"Second Star to the Right" - Emma, Mary Margaret and David go in search of Regina when they discover that she - along with some magic beans - have gone missing. But against Neal's protests, Emma still believes that Tamara had something to do with Regina's disappearance; and Mr. Gold contemplates telling Lacey the truth about his ability to conjure magic. Meanwhile, after Rumplestiltskin abandons his son and lets him travel alone through a portal, young Bae finds himself back in 19th century London and is taken in by the Darling family -- befriending their daughter Wendy -- on "Once Upon a Time," SUNDAY, MAY 5 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
"Once Upon a Time" stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O'Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are David Anders as Dr. Whale/Victor Frankenstein, Keegan Connor Tracy as Mother Superior/Blue Fairy, Michael Raymond-James as Neal Cassidy, Dylan Schmid as young Baelfire, Ethan Embry as Greg Mendell, Christopher Gauthier as Smee, Sonequa Martin-Green as Tamara, Freya Tingley as Wendy, Benjamin Cook as Michael, William Ainschough as John, Andrew Airlie as George and Karin Inghammar as Mary.
"Second Star to the Right" was written by Andrew Chambliss & Ian Goldberg and directed by Ralph Hemecker.
Source: ABC
"Once Upon a Time" stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O'Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are David Anders as Dr. Whale/Victor Frankenstein, Keegan Connor Tracy as Mother Superior/Blue Fairy, Michael Raymond-James as Neal Cassidy, Dylan Schmid as young Baelfire, Ethan Embry as Greg Mendell, Christopher Gauthier as Smee, Sonequa Martin-Green as Tamara, Freya Tingley as Wendy, Benjamin Cook as Michael, William Ainschough as John, Andrew Airlie as George and Karin Inghammar as Mary.
"Second Star to the Right" was written by Andrew Chambliss & Ian Goldberg and directed by Ralph Hemecker.
Source: ABC
I still can't shake the feeling they're all going to get stuck in Neverland in the finale and then season three.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait for this! Are we going to see Hook get taken down by little kids this time? Because I am here for that hilarity.
Totally supported theory ;D
ReplyDeleteWe're all going to Neverland!
ReplyDeletetotally supported theory ;D
ReplyDeleteThere was a fake SSTTR press release that arose online somewhere a few days ago. SO glad this is the real one! Excited to see Smee and Ruby and Whale (hopefully not pleading for his life) again! Also Peter Pan was a fave growing up, so going to Neverland is exciting.
ReplyDeleteSo it's true...Bae ISN'T Peter Pan. So what would that make him? Not John or Michael, because they're being played by other people. Interesting twist...
ReplyDeleteI think It was actually stated somewhere that in the season two finale they are going to neverland. In the may sweeps cards it is also said that once upon a time is going to visit another world.
ReplyDelete~"I still can't shake the feeling they're all going to get stuck in Neverland in the finale and then season three."~
ReplyDeleteI don't know why this idea is still considered speculation. I would say they've all but confirmed it.
I hope so. A new scenery and new storylines can only help the show at this point and hopefully some viewers will return next year to see that.
ReplyDeleteSo Bealfire ends up in our world, befriends Wendy, goes to Neverland, probably spends a considerable amount of time there, hence why he looks so young, comes back, meets Emma and goes on with his life. OK, I can buy that as an explanation. He'll also probably be a lost boy, which fits with his story (abandoned by his parents, in one way or another).
ReplyDeleteCongratulations, writers, this could actually be interesting.
On really? Darn.
ReplyDeleteI really, REALLY hope they don't get stuck in Wonderland. Because they've already retread the same plots multiple times, they don't need to do that AGAIN
ReplyDeleteWhere in the summary above that says that they are going to Wonderland? Am I missing something? I thought they were going to Neverland?
ReplyDeleteSorry, mistyped. I meant Neverland. Same difference. Foreign world, running away from critical issues, repeating the beginning of Season 2.
ReplyDeleteYa for Dr. Whale! (and all the Neverland stuff too!)
