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POLL : What did you think of Boardwalk Empire - Margate Sands?

Dec 3, 2012

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32 comments:

  1. Richard DiveDecember 3, 2012 at 3:20 AM

    Eli has made up for all of season two, and he didn't even die for it. Hopefully that carries on, it's nice to see the Thompsons caring that much about each other.

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  2. Quinn HopkinsDecember 3, 2012 at 3:51 AM

    Last episode was better. And this was the weakest of the three season finales.

    But at least my baby daddy Eli looked good.

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  3. DarqueModeDecember 3, 2012 at 5:04 AM

    Awesome season finale!


    Richard rescuing Tommy, Capone and Chalky helping Nucky to take out Massarino's men and Nucky putting the pieces in place to consolidate his power hold on AC and at the same time get a little revenge on those who did not help him in his moment of need.


    I'm so tired of Margaret though. I hope Nucky just moves on from her next year as she has been the anchor of the series for 2 years now. On the Sopranos I liked seeing the home life of the lead actor, but on Boardwalk Empire I dread every scene Margaret is in. Very little of her scenes advance the central plots of the seasons and she is just such an unlikable character.

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  4. João PauloDecember 3, 2012 at 5:36 AM

    Definitely awesome finale, so epic moments, Richard rocks, Chalky and Capone in conflict is great, Gillian and Gyp have a weird scene and Nucky finally turn up to be a gangster. Margareth make the right decision, but I sad she lost the baby.

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  5. George YangDecember 3, 2012 at 6:49 AM

    NOT A DREAM AHAHAHA

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  6. CliffDecember 3, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Stay fair. TV and the joy debating shows isn't about being right or wrong. And one can't deny that DarthLocke had good arguments for her interpretation of this season.

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  7. AhnjaylaDecember 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Richard Harrow...........you are lethal and tender all at the same time. Mr Huston you are a fantastic actor!!!!!!!!!!. Eli and Nucky......about time brothers! Gillian will probably need a mental ward....this is the first time I felt sorry for her.....being that little girl and Nucky taking her to the Commodore for sex!!! No wonder she is so messed up!...Mr Rothstein you have troubles now...Nucky set that up beautifully! Capone and Chalky...great scenes! Gyp singing that song about Nucky...Barney with the goog goog googly eyes LOLOLOLOL BYE BYE you twisted man you. I really wish that Margaret would be gone for good.....I wonder if she is really pregnant she looked heavy in the last scene. Hey Lucky Luciano great performance tonight as well. WOW what an incredible finale!!! Thank you Mr Buscemi and cast for one hell of a season! XXXXXOOOO

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  8. DarthLocke4December 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    In the words of John Locke, I was wrong

    Or at least so it appears. To some degree I felt like in any case there was a lack of resolution, due to Nucky not coming face to face with Gyp and killing him himself, especially when one considers he ends up on the boardwalk alone, and irritated at being "known", as he intentionally removes and drops his carnation to the boardwalk floor, either to state who he really is, or to continue to hide it. Ultimately I can't see a whole other season of 'dream logic', so unless something would happen within the first couple of episodes, I would venture to say to rest in peace Jimmy and Gyppy. But I will certainly be curious if BE is forever going to be like S3, where bizarre and eerie twists fate and unstable personalities will continue reign?!

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  9. DarthLocke4December 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    I never said it would end here, but yes, so far it appears it is not a dream.

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  10. DarthLocke4December 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Thank you. (:

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  11. DarthLocke4December 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    I thought S.G. did a really nice job at showing us more of the colors of whom we know Al Capone to become! -I think this one had a lot of weird scenes, but it made the episode interesting.

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  12. DarthLocke4December 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    I agree it was in some ways it the weakest of the three, because it leaves on a rather lonely and unresolved note in terms of all the other characters outside of Nucky and Gyp, but at the same time I thought it was also very artsy and had a lot of visual feasts.

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  13. Meddy AwardeyDecember 3, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    One of this decade's finest episode on television.

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  14. LouDecember 3, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    And people said this show would suffer without Jimmy how wrong they were. After a slow start this season has improved in quality once again. The last 3 episodes especially show just how good it can be but pretty much every ep since Sunday Best has been stunning.

