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Apr 8, 2013

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  1. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 3:25 AM

    I am loving how the episodes are structured this year!
    More lengthy scenes with short cutaway scenes mixed in. I know some will miss certain arcs each week as they are left out of any given episode, but I prefer longer more meaningful scenes for a few arcs to short hasty scenes every arc personally.


    - Loved the introduction of Locke even if I miss Vargo Hoat.
    - The Queen of thorns was sublime!
    - Margaery is excelling at playing the Lannisters.
    - Loved the Brienne v Jaime fight scene. I think it capably expressed Jaime's cockiness turned to the realization that Brienne is stronger than him and has some skills.
    - Jojen and Meera were quite good, but they are my least favorite parts of the books overall. So there is that.
    - Loved the merry men of The Brotherhood without Banners! XD
    Not as gruff as in the books, but I think they captured everyone quite well.
    - Multiple Direwolf sightings. Huzzah!
    -Talisa seemed softer to me somehow and I actually enjoyed her in this episode. Much, much better than the politic exposuing field surgeon of last year! Ack she was terrible.


    Another stellar episode, there is a lot going on in the book at this point and so far D&D are handling it very well! This should be an amazing season!!

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  2. Jorge Castro SalinasApril 8, 2013 at 3:41 AM

    This episode seems to do justice to those characters who didn't appeared in the first episode. It was a well structured one and I loved the Brotherhood Without Banners, they've got a lot of personality. The Joffrey-Margaery scene was well played, but a lot of characters seemed to be missing on this one. The only characters I'm starting to hate are Talisa and Shae. They're annoying as hell.

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  3. actionjunkieApril 8, 2013 at 4:34 AM

    The scenes seemed shorter to me (and thus more numerous). Nevertheless, I kinda liked it and another great episode.

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  4. magnutudeApril 8, 2013 at 5:38 AM

    A little bit on the slower side, but I figured this is still more set-up/catch up that didn't fit in ep 1, but the sword fight on the bridge was awesome. Looking forward to next week's ep

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  5. katherine_fanApril 8, 2013 at 5:46 AM

    I voted for O.K. .
    ''You lost the war when you married her''->Best quote of the ep,Catelyn 's confession about Jon made me cry,I was glad to see The Hound again and the swordfight was great,but all the stuff in between did not do it for me...

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  6. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 6:46 AM

    This week did have a few more scenes depending on how you define a scene I guess,,,

    Last week had a number of scenes that led into more scenes in the same location. For example, 5a) Davos on the island, then 5b) Davos talking to Saan on his ship or 8a) Sansa on the docks with Shae, then 8b) Littlefinger and Sansa chat followed by 8c) Shae and Ros chatting.

    In previous years those scenes may have been split up with scenes and regions in between them, but this year they have put smaller scenes in the same region together instead of splitting them up. Like tonight we had 2a) Robb & Talisa's moment interrupted by Bolton bringing news, then they went directly to 2b) Robb telling Catelyn the news. or later, 7a) Robb and Karstark discussing Talisa cutting away into 7b) Talisa and Catelyn discussing Catelyn's prayer wheel and Jon Snow.

    Last week had more instances of that occurring which did create a better flow. This week we had that in the beginning of the episode, but no instances in the second half of the episode.

    I did not compare to last year's but I recall having more scenes and more shorter scenes than either episode this season.

    Here are the scenes in the first 2 episodes of the season:

    Episode 3x01
    1 - Sam & the wight / Sam & the NW
    2 - Jon & Ygritte enter camp / Jon meets Mance
    3 - Bronn and the whore
    4a - Tyrion sees his sister
    4b - Bronn confronts Kingsgaurd
    4c - Tyrion, Bronn and Podd take a stroll
    5a - Davos on the island
    5b - Davos and Salaadhor Saan
    6a - Robb & Bolton lead the march to Harrenhal
    6b - Entering Harrenhal / Bolton & Karstark
    6c - Catelyn & Robb / Robb & Talisa meet Qyburn
    7 - Tywin & Tyrion discuss Casterly Rock -
    8a - Sansa & Shae on the docks
    8b - Sansa & Littlefinger
    8c - Shae & Ros
    9 - Dany and Jorah approaching Astapor
    10 - Davos & Stannis with Melisandre at Dragonstone
    11a - Joffrey in the streets
    11b - Margaery with the orphans
    12 - Dinner party with Tyrell siblings, Cersei & Joffrey
    13a - Dany enters Astapor/ meets Kraznys and Unsullied
    13b - Dany on the docks meets the manticore and Selmy