ReplyDeleteDisagree because Neverland could be something very different from other lands in terms of exploring youth/fantasy verses taking responsibility (and/or the values and insights of one's childhood/ "inner child" concepts) and because there could be something spiritually important about this reality. (There's character that appears in the finale that might change previous common beliefs that the certain characters have struggled with through out the series)
ReplyDeleteSure. But since they've not utilized any of the options available from the current worlds they're occupying, it's doubtful.
ReplyDeleteThis season surely highlighted many of those themes (lost boys, thieves, life extension post death, and transformations) already. It's more like a bridge that has sown a lot of seeds to set many stages Most likely "all" of the characters won't be in the same places either.
ReplyDeleteLook at this way. Season one was like a sealed can of warms in which we got to see in a controlled way, how that can of worms came to be and how we can "open it". Season two is the "explosion" of that can of worms. It's messy, overwhelming but necessary and logical in order to get to places beyond it, as it's spillage can now start to settle and have those pieces be all put into another space...
We won't be able to judge why they introduced some of the things they introduced this season without seeing where the story goes, as this is about seeing what it all takes to become better people.
I know you see it that way but I've only seen a very badly stitched together attempt to try to appeal to the masses without truly thinking anything through. I thought it was shallow and truly let down the characters they'd developed so well in Season 1 by stopping any characterization at all.
ReplyDeleteBut look at it's ratings. It doesn't appeal to the masses. It takes a someone that understands their writing style (Hugo's episodes where always more "manic" than the other episodes) to have the patients it takes to work through it. Which a lot of people don't have. And it's understandable.
ReplyDeleteI think season 3 will be a much better season, but I think it will be the case because of what season 2 has introduced and bridged us.
I guess if you think it's a writing 'style'. I think it's just bad writing. But then again, I thought Lost was horrifically overhyped and a total mess in terms of writing. Half decent for network television though.
ReplyDeleteAnd insulting people by saying they need patience to get through what they consider bad writing isn't really all that great either. There's "wait a few episodes, it takes until episode 5 to get good" and "wait forty four episodes, then it'll get good".
I'm not trying to insult you, but if people find it either bad, or not to their taste,(take your pick) then there is still the question of why that viewer would still be watching it and engage with viewers who do like it, have faith in it, or feel like they can understand why it's written this way? That could also be perceived as insulting to!
ReplyDeleteWe can agree to disagree. Obviously I loved lost and feel it doesn't have as many plot holes as one might think, since multiple timelines running on collective conscience and course correction can fill in the blanks on why things have to be the way they are (macro-cosmic physics).
Preach!
ReplyDeleteI do still like the show, I just find the writing to be absolutely horrible, actually counteracting a lot of what was written in Season 1 just because it happens to fit the plot at that given moment.
ReplyDeleteI can't answer for stormqueen, since I feel the same way like her over this I'll give you my perspective: sometimes when watching there is the notion of watching out of habit and hoping the potential a show has, to be fulfilled at some point.
ReplyDeleteThe truth is the show started out quite nicely, but I believe the writers are now too far up their own asses thinking they're writing this masterpiece epic story that they don't realise they've lost direction in their story telling and their characterisation.
The bones for a good show are still there, but they are far from being utilised. And any viewer, who has spent the time and and made the commitment with the show and has been tuning in every week for the last two years, hoping that THIS week that won't be the case, because last September they were promised a good show, has every right to express displeasure.
I disagree in that they think this is an epic masterpiece, as this is a show they have wanted to do ever since the time of Felicity. I think it is suppose to be "a fun" romp with an interesting new take on fairytales, but also still be a drama about people. IMO, unlike LOST, it's way more obvious that we are working towards a "happy ending". This show is more about being along for the ride (lets look death in face and say, "whatever, man!)
ReplyDeleteI don't think Once is perfect, but I also don't think it's as bad as some say it is, but I do think people have certain expectations and can't get on board with the campiness of series, which is what makes it a slightly differant.
I have no problem with mild complaints, hopes, and wishes, but I do have a problem when that is all a viewer does, because they're not genuine in their arguments, as much as wanting to ruin it for someone else.
Well I disagree that they don't think it's an epic masterpiece. Every interview I hear/read gives me exactly that impression. They might have had this idea for a very long time, but how they're executing it... well... I don't know if it is the same show they were envisioning way back when. It's the thing with TV after all: things are fluid. And I do get a sense after the first season it got all in their heads, and so it is normal that they might have veered off course.
