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Renewal/ Cancellation Buzz - From network sources Via TV Wise

Mar 31, 2013

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CW:

Hart of Dixie and Nikita: Will be renewed
Cult: will be cancelled
Beauty and the Beast: on track for renewal
The Carrie Diaries: set to be cancelled

FOX:
Glee: negotiating renewal
Touch & Goodwin Games: will be cancelled

NBC:
1600 Penn, Deception, Guys With Kids, The New Normal, Smash, Up All Night and Whitney: Set to be cancelled
Chicago Fire, Grimm, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, Parenthood and Revolution: locks for renewal
Community, Go On and Parks and Recreation: looking good for renewal

ABC:
Castle, Grey’s Anatomy, The Middle, Modern Family, Once Upon A Time, Revenge and Scandal: Locks for renewal
Last Man Standing, Malibu Country, Nashville and Suburgatory: set for renewal
Body of Proof and The Neighbors : on the bubble
Happy Endings and Red Widow: will be cancelled


CBS:
Criminal Minds and Two And A Half Men : will be renewed
Rules of Engagement and Vegas: will be cancelled
Golden Boy: on the bubble
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187 comments:

  1. YES COMMUNITY YES!!!!!!!

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  2. Can't lose Happy Endings :(

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  3. Thank you for the news but still nothing about CSI NY, although i know that it is cancelled.

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  4. I was really starting to love "Red Widow" ... damn :-(

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  5. Love Red Widow, please don't cancel :( Their ratings were up 20% last weekend !

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  6. Spent my day catching up on nikita season 3. Would love a renewal. I NEED TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT CSI NY!!!!
    I'd be really shocked if criminal minds got cancelled.

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  7. Pls let Beauty and the Beast get renewed. This is the best show on the CW.

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  8. YES BEAUTY AND THE BEAST YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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  9. I thought that Goodwin Games hasn't even started yet...

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  10. Seeing one of the actors from the start of CSI NY already booked for a regular role on Royal Pains i think the show is anyway canned (like the actors and producers know it).

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  11. Not to get ahead of myself but really happy for Beauty and the Beast.

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  12. they have no faith in it they even publicly said if they thought it would do better than repeats in their comedy block they would have aired it in season

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  13. I don't get the B&B appeal. The show is awful... Anyway, good for Nikita and Dixie. Elsewhere, Glee will be renewed for sure, although I would love if they dropped the NY part as a whole..

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  14. LOL, then they shouldn't have picked it up in the first place. But it's a shame that they're not giving them a real shot.
    And thanks for clearing that up for me. :)

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  15. Let them please renew BATB of course and Community and Happy Endings. Two of the best comedies ever. If any of those three get cancelled I will be extremely sad.

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  16. Only bubble show I'm concerned about is Body of Proof. Rules of Engagement is a nugget; which means it just might survive.

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  17. As long as Revenge and Scandal are back, I'm good.

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  18. Carrie diaries an rules of engagement :(

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  19. On Covert Affairs, but yeah also the new detective Jamie Lovato (Natalie Martinez) was cast in under the dome and also Megan Dodds was also cast in I Am A Victor. Son all in all we see much of the stars going to other projects and i don't see them continuing the series without them more so with Megan Dodds which we saw Mac propose to her in the finale.

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  20. YAY!!!!! Beauty and the Beast!!!!! :)))))))

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  21. Nooooo happy endings

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  22. ssi que bien, grimm y once upon a time son mis favoritas, ahora a esperar la renovacion oficial xd.

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  23. Nikita renewal? Wow, awesome.
    Touch cancelled is expected but sucks.
    Whitney deserves to die a horrible death (the show, not the actress)
    Community, Go On and Parks and Recreation definitely deserve to return as they are some of the best comedies.
    Happy Endings cancellation sucks as well.

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  24. beauty and the beast !!! :) :) :) come on renew it !!!

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  25. Still really pissed about what they did to Goodwin Games, tbh.


    Thank God about Go On and Nashville! Those were two I was really worried about.

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  26. Pls renewed BATB, we Beasties love it:)

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  27. I hope Batb gets cancelled. I gave it 10 episodes and I remained baffled by the poor writing, acting and how boring and minimalistic the show was. It's time slot could be used to launch a new show that could actually be good next fall. The CW has a lot of promising pilots filming. Or cancelling Batb would give TVD a chance, even on Fridays, since it's a good teen show and the CW can't live by only genre shows.


