Update: 27th March With Today's CBS Renewals the tables have been updated.
Update: 12th Feb We've improved the accuracy of this table to only look at the previous 4 episodes so that shows with big premiere ratings and then large drops offs are more accurately reflected. This means that shows with recent low ratings will appear more accurately in the table.
Update: 20th Dec Now that DarkUFO has added the average Network Scores (see this post for details), we can now improve the accuracy of this chart even more.
- Shows that are below their networks 18-49 average get a lower weighting
- Shows that are above their networks 18-49 average get a height weighting
For example CBS shows on average have a higher average than FOX so a show on FOX with a 2.4 rating will get a slightly higher weighting than a show with a 2.4 on CBS. This should help make the table much more accurate.
Update: 7th Dec The Table below now uses the Average Total Viewers and Average 18-49 Ratings based on the Final Adjusted Ratings Numbers to improve accuracy.
Update: 18th Oct Just to inform everyone that I have tweaked the formulas now that we have more ratings data in order to make the ratings more accurate.
As a result I've tried to come up with my own formula/ratings to see how well a show is performing and after chatting with DarkUFO and he’s allowed me to make this a post on the site that I hope to keep updated fairly regularly, probably each Monday.
It will be interesting to see how closely this matches with the Official SpoilerTV Cancellation Chart and if it is more or less accurate.
I've tried to simplify the formula to come up with a “Score” for each broadcast show. The formula is basically calculated as follows
- The bulk of the “score” comes from the 18-49 Rating as this is where the bulk of the advertising money and hence profits for a show come from
- We also look at the total number of viewers and give shows with large numbers a better weighting
- Shows that are on Fridays get an increased weighting as these tend to have lower numbers
- Shows on the CW also get a weighting increase as it's a much smaller network than the big 4 (ABC/CBS/FOX/NBC)
- Shows which have 5 or more seasons get an increased weighting as they are likely to be in Syndication
Let’s look at some examples to show you what I mean.
Example 1
Show 1 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 10 Million viewers
Show 2 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 20 Million viewers
Show 2 will have a better “score” as it has more total viewers
Example 2
Show 1 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 10 Million viewers. It airs on Mondays
Show 2 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 10 Million viewers. It airs on Fridays
Show 2 will have a better “score” as it airs on Fridays
Example 3
Show 1 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 0.9 and has 3 Million viewers.
Show 2 on CW has a 18-49 rating of 0.9 and has 3 Million viewers.
Show 2 will have a better “score” as it airs on The CW
Example 4
Show 1 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 10 Million viewers. This is a new show
Show 2 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 10 Million viewers. Show is in it’s 5th Season
Show 2 will have a better “score” as it been running longer
So here is the full table so far. Obviously shows with a low score are not doing very well and shows with a large score are doing very well and are more likely to be renewed.
Very interesting !
ReplyDeleteGreat stuff, I'll keep an eye out and see how this matches the main one. As you said it will be interesting to see which method is more accurate.
ReplyDeleteThanks dark
ReplyDeleteHi @twitter-168707076:disqus I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand? What consideration do you mean?
ReplyDeleteWhat score do you see as the tipping point for shows to get canceled?
ReplyDeleteHello @mukulkandara:disqus I'm not 100% certain as this is my first time lol but looking at the numbers I would have to say any show with a score of 20 or less is in serious trouble and shows with scores between 20-40 are in some danger.
ReplyDeleteI don't really know, actually. It's just that it's weird to see Grimm at 24.91 & Parks & Rec. at 26.83, because Grimm do very well on fridays on NBC, that's why. ^^ But I'll keep an eye on it, it's very interesting. :)
ReplyDeleteOk, I understand. Yes, it does do well on Friday's.
ReplyDeleteAs we go on during the season I might have to adjust the weightings a little to improve accuracy
Nice one! After being years on this site I don't get the original method that good. With this, it explains so much better for me which show is doing good in ratings. I do know that 3 million viewers is good for The CW and not good for ABC but besides that nothing else.
ReplyDeleteThanks @AlternativeJ:disqus glad you like it. Yes we give the CW a special weighting :)
ReplyDeleteNice, I liked it!
ReplyDeleteSounds about right. Personally I think 50 would be on the bubble. Definitely would like to follow this along with the main one week to week. Already see that Go On is at a pretty good with 1.65 on the Cancellation prediction table and a low 48.89 here. I'm hoping that the Cancellation prediction table is right but the steady decline in ratings makes your one seem more accurate.