ReplyDeleteI aslo disagree that they approach it as a campy romp and so everyone should get in on the "fun ridiculous dark fantasy".
It is actually one of the problems of the show. It doesn't know if it's serious or if it's campy. There are some actors that make the material work either way, but then there are others that seem genuinely confused an the writing doesn't help them. So I do have problem getting on board with the camp, because it is very unbalanced.
Yeah, I know:/
ReplyDeleteI agree it counteracts season one, because that's the idea of seeing a present get all wrapped up come undone...
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I miss Ruby/Red. I much prefer her over the terrible new characters lately.
ReplyDeleteNo, that's not what I mean at all. I mean that Jefferson and Regina's interaction in The Doctor directly counteracts what we were shown on screen in Apple Red as Blood because Jefferson DOES know who Daniel is. That kind of stuff.
ReplyDeleteI actually WISH we were seeing stuff become undone. I would have LOVED to see Emma struggle with her parents BEING her parents, struggle with her new life. Instead we got five minutes of it then Emma being relegated to plot device. I'd have LOVED to see people struggle with being both their cursed personality and their real personality. But we haven't.
I totally agree. Even with the missteps of Season 1, there was always something making it feel cohesive, the characters moving forward, developing as characters, whether for good or bad. This season we've seen no characterization at all.
ReplyDeleteHaving read all these articles and watched all these interviews, I feel like we're constantly being TOLD what they want to happen but it never materializes on screen. Poor Jen was basically trying to tell us at the beginning of the season how hard it would be for Emma, how we were going to see her struggle emotionally, yet we haven't seen that at all.
OH MAN. YES. My actual FAVOURITE GENRE is campy scifi/fantasy fun with underlying seriousness. Xena, Legend of the Seeker, Smallville, Doctor Who, Sanctuary, Teen Wolf, Stargate, etc.
ReplyDeleteAnd Once doesn't match those shows. They seem wholly unsure of whether they're trying to tell a straight out drama or a campy fun romp. They don't have their tongue in cheek enough to actually BE fun. There's far too much literal torture and rape for that. And let's be honest, just because something is "fun ridiculous dark fantasy" doesn't mean that continuity or characterization automatically needs to go by the wayside.
"I actually WISH we were seeing stuff become undone"
ReplyDeleteWe are in comparison to season 1. Season one introduced the idea that we have these people who have been presented with "counterparts" - two identities a before and after curse....For the most part those identites are kept apart by the curse, so their identites are "contained" just like FTL's quantum mechanics where put into another realities quantum mechanics but "sealed" in a bottle.
Season two takes that and rips it all open. The past is still getting exposed to us as it always has, but who they are is thrown into this explosive jumple, and in a lot of cases they become worse instead of better, but the point of still using mostly FTL fb's in relation to seasons 2 opened the bottle of mixed feelings and struggling indentities is both pointing out that 1. Not everything that relates to the characters that needed resolved came with them in the curese, so "unfinished business" showed it's head and 2. It still relates to who they are because "post curse" immediately due that unfinished business is still working itself out to become "truly" broken. -It's a process and processes are transitional. It's the how do we get from Ice to water when more ice keeps coming from somewhere else (that is what Cora, Hook, and Bae are, additional Ice that needs thawed...) So history is still repeating to get those things out of the way for more actual change, but it's going to be harder, because some have completely reverted back to to this "back lash"....but not all is LOST because Greg and Tamara's plot are another driving force giving us more of a reason for the characters to come together....as despite any of this, this is all a part of a "fate" orientated universes.
WE have seen them struggle, as they can't decide from one episode to the next where they want to live, who they want to be (snow = darkness), Who they want to be with more (Gold, Lacey, Bae), If they will do the same deplorable acts like they did, especially if their "buffer" devolves (Gold Belle-Lacey- Henry), what is really the right thing to do? Their indecisive and flip flopping, just as the plots are. The issue is they also haven't had "time" to think it over. So it's something we can see, even though they're not talking much about it...(it's also possible that they are in shock and denial)
Jefferson could have just lied, because he's a liar. (**Mad** hatter) and Jefferson may have only known/remembered "so Much" before the curse was broken. Because the show show presents a "variety" of different stages the characters could be in at any given time. Being true to "evolution".
