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Supernatural - Season 8 - Latest from Zap2IT - 30th October 2012

31 Oct 2012

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On "Supernatural," lying is nothing new to the Winchesters -- in fact, this summer we spoke with writer Ben Edlund about what makes Sam and Dean so prone to hiding the truth from each other. This season is no exception to the rule, but in this week's episode, "Blood Brother," Dean finds himself in a situation where he can no longer lie to Sam about his new comrade-in-arms, Benny the vampire.

"I liked the episode because I got to be on the water. Pirate vampires -- or as I like to call them, vampirates," Jensen Ackles joked while Zap2it was on set with him. It sounds fun, but as Dean's two worlds collide, things definitely get a little bit difficult, particularly because in some ways, the strength of Dean's relationship with Benny rivals his relationship with Sam.

"You hear these war stories of soldiers. You get a southern guy and a guy from New York, two completely opposite people, and they get tossed in a foxhole together and they come back closer than brothers," Jensen says, though he admits that the "closer than brothers" thing could be a bit of an exaggeration. "I wouldn't pretend to know exactly what kind of bonds are established in war, and I think that if I was to have an idea of what it is, I'm trying to emulate that with the relationship with Benny. These two guys have been through their personal hell and back."

One thing is for sure -- Jensen himself is having a blast in Season 8. Not only has it allowed him a more manageable schedule as he and costar Jared Padalecki shoot separately more often, but Benny has given Jensen fresh angles to play with a character about whom he thought he'd learned everything. "I think for a show going into its eighth season, curveballs like that are awesome," Jensen says. "I love the relationship that he's built with this monster. They have earned the respect of each other in such a foreign way."

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48 comments:

  1. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 10:23

    This whole interview is a slap in the face for all fans who love the brotherly dynamic and this paricular phrase is just uncommentable:- [ the strength of Dean's relationship with Benny rivals his relationship with Sam.]


    I shake my head in disbelief and despair.

    Seven seasons of brotherly caring, sacrifice and love and this is what we're reduced to now.

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  2. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 11:10

    lets have some more characters for Sam to interact with, not just a past girlfriend shown in short flahbacks that last less than a minute and maybe then Sam fans wont feel like they're being shafted.
    Also why should Dean having Benny affect his relationship with Sam? Why do the writers have to villify Sam to bolster Dean's other relationships? Why cant Sam have other relationships and not be made to feel guilty for them?

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  3. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 11:15

    Maybe Sam and Dean should seperate? Take on different paarts of the mission?
    Dean can hunt with Benny or Cas
    Sam can search for Kevin and maybe hunt with Garth or Martin
    They could just meet up now and then when the mission calls for it.
    Both have relationships outside of each other, both hunt, both are involved in the action and we can see them working together on occassion.

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  4. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 11:32

    No, that's not for me!
    It never will be!
    X

    It's like saying that as NCIS has been on 12 seasons, Jethro should go off with another team, Abby should get a transfer and all the others should shack up with different sections because they've been together too long.
    I wonder what the NCIS fans would say if that happened?
    X

    Any half decent fan-fic writer could have come up with a story-arc which could have included the brothers working together, on good terms with one another, fighting a common enemy. and interacting with guest stars.

    X

    I have no interest in seeing the brothers each go off on separate stories arcs, surrounded by their little entourage of personal guest stars, and then meeting up at Easter and Christmas for a two-yearly brotherly hunting reunion.
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    I can't think of anything more depressing!

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  5. sue beattie31 October 2012 at 11:43

    This is my thinking. Love Sam and Dean but right now all sam talks about wanting to leave the gig once prophet and devil is put back in hell and never to come back. So he is looking into other options. So Sam has to figure out what he wants hunting or normal life. Once he figures that out then maybe that will help get brothers back on track and also Dean makes friends he has had other dynamics with other characters. He had Cas and now he has Benny. Its just who Dean is; but Dean and Sam are blood no matter what. And Sam is the central core of that found that out in heartache what makes dean happy. Riding in the car with his brother hunting. That won't change. What Dean and Benny did in Purgatory and what happens on top now both are back will make for an intresting storyline for Dean. I say go for it. I like to learn more about Purgatory. How they bonded. But in the end the show will always be about Sam and Dean. JMO.