    And then, there's the ratings issue. Batb lost half of its audience two weeks after its pilot, which isn't good. And I'm sure it being a procedural made the network had better ratings expectations than multiple 0.5s in the FIRST season. Plus, you would think that Kristen Kreuk would draw in more viewers. And there's the retention out of TVD that's expected, but Batb fails at that too. Certainly a new show will air next fall after tvd, Batb, if moved to a new night, should do worse, maybe 0.2/0.3s, which would be certain cancellation. So the CW should just get rid of it this season already. I don't think some passionate fans and supposedly good overseas numbers would make up for the awful ratings, even lower if there's a second season. Cancel it, and give TCD or The Selection, Tomorrow People, or other pilot a chance.

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  28. romanticelizabeth4March 31, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    I only watched B&B once and it was awful but they can cancel everything. I think they are going to move it to Fridays with Nikita.

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  29. romanticelizabeth4March 31, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    I can't believe Community still has hope. I was already accepting the cancellation. This made me so happy.

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  30. How many episodes have you watched? Don´t judge a book only by its cover. #BATB

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  31. If you only watched once why do you say it´s awful? i don´t you give another try, watch the last 5 episodes and then tell me if you maintain the same opinion. #BATB

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  32. Thats good you dont like the show, but sorry to tell you there is a lot of us that like the show, as I dont watch anything else on the network but this show, even get to see the last 5 minutes of TVD when I have never watched it and have not intention on doing so because I feel the same that you feel with BATB. But hey people like different things thats the reason there are so many shows out there where to pick from. And the only way the CW will put a new show over BATB (when this show clearly has a based fandom) only if the pilot and the CW has a lot of faith in it, which I doubt.

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  33. How accurate is this? Cause all the series that I see will be renewed accordingly and I don't want to be excited so soon!!!! x-)

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  34. ahh nooo the new normal set for cancellation i love that show i cry for that show so sad :(

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  35. LOL Mr.? I dont watch Nikita and no Dixie. I could ask myself that but since there is no appeal for those shows either what would I ask?

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  36. in tv wise the source for this news it says that csi ny is set for cancellation

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  37. I actually watched the first half of the season, waiting for the show to get better (bc I had high hopes for the show since the pilot development) but after all, I wasted my time.

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  38. Read the original article....they weren't actually so sure about Nashville?! But things are not looking completely hopeless.

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  39. This actually sounds pretty accurate. My disagreements:
    - Beauty and the Beast is a bubble show for me. So on track for renewal sounds like a reasonable possibility, although it would be equally reasonable if it was on track to be canceled
    - I think there is some chance that Whitney comes back, albeit small. I would leave it as bubble, but this is also pretty ok - the only chance it has, IMO, is to come back as spackle again, but that is not very likely
    - Parks and Recs is a lock for renewal
    - I doubt NBC will renew both Community and Go On. I am 90% sure one of them will be renewed and used as sacrificial lamb against the big bang theory, but two of them sound unlikely.
    - I still say there is some sort of chance for HE, but I will not argue if you say it will be canceled neither I will be surprised. All the other ABC predictions sound spot on, even though I am not sure Nashville is in a better position than Body of Proof for one to be renewal and the other bubble. Also, I suppose there is some chance Malibu Country doesn't come back, even though I think it will!
    - Golden Boy is certain to be canceled IMO, not sure how it can be on the bubble, sure CBS can do better with their new pilots than it is doing with it. At least they ought to try!

    But overall, pretty accurate list.

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  40. It certainly has hope. I give it the edge on the three NBC bubble comedies (Community, Go On and Whitney). I think at this point is basically battling with Go On for the spot. It is also possible, as the article suggests, that both Go On and Community are renewed, with Go On most likely taking the Thursdays at 8 spot and Community being saved to midseason again!

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  41. as someone who has watched it more than once on a few occasions just because it comes on after TVD yes it is awful and the fact that it is universally panned by critics doesn't help

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  42. It is a very long shot at this point considering it was battling the mentalist for the last spot and the mentalist was already renewed.

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  43. They will be back for sure ;) Love them both!

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  44. You don't like it?? Okay no worries. But ask for it get cancelled because you didn't get the appeal?? I Can honestly tell you 10 shows i don't like or get the appeal such as TBBT but i don't Bash it.SO Shut Up!!

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  45. I think Body of Proof has a decent chance of saving itself. It needs to remain higher than 1.5 for the remainder of the season and it needs the other ABC shows to not set the world on fire in the meantime. But I think it will be back, although it certainly belongs on the bubble at this point.

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  46. That is exactly why it is virtually certain to be canceled!