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  15. Death260December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Exactly. It's all about enjoying and debating ideas with other people, it's not a contest.

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  16. DarqueModeDecember 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    I personally never thought the series would suffer without Jimmy. IT is not built on any of the supporting cast IMO .. any of them can die. Nucky/ Buscemi is the center of the story and as long as he lives the show can be brilliant.


    This year was better than last year even without Jimmy.

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  17. DarqueModeDecember 3, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    I think there will always be an element of oddity and eerie to the seasonal guest stars. After all, so many of the well-known gangsters had fascinating quirks about them and were notoriously volatile.


    Gyp was a bit over the top though and I'm not sure there will be another like him. XD

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  18. DarthLocke4December 4, 2012 at 2:29 AM

    I totally find your assessment as always, valid and full of points that I think make a lot of sense, but at the same time I think the season was still presented surreal compared to the way reality was before...


    Ultimately I have to accept Nucky being a full fledged gangster now, and that the surrealistic nature of the season represents a transition from a man who might have once cared, to a guy who just really doesn't anymore, because as you said he didn't take it personally (and he didn't really see "the Jimmy" in it, like the audience does).


    A part of me wonders if the seasons are going to represent the the grieving process, because I found Nucky blind to his former actions. It felt like the writers really didn't want to let Nucky talk about it at all, but instead beat the audience over the head to allusions to it. The first step is denial. His carnation (a symbol of love and compassion) is thrown to the floor and could represent the next stage, anger, but I'll have to wait and see before I think too much on that. :p


    The episode IMO is a juxtaposition to s2's finale, which IMO, even though some things come full circle, I don't feel the circle earned or even really resolved, as much as a wave of mystery and chaos crashed into Atlantic City and just completely rearranged it.


    I missed Van Alden too, but I am looking forward to 1924 when Al Capone takes Cicero!

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  19. DarqueModeDecember 4, 2012 at 4:39 AM

    Maybe some of your perceived surrealism stemmed from thinking Jimmy was not dead and trying to find a way to make that work? I never felt an overwhelming surreal feeling that set it aside from the past seasons, but I took the writers/ producers at their word that Jimmy was dead. So much so that they wanted to make that clear by showing him with a bullet in his head so there was never a question about it.

    I may have to go back and look at your theories since I missed most of them I think. I recall one at the start of the season where you mentioned you thought Jimmy was alive, maybe in Ireland if I recall..... I did not pay too much attention to BE posts this year since I tended to watch episode a week or two late and in mini-marathon.

    To me so much of BE is based in reality, sure a tweaked and heightened quasi-reality, but still based in the historical events of Enoch Johnson, Arnold Rothstein, Lucky Luciano and the rest. I just do not think they will ever do a season long mindf&@% like that. In my opinion it just does not fit the format of the series, but it's just my personal feeling.

    I like the idea of working Nucky through the stages of grieving with each season representing one stage... Although I'm not sure that the series will ever be as thematically abstract as that.

    I really think it is more straight ahead drama based in historical events, but tweaked to make for a more linear story and fit a serial format. Of course the series is heavy in allusion and theme, but I think it is more to evoke emotion and relate events and/or people to one another.

    Even the carnation boutonnière was more symbolic than thematic if that makes sense. Nucky Thompson (as well as the real life Nucky Johnson) was well-known for wearing a red carnation in his lapel. It was part of his very recognizable and very public persona. After a season or two of fighting to be known as the man, the power in Atlantic City, Nucky has realized that anonymity has its benefits too and that he may be better off being a bit less of a public figure. So he discarded that symbol of his former more flamboyant self.

    I think the discarding of his boutonnière was the start of Nucky stepping back behind the curtain... or at least one of the first actions taken in his attempt to do so.

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  20. George YangDecember 4, 2012 at 5:51 AM

    that's implying that everyone enjoys the debate about whether it's a dream. there are those that might, and that's fine, but I didn't, and still don't. It was just irritating...

