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Depends on the show, the showrunner and the premise. I've seen shows that got repetitive as soon as their 2nd season and others that have kept it interesting for 6+.
Depends on the creator, writers, and the cast. A show can be stale after a few episodes, or it can be fresh, creative and exciting all the way til when the show ends on its own terms...
it really depends on the showrunner and the hype of the series in general. for example, Castle and Psych are both well into their 5th and 7th seasons respectively and are in my opinion more enjoyable and have vastly improved in quality than first year and second year shows like Unforgettable, Revolution, Touch, Smash, Nashville and Vegas. on the other hand, Arrow, Orphan Black, Elementary, The Following and The Americans have all exciting premises and are all great hits for me personally.
Depends entirely on the show. The show runner, the actors, crew come after the show is actually though of. So in a way it's the show that matters. If the show have extended history line with many characters to be shown, many stories to be told and many twist and turns to be made, the show can continue up to 10-12 season. But sometimes for the sake of money show are continued unnecessary. I can't give examples but there are a lot of examples of the opposite, with series not even in their first 1-2 episodes that studio starts to think of cancellation. And there for at least for me it depends entirely on the show if the show requires more season it will need them, but in these sometimes the shows don't get to finish their stories as they require, some being continued unnecessary other being cancelled too soon.
Depends on a whole thing and not one in particular. Some shows keep getting better and better (The Good Wife, Breaking Bad, Parenthood... etc.), that's incredible.
It depends on the show. While some shows may have had a great of perfect first season, some shows have really gone downhill after that because the original plot wasn't thought out for a few years. And some shows went better with the years because the actors got comfortable in their roles. But if you really ask me, I can manage to think up to six or seven seasons. Most of the shows *while they were still great* should have ended around six. Some shows with seventh, eighth and ninth shows are still great but not the same quality of that season six.
For example, Charmed landed it's solid footing in fifth and sixth season. That was the darkest and funniest ever for me. After that, great seasons. Not perfect. Fifth season was perfect for me.
Same can be said for One Tree Hill: The fifth season reinvigorated the show's premise by turning the characters a few years older. And quality wise, the fifth and sixth season was so good for me.
Procedurals can easily go on for plenty of seasons (even if they are all with 20+ episodes). I'd say heavily serialized shows (with 10-13 episodes per season) could go on for as long as five, depending on the premise. If a show is serialized, but mixed with a bit of filler/slight procedural (so 20+ episodes), I'd also say around five. Mostly it depends on the premise though and the showrunner's/writer's ability to manage to keep the story fresh. Some stories are only meant to run for 1-2 seasons at most.
A lot of factors come into play for this one, Bones lost its appeal for me after the 3rd year, got tired of the "clueless about life" from her and it got old quickly, where Castle just keeps getting better and better. The writers and showrunners are more important than the actors a lot of the time, they can take a show away from what fans loved and kill a good show fast.
Lose originality or popularity? Most shows are never original to begin with. Originality: most never, those that are original 1 to 2 years. Popularity: depends entirely on the show and the audience they have. Some of the least original shows have the longest running popularity because they're comfortable and unchallenging, except people still like to call them original just because they're fans and no one wants to admit they like something hackneyed.
Supernatural just took a breath of fresh air their second half of season 8. It took Jeremy Carver some time to clean up the mess, but after last night and the last few episodes, I can see it going past 10 seasons.
Everyone has said it and I agree. It depends on the cast, showrunner, the premise, the ratings (and the writers as well?). It's the writers that keeps each episode and each season fresh, and if the cast really enjoy the work then a show can go on for a long time. But if I really had to choose I would say between 8-10 seasons at least for a standard show with decent/good ratings.
If the ratings are excellent (NCIS for example which is renewed for Season 11) might be the exemption and can go on for a few more seasons. The thing that concerns me the most is that some of my favourite shows (e.g. on CBS) have been on air for a number of seasons and at some point in the future, TPTB will have to end those shows at the same time to add new pilots to their channel.
Really the biggest mess this season of why Sam did not look for Dean has not been cleaned up. There have always been a few eps in a season that I did not like, but that Sam flaw is the biggest one of the whole series, for me.