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  6. Stephanie Camp31 October 2012 at 11:46

    I totally agree, I would never want the brothers to be seperated nor would I want to see NCIS go there seperate ways

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  7. percysowner31 October 2012 at 11:54

    I too want the brothers together. I also realize that they negotiated for more downtime in their new contracts, so having them separate will be necessary at times. Well either that or more Castiel, Benny, Garth, teenagers turning into monsters episodes. So I could live with the boys doing a job where Sam goes off to do the research and Dean goes off to interview witnesses. What I can't wrap my head around is Sam acting like he was happier when Dean was suffering in Purgatory and Dean has decided that Benny (and eventually Cas) are better, more loyal brothers than Sam. The total trashing of Sam's character is really hurting me. Give Sam a POV that doesn't make him look like a horrible unloving brother then find reasons to have them work apart that fit into the show's format.

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  8. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 12:02

    Do you actually know if they negotiated for more free time or is it just something you've heard, because I always remember Jensen saying how much he liked to work and how he threw himself wholeheartedly into his job.
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    Then I know they got a raise, so it seems strange to me that they would get more money for doing less.

    Just wondering. :)

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  9. percysowner31 October 2012 at 12:08

    I emailed Alice Jester of Winchester Family Business. She has some pretty good behind the scenes contacts and she stated that part of both Jensen and Jared's contracts included more time off. I suppose she could be not telling the truth or making things up, but she has always been reliable in the past, so I'm taking her at her word.

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  10. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 12:33

    Fair enough.
    Again we don't know how much extra time off they are getting, but if it's going to ruin the show, then maybe they should just have called it a day.
    X

    Anyway, let's say they have less time on screen.

    I would rather have three or four crappy episodes with no Winchesters and have the remaining ones with Sam and Dean good together, fighting evil.


    I would much rather sacrifice those few episodes than have the brothers' appearances watered down to ten minutes in every episode.
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    Then I presume both Jared and Jensen have identical contracts, so I would love to be able to count the minutes that Dean is on screen and the minutes Sam is on screen. I wonder if the numbers would be the same?.
    I can't believe that Sam's time is used up by a one second glimpse of Amelia while Dean gets an episode-long run with Benny and Castiel.
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    Then leaving apart the time references.
    Why make Sam so out of character?
    What advantage does that bring to the show?
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    If Sam had looked for Dean and had even found out that he was in Purgatory but had no way of getting his brother out, he could have phoned Martin or any of the other hunters and handed over the Kevin quest to them, having decided that without Dean he wanted to leave the hunting life.


    He could still have found a girl friend, but without abandoning Dean in the horrible way the writers made him do.


    Now when he finds out about Benny, how are we to believe that Sam is concerned about Dean's friendship with him, when all we have seen is how unhappy Sam seems to be at Dean's return, and how he wants away from hunting and back to normal.

    I mean the whole thing is just so unbelievable, at least for me.

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  11. Topaz31 October 2012 at 12:34

    No word of a lie, I had a dream last night that the writers decided to turn Sam into a trans woman. I then had to try and explain to them that while, yes, transsexuals were a hugely under-represented group on TV who desperately needed some positive and sustained exposure, the character of Sam was perhaps NOT the one to do it through. Kudos to Jared Padalecki though. He looked great in make-up.

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  12. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 12:36

    episodes 9 and 10 are also Dean and Benny heavy, Jared confirmed he had quite a bit of time off and didnt film any scenes with Ty.

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  13. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 12:41

    Thanks for this moment of lightheartedness. :)
    Maybe Sam should try that.
    It would certainly get people talking about him. :)

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  14. Topaz31 October 2012 at 13:01

    To be fair it would probably be about as consistent with the character as pretty much everything else the writers have made him do over the last two seasons.

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  15. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 13:13

    Yeah, you're right, they have twisted him around like a pretzel. :(

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  16. percysowner31 October 2012 at 13:17

    Hey, I agree 100% about Sam. I have no idea what Carver is thinking when he decided to write Sam so OOC. I am going to stick with the show for this season in order to give the writers a chance to course correct on Sam, but if Sam's mindset is not explored, and if there is no reasons given for Sam to have not looked for Dean other than he said don't care to look and if Sam is not given a storyline that portrays him sympathetically and if Sam remains the unneeded brother who has no friends, no motivation other than self interest and most importantly less screen time than Dean and less story than Cas and Benny, then I will probably delete Supernatural from my DVR, and not watch again.



    I am sick about the way this season is going. This is worse than season seven, which was dull at times and even worse than the Sam is a bad brother season four.


