Supernatural - Dabb and Loflin

Supernatural - Dabb and Loflin - Writer Poll

Mar 5, 2013

It's no secret that I think this is the worst writing duo of Supernatural. I find them to specialize in out of character brothers and mega anvil dropping. However they sure have been prolific, writing the 4th most often after Sera Gamble, Eric Kripke, and Ben Edlund. That earns them their own writer's poll. Two in fact since this year they decided to write separately after writing together for 4 seasons. You can only choose one in each poll, so sound off in the comments why you chose the ones you did. For me there is a hands-down winner in both, but neither will be the popular choice most likely. So without any further ado, Happy Hallelatus! Let the polls begin.

61 comments:

DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM
For me the best Dabb AND Loflin production was Weekend at Bobby's. Not too big a surprise because this was back when they could still write Bobby in character and it had very little brother interaction which made it hard, but not impossible for them it seems, to write the brothers out of character. I found this episode alternatively laugh out loud funny and charming. I loved getting a view of life from Bobby's perspective and all we gleaned about the man. My next choices would have been Family Matters and Plucky Pennywhistle's Magic Menagerie.

My favorite Dabb OR Loflin episode was Citizen fang. Again a secondary character played a bigger part and became the heart of the episode, which says a lot of how I feel about them writing the brothers. In fact, I wish these two had written Bitten. My next favorite would have been Hunteri Heroici.

Speaking of a Dabb and Loflin creation, Sam Interrupted was actually a decent story with some good lines. I still use "Crazy works" and I still get gifs saying, "Pudding!" All in all it's in the Dabb/Loflin top 5. My favorite quotes:

12. Dean: "Lock down. He went crazy, thank God." Martin: "What?" Dean: "I'm going crazy too. I'm seeing things. I'm hearing things. Man we both are. Crazy is the clue."

12. Dean: "I mean the things that me and Sam have done. The…the…the stuff that we've seen. We're going to end up going guano eventually. Probably end up like a couple of drooling nutbags. No offense." Martin: "None taken."

11. Dean: "Ooh. Maybe this place isn't so bad after all." Sam: "Dude, you cannot hit that." Dean: "Oh so torn."

10. Wraith: "Do you really think this is going to end well for you kiddo?" Dean: "No but I'm crazy. So what the hell."

9. Dean: "Exactly and that's exactly what you are going to do. You're going to take all that cr** and you're going to bury it. You're going to forget about it because that's how we keep going. That's how we don't end up like Martin. Are you with me? Come on man. Are you with me?" Sam: "I'm with you." Dean: "Good. Let's get the hell out of here."

8. Sam: "You still crazy?" Dean: "Not any more than usual."

7. Wendy: "I want him now. He's larger." Dean: "Hmm, you've had worse."

6. Dean: "Wow, it looks like Tom Cruise is right. Shrinks suck."

5. Whole opening scene when Sam talks about Apocalypse to the doctor

4. Dean: "You okay?" Sam: "No. No, I'm not okay. Eh, I…I…I am awesome." Dean: "They give you something?" Sam: "Oh yeah, they…they gave me everything. It…it's spectacu….lacular."

3. Dean: "Pudding!"

2. Sam: "Boop."

1. Dean: "Crazy works."
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Swap Meat is one of my least favorite episodes of them all. It combines bratty, self-absorbed, entitled kids with dumb Dean. Actually come to think of it, I am surprised Loflin didn't write this one since that's his favorite Dean.

10. Dean: "It was a random D-list ghost hunt. That's…that's awesome to you?" Gary: "I can't be in a good mood?" Dean: "Yeah I guess. It's…no actually, that's not really your style Sam."

9. Gary: "The boss?" PNora: "You know, your satanic majesty or whatever the kids are calling it these days." Gary: "The devil?" PNora: "Mmm." Gary: "Uh no. Okay um, it's okay. I don't really want to bother him."