Huh? That's not what I was referring to at all because we haven't seen any dual identities at all. We've seen them struggle as plot devices, not as genuine characters. All the things you're referencing? We've barely seen them touched on at all. In 20 episodes. For a show with such a long season that is really bad.
ReplyDeleteAnd no, he didn't lie. He asked an honest question and Regina gave him an honest answer, and you know, didn't look at him like "Hey, remember when you stood over his dead body?" Especially since it was made clear in the canon of the show that he remembered everything of their history within the curse. Being true to "inconsistent writing"
Obviously we disagree again. Their not struggling in the dramaic sense that they don't know who either identity is, but rather that KNOWING they have two identities, do those identities "converge", but it's clear that the choices they have to make are harder, because they are torn about those identites and what the second identity really meant to them, as because this wasn't just something that happened by accident, but rather something was directed at them for 2 very different reasons (Regina - to have control/take away snow's happiness-her family, Rumple - have a stepping stone to get to his son)
ReplyDeleteThe aftermath of curse is chaotic, and instead of giving them time reflect, their "forced" to make half-a** decisions.
I have to go and look at transcripts and watch the scenes you are referring to again to see what you mean, but I don't ever recall Jefferson saying "I remember "everything" about who I am". Just that we understood that he remembered most things.
Even Rumple Doesn't remember until hearing Emma's name, So again there is variation about "when" and possibly just how much anyone could know during certain periods of the curse, even Graham only remembered PART of who he was "certain memories" (via Emma in this case), until he gradually really remembered all of them...
Last season is contained and introverted. This season is lack of containment and extroverted (meaning las season there is a design of reflection introspection and this season there is not, there is only change and actions to act on) It's a perfect contrast, which leads me to believe it's intentional. Next season I would imagine (and hope) that the dust of this impact of breaking the curse will start to settle and that we will have slower stories with deeper reflections that then also start to relate to all these things they wanted to introduce this season.
So if Jefferson couldn't remember everything why was he talking about having two lives in his head? Why did he know how to work the hat? How did he know that Regina could do all those things? How did he know the very specific playing card relating to their time together was from Regina?
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, I think you're reaching really, really hard to make a chaotic, disjointed season make sense. We already know the show is full of plotholes and that the writers don't think things through before putting them on the screen.
How did he know Emma was the key?! His back story in terms of how or why he remember anything he did is still a mystery. I'm not saying that Jefferson did not remember anything, just that possibly he didn't remember everything, but the fact that he of all characters would be the third one to remember anything is still a mystery and so there is room speculate, especially considering we know that Gold didn't remember at first either and we don't know if in Gold's case if it was in instant flood or if it took some time...To me this isn't reaching, it's pointing out the fact that we don't know for sure, because it was never declared.
ReplyDeleteSo you're willing to write off the entire point of Jefferson's story? It's pretty well established in multiple episodes that he remembered his entire life the entire time. That was, in fact, declared.
ReplyDeleteI'm doing the opposite of writing it off, I'm keeping the door open, because his past isn't that well established. We have know idea how he met any of the characters. No idea where he got his information about Emma from, don't even know if he is originally from FTL, Don't know who's Grace's mother is, How he knew about Bell being locked up, and if what we have seen with Belle through out this season is what he hoped for when he set her free? IMO his character is still sketchy and unresolved. I hope S.S. has some time next season to appear, because he set up the beginnings of a lot of these things...and I have to think with Bea going to a certain time period in TLWOM pasts along with "Wonderland" spin off that some of these things will be more filled in.
ReplyDeleteThose things have nothing to do with whether he remembered the entire time or not. Which he already know he did.
ReplyDeleteIt does matter. If he doesn't say he remembers "everything", than there is no proof that he did, only proof that he remembered some things and what he did remember drove him to madness, which reflects the whole second season.
ReplyDeleteRight. So he just remembers how long they've been there, his life with his daughter and his past with Regina.