    Alice Jester said that what she has been told is that Carver wants a reset on the series. Carver has stated that Sam's backstory is too convoluted for him to deal with. So we are getting Sam not even looking for Dean and reverting to season one Sam, while Dean gets post Purgatory PTSD and new and better friends. I feel as slapped in the face as any fan. I have written to the network to complain. I have written to the writers. When Alice offered to talk to the contacts she has in the industry to relay my concerns to TPTB, I asked her to do so. I am doing what little I can to get the show back to where Sam is a viable character and not just tall wallpaper. I'm with you on every point. I can take Castiel episodes, even though I'm not a fan. I suppose I can choke down Benny episodes as long as I get Sam relating to SOMEONE at some time and not being Dean's emotional punching bag.



    I was just relaying the information that I had as to some of what is going on behind scenes. I am thoroughly baffled with Carver's approach and I hate it terribly. I didn't mean to give you any other impression.

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  17. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 13:18

    obviously the writers have found a way which will have to wait and see, if Jared actually filmed less days in October than Misha.
    Sam is apart from Dean for at least a good chunk of the 2 mid season episodes (9 and 10). Jared was home in Texas for several days while episode 7 was filming and had days off in episode 8 while they filmed Purgatory scenes.
    On the other hand Jensen has been having the first day of each episode off where Sam and Amelia flashbacks have been included, he also had several days off for episode 4 (same as Jared) and had a few days off for episode 7 too.

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  18. percysowner31 October 2012 at 13:19

    Sadly, since TPTB have an unfortunate habit of killing off women, it would probably only result in Sam's death, probably after Dean told him how selfish he was being to try and live the life that makes him happy. That would put me out of my misery, but do less for the character of Sam.

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  19. KatHale31 October 2012 at 13:19

    "In some ways,the strength of of Dean's relationship rivals his relationship with Sam."
    This will not be well received,I'm sure,but note that it's a quote from whoever wrote the article and not something an actor or a writer said.

    "These two guys have been through their personal
    hell and back."
    Basically,that's the explanation.They had to rely on each other in Purgatory in order to survive and naturally a bond was formed.

    I'm expecting things to become much more complicated when Cas returns.Right now Sam and Benny both a have a relationship with Dean that the other isn't aware of (or knows too little about).Cas on the other hand obviously knows pretty much everything about the bond between Dean and Sam and is also aware of the dynamic between Dean and Benny.
    Some spoilers suggest that he's gonna bond with Sam,which means that he probably shares the mistrust towards Benny.It'll be interesting to see how things will progress.So far we've had Dean and Cas (kind of) teaming up to stop Sam in season 4 and Sam and Dean trying to stop Cas in season 6.This time it'll be Sam and Cas "against" Dean,trying to convince him that trusting Benny may not be the smartest thing.

    Odds are that sooner or later Benny is gonna go off the rails and one of the brothers will kill him.My theory is that he'll try to harm Sam in some way or maybe turn Dean against him and Dean will kill him.

    It seems that the first half of the season will be about the different relationships between the characters and in the second half they'll probably gonna concentrate on the Word of God and how to seal Hell forever(which I don't see them doing this season).

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  20. percysowner31 October 2012 at 13:27

    I had a feeling this was true, but I am terribly angry to hear it confirmed. At least I know not to expect much in the way for Sam this season. Again, this is not making me want to continue to follow this show.

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  21. percysowner31 October 2012 at 13:30

    With tvmonkey's note about the amount of time Jared is shooting, I don't see any chance that we will see Sam's relationship with ANYONE. This is becoming the Dean and friends show with special appearances of his no good brother Sam. Frankly, I think that if Benny tries to turn Dean against Sam he may well succeed AND Sam will end up having to tell Dean how right Benny was to boot.

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  22. Miss Supernatural31 October 2012 at 13:32

    Wow, we really share minds. That was exactly my reaction after reading the interview and especially that phrase.


    Supernatural, maybe it's time to say goodbye.

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  23. Topaz31 October 2012 at 13:33

    The problem is that the writers still have loads of stuff they want to do with Dean to explore his personality, but Sam's character journey finished when he died at the end of season 5. They didn't bring him back because there was more to do with him, they brought him back because the show was still on TV. This is no discredit to Padalecki or the character - but Sam had a very specific 5 year arc and the character is now just this weird sort of phantom haunting the show and, as far as the writers are concerned, getting in the way. This season he's been written a bit like the generic buzzkill wife character in war films that has no personality, just looks miserable and fights with the lead character all the time. Sam deserves a bit more dignity than that. I sympathise with their dilemma but that's what happens when you stretch out a show past its intended ending. They need to find a way to make him relevant without having him do or say things that the original conception of the character, even with everything that's happened, would never, ever do. Also just never, ever make him do a soft focus picnic scene with soap opera music and a dog ever again. EVER.

