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Once Upon A Time - Episode 2.01 - Broken - Sneak Peek 2

21 Sept 2012

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69 comments:

  1. Justine Kubica21 September 2012 at 09:29

    Yay, Charming Family!

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  2. Kris90721 September 2012 at 09:46

    It just makes me so happy every time I see the Charming Family together.

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  3. Cathy21 September 2012 at 09:55

    Too short.

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  4. Maret Hosemann21 September 2012 at 10:06

    I want more. Now.

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  5. joao rabit21 September 2012 at 10:35

    Charming family!!!!!!!!!!
    Regina BEHIND BARS
    Gold....


    My 6 favorite characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  6. gerald christie21 September 2012 at 10:52

    That's the best revenge they could do? Putting her in jail? Can't wait to see how she escapes.

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  7. InvestedInYourFuture21 September 2012 at 10:57

    I am guessing Charming and Snow are protecting her from lynch trial because that's not justice.

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  8. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 September 2012 at 11:10

    Why is Gold walking around like nothing happened? He should be behind bars too! He created the curse.

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  9. fiona Walsh21 September 2012 at 11:50

    Thank god someone else with a bit of sense in this fandom. Couldn't have said it better myself. And if he gets away scott free and Regina gets the blame for all of this I am gonna be mad. People seem to forget that he created the curse after all. Not saying Regina doesn't deserve to be punished, because obviously she does but let's not forget that Gold should be there too.

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  10. klutzy_girl21 September 2012 at 12:37

    I love seeing the Charmings together!

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  11. Courts21 September 2012 at 12:41

    LOL. Charming family, just as dense as always. You poor things.

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  12. Courts21 September 2012 at 12:43

    They don't know that. He told them that she created it. And even Regina might not know that he's been meddling in her life since before she was born.

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  13. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 12:44

    I think they are assuming she doesn't have any magic, and it would be better to keep her around for interrogation purposes to figure out how to get home and what their options are.

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  14. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 12:49

    Is the real evil creating the magic or using the magic? Just to play devil's advocate, he only manufactured the curse. We don't usually blame manufacturers if their customers do something wicked. However, he did manipulate the entire thing for his own ends, but he's done that before. He makes deals, deals in which he comes out the winner. The person making the deal with him takes responsibility for the outcome.

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  15. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 September 2012 at 12:50

    Charming and Snow don't know, but Emma does. He told her in the season finale how he put a drop of his true love potion on the parchment when he created the curse. He screwed her and Regina over when they went to get the potion to save Henry too. I can't believe Emma is ignoring all of this.

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  16. fiona Walsh21 September 2012 at 12:54

    Well I guess we dont really know that Emma is ignoring it. Maybe she has told Snow and Charming and that is why they are going to find him. I suppose we should wait to see the episode. But I hope she has said something because no matter what his motives he is still partly responsible for this mess.

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  17. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 September 2012 at 12:55

    It's not a matter of who is worse for me. Rumple and Regina were in this together. Rumplestiltskin created a curse that would affect an entire world full of innocents and he wanted it cast. They both deserve punishment for what they have done.

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  18. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 September 2012 at 12:56

    Yes, you're right. It would be too strange if they would just ignore it.

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  19. fiona Walsh21 September 2012 at 12:58

    Exactly.

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  20. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 13:40

    Rumple is a villain, and he's done things that are wrong. But I don't hold him responsible for the curse, Regina knew what she was doing and chose to do it, chose to kill her father so she could do it, with lots of hey this is a bad idea warnings along the way. Rumple may have made it, but he wasn't willing to enact it.

    I disagree that that they "were in this together" they're definitely at cross-purposes with each other.

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  21. CJ21 September 2012 at 13:49

    What!? New, darker leather jacket for Emma? At this point, I think TPTB are trying to make her the female version of her Dad. I love it!!!! Bring on ALL the Charming family scenes.

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  22. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 14:09

    I don't think it's about punishment, but redemption. Regina and Rumple are also victims themselves as people who where seemingly hurt by the actions of their family members (Rumples wife left him, Bae initially looked upon him as a coward, Regina's mom clearly is the one Regina has yet to blame or confront and has been using Snow as an excuse to not).