ReplyDeleteThank you
ReplyDeleteThe one thing that we do differently that may explain the difference is that we just look at the last episodes ratings. We don't look at previous ratings/history/averages etc
ReplyDeleteI see. It will make it interesting to observe each episode separately throughout the season.
ReplyDeleteYes!! this is actually perfect! thanks! :D
ReplyDeleteThis is great. First ratings thing I've ever come close to understanding. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteThank you.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind comment.
ReplyDeletewell actually 3 million viewers for ABC wouldnt be bad depending on how many of those viewers were in the 18-49 demo.
ReplyDeleteA 1.0 rating is the aproximate equivilent of 1.27? million viewers. An ABC show could have only 3 million viewers but still score a 2.0+ rating. On ABC that could well be enough to get a show a renewal.
Its not how many viewers a show has its how many of thos viewers are in the key demo-aged 18-49.
Also you cant compare ratings across networks when it comes to renewal, ratings are relative more importantly they are relative to the ratings of shows on the same network.
CW's bar is set very low
ReplyDeleteGood idea Sharon! Its going to be interesting seeing what happens as the weeks go by and comparing it to the main sites ratings!
ReplyDeleteThanks laura!
ReplyDeleteBrilliant. *glares at Modern Family's rating*
ReplyDeleteThis seems to make more sense to me in my own mind. I have difficulty understanding how a little watched show like Fringe for example got better press/results than say Bones. Now I still don't understand why the results only care about 18 to 49 yr. olds
ReplyDeleteBecause the 18-49 Demographic is where the Advertisers and hence the money is.
ReplyDeleteCorrect me if I'm wrong, but if there were 16 networks instead of 4, the viewership would be split into 16, rather that into 4, then the financial gain would be split in 16 rather then in 4, thus the networks would not be able to afford keeping good shows on air due to lack of funding and they would only be able to finance cheap reality shows. Expensive shows like Fringe would have an even lesser chance of staying on air. This is actually a matter of quantity over quality,imo.
ReplyDeleteMaybe. Or there'd be less episodes per season.
ReplyDeleteI know it's all relative to the other shows' scores, Is there a ratings score threshold, where the chances of renewal become most likely? I imagine it's around ~20. But you created it, so what do YOU think?
ReplyDeleteHello @twitter-251020315:disqus . Looking at the table and other ratings tables/cancellation charts I would say that shows over 50 would more than likely get renewed. Shows under 20 are in serious trouble
ReplyDeleteLove it, my geeky heart has the happies now. More, please.
ReplyDeletePart of the reason that shows like Bones',which by the way is one of the better shows, isn't getting rated better ,is because the magazines are giving other shows more publicity! Bones' gets forgotten because they aren,t talked about! AND THAT IS NOT FAIR!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd the quality of the programs would decrease exponentially, so the variety wouldn't matter. Even with 16 channels, what makes you think they would diversify their shows, when right now half the shows are procedurals, even though the networks have the opportunity to air a plethora of other genres. More channels would still provide the same watching habits, so procedurals would still be a majority, serialized shows would still have mainly poor ratings and the only change would be the quality of the program.
ReplyDeletein example 1 show 2 shouldnt have a better score cause it has more viewers the one with the higher demo should have a higher score cause viewers mean absoulutly nothing to networks they dont care about viewers they care about A18-49 only so if a show has higher viewers but a lower demo then another show on the same network the show with the higher demo should have a higher score cause its more likely to be renewed viewers dont mean anything but how many people atched it its the demo in A18-49 that matter or A18-34 for the CW cause thats what drives Advertising Revenue they dont make any $ off viewers only HBO and Showtime care about viewers
ReplyDeletebut this is defintly an interesting chart cause it lets us know the strength of a specific show of a specific network was wondering if you could include FX, USA, TNT, Showtime and HBO and ABC family Ratings as well
ReplyDeleteThe weighting is not much but we do need 1.
ReplyDeleteOk. Here is a question.
An executive has to cancel one of the following shows.
Show 1 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 10 Million viewers
Show 2 on ABC has a 18-49 rating of 2.1 and has 200 Million viewers
Which one would you cancel?
We can't really do other shows, like DarkUFO says in his posts, the other cable stations a) don't provide accurate and timing numbers and b) they base their decisions differently.
ReplyDeleteIf we applied the same formula nearly all cable shows would have a very low score but would still get renewed. eg. Dexter/Walking Dead are massive hits but they would get very low scores here
Arrow starts with a 115!