8. Dean: "Oh you shake it up baby."

7. Sam: "Wait. Guys? Plural?" Manager: "Yeah uh one leather jacket, one Sasquatch. They left."

6. Gary: "Yeah I know. My bad." Dean: "My bad? Kid my bad ain't gonna cut it. See if you were of voting age, you'd be dead because we would kill you. So either you straighten up and fly right or we will kill you. Are we clear?" Gary: "Crystal." Dean: "Good."

5. Dean: "You want to get the lead out Andretti. Come on." (Gary hits the gear switch.) Dean: "Reverse. Reverse." (Gary smashes into the dumpster.) Dean: "It's in reverse." Gary: "I am really, really sorry." Dean: "Shut up."

4. Dean: "Adios b**." Gary: "It's adinos."

3. Gary: "Crystal, I would love to have the sex with you."

2. Possessed Nora: "Yep, tastes like moron."

1. Sam: "By the way, you know why Nora's into witchcraft?" Gary: "What do you mean?" Sam: "She doesn't like Satan you moron. She likes you."
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM
I tend to be less enthused about time travel because it comes with it all the paradoxes that leave questions hanging and me frustrated. However I really liked young Mary and young John, and more importantly how Dean and Sam interacted with them. Well minus the dumb Sam parts. Those need to go too. I thought there were some outstanding scenes in this one and for a rare time, the serious discussions made a big impact on me. They ended up being some of my favorite quotes.

12. Dean: "What, that their sons are back from the future to save them from an angel gone Terminator. I mean come on. Those movies haven't even come out yet."

11. Sam: "An angel." Mary: "What? There's no such thing." Dean: "I wish. But they're twice as strong as demons and bigger d**."

10. Dean: "Oh I take it all back. I love the devil. Now that's what I call peace of earth. Anna. I'm just uh working on a case." Anna: "This is what you dream about." Dean: "This is awkward. Why are you gate crashing my head?"

9. Sam: "They all say we'll say yes." Dean: "I know. It's getting annoying."

8. Sam: "He was trying. He died trying. Believe me, I used to be mad at him. I mean I used to…I used to hate the guy, but now I…I…I get it. He was just doing the best he could and he was…trying to keep it together in…in…in this impossible situation. See, my mom um she was amazing, beautiful and she was the love of his love and she got killed and I think he would have gone crazy if he didn't so something. Truth is um my dad died before I got to tell him that I understand…hhh…why he did what he did and I forgive him for what it did to us. I do and I just…I love him."

7. Dean: "I'm your son." Mary: "What?" Dean: "I'm your son. Sorry. I don't know how else to say it. We're from the year 2010. An angel zapped us back here, not the one that attacked you, friendlier." Mary: "You can't expect me to believe that." Dean: "Our names are Dean and Sam Winchester. We're named after your parents. When I would get sick, you would make me tomato rice soup because that's what your mom made you and instead of a lullaby, you would sing Hey Jude. That's your favorite Beatles song."

6. Dean: "Where have you been?" Anna: "Prison. Upstairs. All the torture, twice the self-righteousness."

5. John: "Look how long have you known about this uh hunting stuff?" Sam: "Uh pretty much forever. My dad raised me in it." John: "You're serious? Well who the hell does that to a kid?"

4. Dean: "Oh I get it. You've got a beef with your brother. Well get some therapy pal. Don't take it out on my planet."

3. Dean: "What do I look like? Doctor Angel Medicine Woman? He'll wake up. He's you know tough for a little nerdy dude with wings."

2. Dean: "Awesome. 6 degrees of heaven Bacon."

1. John: "Shut up all of you. Look not another word or so help me I will turn this car around." Dean: "Wow. Awkward family road trip." Sam: "No kidding."
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lostrocks4everMarch 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Actiually quite a few good choices in that first poll.
I love weekend at Bobby's, dark side of the moon, hammer if the gods (probably solely because it has Gabriel) and yellow fever always makes me laugh
But I had to go with plucky penniwhistle. It was just such a bright comedy and return to what I had missed in the show in what had so far been a dark and gloomy start to the season. And I really do love the comedy episodes just because they do them so well.
Second poll I went with hunteri heroici. Again, I like the comedy and I love those loony tunes cartoons. Although I do need to rewatch this season so far again so maybe after that my vote will change
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM
What I remember most about this episode is of course the opening scene. No episode disgusts me more than this one, although The Third Man comes close. I find most of the dialogue poor in it too so I had a hard time getting to 10 good quotes. Yeah I know what you are thinking - she is negative with all episodes. Not true, we just happen to be in a section of SPN I am not too fond of called season 5. I really like the next episode though.