    What I like about the show is the complexity of the Villains and the Heroes. there's nobody perfect, nobody who doesn't ever make mistakes, or gets black mailed into precarious situations. It's just some are more one way, then the other, and in the end I think it will be about who is really willing to change for the better and who isn't.

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  23. Courts21 September 2012 at 14:10

    Emma also has trouble recognizing a sword and doesn't know what a library is so...

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  24. Courts21 September 2012 at 14:14

    It's not that he manufactured the curse. He manufactured every single aspect of the lives of the people involved so that they would all be in the perfect place to carry it out. He manipulated Regina and Charming, likely since birth considering their circumstances, creating every situation so that each person would be of the correct mindset so they would be exactly like this.

    But yes, we do blame manufacturers all the time. It's the same principle behind why someone who orders a hit or assassination is just as guilty as the person who carried it out.

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  25. Courts21 September 2012 at 14:15

    It's not that he wasn't willing to enact it. Based on the principle the curse was made under, he actually COULDN'T enact it.

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  26. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 14:17

    I'm guessing you mean thing you love the most caveat, but I'm guessing Belle would have fit the bill.

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  27. Maret Hosemann21 September 2012 at 14:21

    The curse was broken a few minutes ago. They all need time to pick up the pieces.

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  28. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 14:29

    Ordering a hit isn't manufacturing...the analogy would be blaming Smith&Wesson for a shooting death. We don't do that.


    I don't give Rumple that much credit: every aspect of their lives? from their birth? Was he responsible for Cora? Was it his fault that Regina couldn't overcome her need for revenge enough to find something else in her life worth living for? Providing an option, and explicitly telling you why not to take it, isn't the same as forcing someone to make the decision.


    Thank you for calling my attention to a timeline problem...if Rumple was "the evil one" when "Charming" was born and he split up the twins for King George, then Bae must be really old now, cause he was 13/14? when Rumple turned, he left at some point after that, so you have 28 years of a curse + Charming's entire lifetime, let's say 30 years, and suddenly he's in his 70s. Hmm.

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  29. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 14:38

    Really is!

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  30. James Swift21 September 2012 at 14:58

    I disagree. That’s letting
    Rumples off the hook too easily. A weapons manufacturer does not manipulate his
    costumers into using his products. Rumple did. His affiliation
    with the curse did not end once it was out there. He made sure it was used.
    Like others have said. Rumple manipulated many of the main characters for years
    because he wanted them to play into his plan.





    Rumple will
    pay. The curse just broke. Dust needs to settle and all the information has to
    sink in. When Charming and Snow understand how he used them and that he
    constructed the curse so they had to give up their daughter and missed out on 28
    years of Emma’s life he will face consequences.

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  31. Ouroboros21 September 2012 at 15:14

    Finally some Gold! I wonder if he's there to make a deal with Regina about her having her magic back.

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  32. Courts21 September 2012 at 15:14

    Actually, Bae left FTL over 100 years years before the majority of the story took place. So Rumple was roughly 150 years old when the curse happened, plus the time spent in Storybrooke.

    A gun manufacturer analogy isn't the correct one because that would assume that Rumplestiltskin didn't intend for it to be used in the way it was. The ONLY way the dark curse could be used was the way it was. A more appropriate analogy would be someone making a homemade bomb with the intention of causing death and giving it to someone they know will use it to do as much damage as possible. That person is criminally liable

    But when did he tell Regina not to take the option? All I remember is him goading her INTO doing it.

    I don't see how you can't give Rumple credit. We've been told that he has dealings with Cora and the writers have hinted that he had something to do with the way she is. Especially so if he's the one that gives Regina or Cora magic in the first place. He manipulated every situation so that Snow and Charming would meet, so that Regina's sleeping curse would be quickly as easily broken, so that they would have a child, so that he had a way to use them to gain power once the curse broke and Regina was likely killed for enacting it.

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  33. Courts21 September 2012 at 15:15

    He believed she was dead and you can't kill something that is already dead.

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  34. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 15:16

    I think you're right,. but I think it's dangerous for him...we have yet to see him make a potion out of any one else's love besides Snow and Charming's and seemingly then it had to Emma that retrieves that potion, assuming that used Emma as way to enact his own magic, while also letting her be the one to break the curse.So even if the curse is inevitably a different issue, he still needed her to come to Storybrooke and fight Maleficent for the potion to use magic to do what ever he is going to do now. However, Emma's role was not just about breaking the curse...it was also about fighting "the final battle", so I think it's up for debate if Rumples plans and the curse are inextricable, or completely separate, because the final battle seems to be something also "predetermined" and because what Rumple has also pre-planned, I suspect that we're 'really' not done with things, as this almost seems to initiate something like a second phase.