ReplyDeletenot if you base it off the network its on like The CW numbers on this chart base it off the network average for example Showtime has a 0.3 A18-49 average this year so as long as it has that rating its safe same with walking dead, true blood etc.
ReplyDeleteshow 2 but if example 2 had a 2.2 demo and example 1 had 2.1 demo i would cancel example 2
ReplyDeleteis there a score that makes it a toss up are guaranteed cancellation?
ReplyDeleteYes but they DO have the same rating. So shows with the same rating but have larger viewers get an increased rating as mentioned :)
ReplyDeleteI simply don't have the time currently to include all shows, sorry.
ReplyDeletestill dont understand how NCIS is always the most popular show.....and Nashville got a high rating? yikes! one of the worst i've seen.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate that CBS does not beat a dead horse. It would seem that when a show fails to perform they quickly put it out of our misery.
ReplyDeleteNCIS is a quality show.
ReplyDeleteHow did Emily Owens come in higher than Hart Of Dixie?
ReplyDeletehello @tvmonkey:disqus I had to make some fixes to our data/formulas. If you try refreshing now it should update a be a lot more accurate
ReplyDeleteHow can Castle be rated so Low? It is the number one for viewers in it's time slot! I think this ALTERNATE RATING SYTSTEM needs to be tweaked more!
ReplyDeleteHi @phnxgrl:disqus Thanks for the question.
ReplyDeleteThe chart shows how well a show is doing in terms of chances of getting renewed etc. The most important factor by far in this determination is that of the 18-49 Demographic which is used by the Networks and Advertisers to determine how much money to spend on advertisements during a show.
Unfortunately, Total viewers is actually very un-important compared to the 18-49 rating.
You are using outdated methodology! 18-49 is not that important anymore! 25-54 is! plus DVR is not even attempted in your system. No Your system is doomed to fail.
ReplyDeleteSame problem she is only using 18-49 placings as the deciding factor which is totally wrong since no person under 25 watches network tv anymore! They are busy with many other activities.
ReplyDeleteSame problem Her reliance on the 18-49 group is the problem! She should be making the number of viewers the main point!
ReplyDeleteNot according to the major networks it's not.
ReplyDeleteWe will see at the end of the season to see how accurate it is :)
Advertisers can not use the 18-49 anymore it just does not work. That system is breaking down. Their own market research is showing that commercials aimed at the that group get no responses! Only the 25-54 groups are still viable.
ReplyDeleteYou will find many more anomalies in this system as it keeps on relying on the 18-49 group to measure success.
ReplyDeleteWell that is where the money is still coming from. So until that changes the 18-49 demo will be the one we and other sites use.
ReplyDeleteYeah I foresee a total breakdown when the results are tabulated.
ReplyDeleteWe will see.
ReplyDeleteAnd remember this is just for FUN.
Don't take it too seriously.
and you like the rest of the TV industry will be looking at why it failed. Times are changing and if you truly wanted an Innovative way of predicting would ignore those old ideas!
ReplyDeleteFUN? really then why do it at all? since you will not take your methodology serious why should anyone else?
ReplyDeleteBecause I enjoy playing with numbers.
ReplyDeleteJust ignore this post if you don't like it. No need to be mean.
Then defend your methology! You have a chance to do some ground breaking work here but you chose to ignore it.
ReplyDeleteI already have. I have told you this already.
ReplyDeleteWe use the 18-49 demo as this is the demo that the NETWORKS and ADVERTISERS use. Until THEY change how THEY work then we will have to use the SAME the system.
No you don't you just chose to because you can not see the other possibilities!
ReplyDeleteYou don't understand. This is an ALTERNATIVE to DarkUFO's Cancellation Table.
ReplyDeleteIt's clearly stated in the article.
Maybe we should leave it here. We're not getting anywhere.
This is interesting. If you ever revamp this you may want to weight for network somehow. For example, Supernatural is below Parenthood, Nashville, Partners and H50, all of which are struggling on their respective networks. Supernatural is the #3 watched show on its network and has actually improved its ratings over last year, so in reality as long as the CW doesn't fold, Supernatural is in no danger of being cancelled. I have no idea how you could factor this into your system although maybe comparing ratings of a show to the average of ratings for the network it is on might account for these factors.
ReplyDeleteHi @percysowner:disqus We do already give the CW an extra rating as explained in the post. Depending on how well this goes this year we will look to tweak the various ratings.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I admit I just didn't follow your explanation of how you calculated these ratings. I'm sure it's my problem, but I just got confused so I simply looked at the numbers.