10. Cupid: "Yeah the union of John and Mary Winchester. Very big deal upstairs, a top priority arrangement." Dean: A"re you saying that you fixed up our parents?"

9. Cas: "What I'm saying is a cupid has gone rogue and we have to stop him before he kills again." Sam: "Naturally." Dean: "Of course we do."

8. Dean: "So this is your big trick, huh? Making people cuckoo for cocoa puffs."

7. Dean: "You mean the little flying fat kid in diapers?" Cas: "They're not incontinent."

6. Sam: "So you're not into bars full of lonely women." Dean: "Nah, I guess not. What?" Sam: "It's when a dog doesn't eat. That's when you know something's really wrong." Dean: "Remarkably patronizing concern duly noted. Nothing's wrong. We gonna work or what?"

5. Dean: "Hey when I want to drink, I drink. When I want sex I go get it. Same goes for a sandwich or a fight." Cas: "So you're saying you're well-adjusted?" Dean: "God no. I'm just well fed."

4. Cas: "This is their handshake." Dean: "I don't like it." Cas: "No one likes it."

3. Dean: "What are you? The Hamburglar."

2. Sam: "You just punched a cupid." Dean: "I just punched a d**."

1. Sam: "Dean, it's Valentine's Day. Your favorite holiday remember. I mean, what do you always call it uh…unattached drifter Christmas."
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Elena WonderlandMarch 5, 2013 at 2:13 PM
"Dark side of the moon" and "Trial and Error" for me!!!
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Lilith HellfireMarch 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM
searches for the none of the above button, doesn't see it, settles for Weekend at Bobby's (good if you've only watched it less than 4 times and have the ability to gloss over things easily) but I've made it no secret that I've decided the lesser of the two evils is Dabb imho, went with Hunteri Heroici for the second poll.
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jensenfan1978March 5, 2013 at 2:50 PM
I went with Plucky Pennywhistle because it was the first time, in ages, we saw the old Dean. I loved his laugh at the end and the fact that Sam did too. He shut up, smiled softly, and watched and listened.
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jensenfan1978March 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM
I chose Trial and Error.
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KS WinchesterMarch 5, 2013 at 3:04 PM
My choice for the first poll is Weekend at Bobby's. I had a hard time choosing between Yellow Fever and Weekend at Bobby's. But finally settled down to Weekend at Bobby's. Dark Side of the Moon has my all time favorite Fire cracker scene, but rest of the episode didn't impress me.

My choice for second poll is "Trail and Error". Well, in this poll all the four are not my favorite options at all. I just chose the less worse. The biggest mistake in "Trail and Error" is that the Crossroad Deals, which once used to bear a lot of emotional weight on this show, became nothing but comedy scenes. That episode could have been better in a lot more ways, but it turned out to be boring.
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BoxManLockeMarch 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM
Worst duo is definitely Buckner and Ross-Leming ! Everything they write turns to crap.
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JustinC00March 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM
The hate Dabb & Loflin get is hilarious. There is one episode on that list that i'm meh about and it's S7-Wedding. And if you actually take out the whole kidnapping/love spell story it is actually a decent episode with the crossroads
demon ending the deals early.
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isleofskyeMarch 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM
I actually like most of these episodes. There are always bad moments is every episode, sometimes you just have to accept the bad with the good.
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The only ones I really dislike are "Yelow Fever" because I didn't like the ghost story and I didn't find Dean's fear particularly funny.

"Jump The Shark" but only for the introduction of Adam. I enjoyed the rest of the ep with the ghouls.