    Episode 3x02
    1 - Bran & company
    2a - Robb & Talisa / Bolton brings news
    2b - Robb & Catelyn discuss the news
    3 - Theon being tortured
    4 - Brienne & Jaime travel / Jaime relieves himself
    5 - Joffrey & Cersei discuss Margaery
    6a - Sansa & Shae
    6b - Sansa & Loras
    6c - Sansa & QOT
    7a - Robb & Lord Karstark
    7b - Catelyn & Talisa
    8 - Jon and Mance encounter Orell
    9 - Sam and NW brothers
    10 - Bran meets the Reeds
    11 - Arya & company meet the BWoB
    12 - Tyrion & Shae
    13 - Joffrey & Margaery
    14 - Theon tortured / Theon meets Ramsay
    15 - Jojen and Reeds on the road
    16 - Arya with BWoB encounters the Hound
    17 - Brienne v Jaime sword fight / Locke arrives

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  7. StephenApril 8, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Vargo Hoat will be more in the next two episodes. You will hate that guy. Everybody will hate him.

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  8. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    I loved this episode. I have been waiting for so many months for the Brienne/Jaime scenes and they did not disapoint. Loved their fighting scene and the dialog before that.

    I quite liked Brans scenes. The wolves presence are awesome and I liked the Reed siblings introduction. I am excited for their journey.

    The scene with Catelyn Stark talking about Jon Snow was very moving. In the series you can quickly forget that everybody is connected, so I love when they talk about people who are not present.

    I don´t really know what to think of Theons scenes yet. I knew it would be different than the book, but I just don´t know how they are gonna go about it.


    Great to see the hound.

    I can´t believe that I´m mentioning The Queen of Thorns last. I just LOVE the Tyrells. The Queen was fantastic and Margaery toying with Joffrey was a brilliant scene. Margaery was great in the books (as was the Queen of Thorns), but I like her even better on the show. They did an fantastic job presenting the Tyrells.

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  9. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    My theory of what they will do with Theon's arc .....

    They will have the unknown "boy" try to help Theon, even helping him to escape. And then Theon will be hunted down by riders on horse back wearing hoods (like we saw in the trailers). Once he is captured, the hood will be removed to reveal "Boy" is underneath. His assumed rescuer is actually his warden. Guessing then "Boy" will introduce himself by name to Theon as well.

    It was all a giant mind game to break Theon down in the cruelest way possible. Giving him false hope only to remove it and show he never had a chance.

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  10. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Yes you might be right. That would make sence. His story will be different from the story in the books, and it will be interesting to see how it is done. I have complete faith that they will do a good job.

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  11. start_wearing_purpleApril 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    My only problem with the Bran scenes are the same problem with all kids of that age and elapsed time. In other words, between the beginning of the story and the current moment in the story how much time has actually passed? Does a year sound reasonable? Meanwhile the actor who's playing Bran has aged 2+ years from the time the first episode was shot and the time this show was shot. So Bran looked a lot more mature than he did the last time we saw him last. I know it's something that I should ignore because it's something that can't be controlled... but still.



    Also, I completely agree. Love the Tyrells.

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  12. Marc HartkampApril 8, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    A lot better than last week's, imo. Queen of thorns, jojen reed and thoros were all great. Even if it's different from the books, I still don't care about Theon...

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  13. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Ha! XD
    You and I are in the same minority I think. The Greyjoys are my least favorite family in ASoIaF and Theon is my least favorite Greyjoy!