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  47. Yeah I know. Want to know too how accurate! I'll die if SVU won't get renewed (okay maybe not die but you know?! ;)

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  48. Oooh I really hope that #BATB will be renewed! I fell in love with this show. Especially the las few episodes have been really, really good!

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  49. i suggest watching the latest episode just to see what you think of the show now

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  50. Mr. Brightside..I can agree with you that the first couple of episodes of B&B were weak but the show has really taken a different path that has made it into one of the best shows om the CW. Give it a second chance. You will not regret it. I watch HOD, Glee, etc. These seem childish next to the grownup B&B.

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  51. Don't bother Honey.Beating a dead Horse!!

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  52. Community and Go On are the only shows i watch that are in danger... Good to see themwith hope.


    On the B&TB debate, I gave it a try 'cause a friend told me to watch it: With all due respect of the fans, i tought it was a show with very poor acting and incredible bad writers, with a lot of cheesy dialoge... Also, The CW fail again to retain TVD's ratings, for i, personally, would't renew the show.


    The CW must develop a new show and try again to lure the Vampire Diares' regular watcher... If B&TB is being pulled out of it's current time slot, it will lose all it's steam and drop to 0.4's... In my opinion, the show must be cancelled.


    They need something to work as Arrow/Supernatural do... Supernatural(I droped it after half of Season 7. For me it should have ended on Season 5 with a high note--- Great show from Seasons 1-5) got a rating bump! SN increse it's ratings from the Arrow audience quite a lot! Making both a great pair! Now The CW must continue with this Arrow/SN for at least two Season... They are good to each other!

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  53. "I hope BatB gets Cancelled" Didn't even bother to read ahead....
    I Hope Life gives you something better to do.

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  54. Yay ...BATB pls be renewed <3

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  55. Pilot was universally panned by critics and viewers, but the show after the 4 or 5th episode changed and now its a complete different show from the beginning, and many many of those critics have changed their minds too and expressed it in recent reviews of the episodes, I would tell you to watch recent episodes or look up critics on the last episodes, since it would be bias from me to tell you that the show just got better since I always have loved the show.

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  56. "Cancel it, and give TCD or The Selection, Tomorrow People, or other pilot a chance."
    They did give TCD a chance, it's just not working out at all.
    As for the other pilots, BatB has no influence on them since they'll be used to replace the failed cancellations from this season.

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  57. You say you gave BATB 10 eps, but if you did you would know its no longer a procedural based show. This is NOT a teeny bopper show. It's content is very much geared for adults and personally, I find the writing/acting to be of equal or better value than many of the other CW shows. Saying that the CW should cancel it because of low ratings to make room for better shows, like TCD, is laughable. TCD is the second lowest in ratings for the CW! lol. Plus there is no guarantee that any of those pilots will take off! Keeping BATB makes sense to me, they have invested SO little in advertising yet it still manages to pull in better ratings than the heavily promoted TCD.

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  58. let's hope the CW predictions are right

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  59. Wow lots of people being negative about shows, I personally love BATB and find other certain shows pointless which I wont mention out of respect for their fanbase. What I hate, and it has happend with so many shows in the past is when a show just gets dropped. Every show has fans (no matter how small) and the network obviously knows when a show is going to be dropped...so...they should,out of respect for their fans end the show properly . Desperate housewives, Friends, Prison Break and millions more successful shows finished their shows for the fans with complete closure of story arcs etc. The same should happen to the small not successful shows, there may not be many of them but the fans have devoted their time to follow and support that show. Anyway I hope Beauty and the beast does get another season (it is getting better every ep:) along with park & rec, go on & community but if they just cut these shows dead like so many others I have liked in the past, I for one will not watch another new show until it is into its second or third season so I'm not wasting my time.

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  60. I'm rooting for a S2 for BATB!!! It's SUCH a good show! It's a shame it took a while to find its groove, because it has matured into an intense series filled with action, suspense, drama, humor, and romance. Due to poor advertising many people don't understand this version of the beast and have misconceptions about this show. I know I did at first. But I gave it a chance half way through and now I'm a HUGE fan and nothing else compares to this show for me now. I highly recommend watching a more recent ep with an open mind and giving it a chance you just might be pleasantly surprised. I know I was.

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  61. I hope that BaTB will be cancelled. I watch every episode and i will watch season 2 it there will be one. Its just that its probably my least favourite CW show right now (only 90210 is worse), but still good. I still hope that miracle will happen and Carrie will be renewed :D .......................... its true that it will probably loose some ratings if wont be paired with TVD and im almost sure that it wont because i think taht TVD will be paired with The Originals. But who knows, maybe they will pair it with Arrow or Supernatural and its rating will get bigger.....................and its really bad that Cult is such a flop :/ i think its really great show :D

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  62. it had pretty good sampling for the pilot so advertising was never the problem. Sometimes people just dont like a show, Beauty lost half its demo rating from episode 1 to 2 that to me says that people just didnt like what they saw.