Part of "Time For A Wedding" but I loved the crossroads demon and the Crowley face off in that episode.
I also didn't like "What's Up Tiger Mommy," But then I don't like season eight at all.
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I think the Buckner-Ross-Lemming duo are far worse writers than these two.
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hlnkidMarch 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM
I love so many of those eps, it's hard to choose, but I have an odd affinity for 'Sam, Interrupted' from Season 5, so my vote when there. Yellow Fever would be second.
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ScottAMarch 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM
Dark Side of the Moon. Joshua, if you ask me, is the most powerful angel in heaven. NO ONE wants to jack with him.

Hell, he may even be god in disguise.
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C PMarch 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM
I'm so-so with these writers. Overall I loved or liked 9 or 10 out of the 16 episodes they wrote (the other 6 or 7 were either a bit on the boring side or weird for me, or in the case of Girl Next Door, brought about issues I'd rather not have been brought up).

If I get picky there are things I dislike about the characterization of Sam and Dean at some points in each episode, but overall the 8 or 9 I love/like are well done.

I chose Weekend At Bobby's as my favorite of theres.

I have loved Dabb's writing this season. Torn between the 2 episodes, so I voted Hunteri Heroici. Loflin's episodes were mixed. I liked Remember The Titans, the mythology of it was done well. Citizen Fang, while it kept me on edge was annoying will all the brother fighting and Sam going off with Martin.
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C PMarch 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM
I agree about the Buckner-Ross-Lemming duo.
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C PMarch 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM
Yeah Sam, Interrupted was pretty funny. Especially with the beginning scene with the doctor and Sam being high on the drugs. lol
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RjupiterMarch 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM
does explains why this series/season has been boring and stinky as dog shit.
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RjupiterMarch 5, 2013 at 8:18 PM
what "issues", having monsters as friends or betrayal?
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rehabberMarch 5, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Several I liked but went with Dark Side of the Moon. I loved the firecracker scene, and finding out that Sam was happiest away from family and at my age, would love for Heaven to be like they described. ;)

Others I liked Yellow Fever, Weekend at Bobby's(thought Jensen did an excellent job directing that one), Hammer of the Gods, Sam, Interrupted(the opening scene with Dean & Sam, classic), There Will Be Blood.

