didn't hate S1. But I didn't love it either. And I didn't like it enough to give them a carte blanche.

    I found S1 to be naive, sloppy, cheesy and inconsistent.
    What I did give it credit for was that it had it's moments, because I did see some intent in all the themes and the ideas. However even those rarely ever turned into anything worthwhile, and when they did it usually felt too little too late

    In the end my overall feeling the first year was disappointment. But I was optimistic that it could get better.

    And so my approach coming into S2 was: "ok, the backbone seems to be there. And uneven first seasons are common as a show tries to find it's footing. Lets see how the second go-round is. Lets see if they've learned and fixed the hiccups."

    But what S2 did was take everything that absolutely sucked or didn't work or was done wrong in S1 and just amplified it.... and all the things that did work were put on he wayside.

    So no, I can't trust two guys that chose to focus on the things they did wrong in all the wrong ways. It is exactly why they haven't given me a reason to trust them.
    Me giving them the benefit of the doubt and showing faith and trust, was agreeing to come into S2 despite of the S1 mistakes. And they lost me because they didn't deliver anything worthy in S2.



    It's what I was saying, about how you can only be patient and show blind faith for so long before you feel you are just being jerked around without purpose. And these guys have zero focus. So all they do is jerk themselves, their character, their stories and the audience around.

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