IMO it really depends on the show concept. Some concepts can be stretched for seasons and made fresh, while some run out quick. I'd have to say the Average is 3. though IMO. first season... grab your audience in Second season expand some more on your ideas add some twists. Season 3 (is the test) will it be fresh/new? Or will it be a somewhat repeat of what's already been done.
It depends on the writing staff and the paradigm of the show. With shows like Prison Break, IMHO, a short run will be more satisfying for the viewers. Tell the story and done instead of trying to stretch it out to multiple seasons for no reason other than trying to make money. (American Horror Story did this the smart way.) Some shows tell the type of stories that can sustain over several season but the writing needs to remain fresh. Miami Vice had, just about written itself out...they brought in new writers and had successful final season because the new staff told fresh and exciting stories.
I find that sitcoms tend to get stale faster, because they force themselves to work in everyone's schtick into every episode, leaving little time to tell a story.
All depends on the type of show and how creative the writers are. Some shows just shouldn't go on for a long time, not with the type of storyline it has. Others can go on for 10 years with a good writing team, and still be as good and maybe even better than it was at its start.
I will say a procedural has a far shorter time of remaining fresh than a serialized show!
I have yet to watch a procedural that did not start to feel stale by the end of Season 3. Some overcome that aspect by maintaining a quality f excellence in another part of the show like acting, VFX, writing etc... They can last 5 or 6 without becoming too repetitive for me to watch any longer.
The fact is, to put it simply, most procedurals feel like one another to begin with and after a short time all the plots seem to be somewhat familiar when compared to other procedurals of the same genre.
As everyone says it depends on the show and the people running it and most especially what the premise allows. Take Lost for instance, not a show that could have gone longer than it did but I thought while it could have been shorter and sweeter the journey was still enjoyable. CSI can run for 10 more years but if they bring in new minds and do new things technically the quality could go up or down year to year or be original or totally stale... not that I'm a CSI fan.
I am a firm believer that the optimum runtime for ANY TV show is between 5 and 7 seasons (depending on the story and the overall writing). As a compromise I voted for the average: 6
Anything more than that, and things will get tiring and repetitive, no matter how good the showrunner or the actors are.
I think a lot of shows recently have premises that are one season only, Revenge, The Following, Once Upon a time.... they are going to get stale quickly. looking at the list of shows to come a lot look the same.
others have lots of potential to run longer and keep original. however, it is based on the show runner as well and there willingness to change. shows get stale quick when they won't kill off/change cast, Heroes as a clear example
Except ratongs have nothing to do with quality. You could have a really great quality show with bad ratings. There are many variables in ratings Premise, cast/crew, writers, network, time slot, lead in, competition, day, buzz and quality bit quality isn't a huge factor over ratings then the other variables I listed. However if quality goes doen then ratings usually do with it but again that has to do with the writers.
Okay...*sheepish look* Yeah, I'm from Australia so I probably sounded dumb. Sorry *shrugs shoulders* But thanks for your input. However, what I said about some of the veteran shows, (using the term veteran with respect) and how long can they stay on air until pilots come on to replace them. That was my main concern and the reason why I made a comment. I would also like to hear your answer/thoughts to this poll. How long can a show stay on air? I chose 8-10 seasons.
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Depends on the show, the showrunner and the premise. I've seen shows that got repetitive as soon as their 2nd season and others that have kept it interesting for 6+.
ReplyDeleteDepends on the creator, writers, and the cast. A show can be stale after a few episodes, or it can be fresh, creative and exciting all the way til when the show ends on its own terms...
ReplyDeleteit really depends on the showrunner and the hype of the series in general. for example, Castle and Psych are both well into their 5th and 7th seasons respectively and are in my opinion more enjoyable and have vastly improved in quality than first year and second year shows like Unforgettable, Revolution, Touch, Smash, Nashville and Vegas. on the other hand, Arrow, Orphan Black, Elementary, The Following and The Americans have all exciting premises and are all great hits for me personally.