    Rant over.

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  24. Miss Supernatural31 October 2012 at 13:35

    Ouch... :'(

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  25. KatHale31 October 2012 at 13:36

    A little dramatic,but okay... ; )

    You really see that happening??Because I don't.We're just gonna have to wait an see,I guess.

    About Jared's schedule.After eight years I'm not gonna complain if Jared and Jensen want to have a little time off even if that translates into Sam and Dean having less scenes together.I'm still enjoying the show enormously so it all works out for me.

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  26. Karen Kaiser31 October 2012 at 13:41

    Dean's not lying but Sam has especially to himself. Dean parted company with Benny never eexpecting him to call. What Dean is supposed to keep Sam informed about where, when and what he's doing 24/7?

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  27. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 14:02

    No, no, I understand perfectly. :)

    You are far more even-minded than me.

    When I'm passionate over something I tend to get a bit carried away.


    What you said about Carver finding Sam's back story too convoluted to deal with is very interesting.

    It means that he's not even invested enough in the character to try and find him a decent motivation of any kind.

    If he had wanted, he could have taken the easy way out, and instead of the dog getting knocked down, it could have been Sam.

    What's easier writing than a coma and a bout of amnesia.

    Wouldn't it have been interesting for Dean to come back and not find Sam.

    X
    Sam could have gotten out of hospital and started a new life having completely forgotten about his past and Dean.

    It would have solved Sam's "convoluted back-story" for Mr Carver!


    We could have seen the brothers starting to get to know each other again and still have had Be and Am, just the same.


    I hope that something will change but if this is the way the writers have decided to go then I'm afraid it's going to be impossible to change their minds.

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  28. Judy Smith31 October 2012 at 14:04

    Some how I new after reading this that most of the comments below would be negative.

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  29. percysowner31 October 2012 at 14:05

    I do not begrudge Jared and Jensen getting time off. They have been great for years and deserve it. What I do begrudge is that Jensen is in every episode where we are told we are going to see Sam and Amelia and Jared get so much time off that he goes home to Austin repeatedly. It's good for him and Gen and Thomas that he gets that time. It's infuriating that the writers aren't giving Jensen that time and using it to examine Sam. Instead they are writing Benny episodes that require Jensen and Castiel episodes that require Jensen and when Jensen needs time off we get Bitten focusing on three people we have never met before. I want Sam to get some focus but if Sam isn't on screen he can't GET any focus and they are keeping Sam off screen so that they can establish the great bond between Benny and Dean. Lord knows in season four they didn't show Sam interacting with Ruby in a way to make HIM understandable.


    And yes, I think the neglect of Sam and his not looking for Dean because of a suddenly discovered, never before mentioned agreement to not look MAY well be setting it up for Dean to choose Benny over Sam without the backlash that Sam got for Ruby.

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  30. isleofskye31 October 2012 at 14:40

    I get what you're saying but i don't agree about the part of Sam being useless after Swan Song nor do I think that they really needed to explore Dean's personality ,for If any character has had his personality explored it's been Dean!
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    If we look at it like that we can say that Dean too was useless too when he came back from Hell in season Four, for Sam could have liberated Lucifer without Dean around.
    Anyway, If we leave the myth-arcs aside, SPN is the story of two brothers fighting evil and saving lives.
    X

    All Carver had to do was go back to basics and think up a new less-ambitious story arc.
    He could have cut all the ties to Heaven, Hell and Purgartory, ignoring them as he has done with the Leviathans, and putting Sam and Dean back on the road again.

    He could have introduced new characters if he needed to fill in more screen time .
    Honestly there were hundreds of things he could have done and I'm afraid he has picked one of the worst.

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  31. sharonally31 October 2012 at 15:00

    What a sweet little show Supernatural has turned into . They get inspiration when writing for Dean and his brothers and a brain freeze when writing Sam . Now we have Benny the good vampire and Castiel the misguided angel who will fill a gap in Dean's life that was apparently there.


    And we have Sam who apparently not only has a convoluted past that the showrunner cant be bothered with but he magically becomes Season 1 Sam who will seek normal because why not and he cant look for Dean because again why not and as a character attatched to him who changes depending on which way the wind is blowing and when we see her . And a older brother who is collecting brothers like it is going out of fashion. It is almost funny if it wasnt sad .