Remember the Titans (Loflin), that last scene with Dean praying to Cas, makes me vote for this one.
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM
I almost just put beginning brother scene but then thought that would be cheating,
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Plucky's was memorable to me because of the ending scene with the glitter and slinky. It was such a quintessential brother moment and to see the brothers laughing did my heart good. I'm hoping to get a similar moment this season.
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM
Ha! I thought it would be incredibly biased of me to put none of the above on this one when I didn't on the earlier three. I still like Weekend at Bobby's (skipping through all the brother scenes that take place in America of course). Bobby and Rufus are a winning combination and we got Sheriff Mills back.
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM
The laughing scene at the end made up for a lot of the middle. Plus we got those oh so classic monster names - dractopus, Seabiscuit the Impaler. Bwah!
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Funny because I think Citizen Fang was one of the best episodes of the season (not series of course) and the worst thing about Trial and Error for me was the hideous guest characters. By far. Some terrible acting in that one. Plus it kicked off the "only one brother can do the trials" thing which I think is a huge mistake on the part of the writers.
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM
I don't dislike B and R-L near as much as most. Sure they wrote some stinkers but mostly I just find them bland, more "meh" than anything. There worst one was Man's Best Friend with Benefits, which surpassing Route 666 in the blech column for me. However Heartache is one of the better ones of season 8 to me. At least the brothers got a win on their own and were not glorified wallpaper in that one. A Little Slice of Kevin was pretty well received in the fandom as well.
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:55 PM
I don't think Dabb and Loflin are capable of writing both brothers in character for a whole 42 minutes. That to me is the biggest sin of all. There's only 2 main characters on this show so how in the world can they consistently mess them up. It irks me like nothing else and so I tend to wish they'd just go away.
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DahneMarch 5, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Yellow Fever is one of my absolute least favorite episodes Quite frankly I enjoyed most of Season 7 Time for a Wedding although it is definitely a middle of the road episode and it has 2 of my least favorite recurring characters.
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 12:02 AM
Sam, Interrupted is one of those episodes that depending on my mood going into it, I either really like it or find it average. I love some of the lines and "Crazy works" is one of my favorite lines of the whole series. I know most people prefer Pudding but I thought Dean half whispering-half mouthing this line to a stunned Sam was priceless.
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM
Well if we have to have angels back on Supernatural I would sure rather it be Joshua. He seemed to know better what was going on and had less of an agenda. Of course if he were to come back that would change so perhaps its good that I retain good memories of at least one angel.
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 12:09 AM
For Citizen Fang being one of my favorite episodes this season so far, I have some real issues with it too. Brother fighting hit the high point of irksome in this episode. While I loved its theme of the importance of family in keeping you grounded and giving you something to live for, I kept wishing it was the Winchesters who were finding this and not Benny. Unlike you I cannot get over the issues with brother characterizations in Dabb and Loflin's work. Maybe if Yellow Fever had not been the first episode they wrote, it wouldn't have stuck in my craw so much in their other early works. As it is, I have not seen an episode with their name as writers on it that I haven't groaned before going into.
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM
This season is rapidly approaching season 4 in level of general suckiness for me. It's like the worst of the Gamble years with none of the many plusses. Screw with the brother bond and I'm always going to be unhappy.
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 12:13 AM
Wow, i think you are the first person I know who liked that Sam was happiest away from his family. That tends to be a sticking point for a lot of fans. For me it was more that the entire episode was depressing instead of a couple of scenes and because the amulet got trashed. I did however think the firecracker moment was awesome as well. There's something about that pure joy on young Sammy's face that gets me every single time.
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prpleightMarch 6, 2013 at 2:21 AM
Not surprisingly, I don't share Dahne's opinion of this writing duo. But then I don't tend to think interms of who wrote the ep...I tend to stay on the higher level of did I like or dislike a particular ep. I also seem to take a while to decided on if I'm liking or hating a season.

Anyway, I almost picked After School Special. I thought the root ghost story was really nice. The bully turned victim and Sam's guilt. Thought it worked nicely. My only problem was with the button on Dean's high school story.

I picked Yellow Fever. It was a monster of the week story I really really liked.

As for the solo eps....I pick Citizen Fang. I have really enjoyed the Benny stories.
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rehabberMarch 6, 2013 at 2:43 AM
Well let me explain, not so much that I LIKED Sam being happy away from family, but it explained a lot of what was going on with him. Hated the amulet is gone and am holding out hope that Sam picked it up.
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rehabberMarch 6, 2013 at 2:46 AM
That is funny, season 4 is my favorite season and if they explain why Sam did not look for Dean this season just might become my favorite. What I love about SPN, there is something for every one to love or find "suckiness" with. lol
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 2:46 AM
Ah that makes sense. I too hope beyond hope that the amulet will someday come back.
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 2:57 AM
Emoangst and brother rifts are not my friends so when we delve solely into that the show loses me. I blame the writers' strike for season 4 but in all honesty I think Kripke would have gone darker faster in the demon blood story line if he had been able to stick with his original goal of no angels on SPN. Either way it was going to be a lose-lose situation for me.