    Even last season while I appreciated Alfie Allen's performance I still did not learn to like Theon much more and felt too much time was spent on his story compared to many more important stories that got less screen time.. He did have some great scenes though!


    Maybe Theon is TPWWP or AA and D&D are highlighting his story to make later events more meaningful...

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  14. Dominick GraceApril 8, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Theon doesn't appear at all in book three, IIRC, and I haven't read 4 and 5 yet, so I have no idea what to expect with him here. Are they folding in stuff from the later books? Or is this all new?

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  15. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    "That's what intelligent women do. What they're told" No, honey. Women with no brain do as they're told. Intelligent women know how to manipulate the men around them. And I think that's what Margaery is doing. Manipulating Joffrey. Why else would she ask him to join the hunt? Sansa was weak, and Margaery wants to prove that she's not. That she can be as cold and ruthless as he is. Which might fascinate him. But shouldn't he be afraid that he won't be able to control a woman like that?
    I like Margaerys grandmother. She's not stiff and boring like the other ladies. And I'm so glad Sansa told the truth.
    "Alright. Yes, I fucked her once. Twice." Is there a whore he hasn't fucked yet?
    They should just kill Jamie and it over with.

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  16. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    People like Theon???? I never liked him, but I have to say Alfie Allen did such a good job last year that he won me over.

    I never liked any of the Greyjoys, their story is the most boring in the books.

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  17. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Yes, I like the series version of Jojen Reed. A littel older, but seemed to fit the part.

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  18. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Kill Jaime???? But he is the best character.

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  19. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    I liked that the great and mighty Jamie finally found his match. On the other side, when I remember S1 when he fought Ned, it was no wonder Jamie never lost. Cause he had others to help him if his opponent was stronger/better. But Jamie is a pain in the ass and I want him dead. Sorry, if you like him. I don't. I hate him.
    I'm sorry Catelyn never had the hart to accept Jon. When she said, she prayed for him to live (after she prayed for him to die) I was touched. Is she a horrible person/mother if she prays for a child to die? I think partly, yes. I mean, I get that she was hurt and disappointed that Ned had another woman. But she can't blame the child for it. She has a right to be pissed, but she should have been pissed at Ned. True, Jon is a reminder of what Ned did, but he was still an innocent child.
    I too think that Margaery is playing Joffrey. She's strong and smart.

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  20. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Maybe they should make longer eps. I wouldn't mind.
    Margaery is only playing Joffrey. Don't forget that Cersei doesn't like her. Maybe she suspects that Margaery is capable of manipulating Joffrey. That's what she's afraid of. The powers Cersei has, she has only as long as she can manipulate and control Joffrey.
    Jamie was a prisoner for a while. Or, maybe he never was that good and strong. Remember S1, his fight with Ned. Ned was too good, so one of the soldiers attacked him. Fighting like that, no wonder Jamie never lost.

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  21. Dominick GraceApril 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Sansa's become rather more substantial as well....

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  22. Pauete PTApril 8, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    I think they are mostly following the books' developments chronologically and, since the book does feature flashbacks but the show does not, you could argue they are giving stories earlier than they appear in the books. Another example could be the Tyrell-Lannister rivalry, which you get to see more prominently through a character in book 4, but maybe not as much in book 3 (my opinion, at least). Overall, I think it works quite well!

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  23. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Count me in. I don't like the Greyjoys either. And especially Theon. What is his problem? Okay, he was a "prisoner". So? He was treated well. He was lucky. He could have been at the mercy of some psychos that would lock him in the dungeons and let him starve. That would rape and torture and humiliate him publicly for fun. The Starks always treated him well. Better than his own father.

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  24. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    This is what I love about GOT, everybody has a good and bad side (well, I´m not so sure about Joffrey). Catelyn, who is s good person, was not a good mother to Jon at all. I like that everything is not black and white, it´s complicated, like real life.