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  63. 6 hours renewed leaving 4 hours on the Fall schedule to fill? That seems quite likely.

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  64. #Batb has changed so much as a show! If you haven't watched ep 10 to 17 then you really can't pass judgment. I haven't watched TCD or cult etc so I don't write misleading comments abt shows I don't watch!

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  65. The Carrie Diaries...:( NO...

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  66. Wheres the love for Happy Endings! Please keep it ABC.

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  67. yeah I think the beauty and beast thing gets watched by same audience as twilight movies *barf* honestly.

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  68. Does this mean CSI NY may still have a chance? I hope so...it's the best show on Friday's

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  69. I agree with you, god that acting in B&B. As I already said before it's likely watched by same audience that goes to that stupid Twilight dreck. The acting is on the same level at least.

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  70. Hm maybe it's because Nashville earns a lot with its original music (no covers). I dunno... I hope it comes back for a 2nd season.

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  71. I don't think your claim about Arrow is fair for SPN. Arrow may be helped a little at the beginning, but now it has been proved multiple times that SPN rating does not depend on Arrow. SPN even outperform Arrow in demo this week. I think the reason is that show has been resurrected from deadly writing of seasons 6-7.It's much better now so is ratings. You don't see it because you don't watch it any more.

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  72. I'm with you on this.


    BatB is airing after the network's highest rated show and is losing about 50% of its lead in audience and is doing approximately the same of the cancelled show that aired in its time slot the year before.

    TCD on the other hand, airing before 90210, was not given a proper chance. The viewers TCD have might be less, but they are loyal viewers who tune in for the show, they are not residuals from something that aired the hour before.

    I honestly don't care what The CW decides about BatB, I'm happy for the fans if it is renewed (afterall they have an empty spot on Friday - supposing they renew Nikita for that syndication reason - and BatB doesn't look like a very expensive show) but there's no way in hell it is staying after TVD.

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  73. The pilot is not a good sampling of what the show is now. It has changed a great deal since the pilot. Thats what I'm trying to say. People tuned out after the pilot and have made their mind up about this show. But the show has changed/improved a lot since then. And as a frequent CW viewer I disagree about the advertising. I saw very few promos for BATB but was bombarded with TCD, Arrow and Cult promos. I think the CW thought being behind TVD would be enough, but TVD fans have proven to be an unreliable audience since nothing as benefited from the TVD success yet.

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  74. It was given promo and hype that didn't pan out the way they wanted it to, especially with trying to cash in to SatC's franchise success, it just didn't resonate with people. Arrow didn't need a lead in and it did just fine.

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  75. I agree. Fans deserve closure for their shows.

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  76. tem que renovar the carrie diaries... ::(

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  77. lol! In my case are Nikita, Grimm and OUAT, very worried for my Niki, hopefully in vain :)

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  78. Happy for Hart of Dixie

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  79. You forgot to add a label tag for Nikita...

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  80. It doesn't just depend on the shows on air it also depends on the new pilots for next year if a lot of them are good then these bubble shows won't be renewed.

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  81. Supernatural has been on for years, there is no way that the arrow has affected its ratings if anything it works the other way people had nothing to watch at 8 so they watched arrow because they were going to watch supernatural at 9. Thats not an insult to arrow i'm just saying a new show that premiered this year wouldn't effect the ratings of a show in its 8th season. People just don't tune into a show on its 8th season that they know nothing about.

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  82. I so want to welcome you with harsh words but then they would remove my comment so i'm just going to be as nice as i can.

    I don't like TVD and TBBT and Glee but i try not to go out there and upset their fans with my words.Because i respect their likes.If they love those shows and find it appealing i am no one to judge and bash the shows because clearly i can't force people to like and dislike the shows i like and dislike. I try to avoid the fans as well as the shows.

    So as i have said many times before it is completely fine if you don't like the show for some reason.But if you could be nice about it,it'll be really cool.

    But my patience starts to run low when i read comments like yours.I mean you are just being biased about.It's clear you have some hate issues for shows that have crazy obsessed fans (Mentioned twilight) who would do anything for the show/Movie Series they love.Which is an admirable thing.Not every show has such dedicated and loyal fans and it's completely normal to get jealous if the show you love doesn't have that kind of following.