Just out of curiosity, were you unhappy with seasons 6 and 7? Besides Castiel's role this year I don't see the difference other people see with Jeremy Carver's SPN and Sera Gamble's. It seems like most of the problems people cited Sera for have been no better and sometimes worse with Jeremy. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why the fandom was almost pathologically angry at Sera and yet are giving Jeremy a free pass for the same things. Well except Bobby's death. That I understand fully well.
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 3:00 AM
Ha! Why ruin a trend? I'm surprised that we agreed on one poll here. It's hard for me to choose which one I dislike most of After School Special or Yellow Fever since they both have character scenes that make my eyes roll hard. But I do not think ALL Dabb and Loflin creations are terrible. In fact my lowered expectations of them tends to work in their favor when I come out of an episode thinking, "Well that wasn't as bad as I expected."
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rehabberMarch 6, 2013 at 3:19 AM
I liked season 6 and had 8 eps in my top 40, have not added any from this season yet. Not so much s7 only had 6. Season 4 had 9, s5 had 6, but Swan Song is my favorite ep of the series.....so far.
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Aundria PremoMarch 6, 2013 at 4:52 AM
I thought that episode was pretty darn funny!
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DahneMarch 6, 2013 at 7:26 AM
You are remarkably even with your seasons. That's pretty cool.
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Cherie GrantMarch 6, 2013 at 7:38 AM
christ most of you whinge over nothing and don't understand storytelling.
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Debbie CombsMarch 6, 2013 at 7:55 AM
I don't believe that Sam was "happiest" away from Family unless you believe Dean was happiest when his family was fighting or when he accidentally burns a field down. Sam died first and Dean had an entire memory before finding Sam. I believe there is clear evidence that Zachariah was manipulating the memories... at least after Dean's first. Plus, Sam died before Dean, but we popped into heaven all invested in Dean's memories. We just see Sam get groped by a 12 year old girl that he just met. I'm sure that was an important memory for Sam because it was his first "real" Thanksgiving, but happiest? I don't think so.
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prpleightMarch 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM
Yup. It always scares me when we agree on something Supernatural related. Happily, I haven't gotten to a point where I expect not to like an ep before I see the trailer (I expected to not like the Golem ep but wound up enjoying it.) and even then I'm never in a position where the ep has to prove it's good. I've hit that point with Vampire Dairies. Each ep has to coach my mind open to giving it a chance. Not sure that makes any sense.
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rehabberMarch 6, 2013 at 11:48 AM
We saw Sam's Thanksgiving, then when he ran away and had the dog(on Dean's watch), also when he left for college and those were ALL happy memories for Sam. He left Dad & Dean, but he did not think of it like that. Dean's memories were all about family, and yes Dean had Sammy when they burned the field down, was a happy memory. Sam said he did not get his crust cut off his PB&J sandwiches, so family did not mean the same thing to him.
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rehabberMarch 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM
That makes perfect sense, I am the same way. Trailers do not make me set to not like an ep, they have to be really bad for me to not choose Awesome in the poll. Do not like any with Ghostfacers and almost put awful for Bitten, but just could not bring myself to do it. LOL Went with Poor instead.

I don't even watch TVD trailers or previews any longer. Do watch the show, but they are losing me, way to many characters that I just don't care anything about..die, don't die, I don't care.
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RjupiterMarch 6, 2013 at 12:29 PM
well, it is not so much the brother bond i have issue with, though that is a problem but conflict can be interesting/good at times if resolved quickly, it is the general lazy and back peddling writing, lack of interesting story lines, aesthetic/atmosphere that are bland and characterizations that feel way off. and lets not even mention the incredibly dreadful "men of letters and G-d Trials" that i shall loosely term as an "arc". it feels like the show has run its course and is being steered by the Jr. tugboat captain at Disneyland.
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rehabberMarch 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM
I'm confused, if you find the show this bad..Why are you still watching it?? Life is to short to be bored, go watch a "reality" show.
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chris684March 6, 2013 at 1:02 PM
Voted for Dark Side on the first one, although others in this group that I loved include After School Special, Sam Interrupted, Hammer of the Gods, Weekend at Bobby's, Family Matters, Unforgiven, and Plucky.