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  35. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 15:19

    It's really kind of fun to be able to see the generations together like that!

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  36. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 15:25

    I'm not one of the Rumple apologists. He is a villain and a bad guy. I don't care if he had a motive or not. The killing and manipulations are wrong. But I do think that the responsibility for making a deal or using a curse are on the person who made or enacted it. If Snow had killed Regina with the arrow she got from Rumple, that consequence was hers. Aside from Charming in the forest with the enchanted ring, everyone else has come looking for Rumple to "fix" their problem. They knew there would be consequences and they knew they were dealing with a bad guy. Regina held onto the curse and traded it away and then fought to get it back again. She made those decisions with a clear head. If she hadn't and Rumple had taken matters into his own hands, different story. But as far as cursing everyone, I blame Regina. Squashing innocent peddlers, that's all Rumple.


    I am worried about the "paying." Ever since they created this silly loophole that if you kill evil you become evil, all they've done is keep "good" from ever winning. It's not like Regina is ever gonna stop trying to get Snow. If she won't quit even when defeated she needs to die. They had to make that silly prison for Rumple so he could manipulate from inside it. But no, can't kill evil. And once you've given all the power to evil, it's completely unfair and impossible to ever really get justice, all you get is continually turning the other cheek and completely impotent force for good.

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  37. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 15:34

    Where are you getting the 100 years? (not arguing, curious, because haven't been considering timelines until now).


    He didn't just give it to anybody, He made a deal for it. They wanted it.


    He warned her of how much she would have to sacrifice, her dad told her not to do it before she stabbed in the heart, Maleficient told her not to. He never tells people to do things, he just presents the options, they choose. He's not tricking them.


    Until I see him make Cora rip out Daniels heart and then make Regina do whatever it is she does to become Cora, then no he isn't responsible.

    You can't make the entire show Rumple's fault. People have to accept what they do and take some responsibility. Or it is a really really boring show, you'd only have one character with agency.

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  38. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 15:35

    He didn't believe she was dead when he first fell in love with her, before he sent her away.

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  39. Tsynne o.o21 September 2012 at 16:08

    Yep exactly, it was hinted at that the dwarves wanted to hang Regina from her own apple tree lol. Not to say the woman isnt infuriatingly evil at times, and cold hearted at others, but I do truly believe she loves Henry, and I also believe her mother's manipulations turned her into who she was. I've wondered at times what would've happened if Regina had managed to run away with Daniel.


    I guess Gold/Rum will be up to his evil trickery ways, he is the ultimate trickster. I'm pretty sure Regina will regain her magic in this episode too, question would be if the above scene is related to that.

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  40. InvestedInYourFuture21 September 2012 at 16:13

    Sorry, Emma is a wee bit busy with dealing with the "fairytales are real" thing, as well as the fact that she has parents, as well as the fact that parents are from a fairytale, as well as that SHE JUST FOUGHT A DRAGON, as well as oh I don't know, her life being turned upside down.

    I'd cut her some slack in rationality department right now.

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  41. InvestedInYourFuture21 September 2012 at 16:15

    Sorry, but no.

    Both Snow and Charming have been shown to be quite a good tacticians and SNow has been shown to be able to be quite manipulative. Emma too has been shown to have brain when she actually uses it(and is not in denial over stuff).


    Gold Most likely, being once again magic-full, just hid there magically or something.

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  42. InvestedInYourFuture21 September 2012 at 16:18

    I just love the parallels with the premiere of S1:

    Yet again Regina desperately needs something from Gold and is on brink of loosing and yet again Gold is there with ulterior motives.

    and yet again one of them is behind bars.

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  43. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 16:39

    I'd like to know the 100 year things too! --But 100 years in one place isn't necessarily 100 years some when else (either by cultures definition of age, the speed of which things evolve, or how one chooses to categorize/measure the speed at which things evolve)


    I agree, even though Courts' speculation my turn out to be right and that most likely there are going to be "bigger fish" behind these characters, there's still a matter that Rumple had his own beliefs and motives, whether what he believes is the truth or not, or if he has also been deceived, only time will tell, but I think we still have to hold all of them a little responsible for their actions, despite whatever it is that they (and we) do not know.