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  21. CliffDecember 4, 2012 at 7:10 AM

    No, I was implying that this is a public forum with many visitors that have and share different opinions, it's not your place to take a jab at a member with differing views whenever an opportunity presents itself.



    Is that what they teach on universities nowadays? Laughing and pointing the finger at people who interpret a TV show differently? Strange enough that this first comment in SEE I WAS RIGHT CAPITALS of yours was apparently the first that jumped to your mind after watching the finale. Maybe you skipped the part in kindergarten where they tell you that not everyone thinks your opinion is the one true word out there.

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  22. DarthLocke4December 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    To me that scene at the end of season 2 always felt staged. I didn't consider a "dream" at that time, because like you, I never felt that was something presented in Boardwalk's atmosphere so I originally thought that maybe there was a trick gun in involved...

    But then once we got into the season the allusions to Jimmy (or the death of Jimmy), the ideas of dreams (or nightmares), and plots/scenes from other seasons were juxtaposed instead of presenting very new ideas, constant contrasting ideas/beliefs, argumentative statements and narratives, ideas about the romantic educated intellectual, ghosts and Chrisitanity (3 in 1), the way sound and light are used, and looking back at the Sapranos, I ended up thinking very differently, as I noticed this experience/reality/atmosphere was very different than it was before.

    I thought the writers could get away with a dream for a season, and was why I thought it was important that Nucky dealt with Gyp head on, but he did not. And I would doubt that the writers would go beyond a season with it, because I think it would be a great risk, but I am curious how the next season is going to feel or the what things it is going to present.

    After I wrote you yesterday it also dawned on me that Surrealism (the art movement) derived from the 20's. I'm not saying it's gives anymore sway, but it's something to think about, even if it's just a way to show a change in Nucky's reality of world, because of what he did.

    I wrote out the Dream Theory as a SpoilerTV article here (if your interested), http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/11/nuckys-midsummer-nights-dream.html

    But I'm letting it go, unless season 4 is equally off the wall in the same way.

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  23. DarthLocke4December 4, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    But one always have the option to ignore and not participate in a debate, or someone's presented idea. Life is full of annoyances, opinions, and inconveniences, as humanity is always grappling with the world presented around us, as we all can't help to be aware of certain things.


    It's a comment section that is going to be full of comments. Comments that sometimes one might agree with, and sometimes with one's we don't. -But I think it's a given that both these things would exist and odd that one wouldn't be prepared for possible irritating proposals.


    Don't get me wrong, we all have bad days and sometimes we take things out on other people, but honestly I find the rudeness and slap-bang skeptical approach other's responses to ideas (often without an explanation or reason) very disturbing. It shows a complete lack of self control and proof of living in a time of existential crises, as the one should ask themselves, why is one SO irritated at this dumb person that you don't even really know's idea, to the point of a self righteous and nonconstructive or polite response?

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  24. HoH8December 5, 2012 at 3:58 AM

    Ahhhh...another great season of BE.....i was a bit disappointed in the ending when Gyp died....wasnt expecting him to be double-crossed by his own man and killed....it would have been more powerful to have seen Capone, Chalky or even Nucky himself Kill him.....u gotta put Gyp up for one of the Best villians ever......

    i just gotta say the beginning of the epi was Epic when we saw the machine gunning down of those gangsters lined up.....it was the St Valentine's Day Massacre again...i knew Capone was behind it and then we saw Capone walk towards them....great stuff......we had a season of Eli and Nucky Not having a Big fight, lol.....and 2-Face(Harrow) finally gave us a show with that Shootout after hardly doing anything this season......and the reason why these last 2 Epi's were Great and Epic was cause Margaret was hardly in them at all, lol.....☺.....

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  25. João PauloDecember 5, 2012 at 4:44 AM

    I agree and hope he gets more plots next season.

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  26. AhnjaylaDecember 5, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    In a way it was dreamlike.....Nucky dreamt of youth with the young actress...Margaret dreamt of love with Owen...Gillian dreamt she was a high class actress and student of the arts..Gyp dreamt he was a big dangerous powerful guy...Richard dreamt of a family....I think you get the picture...we really got to see these characters secret wishes....but as always reality sets in...very intense, poignant and powerful episode.