On the second one, I went with Citizen Fang despite a lot of problems with the Benny story. But what can I say, it was a strong episode. A close second is Hunteri.
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carm GMarch 6, 2013 at 1:09 PM
These guys aren't the worst writing duo. The worst ones are Brad Bucker and Eugenie Ross-Leming.
I find Loflin better than Dabb when they are writing solo. As a duo, yes they've had some crappy episodes, but they are still heads above water over Buckner and Ross-Leming.
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RjupiterMarch 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM
the ability to have an honest opinion about anything, even things we like, is vital to having a good rational foundation with limited bias that being said, and if you must know, i haven't watched the show in a long while a recently came back and caught up which included this season thus far. i believe in having as much information as possible when talking about a topic and that means watching a bulk of episodes/season i find boring. i'm sorry if you find that the opinions of others which don't align with yours to be offensive. maybe you be more incline to find the reality TV of which you propose as interesting/not boring more to your liking instead of reading my comments.
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rehabberMarch 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM
I never said your comments were offensive, just trying to understand why spend the time watching something you don't like. Just seems like a waste of time and I have better things to do. Sorry you don't.
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KS WinchesterMarch 6, 2013 at 6:37 PM
Well, I didn't read or watch many fantasy movies/ books. But among the very few I watched, the important task is done usually only by one character. Like Frodo Baggins gets to be the ring bearer and Luke Skywalker gets to be the Jedi. Its usually one person that ends up being the most suitable. So, I don't see any wrong in this one too.
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RjupiterMarch 6, 2013 at 8:38 PM
again, that is an assumption you made as to my like or not of the show, as a whole, which is what i believe you are alluding to. it is nice that you are very concerned with how i spend my time, i appreciate that. however, if you have better things to do, and again a backhanded implication that i do not, then why do you watch? or why do you comment? also, as i already explained before, which i am afraid you did not pickup on, i will not tread the ground again or offer you any further justification or try to have a healthy debate on the matter. i digress and end this line of pointless personal pokes to wish you the best in whatever you choose to watch or not.
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C PMarch 6, 2013 at 11:18 PM
The issue was the brothers fighting over if they should/shouldn't kill Amy and Dean going behind Sam's back to kill her and then the fallout from it (for half the season!).
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isleofskyeMarch 7, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Quotes:-
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[SAM: It's okay...because you're my brother...and I still love ya.]

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[Dr Fuller: To be frank, the relationship you have with your brother seems
dangerously codependent. I think a little time apart will do you both
good.]
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I really enjoyed this episode and I thought Martin was an interesting character, giving us a look at what could happen to a hunter other than being killed by some random monster; a nervous breakdown!
I also found the Wraith interesting and the actress who played it, did it very well.
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isleofskyeMarch 7, 2013 at 8:02 AM
The best quotes IMO come from the annoying teens.
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[ Gary (as Sam): I have a gun, I'm getting drunk, and I look like this.]

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[Trevor: I wouldn't exactly call praying to our Dark Overlord goofing around.]

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I have to say I enjoyed this episode.

Certainly, Dean taking so long to understand that it wasn't Sam was rather uncharacteristic but just as in the Siren episode Dean was seeing what he would like to have seen, that is Sam with the same taste and intersts as himself, but the scene in which he does realise that Sam wasn't hinmself was great. His shadow looming in the motel room was epic. :)
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I though the stupid kids were well acted too, and I loved it when Trevor called up the demon and she killed him . Great satisfaction on my part.. So IMO not too bad an episode.
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isleofskyeMarch 7, 2013 at 8:12 AM
[Sam: Dean, it's Valentine Day. Your favorite holiday, remember? I mean, what do you always call it -- Unattached Drifter Christmas? ]

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[Cupid: "Yeah the union of John and Mary Winchester. Very big deal
upstairs, a top priority arrangement." Dean: A"re you saying that you
fixed up our parents?"]

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Here again , I liked this episode. The 'eating each other' scene was gross but this is a horror show so in a way one has to be taken aback.
Castiel stuffing his face with the raw meat was just as stomach turning for me if not more.
I thought Famine was really hideous and for that very well acted. :)
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isleofskyeMarch 7, 2013 at 8:22 AM
[Sam: "An angel." Mary: "What? There's no such thing." Dean:
"I wish. But they're twice as strong as demons and bigger d**." ]
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Never was a truer word spoken,Sammy!

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[ John: "Look how long have you known about this uh hunting stuff?"
Sam: "Uh pretty much forever. My dad raised me in it." John: "You're
serious? Well who the hell does that to a kid?"]
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I thought this quote was just so bitter-sweet knowing what we know about the future.
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