ReplyDeleteYep!
ReplyDeleteLike an old person who has alzheimer's, they remember things, but only certain things at certain times and sometimes even forget "when" they are. In a way Alzheimer's is similar to other mentally ill conditions , which is then synonymous for types "madness", which i what was also mad clear in "Hat Trick".
Sorry, I was being sarcastic. It's made INCREDIBLY clear in Hat Trick that Jefferson's 'madness' in Storybrooke is because he remembers everything about his previous life AS WELL as a cursed personality.
ReplyDeleteThey say it in the show, in the official promo material from ABC. It would also be completely opposite to what we've seen of characters on the show and the nature of the curse.
Often times on shows, they start out with a "general" premise, but part of the show is then exploring that premise, which then often times not as "cut and dry" as the original premise suggests, which is what makes it's subject matter so interesting, instead of becoming stale.
ReplyDeleteWe are still learning about what the nature of the curse is (and the nature of what being in the curse is verse it being broken is), as The Land Without Magic wasn't "completely" without it, as the creation of Storybrooke itself was magically quantum mechanical in nature, Regina was able to bring things with in which she could "transpire" into magic and use it, and the Dragon somehow existed "outside" of Storybrooke and we have advance sci-fi "magic" absorbing taser devices are all things that BUILD, reshape, and expand o what we think we know about the nature of anything! It keeps us on our toes, giving us new stories to tell, and not being over redundant by presenting a black in white cause and effect, but a beautifully more broad spectrum , which is also then thought provoking, as it challenges the viewers with lots and lots of ethical and quantum mechanical arguments.
Exactly. Plotholes.
ReplyDeleteOr true to evolution and true to our experiences as people. Evolution calls for variation and law of averages...Change is the constant.
ReplyDeleteThis is important because ONCE takes place in Fate orientated sets of universes, which means we can let discrepancies role off our shoulders, as there is a bigger quantum mechanical dynamic pushing these events, as Fate is another word for Destiny and destinay is a word about arriving at a certain destination, which is where ever the series ends, and ultimately we are just along for the ride.
When said about a show that pays as little attention to continuity as Once Upon a Time does, that just sounds ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteI def think there are some execution problems, but I also think there is meant to be little cohesion, because the characters are no longer either or of their counterparts (they're in a transitional phase) and because they don't have much time to think these things through, as the idea again being opposite to season one, is that it is that the consequences to breaking the curse are immediately bombastic or manic and therefor should not feel reflective or solid.
ReplyDeleteYou put A LOT more thought into making it make sense than the writers do.
ReplyDeleteAnd you still like it.
ReplyDeleteSure, I like it. But there are a lot of things about the show that bother me and it doesn't mean I have to force explanations to make it fit or sit and just accept it either. The racism and sexism are much, much higher than the gaping plotholes, which are to be expected in any television show, especially one like Once where making money is the paramount over story.
ReplyDelete"...where making money is the paramount over story."
ReplyDeleteTrue, but that is not the writers fault. They have to write 22 episode seasons with a Network breathing down their back constantly.
The Sexism is part of the Medieval aesthetic and Theological themes. It's the idea that YES these people DO NOT TREAT each other right...and we're trying to see if they can become better. Obviously in season two, there's a backlash and things that the quantum mechanics are making them deal with/rearranging,, because breaking the curse isn't an instant fix, especially when there's still some major excessive baggage out there...
Cable show writers are just so much luckier. They only have to write half as many per season, can write most of it ahead of time, know much sooner if they have an additional season, allowing them to plan better.
But this is another reason why I would cut these guys some slack, not to mention it's their first show they're running by themselves.
I'm not talking about FTL, where that argument doesn't hold a lot of water anyway, I'm talking about actual sexism within the fabric of the show that has very little to do with the story and everything to do with the writers.
ReplyDelete"the actors are going around saying the exact opposite, wouldn't it?
ReplyDeleteDepends on what they have exactly said. I haven't seen too many interviews. -But it's possible that they are saying that they think what the characters are going through makes sense, because they understand that they are in stage of tansitoon, better than the audience dose, because I agree that it's something that should have been more verbally adressed through the season. But another facet is that when these guys give interviews, (just like the writers do too), they have to be SUPPORTIVE and "act" for the network.