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  44. Courts21 September 2012 at 17:23

    Which was BEFORE the curse was ready... It would be useless to kill Belle if he didn't have an out in the bottled love from Snow and Charming.

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  45. Courts21 September 2012 at 17:24

    It's been stated that that's the time period between the first and second ogre wars by Jane Espenson. Plus the fact that he made deals with Cora when she was young.

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  46. Courts21 September 2012 at 17:25

    Well, I was joking but okay.

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  47. Courts21 September 2012 at 17:27

    Rumple actually IS the only character with agency. He's manipulated the actions of everyone on the show. They make stupid decisions as well but he's manipulated them all into position. We saw his decision to make a curse 100 years in the past, so he's literally been planning what happened for a century.

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  48. livisz21 September 2012 at 17:36

    OMG... Mr. Gold's saying Dearie!!!!

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  49. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 17:42

    He also caused Snow and Charming to fall in love, and makes the sun shine? Rumple isn't the sole source of everything. And the more he is the less effective the show is.


    There was mention that he could tell the future, and I do think he planned and used opportunities that presented themselves. And the show has put him in a position where everybody has to come to him: because good can't compete with magic without help and he's the only one with magic willing to help, so they are constantly going to Rumple/Gold. But that is a plot failure, so taking it any further than that is compounding an already precarious problem. He didn't stand there and force anyone to come to him for help, he didn't force them to do bad things, they chose to. Emma went to Gold even though Henry told her not to. Gold didn't send her subliminal messages until she came around, she decided. She owns those actions and she owns the consequences. Otherwise, why have any other characters are all, if it just Rumple playing with his dolls again, like the hand of fate.

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  50. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 17:42

    Was this in an interview?

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  51. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 17:44

    I agree. 100 years (if it has been that long or Charming's lifetime otherwise) would have to pass differently in the worlds, otherwise, Rumple has no reason to continue to look for his son.

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  52. lsbloom21 September 2012 at 17:45

    Would he have needed the "out" if he had enacted the curse and set the rules?

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  53. mick21 September 2012 at 18:03

    I guess we will have to wait and see if its going to be mentioned if he would have been willing to sacrifice Belle in order to activate the curse. As it is right now, it is impossible to tell. Jane Espenson and Robert Carlyle both stated that the reason that Rumpelstiltskin threw Belle out is that he didn't believe she could have loved him but couldn't he have just kept her around for when the time came for the curse to activate since the curse required whatever he loved most?

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  54. So Contagious21 September 2012 at 18:19

    I think the most interesting thing to see this year will be what happens to Gold/Rumpelstiltskin as a character. We already know the motivating factors behind the other main characters, and I don't see most of them changing their general behavior post-curse, but Gold might. He did all this to find his son and now he has Belle; on top of which, he doesn't seem to quite be the Dark One anymore, strictly speaking. But he does love his power, and he's certainly no angel, and he can't like Regina very much right now. Which is all a roundabout way of saying I wish they'd show more of Rumpel in the sneak peeks, because I really want to see what he's like going forward.

    Also, the Charming family is adorable. That dynamic looks to be a lot of fun as well.

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  55. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 18:57

    I think it "was" the storybrooke persona's that were dense, or rather IMO intentionally limited (the point of the curse was directed towards MM's unhappiness, so it stands to reason it would also effect some of those most relative to her, for her to not be able to be "happy") -But I think if you look to FTL, you see that who they were are opposite to that. And now that we have "magic" and the curse is seemingly in some way broken, we now have a bridge to being able to see if these characters are going to be able to choose if they want to go back to whom they were, and in that sense I don't think it's going to be a matter of dense, but a rather more choices to cave into bad behavior....

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  56. C P21 September 2012 at 19:01

    About the timeline and Bae...maybe time runs differently between the 2 worlds? Like for example 1 year fairytale land = 10 in real world?

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  57. C P21 September 2012 at 19:04

    Yeah the fact they can't kill villains makes it very hard for good to win. Really, it doesn't make sense. Even in the real world, some murders are put on death row.