    About Jaime. Yes I love his character. I´m coloured by the book, in my oppinion he is the character with the best journey and I love watching it unfold on TV. I don´t know if you read the book, if you didn´t, I hope you will see what I mean before seasons end, or maybe season 5. :-)

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  25. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    works for me too. I think it is a good thing that they chose to do it this way.

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  26. Pauete PTApril 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    I'm with you on this: far better scene and overall episode structure this year! Especially after seeing episode 2, since it brought the rest of the gang and had some sort of logical and story-related continuity, as in we see Bran dreaming of his brothers, we cut to Robb who reads about the sack of Winterfell, then to Theon. Also with Sansa talking about her traitor brother, then the Karstark dialogue with his King, followed by Talissa and Cat talking about Jon, then we go over the Wall... anyways, it felt much more focused and cohesive, even though it had more characters and story-arcs in it, compared to episode 1. Loved it!

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  27. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Well, I still don't like him. He's arrogant and mean and has no honor.

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  28. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    believe me, I see all Jaime´s bad sides too. I can understand that he is hard to like. They call him the Kingslayer, like it is a bad thing, but they all wanted the king dead. Jaime killed him, and now they look at him like he did something wrong.

    So far we have seen all his bad sides, the good sides are yet to come.

    For some of the other characters it is the other way around.
    I understand what you mean about not liking a character. I find Robb really really boring. He does nothing for me and I just want his scenes to be over with as fast as possible.

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  29. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    The king he killed was the insane one, right? I have no problems with that, trust me. Just with his behavior now. He tried to kill Bran. A child. I know he just tried to protect his and Cerseis secret. But it's no excuse. Not to me.

    His good sides? Well, I can't wait to see. Hey, maybe he kills Joffrey too. If he's so good in killing insane kings, why stop? Oh, right. Cause this king is actually his son.

    I find Robb boring too. But he's a good and honorable man.

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  30. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    I haven't read the books either. All I know I know from the show. We know that the Starks took Theon in when he was a kid. From the scenes with the family we see, that they were getting along. And knowing the Starks we know that they have treated him well.

    Of course he has problems to understand his peoples ways. As you said it, Ned raised him differently than his father would have. "Pampered spoiled brat"? Well, only if you ask his father. With the Starks he had to earn everything. Even his kids had to learn how to fight and hunt. Ned gave them nothing they didn't deserve.

    I don't understand why he betrayed the Starks so easily. 2 or 3 days with his father and he turned on the people who were always good to him. And for what? A father that never appreciated him? A father that gave him away like an unwanted cat or dog? I mean isn't it what Theon said? That his father gave him away as a sign of surrender and defeat? Or something like that?
    "He accepts a warped role of what he believes he should be" To me it seems like he has no loyalty. He was loyal to the Starks. Then he goes home and wants to be loyal to his father. He disobeys him and attacks Winterfell on his own. I think, as soon as someone comes with a better offer, he will be loyal to him. But that's just my opinion.

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  31. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    yes, I know. I think it is a good thing that they changed it.

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  32. lsbloomApril 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    There are people who like Theon? As a character? Really?

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  33. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Robb is good and honorable, Jaime is sleeping with his sister and he is good at killing people. BUT I just find Jaime more interesting. Just like I find Walter White (Breaking Bad) and Boyd Crowder (Justified) interesting. They are really bad people, but they make the shows worth watching. Same goes for Jaime.

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  34. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Yes, they are very long. And new people get added to the story all the time. Some of them you just can´t help but wonder why.

    I love the books though. Maybe you will read them after season 3 has ended.

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  35. Marc HartkampApril 8, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Yeah, I think that the Greyjoys are all either stupid or crazy and most of them are both (certainly Theon is). I do agree that Alfie Allen is doing a good job, but it doesn't save the character

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  36. LouApril 8, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Jaime turns into one of the greatest characters.

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  37. LouApril 8, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Even better than last week's episode! I mean I am bias because of my neverending love for Jaime and Brienne who had all the best bits this week but still fantastic episode.

    + yay we saw the Reeds!