    I don't know if you even know the ABC of acting,you don't like the show you have no other reason to say why so you go and say how awful the acting is??How immature is that??

    Trust me i watch a lot of shows and i see actors giving amazing performances day and day out.This show has some amazing actors and whether you accept it or not they're performing as well as they can maybe even better.

    So please i'm saying it nicely if you don't find this show appealing don't waste your time on it.

    Thanks.

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  83. Great news for most of my favorites! So happy for Hart of Dixie, Community, Parks and Rec, and Parenthood - those are the ones I was worried about. No surprises on ABC. The only dark spot is Happy Endings :(

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  84. Yes!!!BATB!!Best show ever!!I don't really understand how some people can make a "critique" of the show when they only watched the pilot!!It's the same as making a critic of a book by reading the plot!!!I want BATB to be renewed because I actually watch it,enjoy it and know it deserves a 2nd season.I don't make a critique of other shows because I'm respecful of their fans and simply because I don't watch them.

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  85. I want Whitney to be renewed. It became so good.

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  86. Once Upon A Time and Revenge: Lock for renewal, YES! I had a feeling they were safe.
    But, seeing Beauty and the Beast on track for renewal brings joy to my eyes.
    We beasties love our show and are fighting hard for it, so that gives us such joy seeing that.
    I'm sorry for the fans of the other shows that are seeing their favorite show being in danger of cancellation, cause it does suck when your show is in danger.

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  87. what about CSI: NY on this list they should atleast it as likely to be cancelled

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  88. Yay for Hod,Nashvill, ONCE.Sad about Carrie Diaries.BATB I'll be happy but suprised its renewed.

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  89. you mean the critics who only watched the pilot episode?

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  90. True, but I am not sure those are meaningful enough to make that big of a difference, especially because I also suspect the show might be slightly more expensive, which is likely to offset that. But Nashville is a first year show, so ratings tend to be less stable in future years, meaning that future drops tend to be higher, which is why I am not sure it is in a much better position than BoP is. I think at the end of the day both will be renewed though, but there is some chance that one of them makes it and the other doesn't.

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  91. Saying that it has no shot at all doesn't seem right, but it has a very very small chance at this point, because the mentalist was already renewed and it was basically a one or the other scenario, otherwise CBS will only be able to premiere 2.5 new hours in the fall, which is too little.

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  92. "It's content is very much geared for adults" who are you fooling this is the CW your talking about and even though I watch some of the shows on the network let's be honest ALL of it's shows are targeted to the teeny bopper demographic. some more or less but still.

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  93. They Say bad acting and writing but You should see HOD. It's a soap opera with no real storyline except love triangles, carnivals and the odd doctors case. It's very easy watching.

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  94. Happy about Once,Nashville,HoD.Ill be suprised but happy if BatB is renewed.

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  95. Will be so upset if the Neighbors is cancelled :( One of the best comedies since alf! I did like 3rd rock too but the kids in the Neighbors make it a bigger winner to me. YAY for Grimm!!! Once Upon a Time is slowly losing me so I actually don't care about it right now. What about Elementary? And I hope BATB gets renewed because while I don't need to see them get physical every ep like some people, I actually really enjoy the show and I adore Kristin. (for the BATB fans, if you haven't seen her movie 'Partition' its so great)

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  96. That is simply not true and a stereotype created by Dawn Ostroff when she was running the CW. I think you would be surprised at how old some CW shows skew. Arrow and Nikita being the two oldest-skewing. Supernatural skews older than the rest too.

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  97. No worries AT ALL for Grimm or OUaT. They are pretty much guaranteed to be renewed unless there's some big contract dispute. Nikita will likely live for one last season just because of syndication.

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  98. Even if Beauty and the Beast gets cancelled, it will not improve The Carrie Diaries' chances. The only thing that could save it would be an increase in the ratings. The Cw is desperate but I can't see it as so desperate it would renew 2 shows pulling 0.4's.

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  99. TV is a business and its clients are actually advertisers not viewers. I agree if at all possible TV shows should be informed that they are going to be cancelled before filming ends but sometimes studios don't know yet. TV scripts are written well ahead of when they are shot and they are shot well before they are aired. Unless a studio knows months in advance, it may not always be feasible. They certainly aren't going to pay writers to come in and write a new script for a show that is going to be cancelled much less call the cast and crew to reshoot. It sucks and I've had plenty of shows just end on me, but sadly that's business.