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  58. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 19:07

    Yes, but what we don't know is that if ultimately his own curse of taking on the persona of "the dark one" and also he and others being influence by the Blue Fairy, and creating and using a "Love Potion" is not a blessing in disguise? -How do we know that in the end that magic made from love ins't really a way to "restore, revive, and regenerate" things so that they can have a different ending?

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  59. oddball8721 September 2012 at 19:07

    OMG I CANNOT. THEY CUT IT OFF JUST WHEN IT WAS GETTING GOOD.

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  60. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 19:14

    I think in some ways Belle is dangerous to a lot of the characters in some ways...She obviously could be used to manipulate Gold in changing his course, but also because we don't know if Rumple has to be "The Dark One" in order to do all the things he does, but it seems likely...If so, then we don't know what happens if he is freed by "Love", let alone if someone comes to control him through the dagger, or becomes The Dark One themselves! Plus I don't think we know the whole truth about who Belle is and what she really wants outside of her feelings for Rumple...we don't really know what she did before she ever met him, or after he thought she was dead, let alone WHY couldn't find her, or sense her presence, since he seems to have no problem with that with anyone else (Like Charming in the woods for example)

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  61. mick21 September 2012 at 19:35

    I just meant that it wasn't clear if Rumpelstiltskin was willing to make this big a sacrifice, which in a way would be for the second time if you count his son. I do hope Regina and Rumpelstiltskin can be redeemed (hopefully without death). I also hope he can be freed by love, because the dark one's curse seems to have been causing trouble for awhile and the only way that has been mentioned so far to truly be rid of it without passing it on would be "true love's kiss". I just can't seem to shake the feeling that there may be a bigger evil than rumpelstiltskin and regina, especially since the blue fairy (i'm not calling her a villian even though something seems "off" about her to me) seemed to have known already about a curse to do what rumpelstiltkin wanted to do. It makes me wonder if someone hasn't tried it before...Does that make any sense or am I just rambling?

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  62. Totallyaddicted00521 September 2012 at 20:18

    ahh! Me too I'm so excited. The four of them, awesome! CAN'T WAIT

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  63. DarthLocke421 September 2012 at 20:55

    IMO It's Blue Fairy that I find the biggest Villain at this point, as both "Mother Superior" is really a negative term for an over-controlling 'mother' figure and because she is the one character, besides her own continuous meddlesome influences with the other characters, is also the least humanized character thus far.


    In Alice in Wonderland and it's sequel there are 2 Queens presented in each. Lewis Carroll described The Queen of Hearts as "a fury that is hot-headed", he described the RED Queen "a fury of a different kind" -cooler and more collected. I think that Wonderland has a history and/or a special dynamic with FTL, and this I think somehow Cora is the Queen of Hearts and that maybe some how the Blue Fairy will double as The Red Queen..


    From Wiki about Lewis difference of the The Red Queen verses the Queen of Hearts: The Red Queen is commonly mistaken for the Queen of Hearts in the story's predecessor, Alice in Wonderland, but in reality shares none of her characteristics other than being a queen. Indeed, Carroll, in his lifetime, made the distinction between the two Queens by saying:“I pictured to myself the Queen of Hearts as a sort of embodiment of ungovernable passion - a blind and aimless Fury.The Red Queen I pictured as a Fury, but of another type; her passion must be cold and calm - she must be formal and strict, yet not unkindly; pedantic to the 10th degree, the concentrated essence of all governesses![1]

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  64. ammolive21 September 2012 at 22:26

    Sneak peeks 3 and 4!
    Three- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLaYi301umo

    Four- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_DobPG9Bvo&list=UUKs-C7ErWHx8QLKyRiindGQ&index=1&feature=plcp

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  65. Bruce_F22 September 2012 at 00:41

    All good points.

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  66. Bruce_F22 September 2012 at 01:01

    Thanks. These haven't been posted to the site yet.

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  67. Totallyaddicted00525 September 2012 at 05:01

    Hey gold, they were just looking for you, how did you not see them on your way in?

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  68. Sarah Elizabeth Ann29 September 2012 at 21:21

    It's possible he was hiding or maybe this clip was cut for time so they really wouldn't have seen him. Other than that, I was wondering the same thing :)

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  69. Sarah Elizabeth Ann29 September 2012 at 21:29

    She/Gold got rid of it? Aw geez. This is gonna be a great season.

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