Then what about when it's Eddy and Adam? Who give interviews after every episode and seem to be directly disputing some of your theories?
ReplyDeleteI would have to hear what they're deputing and what specifically or generally they are talking about, but I learned during LOST to not take the interviews too seriously, because I think there's just too much for them remember for batem, so they say things to just keep things going and ripping themselves or the audience apart is bad for business. Again the Network has things they don't want them to get into.
ReplyDeleteWell not a surprise that again we disagree, since the idea was spiritual progression and life extension, while being in the dark about it.
ReplyDeleteIt does make sense. Putting Regina on a table only appears sexist (a comment I caught from you on another thread) because this is a classic sexist riff, but my point is that by making this comment about being sexist, you're equally being sexist, because you're saying "women" (especially sexually dressed women") should never be strapped down to a table, when I think in this case it actually is eye for an eye, because Regina is character who believes she should use her sex appeal as a weapon, so this specific demoralization IMO is acceptable in Greg's case, since Regina used her sex appeal to manipulate his father and try to kidnap them both and Regina still insists on sexualizong herself.
ReplyDeleteMy argument about feminism pushing for women's rights is sometimes taken to an extreme, where feminists now decide what a women should be, siting things as sexist, as if all women have to want to be treated the same way. I'm not saying that women shouldn't fight for things like equality in the work place or roles in the home, but when it comes to sexual identity, women should be freer to not have to behave "this way or that way" and in effect if a women wants to sexulize herself, like Regina does, that is not necessarily sexism, but a personal choice. The act of holding anyone down is demoralizing PERIOD--it shouldn't matter what the person's sex is or what they are wearing. That's our cultural problem in stereo-typing identities and labeling things we have seen in the past/third world countries as always being "sexist", when in some cases it is preference.
Regina being strapped to the table is a very, very small part of the sexism of the show. Other characters that suffer from it are notably Emma and Belle. Because sexism is intrinsic to the writing not just the characters themselves.
ReplyDeleteI'm saying it doesn't make sense because you're not understanding. That long explanation of sexism is, in itself, sexist because it hugely misunderstands feminism at its core.
"hat long explanation of sexism is, in itself, sexist because it hugely misunderstands feminism at its core.
ReplyDeleteOnly if you live in a time in place where you want to change roles.
The modern audience is at liberty to understand that these people do come from what the modern audience perceives as a sexist reality (much like our own past) and there for there should be leeway to realize that they are working to move away from that, but also that not all choices in the history of women were "forced" choices, as one might ask why it took this long for women to change their roles. There are times where it is a cultural acceptability and Once has given us diverse women as Snow and Emma rarely use their bodies seek an advantage, where Ruby & Regina often do and then we have Belle who has been both kinds of women. But we have also seen women fight greatly in battles, something that isn't so much part of our actual history. The fact that we have female characters who use all sorts of weapons and go on adventures is defiantly a plus.
Ah...no. I'm not even sure what you're talking about because I'm referring to the current world we live in being sexist and that translating into the screen. As in THIS CURRENT MOMENT, SHOW BUSINESS IS HUGELY SEXIST and that has nothing to do with FTL as a sexist society and everything to do with our current sexist society.
ReplyDeleteAlso that quote about women fighting greatly in battles in FTL and that not being so much a part of our actual history is patently untrue. That you think that having female characters who use weapons is somehow great and less sexist is...really messed up. That's one of the larger critiques about the nature of the show and their misguided attempt at feminism.
That's exactly how i feel too.
ReplyDeleteYes but most of the characters in the current are still from a sexist one. And in Greg's case his act of sexism really isn't,as it is Regina's choice to behave promiscuous.
ReplyDeleteIt's not misguided, as not all characters use their bodies the way Regina does, as she learned from her mother that this something to value, because again Regina and Cora lived in sexist world and neither has learned anything different, since in many cases that method has worked for her, which also then relies that certain men fall for it, but NOT GREG, as this is the point of exacting his revenge and this scene demoralizes Regina, as it really should (through Greg's eyes)