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  32. chris68431 October 2012 at 15:37

    At the end of season 5, the writers had a character who was a monster hunter, had grown up in a hunting family, but who over-identified with monsters because he had demon blood and powers. He had obsessive tendencies, struggled with an addiction to demon blood and power, had flirted with the dark side, but had in the end stayed good and chose family over evil. He appeared to have been sucked into Lucifer's cage, but they could have gone a different direction with this.

    The problem wasn't Sam's character. Sam was still a very complex, interesting character who was a great fit for a show about hunting demons and monsters. The problem appears to be lack of imagination or lack of interest - either one speaks for the need for different writers rather than different characters.

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  33. chris68431 October 2012 at 15:39

    This article was great way to kill my excitement buzz over this episode.

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  34. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 15:54

    Sam and Cas have scenes in episode 7 and 8, I think Sam asks Cas what happened in Purgatory which leads into a purgatory flashback. Cas is with Sam and Dean during episode 8.

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  35. hlnkid31 October 2012 at 16:01

    In my several years of coming into the fandom of SPN, I've learned to take with a grain of salt, all the spoilers and reports and interviews. They usually turn out to be only a snippet of a season long story, or they turn out to be a lot different than what the reporter, actor, etc makes it sound like in the interview. I've not once been disappointed in a year of SPN. Individual eps, yes, but every season, in the end (and watching it over a second time) it all comes together, it all makes sense. So, will wait and see how the Dean-Benny storyline plays out. Obviously Benny is not just going to be a happy go-lucky vamp and live a nice clean life. He's in this story for a reason, other than just to be Dean's war buddy....so, I'm interested to see just how he ultimately fits into S8 and how his existence affects both Dean and Sam.

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  36. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 16:07

    interestingly enough even when Sam doesnt have much going on he's the one the fandom are talking about? Every interview and article I've read on episode 5 talked about Sam's meeting with Benny. People are talking about Sam being OOC, they're talking about him not looking for Dean, they're talking about his seemingly disconection from Dean and hunting, they're coming up with reasons and interesting potential plots. I've learn over the past few years that an episode can be Dean centric but just one line or action from Sam can have the fandom exploding like nothing I've ever seen. Even Sam haters spend most of their time talking about Sam and his actions more than they do their favourite characters.
    I will wager it will be mostly Sam's reactions to Benny in tonights episode that will have the message boards buzzing more than anything Dean and Benny actually get up to in the episode.

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  37. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 16:07

    Sam=plot device

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  38. tvmonkey31 October 2012 at 16:17

    to make matters worse episode 11 is a comedy/meta episode or something where the boys dress up? unlikely to be any actual character/storyline development there.

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  39. comicfangirl31 October 2012 at 16:18

    Wow, finally another side taken over by the endlessly whiny "fans".

    Oh, joy. Not.

    Ah, I forget you who endlessly complain know how the season continuous because Carver has told you everything, right?

    Oh, he hasn't ....awww. Why don't you wait and see how the entire season 8 plays out before you judge?


    And for those who don't even bother to watch season 8, but judge by 20 seconds trailers and articles...Sorry I can't take anything you complaint about seriously for a minute.


    Gee, the so called "fandom" these days, complain, complain, whine, whine......Seriously?
    Boring. Get a life.

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  40. sharonally31 October 2012 at 16:55

    Actually this is a forum open to differeing views .Now you can dispute those views or disagree but you dont tell people to get a life because you dont like what you are reading. And instead of just pointing fingers at the fandom why not look at the show as well it isnt exactly a innocent player in this.

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  41. jensenfan197831 October 2012 at 19:27

    I love it to be honest. Conflicts make this show. Lying to each other is normal. Getting caught in those lies makes for a good story.

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  42. Topaz31 October 2012 at 19:42

    My attitude is that writers have to go with what inspires them and my feeling is that Sam doesn't inspire them as a character any more but they can't get rid of him. That's just an observation, which I think is self evidently true. I'm not saying it was unavoidable, I'm saying they reintroduced the character in season 6 out of necessity with no real thought to how difficult it was going to be to tell new stories about him. Consequently, they painted themselves into a corner.