ReplyDeleteNo problem :)
ReplyDeleteThat did not help Harry's Law being cancelled by NBC...
ReplyDeleteWhat? How did Parks and Rec dropped from 41 to 19 in a week? :O
ReplyDeleteIt is the networks and advertisers that use 18-49 ratings (actually C3 ratings but those aren't published and these are close) and therefore make decisions on whether a show will be renewed or canceled based on them. Since this chart is to determine whether or not a show will be canceled, she has to use the same criteria as the networks are using. It may not be fair and you may not like it, but that's the reality right now. If Sharon used anything but 18-49 numbers, she wouldn't be predicting cancellation, she'd merely be sorting the viewer numbers that we are already given elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteUntil advertisers admit that people older than 49 are a valuable marketing group the only thing that will count in the decision to renew or cancel is the 18-49 group. You are railing at the wrong people. It's the advertisers that have to change their mind about who they will pay top dollar to engage with. TV is a business. If you get a lot of money for certain viewers and very little money for everyone else then you are always going to cater to what that high-paying group is and not care about anyone else.
ReplyDeleteYou are right. No matter how much people rail at the Nielsen system, it is what we have until the advertisers change their mind at how they are going to pay for ad spots on TV.
ReplyDeleteThe only way to truly do an accurate picture would be to make a separate sheet for every network since shows are not in competition with anyone but their own network's shows.
ReplyDeleteWhile this works really well in the beginning when there are few episodes, I think it will be harder to predict at the end if you are not taking previous episodes into consideration. Networks won't look at only the last episode aired to make their decisions.
ReplyDeleteI'm not really looking forward to product placement or directly paying for episodes or seasons however...
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I think we are going this way. Definitely there is more unavoidable product placement these days. Just look at all the features USA shows now highlight in their car of the month club. I also see pay as you go becoming a more normed way of viewing TV in the future. It starts with iTunes and Amazon but as people continue to fast forward through or cut out commercials it may be the way to keep your favorite shows on the air. My guess is that in the future you will be able to pay for batches of TV at once and then watch 10-12 episodes at a time instead of waiting weekly. Netflix is already doing this with original programming. Let's just hope we don't need a Kickstarter campaign for all TV shows in the future.
ReplyDeleteSigh...I'd rather let the tv networks get more carriage fees, lol
ReplyDeleteThe only way I would start liking that model would be if I got to be the casting agent at the same time. Now that would be AWESOME.
ReplyDeleteI think you are considering two different things: 1) who is watching tv and 2) which shows are likely to get renewed vs canceled. Using Nielsen data and demos for the former are admittedly incomplete. But for the latter they are all important. Advertisers aren't adapting in their willingness to pay, so until they do, networks can't change how they make money. How networks make money and therefore how they make business decisions is what predictors are trying to model, not actual viewership. Craig Engler from SyFy on Twitter (@SyFy) has addressed these questions a lot, and he's made a number interesting points--like apparently less than 50% of US households even have a DVR. If you are interested in these things, you might find his points offer an informed perspective from a network (albeit a small one) exec.
ReplyDeleteAs per the update at the top of the post we revised the calculations to make them more accurate. All shows scores were reduced but it's where they are relative to others on the same network is what is really important.
ReplyDeleteYes, I wanted to try a use the average 18-49 rating to make it a little more accurate, however I can't find these numbers online anywhere and I certainly don't have the time to track it myself for 80+ shows :(
ReplyDeleteI'll try to keep an eye out for something. Thanks for putting so much effort into this by the way.
ReplyDeleteI think we will have a Nikita funeral before Christmas.... :(
ReplyDeleteI really hate seeing Fringe wrapped in red and seeing that E next to it.So depressing... :(
ReplyDelete20 million viewers agree with you on a weekly basis, I dont watch it but I have an enormousness amount of respect for the show
ReplyDeleteMy cries .. Nikita is right at the top ;_;
ReplyDeleteNikita may not be able to complete its Season order....
ReplyDelete..I.... dont understand....(.C.).......Means..cancel..and..(.E)..renew...someone explain that
ReplyDeleteI think (E) means ending, not renew.
ReplyDelete@nellymendezcolon:disqus Yes, C = Cancelled, E=Ending , R=Renewed
ReplyDeleteExactly. And not to mention the millions of others that watch the show around the world.
