Man. Tough call. That was such a great episode, almost every scene had something to recommend it. I opted for the Root/Finch discussion about the maching but could just as easily have gone for the final scene. Heck, even the opening credits (or lack of said) were awesome.
I loved the scene when Root and Finch talked about the machine dumping its memory and how the office was an external hard drive. The Memory/Personality juxtaposition really worked for me.
My favorite scene was Root and Harold discussing Ernest Thornhill's memories as she further humanizes Ernest and points out that Harold has been "killing" Ernest every night at midnight and how this is what has crippled it...This is one of BEST performances from Amy Acker I have seen. As crazy as Root is, I could feel her love for the Machine in these scenes. There was something incredibly powerful in how she delivered her lines.
Although the scene was powerful, it left me a bit unsure. As to what I understood, the machine erases all its "memories" every night. Though the source code is protected. So all the code that is printed out and rewritten in that office, is that the main code of the machine? Though it can't be, because Finch said that the code that was printed out was memories. So it doesn't make any sense for me to type THAT code back in again? Or am I missing something?
I think we're to infer that the data being printed off is all the memory that is purged when the machine reboots, so each day it prints out its meories, and aech day all its lost memories printed uot previously are re-entered from the printoffs by the folk typing the code back in. It would seem a lot less time-consuming (not to mention error-prone) simply to download the memories to an external hard drive and then upload them again after the reboot, but maybe the nature of the erase code is such that such electronic storage would be impossible.
Thank you so much, it's all much clearer now! Yeah my thoughts were identical to yours there regarding the hard drive vs paper. And I guess you summed it up pretty good there!
Well, the machine needed a fake company to buy all the pay phones anyway. Of course the eployees could have been doing something completely unproductive, but this way, they also helped the Machine to save memories, evolve and defend itself better.
That was perfect. I fell in love in this character again. She is so brilliant (she knew almost everything about the Machine much before meeting Finch again!), but also so crazy. And it's very interesting kind of craziness. Her craziness is caused by positive emotions, in fact! Feeling sympthatetic to the Machine (which/who is being crippled every night etc) and so enthusiastic to set it free. She's more in love with the Machine than normal human beings. And maybe this is the only reason why we, human beings, call her crazy...
I just love the idea of thinking about artificial intelligence and/or "creating life" in terms of Root's endearment for "him" in conjunction to Finch's more skeptical role in holding "it" back. Really it's like having a set of parents who have very different ethics and concerns for their coming of age child! (It all really plays nice to the Titan-God themes too!)
Haha, I love parents comparision :D But according to the Titans theme, it makes more sense than I thought. :)
Greer considered the Government as the old gods and Decima/Kara as the new ones. But I don't think he foresaw that there are ALWAYS newer gods - sons have grandsons etc. In this case, the Machine would be this 'grandson', already born. Why? Because Root (and Finch also) is more aware about the Machine's power than Decima. She discovered the nature of 'Ernest Thornhill' much before Greer did. So, if someone is going to be killed by it's children, I think it's Decima. They don't even suspect what the Machine is really capable of. They just want to use it to gain power...
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Man. Tough call. That was such a great episode, almost every scene had something to recommend it. I opted for the Root/Finch discussion about the maching but could just as easily have gone for the final scene. Heck, even the opening credits (or lack of said) were awesome.
ReplyDeleteEvery scene was my favorite scene, next.
ReplyDeleteWas there a bad scene? I don't think so! They were all awesome!
ReplyDeleteEvery scene was perfection but finding out Thornhill was the Machine was too much to handle!
ReplyDeleteI did not except that The Machine would take a life on its own so immediately, this was such a good episode in so many ways.
ReplyDeleteI loved the scene when Root and Finch talked about the machine dumping its memory and how the office was an external hard drive. The Memory/Personality juxtaposition really worked for me.
ReplyDeleteI picked other:
ReplyDeleteMy favorite scene was Root and Harold discussing Ernest Thornhill's memories as she further humanizes Ernest and points out that Harold has been "killing" Ernest every night at midnight and how this is what has crippled it...This is one of BEST performances from Amy Acker I have seen. As crazy as Root is, I could feel her love for the Machine in these scenes. There was something incredibly powerful in how she delivered her lines.
LOL! It was really hard to pick! It was good all the way through.
ReplyDeleteThat scene was my choice. It actually gave me chills.
ReplyDeletetrue that...the perfect episode...
ReplyDeleteAlthough the scene was powerful, it left me a bit unsure. As to what I understood, the machine erases all its "memories" every night. Though the source code is protected. So all the code that is printed out and rewritten in that office, is that the main code of the machine? Though it can't be, because Finch said that the code that was printed out was memories. So it doesn't make any sense for me to type THAT code back in again? Or am I missing something?
ReplyDeleteI think we're to infer that the data being printed off is all the memory that is purged when the machine reboots, so each day it prints out its meories, and aech day all its lost memories printed uot previously are re-entered from the printoffs by the folk typing the code back in. It would seem a lot less time-consuming (not to mention error-prone) simply to download the memories to an external hard drive and then upload them again after the reboot, but maybe the nature of the erase code is such that such electronic storage would be impossible.
ReplyDeleteFinch and Root discussion was excelent, but also the final minutes of the episode... they were incredible!
ReplyDeleteThank you so much, it's all much clearer now! Yeah my thoughts were identical to yours there regarding the hard drive vs paper. And I guess you summed it up pretty good there!
ReplyDeletei opted for john taking the call. now i'm on the edge of my seat for a week. killer.
ReplyDeleteWell, the machine needed a fake company to buy all the pay phones anyway. Of course the eployees could have been doing something completely unproductive, but this way, they also helped the Machine to save memories, evolve and defend itself better.
ReplyDeleteThat was perfect. I fell in love in this character again. She is so brilliant (she knew almost everything about the Machine much before meeting Finch again!), but also so crazy. And it's very interesting kind of craziness. Her craziness is caused by positive emotions, in fact! Feeling sympthatetic to the Machine (which/who is being crippled every night etc) and so enthusiastic to set it free. She's more in love with the Machine than normal human beings. And maybe this is the only reason why we, human beings, call her crazy...
ReplyDeleteGood point!
ReplyDeleteI just love the idea of thinking about artificial intelligence and/or "creating life" in terms of Root's endearment for "him" in conjunction to Finch's more skeptical role in holding "it" back. Really it's like having a set of parents who have very different ethics and concerns for their coming of age child! (It all really plays nice to the Titan-God themes too!)
ReplyDeleteHaha, I love parents comparision :D But according to the Titans theme, it makes more sense than I thought. :)
ReplyDeleteGreer considered the Government as the old gods and Decima/Kara as the
new ones. But I don't think he foresaw that there are ALWAYS newer gods - sons have grandsons etc. In this case, the Machine would be this 'grandson', already born. Why? Because Root (and Finch also) is more aware about the Machine's power than Decima. She discovered the nature of 'Ernest Thornhill' much before Greer did. So, if someone is going to be killed by it's children, I think it's Decima. They don't even suspect what the Machine is really capable of. They just want to use it to gain power...
... or do they?