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  27. Oceanic108December 6, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    I don't think that a comment on a website has anything to do with life being full of this and that, or that it is a sign of where society is going. People feel like they can say whatever they want on the internet because the other people can't see them, there probably isn't any more to it than that.

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  28. Oceanic108December 6, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    We saw Jimmy get shot in the head, not once, but twice. We saw him die, and people still said he could be alive. What would change if we saw his body being taken away? Nothing would change, because it can always be argued that some one didn't really die. We could say that Gyp didn't really die, or the Commodore, Jimmy's wife, Agent Sebso, Billie, Manny, in all of those cases we didn't see their bodies hauled away or buried.

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  29. DarthLocke4December 6, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Well actually it does say something if they can't take the time to be polite, or offer constructive criticism. It shows a complete lack of respect, because they think they don't have to care about other people when responding. Maybe you're right it's because they don't "fear" being face to face with someone, but that doesn't make it any better.

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  30. DarthLocke4December 6, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    There is such a thing as a trick gun, which were used a lot as entertainment pieces before and during this time period. You could still pierce the scalp and some real damage, but you probably could have survived.

    It's makes a difference to see his body, or a grave site because then it finalizes all other possibilities and gives physical substance to "post death". To not have an audience see that, allows his death to become mysterious. (or an "unknown").

    The difference here is that Jimmy wasn't initially just "nobody" to Nucky Thomson (or rather there was once a possibility that Jimmy wasn't just nobody to Nucky Thomson), and all other deaths of those other characters are "moot", because they do not directly tie into "who" Nucky Thomson is, or what Nucky Thomson believes in, as Jimmy was like a son. This show is about WHO Nucky is and who Nucky becomes, so his closer relationships are how "we" learn to define him. So to kill someone Nucky is responsible for even existing and spent so much time with as a child, to not have Nucky reflect on his actions in any way directly relating to the murder ( a flash backto the night of, a grave site, crying) the lack of remorse at all, is strange to me because it leaves Jimmy as this enigma, as if he never existed at all. (but yet the whole season has this over the top antagonist who plays to the many allusions to Jimmy and/or Nucky's own conscience...)

    Owen's death was interestingly a complete juxtapostion to Jimmy's. Owen basically took Jimmy's place, (also of Irish decent), and he was brutally murdered cut into pieces and put in a box, but unlike Jimmy we don't actually see the murder, but instead also unlike Jimmy, we see the after math....(it points out we never see what happened to his body...)

    Gyp also is a juxtapositon. Jimmy is killed in pitch black, in the pouring rain, by Nucky at close range gun point (IMO represents 'not clear'), as Gyp is murdered in the morning, in the bright sun, and indirectly by Nucky with a knife via his own man.

    I have no need to keep talking about it. But IMO those who miss Jimmy and/or feel like something is missing now, should have the right to do so, because I think it is puzzling that it had to happen that way, not because of Jimmy being alive or dead, but because of what it says about Nuckly Thomson and his own future..

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  31. Oceanic108December 6, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    I agree that you have that right, it's just that to me his death was pretty straightforward. Also, I want to mention that Nucky did seem to reflect on his actions in an early episode this season, he was having dreams and hallucinations of a child version of Jimmy with bullet holes in his head; and before his dinner with Gyp, he had a flashback to when he introduced Jimmy to all those people when Prohibition had just started.

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  32. DarthLocke4December 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM

    Yes, dreams, hallucinations, and MASSIVE allusions to Jimmy through several characters and several similar season 1 and 2 events, but never a direct, "I killed James Darmody." comes from Nucky's mouth. That's why the season is "surreal" and Jimmy's death lingers in a mysterious larger than life way, because Nucky refuses to point blank deal with what he does...


    In the s2 finale we don't get to hear the final conversation between Jimmy and Nucky either...just the beginnings of it. In season 3 not only does Nucky not directly speak of killing Jimmy, he doesn't directly speak to Margret about the land deal, and at the end of the season, somehow he knows Margaret is at the abortion clinic...we never hear that conversation, or how he would know that. IMO it's very eerie indirect writing and clearly in some way transitional.

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