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  100. I disagree. Arrow and Beauty and the Beast got a wealth of advertising in September and October. I actually saw a lot about them in the summer too. The new fall show that got shafted was Emily Owens. I didn't watch that show except the pilot but those fans had a right to complain about the advertising.


    I do agree that Vampire Diaries has proven to be a poor launching pad for new series. If the Originals does not have good retention ratings, it will be time to switch VD to the later time slot and premiere something before it similar to how Arrow premiered before Supernatural.

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  101. Unless they keep them together on Wednesdays, Arrow and Supernatural will be paired with new shows. If TCD survives at all, and I am betting it will not, it's destined for Fridays.

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  102. Very well said Beezus its beyond understanding with people likes.....

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  103. Dammit, I expected Touch to get cancelled but didn't actually want it to >>happen.<< That was like my second-favorite show man. :(

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  104. Glad Hart of Dixie will be renewed, but Beauty and the Beast has better ratings than Nikita, it should be a lock for renewal!! Come on CW get on it!!

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  105. Do you even watch the CW?! Because it sounds more like you formed your opinion about the network a while ago and are too narrow minded to change it.

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  106. Ratings are just part of the story (although a major one). You also need to take into account syndication proximity and Nikita clearly wins there. Also, you have to remember that a 0.4 on Friday equals a 0.5 on a weekday, so it is not even obvious that BB's ratings are better than Nikita's. Nikita is a certain renewal at this point, Beauty and the Beast is a bubble show.

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  107. It does helps a little bit... On Season 7, SN average a 0.7 demo, while on this Seasons it reached 1.0 on multiple times an average a 0.9 on the demo... For a show on The CW, this 0.2 diference is great.

    I'm not taking any merit of SN, the show is still one of the network's best even having 8 seasons in... Just saying the pairing worked well... While B&TB and TVD didn't: TVD average a 1.3 demo this Season while B&TB's was 0.6... That's less than 50% from it's lead in... And all shows's ratings drops after Season 1...



    The CW should put a new show and try to retain TVD's regular viewer...

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  108. "Touch" and "Smash" being cancelled...that's the best news ever. :)

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  109. I've read that the pilot was great, the episodes after weren't....

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  110. I've read that the pilot of Goodwin Games was great, the episodes after weren't....

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  111. All these networks need to work on getting their median age lower. CW is the best (I think) with 42 but seriously...

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  112. I refuse to completely believe Happy Endings is gone until ABC unveils their lineup. Ugh. :/ It seems impossible but stranger things have happened.

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  113. What about Nikita? Season four for sure!

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  114. gossip girl, 90210, carrie diaries, hart of dixie, tvd, and beauty and the beast that is probably 90% of the shows on the cw targeted to that demographic and yes I watch some of those shows.

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  115. LOL half a season is a lot, leave the guy alone. People give up shows after 5 episodes, why would he bother? Some Batb fans are annoyingly preposterous. A lot of people don't like the show. Get over it.

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  116. that was the old version. on this updated version of TV buzz it is indeed set to be renewed.

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  117. And Nikitaaaaaaaaa!!!

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  118. Actually the acting being atrocious in B&B actively turns me away as a viewer from a show like that. And again I'm drawing the parallels with Twilight because the basic premise is the same, and it seems to aim for the same audience. The acting being on same low level is just icing on the cake when it comes to making my case.


    Also it has nothing to do with my shows having active following, I watch a wide range of shows. Hell I watch Lost Girl, and the acting isn't all there either, but at least they show doesn't take itself seriously. Oddly enough LG still sticks out head and shoulders above B&B.


    I'm not going to go on another twilight-related rant. As someone who grew up with quality vampire literature and movies, having to watch that movie-series get titled heavenwards by tweens makes me puke. I'll sidebar here I only watched a few of the scenes and read synopses.


    But it got universally and critically panned by just about everyone out there. The same goes for B&B, which says enough for me. I'll admit I only watched the first 5 episodes of B&B superficially, I don't get the appeal, if you do, more to you.

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  119. Haha you say BATB bad acting and plot lines, then hope they save HOD and glee....cause the acting is amazing in those, and as for the gripping storylines?? Please lol

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  120. I really hope this proves to be true and Beauty and the Beast will be renewed.