ReplyDeleteNo that would be NBC with its new shows. Prime examples: The Event, Chase, and especially the Playboy Club, The Firm and the Cape. It's one of the biggest reasons why NBC's shows have been struggling in the ratings so much. People have realized that NBC only gives its new shows a few episodes to prove themselves before it cancels them, and since most NBC shows have been pretty bad lately, people simply just aren't bothering to watch them in the first place. I can't say I blame them. NBC needs to show some faith in its new shows and actually leave them on the air for a full 1st season (sadly, right now even half a season would almost be an improvement) so that people are more willing to sample them. With CBS, they can do whatever they want because right now, they have all the ratings and the money. They canceled (and eventually uncanceled and renewed) Unforgettable at the end of last season. That show was pulling in 10 million viewers a week, which is very decent. Sometimes CBS will cancel shows that get decent ratings simply because they can afford it. An example of this was Without a Trace a few years ago.
ReplyDeleteI know exactly what you mean there. I'm a Chuck fan and it never got any exposure that way.
ReplyDeleteI think what he might mean is that right now shows on NBC like Grimm can survive longer than shows on the other 3 networks because NBC is in such desperate need of all the ratings it can get. Currently, NBC will renew shows that would probably get canceled if they were on any of the other 3 networks because NBC can't afford to cancel them and the other networks can. This would be a temporary issue that should end once NBC has some shows that pull in more profits. For now and into the near future, you may want to score NBC shows a little bit like CW shows.
ReplyDeleteI can explain the general way it works to you. Before I say anything though, I want to point out that when I read those ratings breakdown portion of the tables and they say that Show A got an x/y and Show B got a c/d, etc., I've never had any idea what that means or how to interpret it because the y and d are not common denominators, which means you can't compare them. The only idea I do have about how those work is that they might be percents because those can work with different denominators. Now, for the general way it works, as far as 18-49 ratings go, anything in the 1s (1.x) is bad. Below 1 is very bad. 2.0-2.4 is ok and decent, but not great. 2.5-2.9 is considered good and safe. 3.0 and up is great. Now, as for the number of viewers, this is harder to be specific with because it's more broad. 10 million and up is considered pretty good. There's kind of a gray area with 7-9 million. If a show's number of viewers is in that range, the age of the viewers had better be in the 18-49 range, otherwise the 18-49 rating would be pretty low. Most hit shows pull in at least 10 million viewers per week. NCIS pulls in around 20 million per week, which is obviously excellent. The more viewers a show pulls in, the less of them need to be 18-49. I'm not saying that a show can get like 15 million viewers and only get like a 1.5 and survive. That would be a very close call for renewal because it means that most of the show's viewers are older than 49, and that's out of the primary target age range. The term usually used to refer to those kinds of shows is older skewing. That example is a bit extreme and probably wouldn't happen often. An example of an older skewing show is The Good Wife. Lastly, in the ratings breakdowns, they talk a whole lot about how much retention the next show to air on the network kept from the previous one. If Show A at 8pm gets a 3.0 with 14 million viewers and Show B at 9pm gets a 2.8 with 13 million viewers, that would be excellent retention. Many shows also get more viewers and higher ratings than the ones to air before them, and I don't know what the term is for that. I only know that it's good relative to what the first show's ratings were. Personally, I don't put a lot of weight on the whole retention thing. I go by the 18-49 rating and number of viewers and whether those are staying relatively stable or trending up or down and if so how rapidly. As far as what's considered stable, in general I would say a +/- .2 in the 18-49 is considered stable fluctuation. +/- .3 would be right on the fence. For the viewers, in general I would say a +/- 2 million. And +/- 3 million would be on the fence. Since the 18-49 is more important, it's looked at with more scrutiny and therefore isn't as flexible. The viewer number can safely fluctuate more because it's the less important of the two. And as far as the trends go, I mostly use the Cancellation Predictor Table for that, unless I can remember previous ratings, which is hard to do. I hope this helps. This is what I go by.
ReplyDeletephnxgrl, I respect your opinion and I do agree with it. Being a Chuck fan, I know how broken the 18-49 rating system is. It's very broken. The problem is, there is no other system currently in place that's better, so the networks have no choice but to use it. They are gradually starting to improve it, starting with counting DVR playback. But it's still a long way off from being fixed. As a result, your opinion is unfortunately basically a dream. It's not reality. The reality is that for now we have no choice but to gauge shows this way. Hopefully they will fix it sooner rather than later, but until then we're stuck.
ReplyDeleteYou're not taking in consideration how expensive each show is
ReplyDeleteHi @facebook-100000974396247:disqus . Yes I know. This is based purely on Ratings as the Title of the Articles suggests.