    + Arya!!!! Loved the arrow bit with Hot Pie

    + The Hound!!!!

    + Bran is all grown up! Rickon still gets no lines! Direwolf action.

    + The Queen of Thorns is challenging Tyrion for best lines, she is on fire.

    + Oh Theon Theon Theon Theon.

    + Margaery continues to be savvy and frankly amazing.



    + Did I mention Jaime/Brienne because I feel like I should mention them jshfhsf


    + Samwell my love be strong


    + Oh Cat, you broke my heart, some great work in that scene.

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  38. LouApril 8, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    If you read the books there is a reason why people like Theon or in my case can at least feel for the character.

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  39. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Ah, so that is why you find him so interesting? Well, true. He's more interesting than Robb.

    And I completely understand you. I'm into psychos. I love Dexter. He's a serial killer, but I love him. And Damon and Klaus (although I hate Klaus like no other, he's a great character) on Vampire diaries. And Emily on Revenge. She's everything but a saint, but briliant. I'm also a big fan of Gary Oldman, who mostly plays a villain.

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  40. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Yeah, I've heard. But when?!? Cause right now he's a pain in the ass.

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  41. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    ha, I remember discussing Klaus with you before. I love Klaus. Guess I have a thing for the bad guys. :-D

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  42. LouApril 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Maybe even as soon as next week's episode but definitely by the end of the season.

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  43. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    In the books we get to read his inner dialog so we get more than just his arrogant outwardly actions, we get his insecurities. The change has already started in the books as he has realized that Brienne is a worthy traveling companion with some serious sword skills.


    Even in a weakened state and chained at the wrists Jaime would have defeated most swordsmen on Westeros. He is just that good. In the books we are told numerous times he is a prodigy, the best of his generation with a sword, arguably the most dangerous man on Westeros.


    His realization that Brienne is stronger than he is right now (and possibly before he was a chained prisoner), has gained a tiny bit of his respect. Right now it may still be at that"she is a powerful freak" stage, but it will all evolve from this point forward.

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  44. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    A thing for bad guys? Yeah, me too. Especially when they have charm and charisma. Not all actors have it.

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  45. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    Having honor can be a very bad thing in this chaotic world...
    Honor gets you killed in this world! XD


    One needs to be able to adapt to live. Look at any character and if they are stuck in their ways, holding on to their past or stubbornly honroable, they will pay for it.

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  46. lsbloomApril 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Oh I read the books. I just figured Martin was crazy with his ridiculous attempts to redeem awful people.

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  47. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    I saw a list of the chapters from the two books listed in chronological order so a reader can read both books at once and get the full story of every character instead of getting only half the characters in one book and the other half in the next book....

    Many people hated the way the two books were split so reading it that way really can add to the enjoyment of the books for some people.. If you care to read it that way you can look for it online and I will try to find it and link you later today.

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  48. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    As I already posted, sometimes I like the books better, cause you mostly get more infos about the characters. What they think and feel, what drives them.

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  49. LouApril 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Hahah it works for me but then I am a sucker for redemption stories. How it ends up in the long run though is kind of interesting.

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  50. Dominick GraceApril 8, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Me, too. I have a hard time buying them as being the ages they are in the books. Robb especially.

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  51. Dominick GraceApril 8, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    He has honour--his own, unique and twisted honour, true, but there are basic principles by which he acts and that he doesn't violate. They're just not ones most folk are likely to accept as honourable. I'd say the same is true of the Hound. He's a great character, just not a terribly admirable one.

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  52. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    "We" are not part of this world though and I cannot apply my personal values or cultural values to this series. It is inapplicable.

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  53. DarqueModeApril 8, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Very true. Like he said to Cat, in some ways he is more honorable than Ned was.
    He has done his duty for his house at personal cost. There is honor in that.


    Agreed on the Hound too. I always took him as GRRM's attempt to show that shiny armor, white capes and perfect hair do not make one a knight of honor. In some ways the Hound is more honorable than most of the knights in Westeros.