ReplyDeleteDepends entirely on the show. The show runner, the actors, crew come after the show is actually though of. So in a way it's the show that matters. If the show have extended history line with many characters to be shown, many stories to be told and many twist and turns to be made, the show can continue up to 10-12 season. But sometimes for the sake of money show are continued unnecessary. I can't give examples but there are a lot of examples of the opposite, with series not even in their first 1-2 episodes that studio starts to think of cancellation. And there for at least for me it depends entirely on the show if the show requires more season it will need them, but in these sometimes the shows don't get to finish their stories as they require, some being continued unnecessary other being cancelled too soon.
ReplyDeleteDepends on a whole thing and not one in particular. Some shows keep getting better and better (The Good Wife, Breaking Bad, Parenthood... etc.), that's incredible.
ReplyDeleteTwo or three if it's a 22 episode show. Three of four it it has shorter seasons.
ReplyDeleteIt depends on the show. While some shows may have had a great of perfect first season, some shows have really gone downhill after that because the original plot wasn't thought out for a few years. And some shows went better with the years because the actors got comfortable in their roles. But if you really ask me, I can manage to think up to six or seven seasons. Most of the shows *while they were still great* should have ended around six. Some shows with seventh, eighth and ninth shows are still great but not the same quality of that season six.
ReplyDeleteFor example, Charmed landed it's solid footing in fifth and sixth season. That was the darkest and funniest ever for me. After that, great seasons. Not perfect. Fifth season was perfect for me.
Same can be said for One Tree Hill: The fifth season reinvigorated the show's premise by turning the characters a few years older. And quality wise, the fifth and sixth season was so good for me.
Same can be said for Grey's Anatomy.
Procedurals can easily go on for plenty of seasons (even if they are all with 20+ episodes). I'd say heavily serialized shows (with 10-13 episodes per season) could go on for as long as five, depending on the premise. If a show is serialized, but mixed with a bit of filler/slight procedural (so 20+ episodes), I'd also say around five.
ReplyDeleteMostly it depends on the premise though and the showrunner's/writer's ability to manage to keep the story fresh. Some stories are only meant to run for 1-2 seasons at most.
A lot of factors come into play for this one, Bones lost its appeal for me after the 3rd year, got tired of the "clueless about life" from her and it got old quickly, where Castle just keeps getting better and better. The writers and showrunners are more important than the actors a lot of the time, they can take a show away from what fans loved and kill a good show fast.
ReplyDeleteLose originality or popularity? Most shows are never original to begin with. Originality: most never, those that are original 1 to 2 years. Popularity: depends entirely on the show and the audience they have. Some of the least original shows have the longest running popularity because they're comfortable and unchallenging, except people still like to call them original just because they're fans and no one wants to admit they like something hackneyed.
ReplyDeleteI voted for 5. The 2 shows that came to mind are Supernatural and Bones. I think both shows have gone downhill since their season 5 finales.
ReplyDeleteSupernatural just took a breath of fresh air their second half of season 8. It took Jeremy Carver some time to clean up the mess, but after last night and the last few episodes, I can see it going past 10 seasons.
ReplyDeleteI still think comedy shows like Family Guy can go on forever, as long as they keep pulling new jokes and such.
ReplyDeleteEveryone has said it and I agree. It depends on the cast, showrunner, the premise, the ratings (and the writers as well?). It's the writers that keeps each episode and each season fresh, and if the cast really enjoy the work then a show can go on for a long time. But if I really had to choose I would say between 8-10 seasons at least for a standard show with decent/good ratings.
ReplyDeleteIf the ratings are excellent (NCIS for example which is renewed for Season 11) might be the exemption and can go on for a few more seasons.
The thing that concerns me the most is that some of my favourite shows (e.g. on CBS) have been on air for a number of seasons and at some point in the future, TPTB will have to end those shows at the same time to add new pilots to their channel.
Cable shows are different though. They can run 7-8 seasons without getting stale although I thought the last season of True Blood sucked.
ReplyDeleteReally the biggest mess this season of why Sam did not look for Dean has not been cleaned up. There have always been a few eps in a season that I did not like, but that Sam flaw is the biggest one of the whole series, for me.