ReplyDeleteit seems like a bunch of you guys don't know how the tv business works. Nikita is right at the doorstep to syndication numbers with a 4th season tvbythenumbers and cancelbear all say season 4 is practically a given, So what are you guys talking about
ReplyDeleteWhy is that scorecard not take that into account i can't see the CW cancelling a show that is so close to the golden goose of tv where the real money lies.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/13/cw-why-do-the-secret-circle-fans-hate-the-beauty-the-beast-poll/157081/
ReplyDeleteNikita is not getting canceled its right at the doorstep to the golden goose of tv. Why do you guys not take syndication into account here?
@twitter-282119102:disqus I don't think you understand this table at all. This is based purely on Ratings only. It has nothing to do with outside factors including syndication. It's a table that shows Ratings. And Nikita's ratings are appalling, hence why it's the 2nd worst rated show on the table.
ReplyDelete@twitter-282119102:disqus Because this table has nothing do to with cancellation. It shows the current seasons ratings.
ReplyDeleteWhy does Person of Interest have a higher rating than Grey's Anatomy which consistently beats POI every week in the 18-49 demographic? Is it because of viewer numbers, since I know that POI has viewer numbers?
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised The Mentalist isn't doing better considering football has been giving it a near hour delay - so wouldn't it get an allowance for that?
ReplyDeleteNot really. That does not really matter. If the ratings are low, for whatever reason, the Ad Companies don't really care about the excuses. Remember it's them who pay for the shows through advertisments.
ReplyDeleteCombination of having around 4-5 million more actual viewers and the fact that it's a newer show.
ReplyDelete@twitter-282119102:disqus It's a ratings scorecard. What don't you understand?
ReplyDeleteYes, but talking in terms of something being in danger or not for cancellation, networks would (or should IMO) look at how shows performed when *not* involved in such delays or on better nights - that way they could either keep a show on in a bad spot (like a spot with such a long delay) because it's the best they could do, or they could move it back to a night where it did just fine. The Mentalist did very well on Tuesdays and Thursdays and performs fairly well in ratings when not delayed. The Big Bang Theory has performed well in three or four different timeslots on two different nights. Two and a Half Men, too (though I don't watch it) has done well on multiple weeknights. A weekend is too much of a wildcard for me when it comes to determining if something will stay or go.
ReplyDeleteSharon, I know sort of how you work out the score, but I was wondering was their any type of mathematical formula to work out the score because the score is very precise, did you just make up the numbers or did you work the score out somehow?
ReplyDeleteHi Sharon, great work! I was just wondering in order to work out the score, do you use some sort of mathematical formula as the score seems very precise (or did you just make up a random score number?) ?
ReplyDeleteHi @crimtv:disqus
ReplyDeleteHA no I didn't make up the numbers :)
Basically I take the important 18-49 rating and then multiply that by a weighting. The size of the weighting depends on a couple of things.
- If the show is on the CW it gets a larger weighting as the CW has a low overall average. This is so that the CW appear in a better relative position.
- If the show is on a Friday then it gets a little added increase as Fridays are the weakest nights.
- Also if a show gets a rating over > 1.8 that show gets a small increase. The 1.8 was worked out after looking at the ratings for the last few years.
Then once that score is calculated we add a % of the Total viewers to the score. This helps shows with the same 18-49 rating as others but with larger viewers appear a bit higher
Hope that makes sense.
yes this does make sense, thanks :) Sorry for deleting my original comment, didn't realise you replied and accidentaly double posted so deleted this one, but thanks for the quick reply!
ReplyDeletehe he no problem. I wondered what happened.
ReplyDeleteI try every few weeks to slightly tweak the weightings based on the overall averages for each network to try and improve the accuracy.
coolio :)
ReplyDeleteThere's no point in making up numbers.
ReplyDeleteThanks for a ratings method I can understand. Sad to see Supernatural so low-such a great show
ReplyDeleteit doesnt matter how low SPN is on the table in relation to all the shows only in relation to CW shows, so it being 3rd on the network amongst other factors means its about as safe as it gets for renewal.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your response. Very good news as I (and lots of fans from all over the world) find this show amazing. MERRY CHRISTMAS
ReplyDeleteThis! Which is why I quit watching both these channels
ReplyDeleteCSI was renewed
ReplyDeleteThanks, fixed
ReplyDeleteHow on earth did the Carrie Diaries get renewed?
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