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  54. kiaraAApril 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    I can just agree. Some people have their own twisted principles. Guess it's okay as long as they stick to them. I don't approve them, but I like people who stick to their principles. Well, as I said, I haven't read the books and don't know what's really going on in Jamies head.

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  55. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Excactly! That is how I see Jaime and the Hound aswell. They do have honour.

    Ned is portayed as a great honorable man, but he cheated on is wife. Robb married a girl he barely knew, while promissed to someone else. Cat couldn´t love a little boy bought into her home. Ect. They all do good and bad things, that is what is so awesome about this series.

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  56. the daneApril 8, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    love your enthusiasm for Brienne/Jaime.

    I think you are the only one who even mentioned Sam´s scene. :-)

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  57. LouApril 8, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    I adore Brienne and Jaime so much! Sam as well though I think the book did a better job and portraying his despair and why he just wanted to give up.

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  58. Paula IreriApril 8, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    WOW. Just, wow!!! It was an amazing episode! Love every minute of it! The scenes between Jaime and Brienne were excellent. I love that they put Theon's storyline in this season, he is just amazing.

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  59. Mia494April 9, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Well, you just cannot keep kids from growing, but I'm having a hard time getting used to the older Bran too.

    Actually, between the beginning of the story and now, there should be more or less two years. Maybe a year and a half. The problem is, they already made the kids older than in the books at the beginning and the actors older than the characters they play so altogether it means they're... well... pretty old. I mean the actress who plays Sansa is like 17. Her character is around 14, while at this point in the book she was barely 13. With Bran it's even worse. At this point in the book he was probably around 9. The actor is 14.

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  60. Mia494April 9, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    lol I love how the kid who plays Rickon basically just runs around here and there. Poor guy, he must be terribly bored on the set.

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  61. Mia494April 9, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Oh dear, I hate the Greyjoys big time. I'm always dreading their chapters in the books and they're no better in the series. I wish Dany's dragons could just fly in and burn the damned Iron Inslands down so we get be rid of this family forever.

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  62. kiaraAApril 9, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    He was loyal to the Starks. That is why they trusted him. Why he was send to his father for help. They trusted him and didn't believe he would turn on them.

    You're right. He believed that he, as his only living son would be his heir. That is one of the reasons he hated his sister. She had the respect and trust of their father and her men.

    Rewriting history? Good one. But true. That's exactly what he did. He forgot (or rather ignored) that his father gave him away. And he ignored that the Starks were always good to him. Seriously, I don't understand why he acted the way he did. I think, here we can go back to his sister. His father treated him (his only son) like an unwanted dog from the street, while his sister was his second in command.

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  63. kiaraAApril 9, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    "They may not make you like him any better" Why shouldn't they? I thought he was becoming a better character. "One of the greatest". I thought that means he would change for the better.

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  64. actionjunkieApril 9, 2013 at 4:03 AM

    Meera's weird hair, huh? Isn't there much weirder hair on the show, lol. Otherwise you are spot-on.

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  65. start_wearing_purpleApril 9, 2013 at 4:22 AM

    Well it's one thing with teenagers. I haven't read the books but I seem to recall the impression that Joffrey was supposed to be early to mid teens, correct? When he started actor Jack Gleeson was 19 but played a more immature teenager very well.

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  66. DarqueModeApril 9, 2013 at 4:23 AM

    I'm not one to start a "Hair-gate", but I completely agree about Meera Reed's hair! XD

    Thick lustrous loose curly hair is just about the very last style of hair one would want dwelling in swamps. It would act as a sort of spider's web catching all the insects and debris... NASTY!

    I say this as someone who has had shoulder length thick curly hair for a decade or more of their life (right now it's short) and knows what it would be like. My experiences in woods were bad enough, but I never dealt with a swamp and all of its insects. Never mind how the swamp's humidity would affect the hair! XD

    Personally I like the actresses hair, but it is all sorts of wrong for the frog-eater! It should be pulled back in a tight braid at the very least.