ReplyDeleteIMO it really depends on the show concept. Some concepts can be stretched for seasons and made fresh, while some run out quick. I'd have to say the Average is 3. though IMO. first season... grab your audience in Second season expand some more on your ideas add some twists. Season 3 (is the test) will it be fresh/new? Or will it be a somewhat repeat of what's already been done.
ReplyDeleteI thought season 2 sucked, it was all orgy all the time..liked s3 though..have not seen any more of it.
ReplyDeleteIt depends on the writing staff and the paradigm of the show. With shows like Prison Break, IMHO, a short run will be more satisfying for the viewers. Tell the story and done instead of trying to stretch it out to multiple seasons for no reason other than trying to make money. (American Horror Story did this the smart way.) Some shows tell the type of stories that can sustain over several season but the writing needs to remain fresh. Miami Vice had, just about written itself out...they brought in new writers and had successful final season because the new staff told fresh and exciting stories.
ReplyDeleteDepends on the show. Some grow stale in their second season; while others keep things fresh.
ReplyDeleteI find that sitcoms tend to get stale faster, because they force themselves to work in everyone's schtick into every episode, leaving little time to tell a story.
ReplyDeleteAll depends on the type of show and how creative the writers are. Some shows just shouldn't go on for a long time, not with the type of storyline it has. Others can go on for 10 years with a good writing team, and still be as good and maybe even better than it was at its start.
ReplyDeleteI will say a procedural has a far shorter time of remaining fresh than a serialized show!
ReplyDeleteI have yet to watch a procedural that did not start to feel stale by the end of Season 3. Some overcome that aspect by maintaining a quality f excellence in another part of the show like acting, VFX, writing etc... They can last 5 or 6 without becoming too repetitive for me to watch any longer.
The fact is, to put it simply, most procedurals feel like one another to begin with and after a short time all the plots seem to be somewhat familiar when compared to other procedurals of the same genre.
As everyone says it depends on the show and the people running it and most especially what the premise allows. Take Lost for instance, not a show that could have gone longer than it did but I thought while it could have been shorter and sweeter the journey was still enjoyable. CSI can run for 10 more years but if they bring in new minds and do new things technically the quality could go up or down year to year or be original or totally stale... not that I'm a CSI fan.
ReplyDeleteSeason 2 was my least favorite until last year which combined with Season 4 made me stop watching True Blood.
ReplyDeleteI am a firm believer that the optimum runtime for ANY TV show is between 5 and 7 seasons (depending on the story and the overall writing). As a compromise I voted for the average: 6
ReplyDeleteAnything more than that, and things will get tiring and repetitive, no matter how good the showrunner or the actors are.
Depends of the showrunner and how the story develops. Maybe, just MAYBE, many shows go downhill about its fifth season.
ReplyDeleteI think a lot of shows recently have premises that are one season only, Revenge, The Following, Once Upon a time.... they are going to get stale quickly. looking at the list of shows to come a lot look the same.
ReplyDeleteothers have lots of potential to run longer and keep original. however, it is based on the show runner as well and there willingness to change. shows get stale quick when they won't kill off/change cast, Heroes as a clear example
Depends on the show. Some can get stale in 10 episodes. Some are still exciting after 10 years.
ReplyDeleteI don't I gave up on family guy years ago I lost interest. The show has become unfunny and over the top toilet humor IMO
ReplyDeleteExcept ratongs have nothing to do with quality. You could have a really great quality show with bad ratings. There are many variables in ratings Premise, cast/crew, writers, network, time slot, lead in, competition, day, buzz and quality bit quality isn't a huge factor over ratings then the other variables I listed. However if quality goes doen then ratings usually do with it but again that has to do with the writers.
ReplyDeleteOkay...*sheepish look* Yeah, I'm from Australia so I probably sounded dumb. Sorry *shrugs shoulders* But thanks for your input. However, what I said about some of the veteran shows, (using the term veteran with respect) and how long can they stay on air until pilots come on to replace them. That was my main concern and the reason why I made a comment. I would also like to hear your answer/thoughts to this poll. How long can a show stay on air? I chose 8-10 seasons.
ReplyDeleteCommunity- i cant believe whats gotten into this season
ReplyDeleteDepends on the show, Grey's is still excellent.
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