    I do hold Sera Gamble and her extended hurt/comfort fantasy made flesh that she ran away with on Sam over season 6-7 partly responsible. She could have gone for a much more straightforward way of dealing with Sam coming back changed after hell, accepted that this was going to be a different character to the one we saw in seasons 1-5 because of his experiences, and recognised that this was a gift for her as a writer. Instead she decided to build a ludicrously convoluted mythology around his "hell trauma" that precluded any genuine and truthful exploration of what Sam had been through and his mental state. He came out of it all with less depth, not more. And from that he stopped being a relatable character and just became a plot device for her to beat on and for Dean to emote over.

    So, I think Carver had a hell of a job coming into season 8 in trying to make this character make some kind of sense. However, by giving him literally nothing to build on in the year between seasons except a nausea-inducing relationship with a vet and an abandonment of Dean that doesn't make any sense, he hasn't helped himself. It's reminiscent of what happened with Cordelia in Angel. Nothing Sam does is believable anymore because he no longer has any consistent or, for that matter, interesting, characteristics. What drives him? Why does he do what he does? What's his greatest fear? Hell, what are his likes and dislikes? We have absolutely no idea.


    What's insulting to the viewers is that the writers don't even seem to be trying to hide their boredom with Sam this season. I'm not against Dean's storyline. His relationship with this vampire character is compelling to me and Dean is a great character. I don't have an issue with it getting in the way of the brothers' relationship - good drama is built on conflict. My issue is that I think what they're actually doing is creating a storyline that Sam isn't in because they've lost any sense of who he is and therefore don't know how to give him a dynamic role in the story. And that's just a bit sad. If they'd genuinely decided to take the show in a more ensemble direction because there's only so much you can say about 2 brothers to the exclusion of all else, I'd be fine with that, but they're too scared to do that because a lot of viewers won't like it, so we're now stuck in this really annoying halfway house. And it's becoming seriously irritating.

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  43. Jess Connor31 October 2012 at 22:27

    Have you seen the latest spoilers? Cas and Benny are gonna fight over which one is Dean's "bestest" friend.

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  44. Jess Connor31 October 2012 at 22:38

    I heard this too about Sam's story line. It just pisses me off that they did this.We want a compelling story with equal time for BOTH brothers. No more of this crappy OOC Sam. Sam, as he is being written, is NOT believable.


    Supernatural is not "must see TV" for me anymore. I still watch, but I used to watch and immediately re-watch. Then watch again over the weekend. Starting with Season 7, I stopped doing that. I haven't rewatched most of Season 7 and none of Season 8.

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  45. comicfangirl31 October 2012 at 22:39

    To some the show seems to be guilty of what ever they want it accuse it of, after 4 episodes and that is just funny to me, but to each its own.

    4 out of 23 episodes in total and some think they already know how the rest will play out. Sorry that is a subject to point out, because no amount of whining and complaining makes up for facts.

    So far if you aren't one of the writing staff you simply don't know to what end everything will lead.

    But if people want to go on and complain and prejudge based on little to none facts, fine by me but very entertaining to read.

    It is just common sense to stop what you dislike, so if you dislike Supernatural that much this season...........:)

    I know I enjoy it so far.

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  46. Jess Connor31 October 2012 at 22:41

    ***If he had wanted, he could have taken the easy way out, and instead of the dog getting knocked down, it could have been Sam. What's easier writing than a coma and a bout of amnesia.


    Wouldn't it have been interesting for Dean to come back and not find Sam.***



    Both of those story lines are much better than what we are seeing on the screen. And more importantly, they could have been written while keeping Sam in character.

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  47. Jess Connor31 October 2012 at 22:44

    As you said, they'll write it in such a way that Sam will be wrong about everything and his character will experience all the backlash.

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  48. isleofskye1 November 2012 at 06:54

    Yeah.

    There are so many ways that season eight could have started for Sam but what really annoys me is this need to make him so out of character.


    I have always loved Sam's character, for I think he is an interesting and complex individual, with all the problems any person who had been born into such a life would have had, including the teenage urge to runaway from it all to Stanford, but that is all in the past and Sam has been changed and moulded by circumstances into what he was, up until the end of season seven, anyway.
    .
    I really hate this character assassination that the writers are putting him through and I feel that it's all a waste of such a handsome, charismatic , capable actor such as Jared is.

    Many a show would be happy to have him under contract!



    With this I am in no way criticising Dean whom I love equally but whose talents seem to be more appreciated by the writing staff, and I think that it is completely unfair as regards to Sam, and to the Sam and Dean dynamic as the lead actors in their own show!

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