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  67. the daneApril 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    I´m with you. I did not miss Stannis, Danaerys or Davos one bit.

    I also see Catelyn as cold and hard. I didn´t like her much in the books and I´m not so fond of her in the show either, but I did like her scene talking about Jon in this epi. It showed a lot about her.

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  68. the daneApril 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    A better character does not mean that he becomes a new Robb or Ned. He does not join the Starks suddenly. He just changes in a way that makes him interesting. You might not think so, I dunno. As you can see from the postings, people who read the books really like Jaime, that does not mean that the people only watching the show will. you might not see the change as much as we do.

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  69. tsavonglah08April 9, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Like you, I also have no problems with leaving out some characters from episodes to flesh out fewer more. We certainly won't forget Daenerys, Davos etc.

    So if Locke only would exclaim: "Don't tell me what I can't do!" ;)

    Easy my favorite scene was Sansa meeting Olenna aka The Queen of Thorns. Superb acting by all three Ladies (+ the poor servant friggin bringing the Cheese NOW!)

    Since we haven't seen many lengthy 1-1 fights (besides the Jamie/Ned I remember), it was refreshing to see Jamie sparring with Brienne. If about a Year has passed since Jamie's capture, it must have felt good for him to finally hold a sword again. But no training and being not the fittest anymore, he stood little chance against Brienne.

    I don't remember much about the Reeds, but they seemed very good cast and we will see how they will develop the story further.

    My lowpoints on a generally strong episodes were the Shae/Tyrion scene (why the heck is she so suspicious with whom he was together before?? She definitely had more walk-in customers than Tyrion could in 7 lifetimes) and how they tried to make Catelyn more sympathetic so the audience would warm up to her,

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  70. DarqueModeApril 9, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Oh if he says that I will wet myself! XD

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  71. Dominick GraceApril 9, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Well, I guess that depends on what you're looking for in the characters you enjoy following. As of the end of book three (which is as far as I've got), Jaime's far form a "good" guy, but he's changed. I don't much care about whether a character is morally good or bad, only that he or she is interesting and well-crafted. Hannibal Lecter is a great character but a horrifying human being.

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  72. kiaraAApril 9, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Yeah, well, I just have to read the books then. Damn. Right now I'm busy with another series.

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  73. kiaraAApril 9, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Agree. On the interesting characters and Hannibal (really liked the movies – all of them).

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  74. laura3341April 9, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    At least she doesn't have to worry about her hair frizzing up!

    Shoulder length hair huh...nice!

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  75. DarqueModeApril 9, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Indeed
    Frizzies are a pain!


    From 18 to late 20's, but since then I got lazy and keep it shorter. So much less work!
    Now I want to grow it out again, but I find I don't have the will power to get past the awkward stages! XD

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  76. laura3341April 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    It is easier having it short,but i say to anyone and everyone,if you got it,grow it! The hell with these crew cuts the guys are getting,grow it for you will be bald soon enough,ha!

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  77. omabinApril 13, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    This one was amazing. I thought it was 100 times better than the premiere. But maybe it was just because it featured more heavily characters that I like more. I am loving Margaery. Amazing really!

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  78. Donna CApril 15, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    Joffrey, IIRC, was 12 when the books began. He had a birthday where he turned 13. I think he was aged up to 15 for the series. And Gleeson is probably 20 by now.

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  79. Donna CApril 15, 2013 at 2:27 AM

    Jaime is definitely the swordsman he's purported to be. The guards with him weren't needed at all.

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  80. Donna CApril 15, 2013 at 2:32 AM

    Good point! Like when Bronn fought the knight on Tyrion's behalf in the first season. "You didn't fight with honor." "Yeah. But he did." And he died.

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  81. Donna CApril 15, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    And no one in the ASOIAF world is wholly good or wholly evil - everyone lives in a grey area. Even Ned Stark. It's something GRRM always says when asked about the "heroes" of the story. It's like there are no heroes, there are people trying to be good and others who aren't. It's probably the most realistic story out there because the characters are more like real people. Like US.

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