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  121. COME ON GIVE BEAUTY AND THE BEAST A SECOND SEASON !!! I LOVE THIS SHOW :) :)

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  122. 90210, TCD & TVD do have a largely teen cast so I agree that those are teen geared shows (although myself and everyone I know that watches TVD are MUCH older than the teen target). However I disagree about BATB (HOD does sometimes have an immaturity to it so I guess it could go either way but IMO it leans more to adult). BATB, Arrow, Nikita all have a mature cast and the scripts deal with situations presented to people in their late twenties to mid thirties. It wasn't THAT long ago that I was a teen so I have not forgotten what attracted me to a TV at that age. Watching a cast that was 10 or so years older than me, dealing with things that I had no interest in (real jobs, running for their lives, etc.), was not my idea of a good show. The fact that the CW has cancelled GG, 90210 and with things not looking good for TCD I think its safe to say the CW is NOT the same network that focused on teens anymore.

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  123. Hart of Dixie, Nikita, Go On are all good surprises. I thought Community was on it's last season regardless? Really sad Rules of Engagement won't be around next season but no doubt we'll be seeing repeats for years to come.

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  124. ATROCIOUS?? You have no right to be that harsh. What show are you watching??
    And i'm sorry but what parallels are you talking about?? Do you see two teen age guys fighting over for a girl?? Do you see a Beast Family?? Or do you see a girl stuck between her feelings for two guys. Is there a love triangle that you see??
    The only thing that is common between twilight and BatB is the Genre which is Mythology and Love story and Supernatural Element.Other than that BatB is completely a different show with a lot of maturity.
    I myself is not a big fan of twilight series but the acting was good overall so you can't mock the acting because you didn't find it attracting.
    As far as BatB goes,the acting might not be of Academy level but it's pretty decent.Again you should find a better reason.
    And talking about premise if it is what you're talking about then i'd say they have succeeded and have gathered a number of die hard dedicated fans.
    I really don't care what you think of twilight cuz i'm not a fan.
    BatB yes got panned by critics earlier but even some of them have changed their views as this show (unfortunately for you that you left right where it started to pick up) have really picked up.

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  125. Dont bother, if you didnt like the show after episode , you will never do! So why bother?

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  126. OMFL, I dont even watch twilight or tvd and I LOVE LOVE BATB, so it doesnt make me the same target audience but I do respect their fanbases because it just show how passionated some people are for their likes, and if you dont like something just turn the channel there is something called remote control, duhh?! :)

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  127. what does twilight has to do with batb, thats you assumption of it, not mine, I find twilight not of my likes I dont watch it and i dont follow it simple as that but I dont go on hating on it, because it does have a following....we have never said BATB has the best quality but its the only thing I watch in the CW hence is the only one that i will vote for, and i have tried other shows in the same network but didnt work for me. I also watch other shows in other networks that got nothing to do with BATB so do i have to be labeled as the target audience for BATB only when I watch TWD, Vikings or Spartacus, not right? My point! People like what they like....and period!

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  128. LOL that's what i said didn't i?? Leave the guy/girl alone he doesn't want to watch it.Seriously where are you looking??

    No we don't really care if " A Lot" of people don't like the show until they start mocking and bashing it and start acting like "annoyingly presposterous"
    You don't like the show FINE!! Get over it!!

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  129. If TCD is renewed I doubt it will be headed to Friday, seems more likely thats where Beauty is headed if renewed. If TCD is renewed which I dont think will happen I can see it being used a as mid season replacement again/schedule filler.

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  130. You sound like a 13 year old teenie, God. That's why people mock and dislike Batb fans. You sound juvenile. People watched it and disliked it, they'll criticise it, get over it.

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  131. She does, it's her opinion. Just because you love the show it doesn't mean a lot of people find it atrocious. I agree with her. Stop harrassing and hunting people down for it. Get a grip.

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  132. Honey please at least have some solid words before you enter a discussion.
    And i'm Juvenile??

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  133. Sweetheart clearly you don't even know what we're talking about here so Please...
    She called the acting atrocious, i didn't say those who don't like the show find it Atrocious. Go through the discussion thoroughly before you start talking.
    Excuse me? I am harassing? You and people like you Mock us and our show just because it's not appealing to you and you say we're harassing you. OH MY GOD!!

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  134. And i hope life gives you something better to do than wasting your time on something that you hate.

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  135. I agree that Beauty and the Beast seem likely to go to Friday. They won't waste an opportunity to launch a pilot with a successful show if they unbundle Arrow and Supernatural and BatB is too weak to launch a pilot with. I just don't see them renewing Carrie Diaries at all even as schedule spackle. There's no advantage to it having yet another short season when that gets them no where toward syndication and there isn't enough ratings wise to make it worthwhile to try to get buzz going. Even if their new shows bomb, it's hard to believe that a 0.4 is suddenly going to look that much better.

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  136. I don't know if you've realized it, but you are bashing too. Just because you don't say names doesn't mean you are not. Other than that I agree with you, every audience and fandom deserves respect. Whether we like it or not.

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  137. Happy for Hart of Dixie and afor all the fans of the shows that might get renewed!!! Now let's wait for the CW to do so.

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  138. I dont think anything you put in that time slot will have good ratings when its up against Grey's Anatomy & Glee unless its TVD or Supernatural who also have a big following and have been around for a while like these shows....although I wouldn't risk putting a sucessful show head to head with them for fear of losing.

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  139. SVU!!!!!!!!! woohooo! Kiss it haters!

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  140. It is a very very safe bet!

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  141. It is not totally impossible yet. It is looking terrible, but I still say there is a small chance

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  142. I don't watch either, but that comment is just terrible.

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  143. Never watched Twilight - not even sure what it is? In any event B&TB is really very good in my humble opinion!. It's romantic and the love scenes are tastefully acted and filmed but remain very hot and steamy. Jay Ryan and Kristen Kreuk are awesome together - their chemistry is very realistic so they either have genuine feelings for each other OR they are portraying that to the audience via their acting skills!!!!!. In any event, I think you have to watch it more than once. Hill Street Blues (from the 70's) got terrible reviews initially but it went on to be one of the best cop shows on TV for a very long time. Give B&TB another chance!

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  144. B&TB has been around a lot longer than twilight it was a tv show in the 80's so no parallels at all

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  145. Damn right I dont know why but I LOVE this show

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  146. I have absolutely no idea how Rules of Engagement held on as long as it did, but I'm gonna miss it.

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  147. So does Beezus, she is striking back because after all his mocking two fandoms BAT B and Twilight

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  148. Please dont cancel Deception! I love that show! Also, Body of Proof!

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  149. What about the good wife?

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  150. Deception will get canned. I dont think Body of Proof will be canned, it will maybe not get a full fourth (?) season, but not get the axe.

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  151. waw ...could you just take it easy ...what i'm trying to say is that the fan base of BATB it's getting bigger and bigger every single day ...and you can see that on fb , twitter ...etc ...just relax :) :) BTW since every show has some competition goin' on and nikita is not ''winning'' it's normal for people to wondering about what's goin' on...and again ''take it easy'' :) :P

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  152. I'm really going to miss The New Normal. With a few faux pas, it was consistently entertaining.

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  153. Second season for Beauty and the Beast is a NECESSITY not an OPTION. Beware there are BEASTIES OUT THERE U DON'T WANNA MESS WITH US!!!

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  154. Pliz drop the romantic part coz if u can't get Beauty and the Beast chemistry your totally not romantic.

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  155. You tell em Bruna. Those episodes were HOT!!!! How can someone not get it?

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  156. Robin ur truly a clank. BATB ROCKS en its gonna be renewed as a Beastie am gonna make sure u eat ur words. And as far as ur critics comment have u read them lately? thought so.

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  157. Actually the parallel is with the older B&tB, which I considered to be far superior to the new version. I have tried it every week, and just don't find the characters engaging, and the writing and acting is just not there. And I wanted it to be good because I loved the previous version a lot. And I have done professional acting, so I know good acting when I see it.



    Linda Hamilton, Roy Dotrice and Ron Perlman have all had good careers as actors, though I never felt that Linda was as strong a performer as Ron and Roy.


    I actually saw it as a preview with Emily Owens and Arrow, and Arrow was the only one I felt would be a winner. And it is the only one that has been a success of the 3 from the start.

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  158. Well excuse me, but I don't like TV shows that exploit people with mental disorders or present a TOO unrealistic view of the real world at times.

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  159. Please Do not Cancel Deception this show does not need to be canceled and deception is a great show and it needs to stay on television air for more seasons and this show needs to be renewed and nbc will not be the same without this show on nbc and My favorite cast members that i love on deception out of all the cast members on deception on nbc are the cast members Joanna Locasto Meagan Good and Julian Bowers Wes Brown and they are both great cast members and it would be great if deception was to be renewed and was to stay on television for more seasons

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  160. Despoina LampridouApril 8, 2014 at 3:37 AM

    yes but batb it's against greys anatomy for crying out loud !!!

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  161. hod is against the voice, tvd is against idol and bbt, supernatural is against mf, carrie is against the voice and cbs comedies, nikita is against no viewership on friday night. Your point? Yes, beauty has competition but so has every show. Do you think it has the most difficult competition? I dont even think so but even if it has, it also has the best lead-in on the network, so the point is mute

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  162. It has already been renewed

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  163. they are certain renewals ;)

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